When were the Flicker Rings Sold?

[monsternik]

Venders put them together to begin with, or people in a warehouse. Do you think they made the flickers in the USA, then shipped them to hong kong to be assembled and then shipped them back to the states to be sold in 10 cent gumball machines?
How could you buy any flicker ring today and know it was assembled in the 60s?
So the way you see it ,how can ANY flicker rings out there be " real" unless they have a documented provenance along with them when you buy it?
Dont take my statements the wrong way, I understand it would be ideal to have a completely original ring.
but if its a monster flicker on a hong kong ring,.... Prove its not original.....Or prove it is.
The only thing not vintage is the dab of glue and the action of gluing it.
So my question was about these pinbacks in particular. Do you believe they aren't real just because that auctionhappened in the 80s? Or because you never saw any?
I personally believe they could be real. Why, because I have never seen the pinbacks they are stuck on anywhere else, and they are chromed, look like they have age to them in the picture, and fit the flicker perfectly.
But If there is no casper vending card showing them. Does it mean the weren't made? How many vending cards were just put together with many items glued to a piece of cardboard?
either way I think they are pretty cool.

[monsterjoe]

there are ways to tell if something was glued 50 years ago or 5 years ago or last month, you need a very strong jewelers loop, a bright light source and some lighter fluid. As far as the gumball charms, they may be real... I have seen other topics in that style of backing but not the monsters .

[Hepcat]

These were listed on ebay and sold via "buy it now" within a few minutes.  I tried to find info on them and even looked for similar pinbacks with different style flickers in them from vari vue and found none. the frames look like they were made specifically for flickers as they are rounded on the inside corners.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/221404084268?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

The frames do indeed look to be sixties vintage.

[Hepcat]

The rings were sometimes shipped separate from the bases, and the vending guys would sit around the kitchen table and glue them on to whatever was handy.

That would mean that there would also be all kinds of variance in the types of glue used to make these flicker rings.

[frankenstein73]

I bought them, the plastic chrome housing is marked PAT. PEND.  on the back and they have clips, not pins. Its obvious the flicker and brooch have been together for a long time, in my opinion  they appear to be original.
There is average wear on the chrome plating. The flickers look like they were applied many years ago, you can see the back of the flicker behind the clip and there is age discoloration in the glue, yellowing. And the flickers themselves are not minty and new like the recently found sets that showed up on ebay.

https://flic.kr/p/mTb4e3

https://flic.kr/p/mTa1GR

https://flic.kr/p/mT9mwK

https://flic.kr/p/mTe7jr

https://flic.kr/p/mT9zLZ

https://flic.kr/p/mT9szM

sorry it was all links to the pics, I couldn't get pictures to upload here? I cant find the image link on flicker? ive been away awhile maybe im rusty.

[Hepcat]

Well they certainly look pretty vintage to me.



Now all you need is the other five (or three) to complete the set and you'll be happy!

[frankenstein73]

I actually already have a full set of rings on hong kong bases. Plus an extra dracula and phantom with blank bases. Im not worried about having all three color variations for each character. I have almost a full set of reds and a couple in green. Although ......a few  blue ones added to my set would be pretty sweet!                 

Well they certainly look pretty vintage to me.



Now all you need is the other five (or three) to complete the set and you'll be happy!

[Hepcat]

Does your set include the two Casper rings?

[frankenstein73]

Not yet but i am contemplating buying one of the store stock backer cards off ebay, if I do I think it would only be appropriate to add the casper rings to the set. Plus I do like Casper and have several other toys and games of him in my stash as well.  So now if I can only find them at the right price....

[Mike Scott]

Instant gratification! All you need is $750.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1960s-Universal-Monsters-Flicker-Ring-Set-Frankenstein-Creature-Mummy-Wolfman-/221428741943?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item338e2e7737

[frankenstein73]

That is a fairly reasonable price if someone is looking for a full set. It would probably end up costing more to buy them individually, plus its ready to just throw in your display case, no trying to figure out what to display the rings on, or them just floating around on your shelf like mine.
Yes, Definitely instant gratification.

[Mike Scott]

That is a fairly reasonable price if someone is looking for a full set.

It is a good price. Lot of money, but a good price! 

[frankenstein73]

Yes, that's alot of cabbage to dish out.
I bought mine one at a time over a few years, didn't feel the sting as much.  The same way you would boil a frog.

[Allhallowsday]

I bought them, the plastic chrome housing is marked PAT. PEND.  on the back and they have clips, not pins. Its obvious the flicker and brooch have been together for a long time, in my opinion  they appear to be original.
There is average wear on the chrome plating. The flickers look like they were applied many years ago, you can see the back of the flicker behind the clip and there is age discoloration in the glue, yellowing. And the flickers themselves are not minty and new like the recently found sets that showed up on ebay.

https://flic.kr/p/mTb4e3

https://flic.kr/p/mTa1GR

https://flic.kr/p/mT9mwK

https://flic.kr/p/mTe7jr

https://flic.kr/p/mT9zLZ

https://flic.kr/p/mT9szM

sorry it was all links to the pics, I couldn't get pictures to upload here? I cant find the image link on flicker? ive been away awhile maybe im rusty.

Those are cool. 
I grabbed your pic thru IE, shrunk it and cropped with Paint, and uploaded to Photobucket.  Nice pix. 

[frankenstein73]

Thanks Allhallowsday! I couldn't seem to get the picture to show up through the link.  Pretty cool I thought, I love finding variations of already known monster item's, makes them seem new again.