Amazing:
https://youtu.be/xGbmWOfdXcQ
https://youtu.be/RIXxTrAa9nc
I can't believe it. Very sad, indeed.
I saw! I wonder how much will be saved? A lot of art is going to be lost, that's for sure!
A disaster for all mankind. The whole structure is an historic work of art.
:(
It's not looking like any of it is going to be saved. They suspect arson now. ISIS tried to attack this structure in 2016. bunch of propane tanks. I hate to say it, but once an idea is out there, it's possible someone picked back up where they left off. The structure survived 2 World Wars. yet now its gone. If this is terrorism, "We are rushing towards an Apocalypse of our own creation" applies. Sad day for culture.
Heard speculation that the fire may be related to restoration that was taking place.
Such a shock. All I can do is cry. How terribly sad!!!
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/13F48/production/_106463718_053452505-1.jpg)
Quote from: Mike Scott on April 15, 2019, 04:08:15 PM
Who's they?
Two or three workers, and one elected official called in to Fox today and suggested they investigate a potential terrorism angle. They weren't given much speaking time. Obviously they won't be until after a thorough investigation is done. Primarily for fear of a civil uprisings I am sure. They've been having a lot of trouble over there with riots and unrest. They don't want more obviously. You have been watching the riots, cars burning, and all the yellow vest stuff haven't you? seems they are in the news a lot these days.
I wouldn't buy any fear-mongering crap about Muslim terrorists, especially considering the wacky sources on that. There is precisely zero evidence of it being a terrorist attack of any kind. Anyway, while it's not clear yet just how the fire started, it's been known that there were renovation attempts on the cathedral for a little while, and when workers are dealing with structures like this, one that's basically made of incredibly old wood and limestone (which of course is flammable), there's a considerable risk factor. It may have survived a very long time, but it's more fragile than one would think.
Seems to me the fire started high up on the building. All that old, old wood? The wind up there feeding the fire? The vast open spaces, all that ventilation they provide? A small fire could easily have become a big fire very quickly.
Thankfully the worst was somehow averted. The fire's out, and the bell towers were saved, and the overall structure seems to have been saved too. The organ inside was saved, as was the Crown of Thorns, and I have heard that they somehow managed to save some of the artwork. But the roof is gone, and some of the famous rose windows may have been damaged or even destroyed as well. Now it's a matter of figuring out how weakened the structure might be, what heat expansion could do to those old walls, and not only assessing damage from the fire, but from the water as well. The old mortar they used wasn't really water proof, so you have to figure all the water they pumped into the building could easily have contributed to any structural weakness.
At the very least, it wasn't completely destroyed. It's devastating, and it's tragic, and it's not over yet. But all hope is not yet lost.
Quote from: Anton Phibes on April 15, 2019, 11:43:39 PM
Two or three workers, and one elected official called in to Fox today and suggested they investigate a potential terrorism angle.
There doesn't seem to be a hint of it in any mainstream news reports. I'm sure it will turn out to be a pain old boring accident.
At least one of the rosette windows survived. The bells towers, organ, and alter are also spared. Lucky, lucky, lucky.
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/04/16/10/12334456-6926807-image-m-14_1555405756162.jpg)
Quote from: Mike Scott on April 16, 2019, 06:19:40 AM
There doesn't seem to be a hint of it in any mainstream news reports. I'm sure it will turn out to be a pain old boring accident.
I sure hope so.
The only thing other than injury or death that can make a devastating fire even worse is learning that some moron started it on purpose.
Quote from: Mike Scott on April 16, 2019, 06:19:40 AM
There doesn't seem to be a hint of it in any mainstream news reports. I'm sure it will turn out to be a pain old boring accident.
I hope that's the case. I really don't take anything Fox News says seriously. They always like to blame Muslims, Mexicans, and migrants for everything. Remember, they
deal in "alternative facts". I'm fine with reality.
Quote from: Mord on April 16, 2019, 12:58:48 PM
I hope that's the case. I really don't take anything Fox News says seriously. They always like to blame Muslims, Mexicans, and migrants for everything. Remember, they
deal in "alternative facts". I'm fine with reality.
Pretty much what I was getting at.
Quote from: Big Bad Wolf on April 16, 2019, 01:47:38 PM
Pretty much what I was getting at.
Yes, but you stated it much more eloquently. I've told you before, your writing skills are exceptional.
Quote from: Mord on April 16, 2019, 01:52:16 PM
Yes, but you stated it much more eloquently. I've told you before, your writing skills are exceptional.
Eh, I dunno. I talk too much. :P
Quote from: Mike Scott on April 16, 2019, 06:19:40 AM
There doesn't seem to be a hint of it in any mainstream news reports. I'm sure it will turn out to be a pain old boring accident.
I hope so as well. Seems like the while world is fearfully anticipating some type of third world war on a daily basis.
Quote from: Mord on April 16, 2019, 12:58:48 PMI hope that's the case. I really don't take anything Fox News says seriously. They always like to blame Muslims, Mexicans, and migrants for everything. Remember, they deal in "alternative facts". I'm fine with reality.
MSNBC is the worst.
C:)
If I watched any U.S. TV news networks, FOX would be my choice for two reasons:
1. John Stossel. He's simply the best TV docu-journalist of all time.
John Stossel - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Stossel)
2. A goodly portion of the rest of FOX's newscasters:
(http://www.oneangryman.com/ken/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/FOX-and-Friends-First-Co-Hosts-Legs-600x450.jpg)
(https://networthtoday.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/anna-kooiman_9731-780x405.jpeg)
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The same John Stossel who keeps whining about how everyone should be allowed to be as racist as they want and discriminate freely? I guess I'm glad you're not an admin, in that case.
But you go ahead and keep drinking that Faux News kool-aid, buddy. Not sure about spamming the thread with screenshots from the Stepford Wives though. Great movie, I just don't see how it's relevant?
Quote from: Big Bad Wolf on April 16, 2019, 05:00:08 PMThe same John Stossel who keeps whining about how everyone should be allowed to be as racist as they want and discriminate freely?
The same John Stossel that defends every person's right to
choose! You have a problem with that? Or do you prefer some Orwellian system in which the State makes all the choices on your behalf, and you just better like them ... or else?
Quote from: Big Bad Wolf on April 16, 2019, 05:00:08 PMI guess I'm glad you're not an admin, in that case.
As if I care.
::)
Speaking of admins and such, wasn't it you who got all hot and bothered about some other movie buff's
opinions regarding some silly flick? You know, to the extent of engaging in personal attacks on said poster over multiple pages?
Quote from: Big Bad Wolf on April 16, 2019, 05:00:08 PMBut you go ahead and keep drinking that Faux News kool-aid, buddy.
Well perhaps if I had a TV.... I just checked the ratings though. FOX is clearly winning where it counts:
March 2019 TV News Ratings (https://www.statista.com/statistics/373814/cable-news-network-viewership-usa/)
And "buddy"? Yeah sure, son.
Quote from: Big Bad Wolf on April 16, 2019, 05:00:08 PMNot sure about spamming the thread....
Mmmmm, Spam, a Hormel classic since 1937!
(https://img.purch.com/w/660/aHR0cDovL3d3dy5saXZlc2NpZW5jZS5jb20vaW1hZ2VzL2kvMDAwLzA5My81MjEvb3JpZ2luYWwvc3BhbS04MHRoLWFubml2ZXJzYXJ5LmpwZw==)
A word of advice. You might want to tread more carefully when it comes to making politically charged comments on this board. Some people might call you on them.
Quote from: Big Bad Wolf on April 16, 2019, 05:00:08 PM...screenshots from the Stepford Wives though. Great movie, I just don't see how it's relevant?
Ahhhhhh, a movie reference! Just your style of course. Heaven forbid you actually have to read a book.
Quote from: Big Bad Wolf on April 16, 2019, 05:00:08 PMGreat movie, I just don't see how it's relevant?
Read the thread. The subject of FOX News was brought up by another poster, and it's the newscasters who present the news.
:P
Quote from: Big Bad Wolf on April 16, 2019, 05:00:08 PM
The same John Stossel who keeps whining about how everyone should be allowed to be as racist as they want and discriminate freely? I guess I'm glad you're not an admin, in that case.
But you go ahead and keep drinking that Faux News kool-aid, buddy. Not sure about spamming the thread with screenshots from the Stepford Wives though. Great movie, I just don't see how it's relevant?
Just ignore him. Take it from me, it's tiresome as hell. Btw, good call on Stossell, he's a cold,arrogant prick. The Fox ladies look soo robotic, they don't rate a hard on.
Quote from: Mord on April 16, 2019, 05:42:55 PM
Just ignore him. Take it from me, it's tiresome as hell. Btw, good call on Stossell, he's a cold,arrogant prick. The Fox ladies look soo robitic, they don't rate a hard on.
I mean, throwing a tantrum to defend the state-run propaganda network that is Faux News, that doesn't really surprise me. I am fascinated by the many strawman arguments, though. Responding to things I'm not even saying, taking things I am saying out of context to suit his warped narrative... Hey, it's almost like he's a Faux News "journalist" or something!
Silly me, referencing a classic horror film on a message board dedicated to...books, I guess?
Quote from: Big Bad Wolf on April 16, 2019, 05:57:08 PM
I mean, throwing a tantrum to defend the state-run propaganda network that is Faux News, that doesn't really surprise me. I am fascinated by the many strawman arguments, though. Responding to things I'm not even saying, taking things I am saying out of context to suit his warped narrative... Hey, it's almost like he's a Faux News "journalist" or something!
Silly me, referencing a classic horror film on a message board dedicated to...books, I guess?
Uhm, they are all the same BBW. One is propo one way and the other leans the opposite. I have a buddy who is a hard leaning leftist. he's really lib. He cannot stand that I have an arsenal in my home. My son and I enjoy shooting. Even the ar-15 we have. He hates my political views as well. You know what we agree on though, is we are all being played. And monsters. And religion. We agree on those as well. it is possible not to agree with someone and still name them friends. Unless they become toxic and a pain to be around. I would rather watch any of the stunningly hot conservative women Hepcat posted as to listen to Maddow. Just sayin'. Take a peek at this vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adXsewvlU0c&fbclid=IwAR0kakxEbjte8TyQ8JdaXlrJg0NnwIi92KpEbaOuvmEjHP--a14UgsSXwKY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adXsewvlU0c&fbclid=IwAR0kakxEbjte8TyQ8JdaXlrJg0NnwIi92KpEbaOuvmEjHP--a14UgsSXwKY)
Come on, Anton, those Fox ladies are the wicked, painted, city women our moms warned us about. Politics aside, Google Hallie Jackson. She has that cute "girl next door" thing going. She's also smart as a whip.
Quote from: Mord on April 16, 2019, 06:18:50 PM
Come on, Anton, those Fox ladies are the wicked, painted, city women our moms warned us about. Politics aside, Google Hallie Jackson. She has that cute "girl next door" thing going. She's also smart as a whip.
Are we on Bizarro world today? I am spouting your lines, and you are reeling
ME in with mine,lol ? The world
HAS gone mad,lol! :angel: :angel: >:D >:D
Quote from: Anton Phibes on April 16, 2019, 06:27:15 PM
Are we on Bizarro world today? I am spouting your lines, and you are reeling ME in with mine,lol ? The world HAS gone mad,lol! :angel: :angel: >:D >:D
We have to look out for each other. You have always been my conscience. Now, I'll be yours, for this brief indiscretion. Don't worry, not a word to the missus. :angel:
Quote from: Anton Phibes on April 16, 2019, 06:06:32 PM
Uhm, they are all the same BBW.
I'll take this to PM because this thread's been derailed enough and I don't have tenure here.
Quote from: Big Bad Wolf on April 16, 2019, 06:34:43 PM
I'll take this to PM because this thread's been derailed enough and I don't have tenure here.
Or not, apparently...?
What is "BBW"? You kids and your wacky talk.
Quote from: Mord on April 16, 2019, 07:13:31 PM
What is "BBW"? You kids and your wacky talk.
...oh crap... :laugh:
I was noticing how incredibly massive the cathedral was...
It got me to wondering how large the Chaney and Laughton sets were. Anybody know?
Quote from: Monsters For Sale on April 16, 2019, 07:27:14 PM
It got me to wondering how large the Chaney and Laughton sets were. Anybody know?
The Chaney/Laughton set (front of cathedral) only went to the top of the doors. The rest was a mat painting.
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/1884/B0L3tl.jpg)
Same with interiors.
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/1144/57EXYJ.jpg)
Quote from: Mord on April 16, 2019, 07:13:31 PM
What is "BBW"? You kids and your wacky talk.
I always thought BBW was an acronym for- Big Beautiful Women.....guess I was wrong😆
Quote from: Mord on April 16, 2019, 05:42:55 PMJust ignore him. Take it from me, it's tiresome as hell.
Some people never learn. Just refrain from directly insulting me, that's all. It's just that simple.
Quote from: Mord on April 16, 2019, 06:18:50 PMCome on, Anton, those Fox ladies are the wicked, painted, city women our moms warned us about.
I thought you liked painted women? ??? I sure do. ;)
Quote from: Mord on April 16, 2019, 06:18:50 PMPolitics aside, Google Hallie Jackson. She has that cute "girl next door" thing going.
Looks just as painted as the Fox anchorwomen to me. It's what TV studios do to their talking heads.
Quote from: Mord on April 16, 2019, 05:42:55 PMBtw, good call on Stossell, he's a cold,arrogant prick.
Yeah, yeah, so you don't like his personal style. But don't you love the way he steadfastly stands up for the taxpayer by shining the spotlight on and skewering government spending boondoggles?
???
Quote from: Big Bad Wolf on April 16, 2019, 05:57:08 PMI mean, throwing a tantrum to defend the state-run propaganda network that is Faux News, that doesn't really surprise me.
State run my pink
derrière! FOX has done a better job of skewering your typical tax-and-spend politician and government bureaucrats than any other TV network. Which of course is why those with a vested interest in ever larger government so hate FOX.
Quote from: Big Bad Wolf on April 16, 2019, 05:57:08 PMI am fascinated by the many strawman arguments, though.
Responding to things I'm not even saying, taking things I am saying out of context to suit his warped narrative... Hey, it's almost like he's a Faux News "journalist" or something!
Awwww, poor baby! I know, I know, I'm so unfair. You should perhaps have considered that though before insulting me. Once you do, well let's just say that I'm capable of debating at whatever level you choose.
Quote from: Big Bad Wolf on April 16, 2019, 05:57:08 PMSilly me....
Yes, silly you. On that point anyway we're both agreed.
Quote from: Big Bad Wolf on April 16, 2019, 05:57:08 PM...referencing a classic horror film on a message board dedicated to...books, I guess?
But incidentally:
1. It was a book first.
2. This is not a message board devoted to
strictly horror movies. It's for fans of monster/horror ephemera in general. You I've noticed don't seem interested in hardly anything but the movies part (which is my point). You rarely come around to the other sub-forums, and then all too often just to insult someone with whose views you disagree.
cl:)
Quote from: CBC NewsFrench President Emmanuel Macron has committed to rebuilding Notre-Dame Cathedral within five years, just a day after a fire gutted the cathedral.
"We will rebuild Notre-Dame even more beautifully and I want it to be completed in five years. We can do it," Macron said Tuesday in a television address to the nation.
To donate toward the reconstruction efforts:
Fondation Patrimoine :)
Quote from: Hepcat on April 17, 2019, 10:03:00 AM
I thought you liked painted women? ??? I sure do. ;)
That's a common misconception. I like slutty women, but no war paint or fake breasts. Don't you dare insult my lovely Hallie Jackson. John Stossell you can have to yourself.
Quote from: Hepcat on April 17, 2019, 10:38:09 AM
To donate toward the reconstruction efforts:
Fondation Patrimoine (https://don.fondation-patrimoine.org/SauvonsNotreDame/~my-donation?_cv=1)
:)
Now, that's a great thing to post. You're not that cold-hearted.
Quote from: Mord on April 17, 2019, 11:00:05 AMThat's a common misconception. I like slutty women, but no war paint or fake breasts.
I'm absolutely, ardently, assiduously opposed to fake breasts myself. I'll take real ones of any size or shape over any kind of fakes every time.
Quote from: Mord on April 17, 2019, 11:02:22 AMNow, that's a great thing to post. You're not that cold-hearted.
Yes I am!
C:)
Quote from: Mord on April 17, 2019, 11:00:05 AM
I like slutty women, but no war paint or fake breasts.
And no tattoos!! (ugg!)
Quote from: Mike Scott on April 17, 2019, 11:24:34 AM
And no tattoos!! (ugg!)
...and no Uggs. Get cooler footwear.
Quote from: Mike Scott on April 17, 2019, 11:24:34 AMAnd no tattoos!! (ugg!)
Not even a tasteful tramp stamp? Or ankle cherries?
(https://i.styleoholic.com/2018/10/Black-tattoo-on-the-ankle.jpg)
???
Quote from: Mord on April 17, 2019, 11:51:41 AM...and no Uggs. Get cooler footwear.
Hmmmmm. Yes, of course!
(https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1xevzQVXXXXXrapXXq6xXFXXXQ/Hot-Popular-Women-Ultra-High-Heels-Leopard-Print-Pointed-Toe-Stilettos-Slip-on-Zapatos-Mujer-Fashion.jpg_640x640.jpg)
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I'm lost...
Where is the thread about the 800-year-old religious icon in France?
(Computers are SO confusing.)
Quote from: Hepcat on April 17, 2019, 12:11:22 PM
Not even a tasteful tramp stamp? Or ankle cherries?
That is
more than enough!
Quote from: Monsters For Sale on April 17, 2019, 12:19:02 PM
Where is the thread about the 800-year-old religious icon in France?
Buried under a ton of smoldering wreckage! (Just like the building.)
Quote from: Monsters For Sale on April 17, 2019, 12:19:02 PM
I'm lost...
Where is the thread about the 800-year-old religious icon in France?
(Computers are SO confusing.)
Oh, yeah. We get so easily distracted. I really think that 5 years is a bit unrealistic ( considering the damage). Maybe ten? Anyway, there's no way to really replace what's been lost. Tragic.
So targeted bullying is just tolerated here I see. Everyone just moves on, pals around like no one in here was ever even personally attacked. Mods jump in and hang out with the bullies
And you all wonder why I don't post in here much. I'm done with this place. This old boys club, where bullies are protected so long as they butter up the mods and the admins.
I don't start these fights, but I'm not Mr. Popular and I don't take the attacks lying down so it's pinned on me anyway, I'm sure. So go ahead and ban me if I'm such an inconvenience.
Congratulations, UMA. You finally chased the monster away for good.
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6b/07/ad/6b07ad5be2589af00bbe4257a726ecd3.jpg)
Quote from: Big Bad Wolf on April 17, 2019, 01:57:08 PM
So targeted bullying is just tolerated here I see. Everyone just moves on, pals around like no one in here was ever even personally attacked. ...
... Congratulations, UMA. You finally chased the monster away for good....
Please tell me how you want us to respond. I don't know whether to weep or applaud.
Try not to spend too much time trying to convince Internet strangers you are right.
They think the same thing about themselves.
I've usually found the truth somewhere in the middle - but that's just me.)
Take care, and come back to us relaxed and refreshed. A monsterkid is a terribly thing to waste.
Quote from: Monsters For Sale on April 17, 2019, 02:14:10 PM
Please tell me how you want us to respond. I don't know whether to weep or applaud.
Try not to spend too much time trying to convince Internet strangers you are right. They think the same thing about themselves. I've usually found the truth somewhere in the middle - but that's just me.)
Take care, and come back to us relaxed and refreshed. A monsterkid is a terribly thing to waste.
I don't care about "convincing internet strangers I'm right". I'm sick of that narrative being spun about me. He came in here out of the blue to go after me, I didn't insult him. I care about everyone looking the other way when bullies make personal attacks, welcome said bullies with open arms when they put on a friendly face for everyone else. How am I supposed to feel welcome when I'm always the bad guy for standing up for myself, but let's all pretend Hepcat didn't say or do anything wrong because he's one of us, right gang!?
It's BS. "Just ignore him" didn't mean a damn thing in elementary school and it doesn't mean a damn thing here.
Quote from: Big Bad Wolf on April 17, 2019, 02:20:36 PM
I don't care about "convincing internet strangers I'm right". I'm sick of that narrative being spun about me. ...
...It's BS. "Just ignore him" didn't mean a damn thing in elementary school and it doesn't mean a damn thing here.
Look, Hep has always been an a-hole. He knows it, and cherishes when he gets under someone's skin. You're just feeding the beast. Why do you think certain leaders make jackass bullies of themselves? Answer...because it draws a response. Not being the center of attention is devastating to bullies.
And when I delete posts, or lock threads, everybody yells "censorship". I can't win, so why should I try?
And yes, ignoring the other guy is the correct thing to do. Nobody's getting punched in the face. It's all just words. And nobody, but nobody, can just let it go! Everybody has to get in their licks. Everybody has to have the last word.
It's not my job to referee petty bickering. If it goes beyond that (threats, serious name calling, etc.), I'll deal with it.
Quote from: Mike Scott on April 17, 2019, 02:39:10 PM
It's not my job to referee petty bickering. If it goes beyond that (threats, serious name calling, etc.), I'll deal with it.
Should I delete the "a-hole" comment?
Ignoring the other guy is the right thing for me to do, that is. No one tells him to ignore me, do they? Why don't we all just ignore him, there's an idea! Let's just ignore him, pretend he's done nothing wrong, and let him say whatever he wants about me.
But I better not say anything! I have to ignore him. And boy if I don't, it's "everybody has to get in their licks". It's just fine when he rants and raves and spams the thread and insults me this way and that way and all when I never said anything to him to start with, but I say something back and it's "petty bickering".
Funny, thread's never in danger of being closed when he says anything. It's only when I defend myself, then it's a problem. Gotta shut me up somehow, right?
Quote from: Mike Scott on April 17, 2019, 02:39:10 PM
It's not my job to referee petty bickering.
Of course not, it's your job to make your friends feel comfortable even after they attack other members and make them feel uncomfortable. Just ignore it. Look the other way. Let him do what he wants. It's fine. It's all fine.
Quote from: Mord on April 17, 2019, 02:42:07 PM
Should I delete the "a-hole" comment?
If the a-hole objects, I'll delete it.
Quote from: Big Bad Wolf on April 17, 2019, 02:44:27 PM
Ignoring the other guy is the right thing for me to do, that is. No one tells him to ignore me, do they? Why don't we all just ignore him, there's an idea! Let's just ignore him, pretend he's done nothing wrong, and let him say whatever he wants about me....
You might wanna rethink that fierce avatar...
(I have my picture as a 10-year old Vern, 'cause I kinda still am.)
Quote from: Mike Scott on April 17, 2019, 02:50:52 PM
If the a-hole objects, I'll delete it.
Man, talk about good timing!
Quote from: Mike Scott on April 17, 2019, 02:50:52 PM
If the a-hole objects, I'll delete it.
But you'll leave all mine in, right?
Quote from: Monsters For Sale on April 17, 2019, 02:57:25 PM
But you'll leave all mine in, right?
I'm sure you have nothing to worry about, no one cares what's said to me. You can say whatever you want to me, about me, whatever you feel like. Doesn't matter if I object, I just have to look the other way.
So go for it. Have fun, you might even be rewarded.
Quote from: Big Bad Wolf on April 17, 2019, 02:44:27 PM
Ignoring the other guy is the right thing for me to do, that is.
I don't know how seriously I'm supposed to take your complaints? Not once have you reported a post, objecting to it's content. I mean, if you can't at least do that, why should I even get involved?
Quote from: Mike Scott on April 17, 2019, 03:05:44 PM
I don't know how seriously I'm supposed to take your complaints? Not once have you reported a post, objecting to it's content. I mean, if you can't at least do that, why should I even get involved?
Actually I have. Maybe my reports just get automatically sent to the "just ignore it" pile?
Quote from: Big Bad Wolf on April 17, 2019, 03:07:32 PM
Actually I have. Maybe my reports just get automatically sent to the "just ignore it" pile?
There's a "Report to moderator" at the bottom of every post - Have you used that?
Quote from: Big Bad Wolf on April 17, 2019, 01:57:08 PMI don't start these fights....
Quote from: Big Bad Wolf on April 17, 2019, 02:20:36 PMHe came in here out of the blue to go after me, I didn't insult him.
Nonsense. I said
nothing about you at all, and then you didn't just disagree with my opinion, you directed insults at me!
You and Mord posted words critical of FOX. I then made a simple post setting out what I liked the most about FOX. In it I said nothing whatsoever about you at all. You then responded with a post referencing
me:
Quote from: Big Bad Wolf on April 16, 2019, 05:00:08 PM
Quote from: HepcatIf I watched any U.S. TV news networks, FOX would be my choice for two reasons:
1. John Stossel. He's simply the best TV docu-journalist of all time.
2. A goodly portion of the rest of FOX's newscasters:
The same John Stossel who keeps whining about how everyone should be allowed to be as racist as they want and discriminate freely? I guess I'm glad you're not an admin, in that case.
But you go ahead and keep drinking that Faux News kool-aid, buddy. Not sure about spamming the thread with screenshots from the Stepford Wives though. Great movie, I just don't see how it's relevant?
And you really don't see how your words were patronizing, condescending and insulting to me?
Quote from: Big Bad Wolf on April 17, 2019, 02:20:36 PM...but let's all pretend Hepcat didn't say or do anything wrong because he's one of us, right gang!?
Yeah, sure, I most assuredly responded to your insulting remarks with many of my own. But, I said nothing bad about
anyone until you laid into
me for praising FOX! Why would you do such a thing? And then how could you expect me not to respond very strongly? Like I say, if someone wants to exchange insults, I'll oblige. I'm not a saint.
???
Quote from: Hepcat on April 17, 2019, 03:13:36 PM
Nonsense. I said nothing about you at all, and then you didn't just disagree with my opinion, you directed insults at me!...
And you really don't see how your words were patronizing, condescending and insulting to me?...
Aw, Hell! Somebody woke the damned CAT!
Quote from: Hepcat on April 17, 2019, 03:13:36 PM
Like I say, if someone wants to exchange insults, I'll oblige. I'm not a saint.
Quote from: Mike Scott on April 17, 2019, 02:39:10 PM
And yes, ignoring the other guy is the correct thing to do. Nobody's getting punched in the face. It's all just words.
Quote from: Mord on April 17, 2019, 02:38:25 PMLook, Hep has always been an a-hole. He knows it, and cherishes when he gets under someone's skin. You're just feeding the beast. Why do you think certain leaders make jackass bullies of themselves? Answer...because it draws a response. Not being the center of attention is devastating to bullies.
You've
attacked me and made insulting remarks about my musical preferences (of all things!) at least twice, and one other time you asked me whether I was interested at all in anything beyond the sixties. Meanwhile never have I criticized you anywhere else. Yet I'm the "a-hole"!!!
You just don't like me because my tastes don't closely correspond to your own in many areas (including music). Well so what? We're all different people.
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Quote from: Monsters For Sale on April 17, 2019, 03:09:51 PM
There's a "Report to moderator" at the bottom of every post - Have you used that?
Of course not, I sent a carrier pigeon. ::)
Quote from: Hepcat on April 17, 2019, 03:24:09 PM
... Well so what? We're all different people....
I'm not.
Incidentally the spire that collapsed in the fire was "only" an add-on to the cathedral in the mid-nineteenth century:
Quote from: WikipediaNotre-Dame de Paris, meaning "Our Lady of Paris"), often referred to simply as Notre-Dame, is a medieval Catholic cathedral on the Île de la Cité in the 4th arrondissement of Paris, France. The cathedral is consecrated to the Virgin Mary and considered to be one of the finest examples of French Gothic architecture. Its innovative use of the rib vault and flying buttress, its enormous and colourful rose windows, and the naturalism and abundance of its sculptural decoration set it apart from the earlier Romanesque style.
The cathedral was begun in 1160 under Bishop Maurice de Sully and was largely complete by 1260, though it was modified frequently in the following centuries. In the 1790s, Notre-Dame suffered desecration during the French Revolution; much of its religious imagery was damaged or destroyed. In 1804, the cathedral was the site of the Coronation of Napoleon I as Emperor of France, and witnessed the baptism of Henri, Count of Chambord in 1821 and the funerals of several presidents of the Third French Republic.
Popular interest in the cathedral blossomed soon after the publication, in 1831, of Victor Hugo's novel Notre-Dame de Paris (in English, The Hunchback of Notre-Dame). This led to a major restoration project between 1844 and 1864, supervised by Eugène Viollet-le-Duc, who added the cathedral's iconic spire.
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Quote from: Big Bad Wolf on April 17, 2019, 03:25:16 PM
Of course not, I sent a carrier pigeon. ::)
One useful thing I learned in elementary school was that if I pretended not to be ticklish,
I wasn't pestered.
But, professional victims don't really want help, do they? Just sympathy.
Poor soul..., poor soul. There there..., there there.
Quote from: Hepcat on April 17, 2019, 03:24:09 PM
Yet I'm the "a-hole"!!
I'm glad you see it "my way" (as Sinatra would say)
Quote from: Monsters For Sale on April 17, 2019, 02:54:26 PMYou might wanna rethink that fierce avatar....
I really liked Big Bad Wolf's first avatar when it was the Walt Disney character:
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I'm starting to think the carrier pigeons would be more efficient. But by all means, continue the pile-on, everyone.
Quote from: Big Bad Wolf on April 17, 2019, 03:53:38 PM
I'm starting to think the carrier pigeons would be more efficient. But by all means, continue the pile-on, everyone.
So you're a masochist?
NO! SUFFER!
Quote from: Monsters For Sale on April 17, 2019, 04:09:17 PM
Masochist never do.
Do you honestly think I want this, man? Do you think I'm enjoying myself right now?
So we are at 80 reply's and only about the first 14 were actually about the fire.Just another thread flushed down the toilet.
Quote from: Kidagain on April 17, 2019, 04:59:23 PM
So we are at 80 reply's and only about the first 14 were actually about the fire.Just another thread flushed down the toilet.
Don't worry. This is my last post. I won't inconvenience you anymore. I kept fighting because some part of me still hoped I'd be heard, that I'd be understood, but I was wrong. Aside from a single member here, I'm not being heard. I'm not being understood. My words are being taken out of context. I'm being mocked now. I'm sure I'll be mocked long after I'm gone. And anyone with the power to do anything just doesn't care. They pretend not to know what to do, that they are acting fair and considerate when they're not. They're really not. They should care that a member feels this way, but they don't.
Because at the end of the day, I am just not wanted here. I never asked for special treatment. I never felt like I belonged enough to be a really active member. I just hoped that if someone here went too far, if someone here did something wrong, that I could count on everyone to do what's right.
But I was wrong about that. You all protect your own, look the other way, and put on an act like I'm crazy, like you don't know what to do or what I want, like I'm a "professional victim".
I'm not a professional victim. I'm a human being with feelings that don't matter to anyone in here. And it's never ever going to matter to anyone. No one is going to reflect on me after the fact. No one is going to consider a change in the way things are done. I'll just be the punchline to someone's in jokes.
I'm done. I know I'm not welcome here. And I know that no one is going care enough to bother to figure out why I felt that way and do something about it, so it doesn't happen to anyone else.
So yeah. I'm out for real this time. Go ahead start the party.
Calgon take me away!
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