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Re: Moebius Frankenstein...
« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2009, 02:05:20 PM »
I don't think undercuts have anything to do with the problems people are seeing in this sculpt.  The artist made some choices with the head and pants that several potential customers find displeasing.

With the Moebius Mummy kit, was that really a completely original sculpt, or did it have some connection to the Sideshow premium format Mummy?  It was obviously based on the Sideshow figure, especially the oversized, double-wide sarcophagus.

Which was actually based on the old Janus kit.
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Re: Moebius Frankenstein...
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2009, 02:07:59 PM »
And, even though I love him dearly-- I must say this-- to heck with the Karloff Frankenstein. I have seen enough of him lately! I want a Chaney Jr. "Ghost of Frankenstein" being broken out of the Sulfur pit, or holding the little girl. Why doesn't Ghost get any love?
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Re: Moebius Frankenstein...
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2009, 03:59:48 PM »
Creepy Jeff.
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Re: Moebius Frankenstein...
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2009, 04:55:58 PM »
Blahhhhhhhhh. Outside of the sculpt issues with the head and legs, it's simply.........BLAAAHHHH.

It looks like an extremely bored businessman entering a meeting he dreads. All sense of menace and drama have been effectively drained from the piece. I can't pinpoint it, but something elemental is missing which renders this sculpt insipid, whitebread, and absolutely devoid of monsterhood..

If the Osmonds collaborated in putting out a monster kit, this would be it. All it needs is a nametag and a Bible and he could be marketed as "Frankenstein's Monster..........Mormon Missionary."

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Re: Moebius Frankenstein...
« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2009, 05:01:03 PM »
I'll probably pass on it.  I passed on the Mummy too.  Monarch captures the spirit of Aurora more for me.  If they ever put anything else out that is. ::)

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Re: Moebius Frankenstein...
« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2009, 05:32:14 PM »
Seems to me the major issue is the head is proportionately too large for the body.  Take a hard look at the movie still -- and then the kit.  His head's too big.



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Re: Moebius Frankenstein...
« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2009, 06:13:27 PM »
i finally broke down and got a moebius mummy, but it is a little bit too much still life to me. it is a well done kit, however.

i will get one moebius frank but he seems too thin. and sleepwalking.

now that some have mentioned that he looks like a bored businessman, that opens up numerous kitbashing possibilities!

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Re: Moebius Frankenstein...
« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2009, 07:07:39 PM »
Creepy Jeff.
 Are you going to be carrying these kits for us?
Howdy all - indeed, I planned on picking this up all along and had high hopes for the likeness, given how well done the Mummy kit is.  My only complaint (and it's important to me) is the face.  It does have an imperial toys feel to it, like the "build-a-Frank" likeness.   Having said that, there's still the Universal Studios license it has going for it and for that, the fact that I love Moebius for doing these kits and the good price point, I'm in.  These are going to retail for $35 I believe and per usual, my price is 20% off of that.  So $28 for anyone who's interested.  Please send me a PM or email to jeff(at)cjclassics.com  Thank you!

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Re: Moebius Frankenstein...
« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2009, 08:05:50 PM »
Both The Mummy, and this Frankenstein models
have the Universal License.  Makes me wonder if Uni didn't step in,
and mess with the likenesses.

The Mummy has great scenery, but the deal breakers for me
on both these models are the very 'generic' looking sculpts.
Karloff like, but not. 

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Re: Moebius Frankenstein...
« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2009, 10:21:08 PM »
Its not that great, but you cant blame the sculptor, I know the sculpts get disfigured and shrink in the process to make it styrene. I know the original mummy sculpt looked WAY different then it actually turned out, and I'm sure that was the case for the Frankenstein.
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Re: Moebius Frankenstein...
« Reply #25 on: July 19, 2009, 10:27:57 PM »
Would love to see what the prototype looks like in order to compare.

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Re: Moebius Frankenstein...
« Reply #26 on: July 19, 2009, 10:59:54 PM »
I'm not familiar with a Sideshow Mummy, but I also don't collect Sideshow statues. Gabriel Marquez is the sculptor of the Moebius Mummy, and he also sculpted the sarcophagus and base of the Janus kit. Jeff Yagher sculpted the figure in the Janus kit.
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Re: Moebius Frankenstein...
« Reply #27 on: July 20, 2009, 07:41:57 AM »
Yecchh... not impressed.

I mean, God bless 'em for making it; 'more monster kits' is always a good idea.

But not only does it not look remotely like Karloff (to these eyes at any rate), it has no other character whatsoever. It's pegged, stilted, disproportionate and lifeless.

I don't think the problem has a thing to do with styrene or undercuts.

Pass.


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Re: Moebius Frankenstein...
« Reply #28 on: July 21, 2009, 01:05:38 PM »
OK - styrene and undercuts? The sculpt is...horrible...what a let-down! I was really looking forward to this model...! Sorry, I hate to hurt feelings, but this really stinks. This is supposed to be Karloff?

Comparing plastic models to resin and vinyl garage kits is stupid. Two different animals.

On this kit,

1) That doesn't look a thing like Karloff, or Frankenstein's Monster, or even a combination of the two

2) The hands look too small and the legs are wrong - too stilted, not bowed.

3) I can't tell for sure, but it looks like the head isn't arched forward enough (neck doesn't stick out enough or something)

4) The  coat sleeves look too short

5) The brick wall - wrong shaped bricks. And the floor boards run straight? How about angling the floorboards or something so it doesn't look so BORING? Who sculpted this? Was the base done by a different sculptor?

IMHO it's absolutely boring - staged, stilted, boring!

And the worst part, that looks NOTHING like Karloff to me...

I hope the people in charge of this project take note of this thread somehow and DO SOMETHING FAST. This could be a GREAT kit, but not at this rate...
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Re: Moebius Frankenstein...
« Reply #29 on: July 21, 2009, 03:58:39 PM »
OK - styrene and undercuts? The sculpt is...horrible...what a let-down! I was really looking forward to this model...! Sorry, I hate to hurt feelings, but this really stinks. This is supposed to be Karloff?

Comparing plastic models to resin and vinyl garage kits is stupid. Two different animals.

On this kit,

1) That doesn't look a thing like Karloff, or Frankenstein's Monster, or even a combination of the two

2) The hands look too small and the legs are wrong - too stilted, not bowed.

3) I can't tell for sure, but it looks like the head isn't arched forward enough (neck doesn't stick out enough or something)

4) The  coat sleeves look too short

5) The brick wall - wrong shaped bricks. And the floor boards run straight? How about angling the floorboards or something so it doesn't look so BORING? Who sculpted this? Was the base done by a different sculptor?

IMHO it's absolutely boring - staged, stilted, boring!

And the worst part, that looks NOTHING like Karloff to me...

I hope the people in charge of this project take note of this thread somehow and DO SOMETHING FAST. This could be a GREAT kit, but not at this rate...
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