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Moebius Frankenstein...
« on: July 18, 2009, 09:32:44 PM »

The New Moebius FRANKENSTEIN...



What do you guys think?

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Re: Moebius Frankenstein...
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2009, 10:28:08 PM »
The paintjob is really great, but the sculpt is Tskuda/Imperial like (toy-like), to me. The suit's material looks too tight and flat on his body (especially in the pants- Brits call those stovepipe trousers) and not modelled as well as it could be. He'd blow out his breeches if he bent over. It resembles Karloff in the face, but with some of the fabulous garage kits I've seen, my grade on this sculpt is a "C". The paint, "A". Still nice they even did it, though, and I'm sure it was fun to build.


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Re: Moebius Frankenstein...
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2009, 10:49:53 PM »
Yeah, i'm not nuts about it. Maybe w/ a different facial paint job?? [ everything else paint-wise is perfect!] The head seems weirdly shaped to me. Pants looks too tight and meet the shoes in a strange Levi's tight fit kind of way. All minor stuff that could be fixed... I guess it's too late for a re-sculpt?

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Re: Moebius Frankenstein...
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2009, 11:53:45 PM »
Looks like an amateur Resin Kit. Just horrible.
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Re: Moebius Frankenstein...
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2009, 12:25:16 AM »
I didn't even know this was out yet.  How much did it cost?

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Re: Moebius Frankenstein...
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2009, 02:19:43 AM »
wow...Very Disappointed

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Re: Moebius Frankenstein...
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2009, 02:36:30 AM »
The face looks weird.  Could be the lighting but not what I expected.  I didn't think this was a very dynamic pose but I wasn't expecting it to look this goofy.  Kinda reminds me of the Horizon vinyls.  

I feel like the Monster Scenes Frankenstein has more charcter (even though he's a bit of a sourpus)...



With all that slagging, I will still buy one though.  I know it doesn't seem this way but I'm thankful they made this kit. Just a bit dissapointed.

I'm still hopefull they make a Creature.  Even if they don't get an exact likeness, it should still look great.

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Re: Moebius Frankenstein...
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2009, 02:36:39 AM »
The head is too "stylized." Kind of squat or fat, or something.  It doesn't look right.  The pants are odd.  The texture of the clothes doesn't bother me.  But I'd like to see the head and legs redone.
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Re: Moebius Frankenstein...
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2009, 05:25:53 AM »
I think that , while a lot of the critiquing is warranted, the solution is simple.  It's just a styrene plastic kit that probably sells for $30-$50. Comparatively "cheap" by today's standards. While Monarch seemed to get it perfect with Nosferatu...its the only kit that's actually seen release for the masses from them.  Moebius's kits might not be Janus Co. or Sideshow.  But...they aren't charging as much as Janus did or Sideshow does, and they have released a lot more product than Monarch (my favorite of the two...but sooooo slooooow).

Maybe some of the detail got lost in the casting process.  Still (to argue with myslef) Aurora's Chaney Mummy kit from 40-50 years ago is dead on....so I dunno. ;). I will probably pass on it... as spending on non-essentials has become nearly impossible due to this recession. Can we get closer face shots?

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Re: Moebius Frankenstein...
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2009, 08:44:21 AM »
Even though it was painted by one of the best model painters out there, David Fisher, I'm not impressed with the model itself. The likeness, hands, pants, well, almost everything makes it a no buy for me.

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Re: Moebius Frankenstein...
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2009, 08:54:17 AM »

Yes...I think it needs a little tweeking...This is the New kit by Moebius and hasn't been released yet...still under developement...
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Re: Moebius Frankenstein...
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2009, 11:20:42 AM »
I think that , while a lot of the critiquing is warranted, the solution is simple.  It's just a styrene plastic kit that probably sells for $30-$50. Comparatively "cheap" by today's standards. While Monarch seemed to get it perfect with Nosferatu...its the only kit that's actually seen release for the masses from them.  Moebius's kits might not be Janus Co. or Sideshow.  But...they aren't charging as much as Janus did or Sideshow does, and they have released a lot more product than Monarch (my favorite of the two...but sooooo slooooow).

Maybe some of the detail got lost in the casting process.  Still (to argue with myslef) Aurora's Chaney Mummy kit from 40-50 years ago is dead on....so I dunno. ;). I will probably pass on it... as spending on non-essentials has become nearly impossible due to this recession. Can we get closer face shots?


Thing is, $30-$50 ain't cheap, and the old Aurora blows this one away. With the countless kits on the market, this one is an easy pass, even if I was looking for a kit to buy. There's just too much great stuff around. As discussed a few months back, the Yaeger Jack Davis Frankenstein is one of best Frankenstein kits I've ever seen, and for what it is trying to portray, is light years ahead of something like this. I would much quicker spend $125 on the Davis kit...oops...I already did!



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Re: Moebius Frankenstein...
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2009, 12:05:08 PM »
Moebius really raised the bar for itself with its wonderful Mummy kit. I wouldn't deny that the Frankie kit is a step down from that one. Still, I doubt you'll find a better Karloff likeness in styrene and you won't get much resin for the same price (I've heard MSRP is $35).

I'm confident enough with Aves putty to make a couple of changes that might help a bit. Maybe give a little bit more of a point to the chin to make the face look thinner. Add a few wrinkles to the pants to loosen them up a bit.

Certainly a kit I'll pick up and I, like others, hope Moebius continues making Universal monsters.

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Re: Moebius Frankenstein...
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2009, 01:33:24 PM »
Keep in mind that styrene kits can't compete with resin kits in terms of detail and undercuts. While the resin kit is made with flexible sillicone rubber molds (that tear after +40 pulls), the Mobius kit is made with injection molded steel molds, which can't reproduce undercuts.
I think its decent for a 35 bucks pricetag - you can tweak it alittle with epoxy putty - I will....
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Re: Moebius Frankenstein...
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2009, 01:53:22 PM »
Keep in mind that styrene kits can't compete with resin kits in terms of detail and undercuts. While the resin kit is made with flexible sillicone rubber molds (that tear after +40 pulls), the Mobius kit is made with injection molded steel molds, which can't reproduce undercuts.
I think its decent for a 35 bucks pricetag - you can tweak it alittle with epoxy putty - I will....
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I don't think undercuts have anything to do with the problems people are seeing in this sculpt.  The artist made some choices with the head and pants that several potential customers find displeasing.

With the Moebius Mummy kit, was that really a completely original sculpt, or did it have some connection to the Sideshow premium format Mummy?  It was obviously based on the Sideshow figure, especially the oversized, double-wide sarcophagus.
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