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Dr.Terror

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Re: Jack Pierce Frankenstein reference head
« Reply #30 on: September 29, 2023, 05:13:42 PM »
There is zero buzz or mention of this anywhere else.   Not even the practical effects group  run and frequented by industry pros.  Thats what makes me very doubtful its Pierces.   Im still thinking this was simply created by the same artist for another use.

This should be the talk of the monster world if legit.

If it turns out to be real (which I dont think it is), the guy is still nuts thinking anyone will pay that kind of $$ for a copy. 
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Re: Jack Pierce Frankenstein reference head
« Reply #31 on: September 29, 2023, 11:11:35 PM »
Well, from looking at his video, and studying frame grabs, with original stills, that Iíve had help posting here for all UMAs to study over too, I think it is the true head.

I understand your concerns Dr Terror, but with my understanding of the process then, Iím not sure Pierce, and the makers of this original head mold would be able to pour up another copy then. 

I think molding materials, and methods then allowed for one positive pull, as they would have to destroy the mold to get their positive out.  Other wise why didnít Pierce just pour up another copy for Bride make up, other than rework this original head.  Yes, no true proof he did, or not, but going on how I think the materials then could, or not be used. 

Pierce did not pour up new make up pieces from molds on the 1st make up, as this was an unknown process then.  He later refused to use this process when it did become a known technique, but that was his choice.  The owners claim that this head was sculpted by Mrs Stuberg of Madame Tussaud wax museum could be, but how was this reached? 

This head does look like manikin heads of this period, and the paint, like the pinkish color in the nostrils etc really reads of that period, as other heads Iíve seen of that time.  Which adds to its correct time line, I believe.  Very interesting that you donít see, nor hear others talking about this ďfindĒ, I sure would love to see what Rick Baker, and other top make up pros think of this. 

Like me then, Rick also lost access to the original Pierce Bride dummy, now with the V/A museum of London, I still moan that piece slipped through my fingers.

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Re: Jack Pierce Frankenstein reference head
« Reply #32 on: September 30, 2023, 02:09:58 AM »
Exactly, there is so much we don't know.    An expert on wax figures would have to examine the head to determine if its been modified or if it came out of a mold that way.      One thing is for sure.

As of 1943 Jack's head had no hair.   I don't think Jack haired it if real.     Another possibility is Jack gifted it back to Stuberg and a wax artist haired it for display.

Could explain the memory of seeing this in a 40s era wax display photo.

 
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Re: Jack Pierce Frankenstein reference head
« Reply #33 on: December 02, 2023, 10:57:23 AM »
 Pierce's had screen accurate neck bolts with ther ound "discs" where they connect to the neck.       The found head  shows no indication the bolts were modified.

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