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Sir Masksalot

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Re: Monster Hands?
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2023, 06:33:42 PM »
Would love to finf a pair of the Delgado hands

He did the feet as well, Dr Terror. Mr Delgado sculpted all the separate elements
of that 1967 costume seen in Universal's "The Perils of Pauline" >



The best shots I have of them are actually from early DPS catalogs >

     

Post Studios later marketed resized versions at which time I bought two pair because they fit me better.
The set I wore with my own suit had applied hair although they were never produced as such. I added it
to conceal some damaged areas before selling them to another collector in 2010 >



My "archival" set remains with me today. Aside from a big crease above the left ankle,
they're in great condition at nearly fifty years old >



If they ever do crumble to pieces, it's a comfort that the original plaster molds may still exist ... somewhere ...





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Re: Monster Hands?
« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2023, 07:00:35 PM »
Cracked nails/no name  from morris ad.

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Sir Masksalot

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Re: Monster Hands?
« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2023, 10:23:26 AM »
While we're still on the subject, I think birthday wishes are in order. No, not for me ...
my oldest surviving pair of Frankenstein hands is turning fifty this year >



Over the decades, I've worn them at conventions, parties, and a variety of other occasions >

     

They've been stretched, cut, torn, scuffed, smudged, repainted, and generally abused for ages.
Do you see that thumb-sized notch in the left wrist? That chunk tore away the last time
I tried pulling them on and had to be taped/glued back in place!  :-\



I haven't attempted to wear them since ... and couldn't anyway. They're stiff as boards now.
If I tried, they'd probably shatter to bits.



I used to have a pair even older but all that's left of them is a couple of fossilized fragments,
retained in my archive for sentimental reasons >



I've got a really old pair of Wolfman hands from the same era which I'll post about later on.


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Re: Monster Hands?
« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2023, 12:26:07 AM »
Nice hands, Sir! Would you be able to foam fill something that old, or are they too fragile?

Sir Masksalot

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Re: Monster Hands?
« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2023, 11:32:53 AM »
Would you be able to foam fill something that old, or are they too fragile?

That's risky business. The old crisp latex could easily fracture due to the foam's expansion.
'Best to stuff gently with cotton balls or just leave as is.

I'd really love to show you all fresh new digital images of my very first pair of
DPS Wolfman hands but they're long gone and no close-up pics ever existed >



Luckily, my second oldest pair lasted into the phase when I began considering DP masks collectibles rather than toys >



They've turned rigid over the decades and are missing paint in a few areas but they're still here.  :) 
I keep the hair brushed so it doesn't get matted, a vital preservative measure for all DP masks with hair >






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Re: Monster Hands?
« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2023, 12:40:48 AM »
Wow, those hands still look new!

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Re: Monster Hands?
« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2023, 02:51:02 PM »
Those hands definitely look great. 

Funny how back when the Calendar Masks were reproduced by Don Post Studios, they tried scanning them and then reproducing a master by taking that scan and carving it into foam, but that didn't really work so they resorted to grey market casts  of originals and then resculpted in all the details in clay. 

With modern technology and 3d printers, they might be able to make exact copies of all the masks and hands.  they could even reproduce them as busts or in vinyl since latex rubber doesn't last.

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Re: Monster Hands?
« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2023, 12:03:50 AM »
That is so desirable for the next Re-Posting of these classic sculpts !

In fact, a few yrs before Post Studios rereleased the ‘90s Calendar Masks, I called Post Studios and talked directly to Don Jr himself. I asked him then if he might release these masks in resin as a more stable and lasting product.  He said he had actually thought of that too, but found out that each mold would have to be huge and heavier than the largest plaster molds they worked with at that time.

I too often  think now this current tech of computer 3D scanning etc holds such fascinating promise in bringing these sculpts/masks back to life.

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Re: Monster Hands?
« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2023, 04:55:39 AM »
I don't understand why the molds would be so much bigger and heavier than a masks plaster mold.  Essentially they took the clay mask sculpture, made a front and back plaster mold of that sculpt.  Depending on the mask, the mold would be about 2 - 3 inches thick.  so 2-3 inches bigger and being plaster heavy.  With model kits, they take the model part and make a silicone rubber mold of that part - usually a front and a back.  So with a mask, the mold would likely be the same thickness as a plaster mold, but silicone is lighter  than plaster.  Now it would likely need a "mother mold" outside of the silicone mold, just to hold the shape.  It could be made of plaster, thus that would be a lot thicker, but they could use plaster or plastic impregnated bandages like makeup artists do when making silicone rubber molds.  it just needs to make sure the silicone rubber retains its shape.

And with modern 3D scanning, they could scan the mask, clean it up in the computer, and then using a 3D printer print it out in plastic at any size.  Vinyl masks use a metal mold, usually 1 piece for masks.  they pour in hot vinyl, spin it around to get it in all cracks and crevices, and let it cool, and peal it out of the mold.  Great thing about that - the molds, being metal, don't wear out. 

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Re: Monster Hands?
« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2023, 11:39:04 AM »
Always wondered  why the early Uni walkarounds didnt wear hands?

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Re: Monster Hands?
« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2023, 03:55:09 PM »
Nice group of hands there!

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Re: Monster Hands?
« Reply #26 on: April 16, 2023, 03:09:33 AM »
I was thinking about the fact that the clenched Mummy hand is the right.  Seems like that would make for clumsy manipulation for the actor.

Was Lon Chaney, Jr. left-handed?
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Re: Monster Hands?
« Reply #27 on: April 16, 2023, 07:35:59 AM »
I was thinking about the fact that the clenched Mummy hand is the right.  Seems like that would make for clumsy manipulation for the actor.

Was Lon Chaney, Jr. left-handed?

Not sure but apparently Lon got a bit too real in some scenes with his left hand.😉
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Re: Monster Hands?
« Reply #28 on: April 19, 2023, 12:23:00 AM »
MonsterBaker666, yes my guess that the ‘mother mold’ used to hold the silicone sculpt mold on these would be bigger/thicker than normally used for latex rubber pulls.  That would also mean some back braking pouring and moving of these large molds around.  At that time I think Don Jr saw it just wasn’t feasible for his studio to do. 

Much later companies did offer their own sculpted 1:1 monster heads as the tech and materials advanced.  We are talking of old masks sculpts, and hands being offered in resins for a more lasting collectible. 

Again very excited in what maybe possible with the new computer tech.  I’m wondering how close we could be to bringing some of these classic, and so desirable lost masks sculpts back without the original molds.  How close are we to scanning old pics of these masks from say catalogs or old pics and rebuild it in computer and 3D print a master piece for remolding...makes me daydream of nightmares !


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Re: Monster Hands?
« Reply #29 on: April 19, 2023, 07:42:22 AM »
Youd have to get the owners of the original Newman stuff to allow it to be scanned.  Without it being an actual Don Post Studios project (not just in name) I doubt that will happen again.

The reissues didnt exactly break sales records at $100 a pop.    Fully painted and haired resin heads would cost much more all around to produce and sell than a latex mask.    Once you start getting into higher prices most would sooner get a screen accurate artists piece than something they can track down for much less in latex.     

We'll probably see some computer tweeked and retooled latex masks from  TOTS using whatever available masters they could obtain from the reissue.
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