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Do you prefer Boris Karloff Frankenstein's Monster or Glenn Strange?
As much as I love the Karloff/ Jack Pierce make up, I think for me the definitive version of Universal Monster Frankenstein is Glenn Strange.  Thoughts?

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Re: Do you prefer Boris Karloff Frankenstein's Monster or Glenn Strange?
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2020, 07:39:57 AM »
I'm a Karloff guy, through and through. I enjoy the Strange movies well enough, but I've always been drawn to Karloff more. My first real experience with the Monster was from the Crestwood Monster series books that my elementary school library had. It had a bunch of pictures of the various Frankenstein's Monster portrayals, but the Karloff one always looked the coolest to me.
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Re: Do you prefer Boris Karloff Frankenstein's Monster or Glenn Strange?
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2020, 10:48:44 AM »
Glenn definitely had the 'unstoppable force' thing going for him because of his size and better health than Karloff, but Karloff's monster was actually allowed to have personality.

I love the part in Abbott and Costello where Strange legitimately hefts a grown woman over his head and throws her out a window that's a solid 7 feet off the ground.  It's a terrific feat of strength and he does it like it's nothing.  It's a shame he wrecked his ankle while performing that stunt.

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Re: Do you prefer Boris Karloff Frankenstein's Monster or Glenn Strange?
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2020, 11:36:21 AM »
Hard to pick but growing up in the 50s and 60s Strange image of the monster was pretty much on everything for sale on Frankenstein. I believe the NY Times showed Strange's image of the monster when Karloff died. Strange wins it for me. Many people will say Strange didn't do much until ACMF but blame the scripts for that, he didn't get a chance to do anything.

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Re: Do you prefer Boris Karloff Frankenstein's Monster or Glenn Strange?
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2020, 11:42:57 AM »
I view Frankenstein through the same lens as The Hulk. Early origins created the unique look for the character, but as both grew in size and power levels....someone else took over the reins, and added their unique stamp. Kirby's Hulk was magnificent, but  the character was built upon by the likes of Trimpe and Buscema. Presently by Joe Bennett. So Karloff represents the classic origins look for the monster, but Strange took that and made his own look. One which many monster kids identify with.

That being said: Karloff is always King though as far as acting. Strange's Monster was primarily aesthetic, as the monster was reduced to a breathing prop in his flicks. His face made him memorable as the monster. Acting though? Karloff made you scared in the first one (of the unknown), he made you cry in the second one, and when the third one rolled around, in the scene with Peter's picture book...he showed us the inner workings of the monster's criminal brain in action. Without so much as uttering a word. Each had something to offer. Karloff originated the role and was a better actor.

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Re: Do you prefer Boris Karloff Frankenstein's Monster or Glenn Strange?
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2020, 12:07:30 PM »
I love the part . . where Strange legitimately hefts a grown woman over his head and throws her out a window that's a solid 7 feet off the ground.

Well, semi legit, since Aubert (and a stunt woman) were hanging from wires.
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Re: Do you prefer Boris Karloff Frankenstein's Monster or Glenn Strange?
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2020, 01:32:14 PM »
My first Frankenstein monster was Karloff.  That means he will always be the Original - kinda like the first version you hear of a song.

Strange was the best-looking monster.  But, like a later, better version of a song, he tends to occupy a secondary place in my heart.

Also, Karloff's acting was more nuanced than Strange's - who was quite good, just not as emotional and sympathetic.


Poor Bela, comes in third.  But I LOVE Frankenstein Meets the Wolfman, a movie that feels more legitimately part of the original Frankenstein saga than does any of the Strange movies, that are good - but seem more like afterthoughts in the whole legend.  (Yes, I realize that I appreciate the plot and execution of Meets above Lugosi's makeup and acting.)

Just my thoughts.  You are entitled to disagree as much as you want - if you don't mind being wrong.
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Re: Do you prefer Boris Karloff Frankenstein's Monster or Glenn Strange?
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2020, 02:30:53 PM »
Well, semi legit, since Aubert (and a stunt woman) were hanging from wires.

I had to look up a clip of it.  The lady is even hanging onto the wire!  I remember it being a lot less obvious for some reason.

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Re: Do you prefer Boris Karloff Frankenstein's Monster or Glenn Strange?
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2020, 04:14:15 PM »
In terms of what's "iconic" to me it's Strange.  That's what I think of when I think of the Monster.   But Karloff is completely unique, and his performances are unmatched.   The first two movies in the series are brilliant-- the rest of them are fun.   I just recently watched HOUSE OF FRANKENSTEIN the other day after a long long time and it was a hoot.  I forget how it's really like two movies shoved into one.   

But if I close my eyes and think FRANKENSTEIN'S MONSTER I see Glenn Strange as rendered by Basil Gogos on a Famous Monsters cover.

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Re: Do you prefer Boris Karloff Frankenstein's Monster or Glenn Strange?
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2020, 06:44:22 PM »
Karloff.  Without a doubt he IS Frankenstein
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Re: Do you prefer Boris Karloff Frankenstein's Monster or Glenn Strange?
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2020, 11:08:26 PM »
For the movies, Karloff is way ahead. No comparison, really.

However, I love all of the Strange-based merchandise. He just "looks" like more like Frankenstein's monster as an icon.

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Re: Do you prefer Boris Karloff Frankenstein's Monster or Glenn Strange?
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2020, 03:49:33 AM »
Karloff is King, but Glenn Strange is the Monster for me! He's so iconic!
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Re: Do you prefer Boris Karloff Frankenstein's Monster or Glenn Strange?
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2020, 01:12:07 PM »
Gotta go with Boris Karloff. He was the first Universal Frankenstein I saw, and is THE Frankenstein. Although the first Frankenstein I ever saw was Robert De Niro. Rewatching the first two though my favorite character might be Frankenstein himself.
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Re: Do you prefer Boris Karloff Frankenstein's Monster or Glenn Strange?
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2020, 02:01:49 AM »
I have to say that I love them all! Although, I do have a specific order to share that love:

1. Karloff. Like Adam said - he was first that I saw. He scared me most. His growl is priceless!

2. Glenn Strange. My favorite version of Glenn's monster is in A&C meet Frankenstein. Compare Glenn with the Pierce & Westmore versions of the makeup. The modifications that Westmore added to the makeup... make all the difference: The Monsterís hair is longer in the back, with the hair on each side of the monsterís head combed back, giving it a better look. There is more shading on the Monsterís face, and the body padding looks to have been increased as well. The finished result is the finest looking version of the Glenn Strange Monster.

3. Lon Chaney Jr. Not a big fan of the film in general. Mainly because the monster plays bully with Igor. The script isn't great either as we get another version of "The Monster Meets The Kid" again!

4. Bela Lugosi. Poor Bela, a victim of Post Production tampering. The shooting script features all of Bela's (monster's/Igor's) dialogue, and I had always hoped that it would have been found. The Monster sitting with Talbot and talking about his dilemma may have sounded hilarious to viewers even in Igor's voice. It's amazing that what worked to close a film in 1942, doesn't work in 1943.   


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Re: Do you prefer Boris Karloff Frankenstein's Monster or Glenn Strange?
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2020, 02:05:09 AM »
I have to say that I love them all! ... 

I didn't even think about Chaney!
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