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Disney putting Fox titles in the vault
« on: October 28, 2019, 09:12:56 PM »


https://www.vulture.com/2019/10/disney-is-quietly-placing-classic-fox-movies-into-its-vault.html


"Joe Neff knew there was trouble when the horror films started vanishing.

Neff is the director of the 24-Hour Science Fiction and Horror Marathons that happen every spring and fall at the Drexel Theater, an independent venue in Columbus, Ohio. For this year’s Horror Marathon, Neff wanted to screen the original 1976 version of The Omen and the 1986 remake of The Fly, two of hundreds of older 20th Century Fox features that became the property of the Walt Disney Corporation after its $71.3 billion purchase of the studio’s parent company, 21st Century Fox, was made official this past spring. In the preceding few months, Neff had heard rumblings in his Google group of film programmers that Disney was about to start treating older Fox titles as they do older Disney titles — making them mostly unavailable to for-profit theaters. More and more film programmers and theater managers were reporting that they had suddenly and cryptically been told by their studio contacts that Fox’s back catalogue was no longer available to show. Some got calls informing them that an existing booking had been revoked.

When Neff’s requests to screen The Fly and The Omen were denied — via the Drexel, which handles the logistics of booking a programmer’s requested titles — he realized the rumors were true, and that he had to stop screening Fox films altogether. It was a devastating blow: Neff’s homegrown repertory festivals have shown many older Fox movies, including Beneath the Planet of the Apes, Zardoz, the original versions of The Day the Earth Stood Still and Suspiria, and Phantom of the Paradise. He asked the theater to double-check with Disney to make sure there hadn’t been some mistake. “Our Fox booking contact offered a very brief apology that she could no longer book repertory titles with the theater,” he says.

Sadly, Neff’s experience is indicative of a recent trend across North America, where it’s sometimes hard to tell exactly what Disney’s new policy regarding back-catalogue films is, beyond generally making it more difficult to show classic 20th Century Fox movies in theaters. The Transit Drive-In in Lockport, New York, which has hosted packed screenings of older Fox films like Alien, Aliens, Say Anything, The Princess Bride, and Moulin Rouge, says those films and others can no longer be screened there. The Little Theater in Rochester booked Fox’s Fight Club for August and was told by a Disney spokesperson mere days before the scheduled screening that a Digital Cinema Package (DCP) of the movie would no longer be shipped; then a Disney representative called the theater to apologize for the misunderstanding, and assured management that the film was still on its way; the reversal happened a day after a Los Angeles Times reporter called Disney asking them to clarify their repertory policies."

"More than one exhibition professional contacted for this article speculated that Disney’s overall goal is to claim as many screens at a theater as possible for its newer titles, even if some of them are packing the house but others are selling just a handful of tickets per show. A former theater manager for a major chain, who asked not to be identified in this piece, says, “It seems short-sighted, you know? But they do it, I think, just to keep a Sony title out, to keep a Universal title out.” The Fox freeze out, he speculates, may be an extension of that tactic: Disney considers any screen that’s taken up by an older movie, even one that’s owned by Disney, to be a screen that could be showing the new Marvel or Star Wars title instead. Or showing Orangutans 4 to an audience of three."

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Re: Disney putting Fox titles in the vault
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2019, 10:03:36 PM »
 I've despised Disney as far back as childhood. Damn them. Screw Star Wars and Marvel Universe.

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Re: Disney putting Fox titles in the vault
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2019, 01:06:05 PM »
 Disney wants a monopoly with a cult for a fan base.

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Re: Disney putting Fox titles in the vault
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2019, 01:26:22 AM »
It seems Disney fear this movies take some potential viewers away from Marvel or Star Wars...

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Re: Disney putting Fox titles in the vault
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2019, 11:32:15 AM »

Any idea how this might affect the home video market?
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Re: Disney putting Fox titles in the vault
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2019, 01:35:13 PM »
Are either available on Disney+? 

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Re: Disney putting Fox titles in the vault
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2019, 02:15:36 PM »
The Mouse is all about the Dollar....Pretty sad....
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Re: Disney putting Fox titles in the vault
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2019, 02:22:52 PM »
Any idea how this might affect the home video market?

As I go Christmas shopping, I notice a drastic decline in emphasis on home video. It's all about the streaming services (especially with Disney). Why do you think you get a "free" digital download with every disc you buy? They would rather charge you for a movie and not have to manufacture anything. I'm not paying to store movies in some "cloud", no matter how ancient that makes me sound. I only consider the cloud for stashing porn.

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Re: Disney putting Fox titles in the vault
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2019, 05:22:18 PM »
Disney loves to manipulate it's customers and the market by withdrawing it's product for extended periods of time, and also bends to public complaints to edit out objectionable content for the latest attempt at wiping out our social history - you know, so no one ever has to admit to, or deal with it.

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Re: Disney putting Fox titles in the vault
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2019, 09:24:30 PM »
Are either available on Disney+?

The Fly or Omen?  No, definitely not but they may end up on Hulu along with other FOX films that aren't available on Disney+.

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Re: Disney putting Fox titles in the vault
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2019, 04:37:34 PM »
Some Fox stuff is on Disney+.  Home Alone for example.

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Re: Disney putting Fox titles in the vault
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2019, 01:29:26 AM »
Some Fox stuff is on Disney+.  Home Alone for example.

It doesn't make sense for them to keep the Fox titles off Disney+.  I'm sure they will appear eventually... maybe later rather than sooner. 

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Re: Disney putting Fox titles in the vault
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2019, 01:44:52 PM »
They may also be keeping the content on Disney+ family friendly specifically, and moving the more mature titles to Hulu.

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« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2019, 08:23:03 AM »
They may also be keeping the content on Disney+ family friendly specifically, and moving the more mature titles to Hulu.

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