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Monsters fading from collective memory
« on: January 12, 2019, 06:01:43 PM »
This article is both informative and depressing.

http://nautil.us/issue/68/context/how-well-forget-john-lennon

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« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2019, 06:51:51 PM »
Universal would have to use its intellectual property in order to avoid this from happening.  I say, they sell it off to a smaller company who can better handle the material and keep it in the public eye.

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« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2019, 08:27:19 PM »
There are more ways millennials can access history, cinematic and otherwise, than ever before.
That they choose not to avail themselves of these resources is their choice ... and their loss.

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« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2019, 10:28:03 PM »
While I am surprised that the twenty year old student did not know the song-Imagine. Elvis' popularity is not viable any longer. I was eleven
when Elvis died. That same year Groucho Marx, died three days later. Yet, because Elvis died. He (Elvis) received so much press. Leaving Marx a blurb at that moment.

Now as an eleven year old kid, that made me angry. Marx is and was extremely talented and intelligent. Elvis....whatever.
I don't feel collecting pop culture will fade anytime soon. Judging by millennial YouTube'rs and their affinity and love of pop culture, especially Horror.
The collecting bug has flourished. Inundated with collecting videos, movie reviews, vinyl reviews, Horror masks, toys...etc....etc.
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« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2019, 12:32:14 AM »
Did anyone read the replies to the article. I was somewhat taken aback by some of the comments on Lennon. I mean when Imagine came out no one batted an eye but over the years that song has pi##ed off so many people its not even funny. I really don't understand how some people can be so offended by it.

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« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2019, 01:05:42 AM »
Clip from a classic WKRP episode on censorship that featured "Imagine".

https://youtu.be/QQ2OSoWI9eU
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« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2019, 06:18:56 PM »
Did anyone read the replies to the article. I was somewhat taken aback by some of the comments on Lennon. I mean when Imagine came out no one batted an eye but over the years that song has pi##ed off so many people its not even funny. I really don't understand how some people can be so offended by it.

Count me among those that absolutely hate that song. For starters, it's just not very artistic. It's got a simple melody with even simpler lyrics.  Honestly, if an elementary school teacher assigned her class to write an essay entitled "How I'd fix the world," I imagine it'd read similar to Lennon's song.

 Additionally, he openly advocates for Communism while he himself owned many homes and was worth millions. Then he tells us to imagine a world with 'no heaven, religion, nations, possessions, nothing to fight or die for.' My question is, if such an existence is realized, what do we have to live for?

John Lennon was imagining a world where everyone got along, which is fine. I'm all for that, but when you imply that we can obtain utopia by abolishing the ideals many hold dear, it's not hard to see why people have a visceral reaction to it. For the life of me, I can't understand why it's so darn popular.

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« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2019, 06:50:47 PM »
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« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2019, 08:13:23 PM »
Did anyone read the replies to the article. I was somewhat taken aback by some of the comments on Lennon. I mean when Imagine came out no one batted an eye but over the years that song has pi##ed off so many people its not even funny. I really don't understand how some people can be so offended by it.

What happened is the '80s came along.     

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« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2019, 09:02:26 PM »
I think the main point of the song is to Imagine life without want or pain or fear. Nothing more and nothing less. He's not promoting Communism or implying you can obtain utopia through the censorship of ideas. He would be one of the last people to support censorship.

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« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2019, 10:05:39 PM »
Lennon's ideology was a contradiction. He wanted peace among Men. Yet it has been documented Lennon had raging temper. Great example of peace.

Really, Lennon was an overrated Rock Star.
So.....f*** him. I did not shed a tear when he passed away. Although it was tragic how he died. In truth. Lennon is just another person who the media and his management portrayed the mystique of singer/songwriter. The Beatles, included.

The song Imagine is boring and not a great song.

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« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2019, 02:44:30 AM »
Wow, I guess I really don't belong here. I'll miss this place.

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« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2019, 03:25:59 AM »
Wow, I guess I really don't belong here. I'll miss this place.

I have all of Lennon's albums and I'm not going anywhere.
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« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2019, 04:14:04 PM »
Wow, I guess I really don't belong here. I'll miss this place.

Like all music; it is subjective and I was not being subversive towards Lennons' legendary status. Just my opinion. Lennon is not my cup o' tea, either is Elvis.

That said. Everyone who is a member of the UMA belongs, here. To have fun and discuss many topics. Whether it be Monsters, Music or etc.
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« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2019, 07:31:08 PM »
I blame it on parents.  My 11 year old daughter wanted a record player for Christmas and one of the albums she wanted to go with it was Elvis....and my kids damn sure know who the Universal monsters are and the actors that played them.  They also know other music and movies, from the 20's, 30's, 40's, 50's, 60's, etc. they may not like all of it but they at least got exposed to it.