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Re: Does Star Wars need more films like Solo?
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2018, 12:17:53 PM »
The problem with Lucasfilm has more to do with the management (ie Kathleen Kennedy) and the overall overtones in the newer films. If anything the box office of Solo was affected by the backlash from the fans towards the Last Jedi.What do you expect when Kennedy herself stated that she isn't worried about pleasing the fans? Who is she trying to appeal to? Did anyone even want a Solo film?  I think Disney needs to ascertain who there fanbase is (the ones buying the figures, toys, buying the box sets)  and how to best move forward with the franchise.

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Re: Does Star Wars need more films like Solo?
« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2018, 01:59:15 PM »
Overall, I've really enjoyed the Disney entries (in spite of a few quibbles about superfluous segments).  I do feel, however, that many of the new characters in the current trilogy aren't quite as endearing/engaging as they could be.  Poe has had his moments, yet I feel more could be done with both he and Finn's characters.  I feel much the same way about Captain Phasma.  If you see the Blu-ray of LAST JEDI, there is an alternate version of her final scene from the film that gave her a bit more to do than what we ultimately got.  I'd like to have seen that used instead, especially since her character had so little screen time in this episode to begin with.

I agree. I like Poe and Finn a lot, but I don't even remember Poe's name while watching the movies.  That's how overpacked the plots are.  Just give me three to five characters to care about, to invest in.  All of the additional characters just need, for the sake of the plot, to disappear into the background. 

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Re: Does Star Wars need more films like Solo?
« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2018, 03:09:49 PM »
If anything the box office of Solo was affected by the backlash from the fans towards the Last Jedi.

If anything I think you may be right but those "fans" are only hurting themselves; they're missing out on a great entry into the Star Wars franchise.

What do you expect when Kennedy herself stated that she isn't worried about pleasing the fans?

"I have a responsibility to the company that I work with. I donít feel that I have a responsibility to cater in some way. I would never just seize on saying, 'Well, this is a franchise thatís appealed primarily to men for many, many years, and therefore I owe men something."~Kathleen Kennedy

Lucas overly catered to children with the prequels so I'm all for not catering to anyone and just making flicks that fit with the Star Wars Universe created in the original trilogy.  I don't need the films to follow some predetermined path that was laid out in a novel, comic book or video game; which I think was the point she was trying to make.

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Re: Does Star Wars need more films like Solo?
« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2018, 08:27:18 AM »
Maybe. However if the current buzz about Kennedy is true... then she may be on her way out.  The rumor is that Bog Iger isn't happy with her or the overall direction of the franchise.
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Re: Does Star Wars need more films like Solo?
« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2018, 11:14:47 AM »
Maybe. However if the current buzz about Kennedy is true... then she may be on her way out.  The rumor is that Bog Iger isn't happy with her or the overall direction of the franchise.

It's a lose-lose either way.  She keeps going, she gets sh*t on; someone else takes over they get sh*t on.  It won't matter whether they/she "cater" to a certain percentage of fans or keep changing things up in the Star Wars Universe.  I still suspect that in a short time when Solo is released on dvd/Bluray many Last Jedi haters will be kicking themselves for not seeing Solo in theaters if that is indeed the reason why they skipped it and for the low box office.

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Re: Does Star Wars need more films like Solo?
« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2018, 11:55:47 AM »
Either way They have themselves to blame for hiring inexperienced directors and releasing questionable films like Solo. I mean who was asking for this movie? Who really wants a Boba Fett movie? Are the masses crying out for these? No, not so much.

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Re: Does Star Wars need more films like Solo?
« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2018, 12:38:20 PM »
As fans of a franchise they should all want to see more of their favorite characters and more of that universe...or I should say as open minded fans.  I didn't ask for the prequels but hell yeah I wanted to see them; unfortunately for me it was mixed results but I begrudge no one who enjoys them.  Same thing with the new trilogy and Star Wars Story films, never asked for them but will check all of them out; so far for me they are much more cohesive with the original trilogy and have been fun space adventures, they recall the same feeling I got from watching the original trilogy as a kid.
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Re: Does Star Wars need more films like Solo?
« Reply #22 on: June 29, 2018, 05:42:53 PM »
Either way They have themselves to blame for hiring inexperienced directors and releasing questionable films like Solo. I mean who was asking for this movie? Who really wants a Boba Fett movie? Are the masses crying out for these? No, not so much.
The only excuse for a Boba Fett movie is that he's a character who became a fan favorite basically because he looked cool, even though he never really did anything interesting or useful. And I'd say that's also a perfectly good reason why NOT to make a Boba Fett movie. Sure, it would finally give that character a reason for existing, but...if he's not all that interesting to start with, why give him a movie?
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Re: Does Star Wars need more films like Solo?
« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2018, 07:42:13 PM »
The only excuse for a Boba Fett movie is that he's a character...

...that sells a crap ton of merch.  He's actually gone on to have an interesting background/history in novels and comics but of course they may not use any of that; one thing they will have to use is his escape from Sarlacc's Pit which could be an interesting segment if done right.

I think an adaptation of the Tales of Bounty Hunters (1996) novel could be really cool; it gives background on each bounty hunter seen in Empire Strikes back and all the stories converge at that moment from the film and continue from there.  It could be a great anthology or tv show.

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Re: Does Star Wars need more films like Solo?
« Reply #24 on: June 29, 2018, 10:06:25 PM »
...that sells a crap ton of merch.  He's actually gone on to have an interesting background/history in novels and comics but of course they may not use any of that; one thing they will have to use is his escape from Sarlacc's Pit which could be an interesting segment if done right.

I think an adaptation of the Tales of Bounty Hunters (1996) novel could be really cool; it gives background on each bounty hunter seen in Empire Strikes back and all the stories converge at that moment from the film and continue from there.  It could be a great anthology or tv show.

They're definitely not using anything from the old novels and comics prior to Disney's takeover. They wiped the entire EU away and out of continuity, aside from borrowing the occasional popular character like Thrawn. As for escaping the Sarlacc Pit, there's no guaranteeing that such a film would take place after ROTJ. It could easily be another prequel/origin thingy.
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Re: Does Star Wars need more films like Solo?
« Reply #25 on: June 29, 2018, 10:30:05 PM »
They're definitely not using anything from the old novels and comics prior to Disney's takeover. They wiped the entire EU away and out of continuity....

True but a future script writer could still find insliration from a previous non-cannon reference; as you point out.

As for escaping the Sarlacc Pit, there's no guaranteeing that such a film would take place after ROTJ. It could easily be another prequel/origin thingy.

That may very well be the case; and I'm sure it will involve early Fett adventures...having Fett survive the Pit might be considered to much catering to a certain percentage of the fanbase by Kathleen Kennedy.

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Re: Does Star Wars need more films like Solo?
« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2018, 10:45:59 AM »
They're definitely not using anything from the old novels and comics prior to Disney's takeover. They wiped the entire EU away and out of continuity, aside from borrowing the occasional popular character like Thrawn. As for escaping the Sarlacc Pit, there's no guaranteeing that such a film would take place after ROTJ. It could easily be another prequel/origin thingy.

Why would Lucasfilm  want to make films based off the the EU? I mean why they want to take the franchise in creative directions? Forget that were getting Mos Eisley the movie. We also want to ensure diversity drives the bus at Lucasfilm...not creativity.
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Re: Does Star Wars need more films like Solo?
« Reply #27 on: July 03, 2018, 04:07:59 PM »
Maybe. However if the current buzz about Kennedy is true... then she may be on her way out.  The rumor is that Bog Iger isn't happy with her or the overall direction of the franchise.

I hear that the problem is no one wants the job. She has driven the ship so far onto the rocks, there aren't many brave enough to grab the wheel.
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Re: Does Star Wars need more films like Solo?
« Reply #28 on: July 04, 2018, 02:04:48 PM »
"Solo" is within my top 5 SW movies. 'Don't mind how many different SW movies are made, as there may be at least 1 or 2 cool scenes to enjoy, or another cool model ship to buy.

Films like "Solo" that don't mention use the force are fine with me. It was a nice break away from some of the films that were almost too similar.

'Older fans such as me that saw SW in high school have a completely different set of likes & dislikes about the more recent movies. There were quite a few movies after the first 3 movies that just had too many characters for me to bother to keep track of, so I just enjoyed the cool scenes and gave up on the character names.

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Re: Does Star Wars need more films like Solo?
« Reply #29 on: May 22, 2019, 09:49:26 AM »
Maybe another Ewok TV movie to complete that trilogy?  ;)