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Re: Yagher Kharis.
« Reply #45 on: March 21, 2018, 06:41:18 PM »
Nope.This is a hobby....not a business. The garage kit hobby is literally kept alive by a small handful of sculptors and producers. From what I understand, the sales of said kits basically have all these fellas making precious little bank, usually used to pay for the next sculpt and materials.  Sculptors are the only ones who actually get any real cash, and even then.....sometimes that isn't even true.

So, when someone else makes an inferior copy: then passes it off as an actual cast (rather than the pit hole filled, smaller, less detailed, and generally crappy recast it is), no one wins but the re-caster. Even the customer gets hosed because one day he sees the original version of the kit and realizes his is smaller, covered in pits, has less detail, and the deal he or she thought they were getting was not existent. They were actually being taken advantage of.

Meanwhile, actual kit sales perform sub-par, and the cycle of being able to have new kits sculpted is interrupted or ceased, and said "company" (a guy in his garage) simply declare the venture not worth their time and quit. As multiple kit makers have done. Re-casting is bottom feeding and destroys the hobby in the long run for a quick buck. The end.
Well said Anton Phibes!Garage kit makers do not make money.I know was one of them its not to get rich.If that was  case everyone would be doing it(lol).Now if you do a search on the said person on this board they recasted Vincent Prices life cast and memory serves me correct Vincent Prices daughter owns those life casts of her late Father.
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Re: Yagher Kharis.
« Reply #46 on: March 21, 2018, 07:34:18 PM »
Dan Fuller/dirtyhorse is a well-known recaster. He's on facebook and has been booted from pretty much every model board. He has ripped off friends of mine, yes there's evidence.
What he does now is posts in general monster collecting forums, offering easy-to-recast magnets and stuff. Newbies don't know any better, and they buy.
He also is known for getting painting commissions, then taking the kit that was sent to him and recasting it. He paints a recast, sends THAT ONE to the unknowing customer, and keeps the original for himself.
He joins facebook groups, and once in, he blocks the mods and admins so that they don't even know he's posting.

This was all pointed out a while ago here on this board, and the powers that be took no action, even though they knew what he was doing.

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Re: Yagher Kharis.
« Reply #47 on: March 22, 2018, 12:49:17 PM »
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Dan Fuller/dirtyhorse is a well-known recaster. He's on facebook and has been booted from pretty much every model board. He has ripped off friends of mine, yes there's evidence.
What he does now is posts in general monster collecting forums, offering easy-to-recast magnets and stuff. Newbies don't know any better, and they buy.
He also is known for getting painting commissions, then taking the kit that was sent to him and recasting it. He paints a recast, sends THAT ONE to the unknowing customer, and keeps the original for himself.
He joins facebook groups, and once in, he blocks the mods and admins so that they don't even know he's posting.

This was all pointed out a while ago here on this board, and the powers that be took no action, even though they knew what he was doing.


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Re: Yagher Kharis.
« Reply #48 on: March 22, 2018, 04:53:12 PM »
Is there actually any evidence of Dan recasting?, I noticed that the UMA was mentioned but not in a positive light.

When a product is being shown by a painter (Dirty Horse) which is being produced by someone else and the painter ( Dirty Horse) is telling the people who are complimenting his paint work that all they need to do is message him when they ask where can I get one? I would say pretty sure he is supplying the people who are asking where they can get it. Dirty Horse is not the one making the recasts,that is done by his friend Rick Muncy.  A shame really it has come to this.

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Re: Yagher Kharis.
« Reply #49 on: January 29, 2019, 12:37:20 PM »
Is there actually any evidence of Dan recasting?, I noticed that the UMA was mentioned but not in a positive light.

Who were the jerks who mentioned the UMA in an unfriendly light? Are any of them board members here?

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Re: Yagher Kharis.
« Reply #50 on: January 29, 2019, 12:53:09 PM »
Not trying to stir the pot with recasting and not...but...I find it a tad hypocritical if one is selling unlicensed Unimonsters and complaining.....just my two cents...not condoning recasting at all..just sayin'. I get that it is "stealing" by recasting but isn't it "stealing" if one is selling Universal Monsters without paying royalties?

I agree. Thieves stealing from thieves.

I've always maintained that the best and only way to sidestep the whole crooked business is to stick to buying only model kits made from styrene plastic. Not only are these made from the classic plastic and actually come in dozens of parts like a proper model kit, but my understanding is that the recasters and other pirates and thieves don't produce styrene plastic kits because the machinery necessary requires a far greater capital investment than the fast buck operators are willing to consider.

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Re: Yagher Kharis.
« Reply #51 on: January 29, 2019, 12:59:36 PM »
This was all pointed out a while ago here on this board, and the powers that be took no action, even though they knew what he was doing.


That's because the "powers that be" on this board have made it very clear from the very start that the recasting controversy was NOT welcome on this board because they'd seen it destroy far too many other discussion groups:

http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=6540.msg104598#msg104598

http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=12621.msg202915#msg202915

http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=16804.msg266782#msg266782

http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=16838.msg267303#msg267303

So take your feuds elsewhere. I've put a lot of effort into this forum over the years and I don't take kindly to those with a certain particular ax to grind trying to take this board down for their own personal reasons.

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Re: Yagher Kharis.
« Reply #52 on: November 30, 2019, 09:01:33 PM »
He joins facebook groups, and once in, he blocks the mods and admins so that they don't even know he's posting.

That's puzzling. I just say "No!" to Facebook so I'm not really familiar with its workings. But I thought that only the creator of Facebook groups could blackball other Facebook members from joining the Group.

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Re: Yagher Kharis.
« Reply #53 on: December 03, 2019, 09:02:42 PM »
They pay for some good sculpts to be sure....but the casting sometimes can be a tad rough. if not downright ghastly. I don't like messing with seam lines, air bubbles, pinholes and stuff.  I really just wanna wash it and paint it when I get a kit. That's why I do not buy many. Too much prep. If I am not mistaken they did the Vincent Price Shrunken Apple Head tribute. I bought one after seeing the finished example with the metal nameplate. The actual kit....does not come with a metal nameplate,lol. It had some EXTREMELY rough spots too....but I did a work around.

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Re: Yagher Kharis.
« Reply #54 on: December 03, 2019, 09:15:34 PM »
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Re: Yagher Kharis.
« Reply #55 on: December 09, 2019, 10:02:21 AM »
Evidently not.

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