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IT film
« on: August 30, 2017, 05:27:58 AM »
Went to a screening of IT last night.
Signed an NDA so can't review , but I can say I've read the book and seen the mini-series and am very pleased with this version.

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Re: IT film
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2017, 06:16:19 AM »
Saw it (IT). Was OK .  Liked most of the loser kid actors. Needed more monsters. Not a fan of Skarsgard, but he did a good job as the dancing clown. (really, anyone could of played the part) .  Maybe rate it a 3 1/2 out of 5 stars. Worth  a viewing of course.
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Re: IT film
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2017, 12:12:17 AM »
The movie is right now tracking to make over $80 million opening weekend and is being speculated to crack $400 million worldwide.

I wonder if this movie does break out the way it's being suggested it will, will it persuade Universal to ditch it's Marvel Regurgitationesque Dark Universe in favor for smaller budgeted R rated horror films. Unlikely, Universal seems dedicated to failing the Universal Monsters in every way possible!
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Re: IT film
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2017, 10:14:31 AM »
IT (2017) This version.....horrible. Not scary, and the narrative was bland.
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Re: IT film
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2017, 04:32:36 PM »
IT (2017) This version.....horrible. Not scary, and the narrative was bland.

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Just got back from seeing it. Yeah I was disappointed too I'm sad to say. Definitely wasn't scary, just very very loud! It did have some cool imagery and some of the creature designs were nice (I liked the Leper especially) And I liked the kids but ultimately I was a little let down. I also thought the bullies were underused, especially Patrick Hocksetter who was an interesting and creepy character in the book. If they had taken the time to build a little tension instead of jumping straight in with jump scare after jump scare after jump scare it could have been much better. There was also lots of daft 'as if you'd walk into that creepy house' moments. And why did Pennywise lead them to it's lair? It knew they were a threat so why lead them into a chase to where it lived? (In the book it retreats as they chase it deeper and deeper into the sewers but here it seemed to coax them instead) lt also didn't help that I had a complete pillock sat behind me making more noise than Max Cady in Cape Fear. Don't know why I bother sometimes haha!
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Re: IT film
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2017, 04:46:31 PM »

I forgot to mention Skarsgard - I thought he played Pennywise very well.
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Re: IT film
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2017, 10:50:04 PM »
Interesting - I loved IT. For me it ticked all the boxes and then some. I am a big, big fan of the original mini-series but for me, this outshone it in every aspect.

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Re: IT film
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2017, 12:23:36 AM »
Interesting - I loved IT. For me it ticked all the boxes and then some. I am a big, big fan of the original mini-series but for me, this outshone it in every aspect.

Don't get me wrong, there were parts I really liked, especially the kids and the 'Stand By Me' feel to the move, I just think it tried to shock too often rather than scare. And they overdid it with the clown. He seemed to appear every other scene and always ended up running screaming at the camera in extreme close-up, which was effective at first but quickly became tiresome. I'm not usually a nitpicker but as a massive fan of the book I was hoping (probably unfairly) for something equally as creepy and unsettling. I will re-watch it alone at home and see if I like it better on a second viewing.

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One other thing....what was the point of setting it in the 1980s? I've heard people say "oh it's necessary to set it closer to modern times" and I personaly didnt have a problem with it. But in the novel we all know that Pennywise manifests as the Mummy, the Creature, even Jaws, as well as countless other monsters. So it was fair to assume that in this version it would appear as some of the movie monsters from the 80s. But there was none of that. In fact the only thing that gave it the 80s vibe was a few strategically placed posters on Bill's wall and Henry Bower's mullet. Derry itself looked more like a town from the 50s anyway so why bother setting it in the 80s? It couldn't have been to appease today's teen horror fans as they weren't around in the 80s anyway! If the point was so that the sequel could be set in the present then what is the point of that? So the grown up losers can take a selfie with Pennywise? It seemed a bit of an odd choice to me.
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Re: IT film
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2017, 09:32:53 AM »
I liked It as well, but I felt they wasted their R rating on having kids dropping the F bomb all the time. With all the graphic violence in the novel, there should have been plenty on the screen. Instead everything was left to the imagination.

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Re: IT film
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2017, 03:24:43 PM »
I liked It as well, but I felt they wasted their R rating on having kids dropping the F bomb all the time. With all the graphic violence in the novel, there should have been plenty on the screen. Instead everything was left to the imagination.
I'm a little torn over wether I liked it or not now, which sounds weird but after thinking about the movie for a few days there's a lot of it I did like, it just had issues that I've already prattled on about, but I'm glad it has been so successful and so many people have enjoyed it. I think having just finished re-reading the book a month or so back it's hard to look at it objectively. The novel is awesome!
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Re: IT film
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2017, 11:47:15 PM »
One other thing....what was the point of setting it in the 1980s?
I think it's because there's a general nostalgia for the 1980s right now, especially when it comes to people who were kids at the time. Figure the original novel came out in 1986, and the mini-series was from 1990. By shifting the setting of the kid section to be contemporary with that period, it has the nostalgia factor going for it to appeal to adults today who were kids around the time IT first became a big cultural thing, when Stephen King was in his prime.

We can surely debate about how effectively the setting was utilized, and there may be some valid criticism there, but the intent is fairly clear to me. The book was nostalgic for adults reading it when it came out, relating to the passage of time between the 50s and the 80s. These new films, when complete, will provide a similar function today for the adults who relate to the passage of time between the 80s and present day.

As for the lack of 80s monsters, I understand why they were left out, but I would have liked to see Pennywise take their form as well. They actually considered having him turn into Freddy Krueger at one point, which would have been easy to do since the film's set up at New Line, otherwise known as the house Freddy built. In fact now that New Line is having such a successful moment with horror, what with the Conjuring series--excuse me, the Conjuring UNIVERSE--and now IT, there's some curiosity about the possibility of Freddy making a comeback. So far nothing official, but you can bet conversations are going to be had now that IT is so damn successful. Plus, before long WB/New Line will be getting the Friday the 13th rights back, so we might get another Jason flick soon as well. But all that's discussion for another thread.
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Re: IT film
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2017, 12:54:48 AM »
I see your point BBW, it just didn't give me that 80s nostalgia feeling, not as effectively as Stranger Things anyway. (I keep hearing Stranger Things being credited for starting the whole Amblin ET/Goonies nostalgia thing but Super 8 but maybe that should go to Super 8?) But that's just me. When the book was released in the 80s, I doubt there was many kids who read the novel. (Having said that I read it when I was 10 in 1990!) Regarding any proposed Freddy/Jason re-boots, I think they're pretty much inevitable. They will keep returning every 10 years or so to suck away a piece of our soul....just like a certain being from the macroverse.
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Re: IT film
« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2017, 01:58:03 AM »


As for the lack of 80s monsters, I understand why they were left out, but I would have liked to see Pennywise take their form as well.
In the IT trailer there is a shot of Pennywise's clawed hand moving towards the kids. I was hoping his claws were going to elongate like Freddy's. I think they could easily have done it. Perhaps not exact likenesses of the characters but a merging of Pennywise and whichever character it was imitating.
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Re: IT film
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2017, 02:24:21 PM »
I just saw It and liked it.  I thought they did a great job developing the characters and making me care about them.  Decent job setting up the sequel as well.

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I didn't understand why toward the end they had It disguised as Georgie with his arm missing ... his brother would not have known that his arm was missing, yet he did not react to it at all -- didn't even mention it even if he knew the whole time that it was not his brother.
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Re: IT film
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2017, 03:32:11 PM »
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I didn't understand why toward the end they had It disguised as Georgie with his arm missing ... his brother would not have known that his arm was missing, yet he did not react to it at all -- didn't even mention it even if he knew the whole time that it was not his brother.
I think it was to build tension and suspicion in the audience. If Pennywise had disguised himself as Georgie with his arm fully intact, the audience would know right away that it was Pennywise. Also I THINK, if I remember right, this scene took place after Bev was rescued, introducing the idea that Pennywise's floating victims could possibly be saved after all. This, of course, relies on the notion that the audience would be dumb enough to ever think for a second that could possibly be Georgie, whether Bev was saved or not.
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