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Re: Well it's official...no new Mezco One:12 monsters.
« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2017, 09:51:38 PM »
I have yet to see Mezco Toy Guy or any of the others who area affiliated with Mezco confirm this. Until I do, I shall try to remain hopeful. (I know, I know....  http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=30131.0 )
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Re: Well it's official...no new Mezco One:12 monsters.
« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2017, 02:17:01 AM »
I didn't want to get sucked into another line of collectibles so passed on this one. However, seeing as how the Wolf Man is my favorite of the classics, I probably would have picked one up -- so I do hope this is just a rumor at this time.

Another factor for me was the price: I just don't see these as $70 figures. Now that the Franks are falling in price, however, I might actually snag one.

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Re: Well it's official...no new Mezco One:12 monsters.
« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2017, 03:57:28 AM »
...I just don't see these as $70 figures. Now that the Franks are falling in price, however, I might actually snag one.

I feel the same way.  I just bought a B&W version at $50 with shipping included.  It was the very most I would have been willing to pay.  (It's a 6 in. dolly, for Pete's sake!)

I'm not even tempted to double down and get a color figure - not worth it to me.
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Re: Well it's official...no new Mezco One:12 monsters.
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2017, 11:10:43 AM »
A sad and bleak future for Universal Monster fanatics and collectors. Plus, judging by FB posts, the demographic for Universal Monster fan pages are a 35-65 age-group.
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Re: Well it's official...no new Mezco One:12 monsters.
« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2017, 01:37:10 PM »
A sad and bleak future for Universal Monster fanatics and collectors. Plus, judging by FB posts, the demographic for Universal Monster fan pages are a 35-65 age-group.

Yes, I was thinking from late 30's to early 60's was the demographic. However, someone on this site pointed out that at the monster conventions, there are a good amount of younger people into the Universal Monsters and wearing their merchandise.

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Re: Well it's official...no new Mezco One:12 monsters.
« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2017, 02:51:29 PM »
The sheer number of monster kids out there that still love the classic monsters continue to shrink.  Let's face it, only the Baby Boomers and Gen Xers are the ones got to experience the monster craze of the 50's, 60's and 70's, and early 80's, so it makes complete sense that the newer generations will never understand the passion we have for our beloved monsters.  We are aging, and frankly, many of us can no longer afford to spend the kind of money required for the limited amount of items that do come out these days.  In addition, I put a lot of the blame on Universal's inability to capitalize and grow their monster brand over the years.  Disney, Marvel & DC, Star Wars, Star Trek...all properties that have been around for decades and have continued to evolve with the times and grow their brands, while we can't even get a damn licensed lunch box out of Universal!

I appreciate mainstream companies like Mezco and Sideshow still making attempts to satisfy the classic monster fan, but I completely understand that it will always boil down to their bottomline; not enough demand, then no reason to supply.  This is why I believe the only future us toy collectors have in getting the figures we want and desire will come from the likes of small overseas companies like Distinctive Dummies; so support them whenever you can! 

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Re: Well it's official...no new Mezco One:12 monsters.
« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2017, 03:04:20 PM »
The sheer number of monster kids out there that still love the classic monsters continue to shrink.  Let's face it, only the Baby Boomers and Gen Xers are the ones got to experience the monster craze of the 50's, 60's and 70's, and early 80's, so it makes complete sense that the newer generations will never understand the passion we have for our beloved monsters.  We are aging, and frankly, many of us can no longer afford to spend the kind of money required for the limited amount of items that do come out these days.  In addition, I put a lot of the blame on Universal's inability to capitalize and grow their monster brand over the years.  Disney, Marvel & DC, Star Wars, Star Trek...all properties that have been around for decades and have continued to evolve with the times and grow their brands, while we can't even get a damn licensed lunch box out of Universal!

I appreciate mainstream companies like Mezco and Sideshow still making attempts to satisfy the classic monster fan, but I completely understand that it will always boil down to their bottomline; not enough demand, then no reason to supply.  This is why I believe the only future us toy collectors have in getting the figures we want and desire will come from the likes of small overseas companies like Distinctive Dummies; so support them whenever you can!

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Re: Well it's official...no new Mezco One:12 monsters.
« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2017, 03:05:11 PM »
The sheer number of monster kids out there that still love the classic monsters continue to shrink.  Let's face it, only the Baby Boomers and Gen Xers are the ones got to experience the monster craze of the 50's, 60's and 70's, and early 80's, so it makes complete sense that the newer generations will never understand the passion we have for our beloved monsters.  We are aging, and frankly, many of us can no longer afford to spend the kind of money required for the limited amount of items that do come out these days.  In addition, I put a lot of the blame on Universal's inability to capitalize and grow their monster brand over the years.  Disney, Marvel & DC, Star Wars, Star Trek...all properties that have been around for decades and have continued to evolve with the times and grow their brands, while we can't even get a damn licensed lunch box out of Universal!

I appreciate mainstream companies like Mezco and Sideshow still making attempts to satisfy the classic monster fan, but I completely understand that it will always boil down to their bottomline; not enough demand, then no reason to supply.  This is why I believe the only future us toy collectors have in getting the figures we want and desire will come from the likes of small overseas companies like Distinctive Dummies; so support them whenever you can!

Well, said. Ironically, Universal doesn't capitalize on making more monster figures, yet, they don't seem to want anyone else doing it. We can't get an accurate mass produced Glenn Strange Frankenstein figure. However, if someone tried to make one and produce it, they would probably be at their door with a cease and desist order.

Hammer Films should be happy when anyone wants to take up the task of making figures based on their versions. Their versions are more obscure and out of the spot light even more than Universal's.

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Re: Well it's official...no new Mezco One:12 monsters.
« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2017, 03:14:45 PM »
...I put a lot of the blame on Universal's inability to capitalize and grow their monster brand over the years.  Disney, Marvel & DC, Star Wars, Star Trek...all properties that have been around for decades and have continued to evolve with the times and grow their brands, while we can't even get a damn licensed lunch box out of Universal!... 

I get that the Classic Monsters no longer appeal to the majority of the youngest horror fans of today.  I also get that Universal does a lousy job of trying to morph the older monsters to fit the latest special effects laden films.

I would be happy if Universal would concentrate on tying the traditional monsters to Halloween.  We still put up images of sheet-wearing ghosts, witches and skeletons and they are not movie staples.  Why can't Universal invest in pushing the Classic Monsters in their annual Halloween celebrations and try to build a fan base there?

At least we would get increased interest during month of Halloween each year.  It would give toy/decoration/costume manufacturers something to shoot for during the first (and best) holiday of the "holiday season".

Disney would think of something.  Hell, Disney would be indoctrinating today's tots with a Saturday morning TV cartoon series - and adding a Monster Land area around the Haunted Mansion.  There would be no shortage of product.

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Re: Well it's official...no new Mezco One:12 monsters.
« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2017, 03:38:38 PM »
The Happy Baboons at Universal truly seem clueless. If I were in charge at universal, here is what i would do. I would get a brain trust, a think tank of minds who truly appreciate the monsters. Rick Baker could easily lead it. Get Mike Hill on board. Historians who enjoy the films, etc.

Start a direct to video animated series of films to be released each Halloween. Have a prolific modern horror writer, who is subject to the brain trust, write the direct to video specials. Play it up with commercials and on-line advertising. Get a fast food chain involved with the Halloween releases of each video. Does any of this sound remotely familiar?

Universal did some of this in the 90's. They released cups, hologram cards, and personal pizzas with great graphics on the box at Pizza hut. Had a sticker and card deal with Doritos and Pepsi, The Burger King and Jack in the box fast food premiums, the Halloween release of kiddie films like Alvin and The Chipmunks meet Wolfman and Frankenstein, etc,etc,etc.

If it worked then, do it again....only change the direction. Make the films Monster Movies...using actor likenesses (since the now own Karloff, they could put him in everything,lol.)

It could be done if they were interested. But apparently they arent.

Another thing they could do is lower the price for the licensing of the characters.

As crappy as they were....the Imperial figures were someone's first monster toys. The license couldn't have been a premium then to make such cheap o toys. They need to think quantity. Quantity equates to exposure. Exposure is what they need. The exposure plays a huge role. I sincerely doubt the folks making Star Wars candy for sale at the Dollar General are paying blue million to put a picture of BB-8 on their wrapper. Universal Monsters need more exposure.

Godzilla has maintained a level of exposure since day 1 more or less. he has survived the Matthew Broderick thing, horrible cartoons and comics, and even Charles Barclay. Yet folks still love Godzilla. Universal Monsters need the right kind of exposure because they havent done well with the poorly executed kind.
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Re: Well it's official...no new Mezco One:12 monsters.
« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2017, 03:50:51 PM »
...Another thing they could do is lower the price for the licensing of the characters. ... 

With the provision that the manufacturers do reasonable promotion of their products.

Too often, what does come out is released into a vacuum with no fanfare whatever.  Things come and go before I am even aware that they were made.  Then I have to buy them at a premium off eBay.

If universal would do animated series or Halloween specials, the toy/game makers would have a place to buy advertising.  market to the little ones who are not already prejudiced against the "old-timey" monsters.  Let them make our monsters their own.

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Re: Well it's official...no new Mezco One:12 monsters.
« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2017, 04:39:28 PM »
The Happy Baboons at Universal truly seem clueless. If I were in charge at universal, here is what i would do. I would get a brain trust, a think tank of minds who truly appreciate the monsters. Rick Baker could easily lead it. Get Mike Hill on board. Historians who enjoy the films, etc.

Start a direct to video animated series of films to be released each Halloween. Have a prolific modern horror writer, who is subject to the brain trust, write the direct to video specials. Play it up with commercials and on-line advertising. Get a fast food chain involved with the Halloween releases of each video. Does any of this sound remotely familiar?

Universal did some of this in the 90's. They released cups, hologram cards, and personal pizzas with great graphics on the box at Pizza hut. Had a sticker and card deal with Doritos and Pepsi, The Burger King and Jack in the box fast food premiums, the Halloween release of kiddie films like Alvin and The Chipmunks meet Wolfman and Frankenstein, etc,etc,etc.

If it worked then, do it again....only change the direction. Make the films Monster Movies...using actor likenesses (since the now own Karloff, they could put him in everything,lol.)

It could be done if they were interested. But apparently they arent.

Another thing they could do is lower the price for the licensing of the characters.

As crappy as they were....the Imperial figures were someone's first monster toys. The license couldn't have been a premium then to make such cheap o toys. They need to think quantity. Quantity equates to exposure. Exposure is what they need. The exposure plays a huge role. I sincerely doubt the folks making Star Wars candy for sale at the Dollar General are paying blue million to put a picture of BB-8 on their wrapper. Universal Monsters need more exposure.

Godzilla has maintained a level of exposure since day 1 more or less. he has survived the Matthew Broderick thing, horrible cartoons and comics, and even Charles Barclay. Yet folks still love Godzilla. Universal Monsters need the right kind of exposure because they havent done well with the poorly executed kind.

This all sounds great and logical. I think the same way about having new Universal Monster movies where the monsters actually resemble how they looked when Karloff, Lugosi and Chaney/Chaney Jr played them. I would definitely go to the theater to watch a film if the preview had a Karloff Looking Frankenstein in it. Image this.. You're watching tv.. A commercial comes on. There is a quick, full screen shot where the light shines on a Karloff like, Frankenstein Face. The caption reads.. In theaters on such and such a date. I would be there.

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Re: Well it's official...no new Mezco One:12 monsters.
« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2017, 04:40:30 PM »

Another thing they could do is lower the price for the licensing of the characters.

As crappy as they were....the Imperial figures were someone's first monster toys. The license couldn't have been a premium then to make such cheap o toys. They need to think quantity. Quantity equates to exposure. Exposure is what they need. The exposure plays a huge role. I sincerely doubt the folks making Star Wars candy for sale at the Dollar General are paying blue million to put a picture of BB-8 on their wrapper. Universal Monsters need more exposure.


This is right on (as are the past several posts on the topic). I've been telling people this for years. Sadly, it's unfortunate that Disney didn't in some alternate universe produce the Universal Monsters because I guarantee you they would be at least as relevant as Marvel Superheroes. Disney has somehow made Mickey Mouse relevant since 1928. Kids watch Mickey Mouse Clubhouse on TV everyday. Kids go to Disneyland and want to see Mickey. Consider this: there is nothing mildly interesting about Mickey Mouse. Nothing! And I love me some Disneyland.

If Disney can keep a boring, squeaky mouse relevant since Dracula was but a twinkle in Tod Browning's eye then I can't imagine what they could have done with Frankenstein. Frankly, the monsters are popular in spite of Universal. Ask any kid what Frankenstein looks like and he is going to describe Boris Karloff. Ask any kid about Dracula and he is going to describe something that looks like Bela Lugosi in a cape. Same with the Wolfman and the Mummy. Yet they have never heard the term Universal Monsters and have no clue there were ever movies.

My only exposure to the Universal Monsters until I was about 11 were my older brothers Remco Mini Monsters, my Imperial 8" monsters and those Crestwood House orange books that were in the school library. Based on that alone I loved the Universal Monsters. Then I actually got to see the movies in the midst of that 90's revival in monster stuff.

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Re: Well it's official...no new Mezco One:12 monsters.
« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2017, 09:38:13 PM »
Universal knew what it was doing in the '90s.  That was the decade I was exposed to the Monsters as a young Millennial.  I loved the Universal Monsters.  I collected the Pogs, got the Milky Ways, got the Pepsi, and the stamps.  I ate it up.  The Universal Monsters owned Halloween.  The Pepsi-Mars cross promotions did wonders for exposure. When Universal stopped doing this the early 2000s, they virtually killed the Monsters.   If Universal cared in the least about making money off of the Monsters, they would revisit this partnership.  Partner with Coke, Hershey's, anybody who can actually get these characters out there. 

The problem with the new Mummy was that Universal didn't even bother to get toys made.  Spider Man, Wonder Woman, etc. all have huge displays in TRU.  Where is the one for the Mummy?  Why should anyone care about a movie if there aren't products to promote it?  They did far better with Van Helsing.  I don't get what they are doing...  I don't think they do either.

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« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2017, 10:33:19 PM »
Sideshow era is what kept Universal Monsters significant from 1998-? (2008?).

DST gave us some decent figures, but they never generated as much fanfare among collectors as Sideshow did. They did get Unis on pegs at TRU every Halloween though.  Too bad there were no tie in promotions.
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