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Re: Frankenstein Life Size - Original from 1935
« Reply #30 on: March 07, 2013, 03:46:13 AM »
I knew I saw this bust before!
Just found it online...

Lee Lambert posted pics of it on Flikr from Maskfest 2 ( May, 2010.)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/thehma/4596108326/#in/photostream

Lee....do you remember seeing a name to this sculpt? ???

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Re: Frankenstein Life Size - Original from 1935
« Reply #31 on: March 08, 2013, 06:54:27 AM »
It's a cool, awesome piece, but I'm certain FAR beyond my financial capabilities.  Whether CINEart or not, original head- or not- I am digging the piece. But I'm poor folks and can't buy it, so my opinion here is a about useless.
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Re: Frankenstein Life Size - Original from 1935
« Reply #32 on: March 08, 2013, 07:10:38 AM »
I knew I saw this bust before!
Just found it online...

Lee Lambert posted pics of it on Flikr from Maskfest 2 ( May, 2010.)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/thehma/4596108326/#in/photostream

Lee....do you remember seeing a name to this sculpt? ???



Good eye.  You nailed it!

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Re: Frankenstein Life Size - Original from 1935
« Reply #33 on: March 09, 2013, 12:59:46 PM »
If only it was not missing a finger. That is all I would see if I had it in my collection.

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Re: Frankenstein Life Size - Original from 1935
« Reply #34 on: March 09, 2013, 02:28:37 PM »
Did anyone else receive a spam PM from this guy trying to sell this?  I've never posted on this thread before and never expressed any interest in this item but I've received 2 spam PMs (one here and one on another blog) trying to sell this item to me.

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Re: Frankenstein Life Size - Original from 1935
« Reply #35 on: March 09, 2013, 05:30:43 PM »
Did anyone else receive a spam PM from this guy trying to sell this?  I've never posted on this thread before and never expressed any interest in this item but I've received 2 spam PMs (one here and one on another blog) trying to sell this item to me.

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Not me.  I first saw the item on eBay and sent him an e-mail about his auction not having any pictures.  Since then we exchanged e-mails a few times, but he did not seem at all pushy, just a little anxious about hoping for a sale - like anyone with a big item might be.

Mybe it is a reaction to the name "propman".  Sounds like someone who might be interested.


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Re: Frankenstein Life Size - Original from 1935
« Reply #36 on: March 10, 2013, 02:55:21 AM »
Did anyone else receive a spam PM from this guy trying to sell this?  I've never posted on this thread before and never expressed any interest in this item but I've received 2 spam PMs (one here and one on another blog) trying to sell this item to me.

"D"

I too have rec'd emails, however I do not believe he is a scammer at all...
Although it seems he is waaaaaaay off on his valuation!
He was asking $14,000??? He also told me he received a few offers for
$5,000 and $6,000!!!! ???? !!
I told him if he was offered that kind of money he should JUMP ON IT!!!

It's my opinion that the body "might" be worth $500...
Even that , (to me) is high...Cineart, or  not!

The body is far too feeble looking and it has such skinny legs, there is no way
it is even close to screen accurate (as mentioned!)
Not trying to anger any diehard Cineart fans, but just keeping it real.

The head is worth maybe $600-700 tops! (again, just my opinion!)
We don't know the sculptor, or anything else about it.
For all we know, that silicone is a ticking timebomb! :o

He wants to sell this, but also wants to know it's history :)
can't blame him!

All in all, I figure it's worth a grand at most!
 
Anyone else care to take a stab at it's value?  :-\

Jeff
« Last Edit: March 10, 2013, 03:13:45 AM by FRANKEinstein »

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Re: Frankenstein Life Size - Original from 1935
« Reply #37 on: March 10, 2013, 10:30:46 AM »
With the missing finger, I would say $1000 as well. If he still has the finger, it could be worth even more.

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Re: Frankenstein Life Size - Original from 1935
« Reply #38 on: March 10, 2013, 11:29:42 AM »
 I just want to make sure that in no way I was calling him a scammer!!! I just felt that it was wrong for someone to just ramdomly send out PMs to people who have expressed no interest in their item to try to push a sale. I make and paint things all the time and never do I just PM someone who hasn't contacted me first. I just found it odd and kind of like getting spam in my email box. Now trying to start anything or to say if he's a good guy or bad guy just questioning his approach. I understand where you could said well since your user name is propman..... but that is because I build props. I don't feel it's right that just because someone's user name is anything that would give me the right to just PM them to push a sale. Just my opinion.

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Re: Frankenstein Life Size - Original from 1935
« Reply #39 on: March 10, 2013, 04:01:36 PM »

...The body is far too feeble looking and it has such skinny legs, there is no way
it is even close to screen accurate (as mentioned!)
Not trying to anger any diehard Cineart fans, but just keeping it real....
 


I am a huge CineArt fan, but I always thought they missed the boat with their full figure Frankenstein.

Karloff was painfully thin when he made "Frankenstein" in 1931 - but the fully padded (supposedly 7 ft. tall?) movie character really needs to be unnaturally massive and imposing.

As for price...

This semi-posable, 7 ft tall figure based around a Mike Hill bust got no bids at $8,500.00:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Frankenstein-Life-Size-/200900710673?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D200900710673%26_rdc%3D1&nma=true&si=J4PlYnmQhHKSmyyxPRgTuxBizks%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557



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Re: Frankenstein Life Size - Original from 1935
« Reply #40 on: March 10, 2013, 04:27:51 PM »
Karloff was a little over 6 ft in full costume, according to most reports, whereas the representation of the character was supposed to be 7ft-8ft tall.

As we all know, this illusion was achieved with the lifted boots, headpiece and padding on Karloff's entire body, additionally many scenes were filmed from a lower angle to create the illusion of great height.

By the time of 'Bride' and then later 'Son', establishing the creatures size lost it's relevancy and Karloff appears much smaller in many scenes. The notable exception is his first appearance in Bride, when he climbs out of the burning mill and bumps into Una O'Connor - 'Minnie's' diminutive height helps to re-establish the creature's great size, but no notable further attempts are made to conceal Karloff's actual size in full costume:



In 'Son', it's quite amusing when Wolf announces his discovery of the reason for the creatures'great size', when in their side-by-side scenes Karloff is only fractionally taller than Rathbone:



By the time we got to Glenn Strange of course, the creature really WAS huge. But 'great size' or not, Karloff is my favourite Creature by a country mile.

Anyway, my point is when we are representing Karlof's creature in our models, lifesize pieces and so on, a 7 or 8ft display just isn't correct. Story correct, yes, but not factually correct.

I'm not defending the cineart piece particularly either - just pointing out that when we talk about screen-accurate, there is a very distict difference between what we percieve as being correct and what Karloff actually looked like in person, on set.


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Re: Frankenstein Life Size - Original from 1935
« Reply #41 on: March 10, 2013, 04:36:34 PM »

When creating a display piece, I think I would want to preserve the screen illusion created by low camera angles and the risers that smaller actors would often be placed on when appearing next to taller actors.

Since a monsterkid's monster room is viewed in real life and not through the camera, it seems natural that the display figure be built to reflect the implied screen presence, and not the actor's actual size.

Hence, I would opt for the 7 ft. tall figure over the more accurate Karloff stature.

Just my personal preference.

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Re: Frankenstein Life Size - Original from 1935
« Reply #42 on: March 10, 2013, 05:40:16 PM »
I agree that with these life size pieces his height differs from time to time,

however, (more importantly) I was speaking of the sticks for legs and
no arse, as his pants are hanging like drapes!

6ft, 7ft, or 8ft tall, this boy needs to eat a STEAK!  :P

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Re: Frankenstein Life Size - Original from 1935
« Reply #43 on: March 11, 2013, 05:27:27 AM »
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This semi-posable, 7 ft tall figure based around a Mike Hill bust got no bids at $8,500.00:...



Plus, that one was featured on SHIPPING WARS! With a provenance like that...

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Re: Frankenstein Life Size - Original from 1935
« Reply #44 on: March 11, 2013, 05:27:49 PM »

I was first quoted $47,000, so at least the price came down a little.  ???