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Do You Believe in Ghosts?
« on: September 23, 2012, 04:30:00 PM »
Do you believe in ghosts? If you do, have you ever seen one? Have you ever gone ghost hunting?

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Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2012, 05:10:49 PM »
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Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2012, 05:14:57 PM »
I never like to say anything about the subject (even though my grandson has asked me before), because I don't really believe in ghosts and I don't want to close off any possibilities. But if there are ghosts, they have not chosen to reveal themselves to me because I am not a very calm or strong person.....and I would most likely freak out! But I would love to hear some real stories from people who have seen them. No one in my family has ever discussed their beliefs, and I don't watch ghost hunting shows.

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Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2012, 05:30:12 PM »
This is a complicated question.  Yes, I believe that when people say they see something and call it a ghost, they are in fact seeing something.  I believe they are seeing something real, and not just something in their imagination. 

But as to what that something is?  I don't think any analysis has been done that answers that question.

For example, here's what I think:  Maybe you hear the footsteps of someone with big shoes in your house when you know no one else is there.  Maybe someone with big shoes used to live in your house.  But that doesn't necessarily mean that the sounds you hear are that person's disembodied spirit.  Nor does it mean that spirits exist.  You are experiencing something unmistakably odd; but until more sophisticated tools are developed to analyze these events, they remain phenomena.

I do think, though, that whatever these things are, when we get a handle on exactly what we're looking at, it's gonna be very surprising and it will be a quantum leap in our understanding of the universe.
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Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2012, 06:03:27 PM »
Do you believe in ghosts? If you do, have you ever seen one? Have you ever gone ghost hunting?


I would love to believe in ghosts. I am not a really big fan of "ghost hunting" with electronic gadgets that prove the existence of anything other than ghosts. Look this house is haunted by a Electro Magnetic Field (the ghost is showing us magnetic north oh never mind it is just my cellphone) , garbled noise on a tape recorder that sorta sounds like a person talking "Did the ghost just say Cheetos? Fritos? Burritos? Well whatever it was it must be hungry" and dust particles on camera lenses. Was that scratching behind the wall a coded message or a mouse? Whooo a cold spot, must be a recently departed wind draft. I think most ghost hunters appear silly bumping around in the dark trying to prove something with their infrared cameras trying not to look scared. "What was that!? Did you just hear that!?"

Don't get me wrong I love ghosts. I would love for there to be scientific proof of spirits, phantasms, poltergeists, spooks, specters, etc. My favorite books are Ghost Stories. My user name on this forum is obvious. I do get a spooky vibe with some purportedly real ghost photos but most are clearly fakes or can be explained with pareidolia.

I love creepy atmospheres and personally know people who swear they have seen the spirits of the dead. I never have but the next time you see one tell them I am dying to meet them! I take a Harry Houdini approach to it with a heavy dose of skepticism but wanting to find real proof and exposing charlatans.

A few of my favorite ghost stories are:

A Christmas Carol - Charles Dickens
The Signalman - Charles Dickens
The Wendigo - Algernon Blackwood
The Empty House - Algernon Blackwood
The Body-snatcher - Robert Louis Stevenson
The Monkey's Paw - W.W. Jacobs
The Tell-Tale Heart - Edgar Allen Poe
The Mask of the Red Death - Edgar Allen Poe
The Legend of Sleepy Hollow - Washington Irving
Smee - Alfred McLellan Burrage


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Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2012, 06:31:20 PM »
For a folklore assignment I went to all of the purportedly haunted locations on campus and collected their legends, my only ghost hunting experience.



There are many ghost stories surrounding cemeteries and a good many deal with haunted headstones. While in college we would pilgrimage to the cemetery in the center of campus jumping the wrought iron fence and creep into the shadows under the trees and slip between headstones as we meandered through graves on our way to the weeping woman. Keeping a wary eye out for the random police patrol cruiser spot light. Getting to the base of the statue we would tell the story of an immigrant family losing their children to sickness and the grief stricken mother never getting past it, wasting away at the graveside weeping until she joined her children in death. Her distraught husband commissioned the statue of a bereaved woman holding a wreath. Legend says that the monument weeps at midnight for her children. Some frat house years ago painted luminescent paint on the tear tracks. As you tell the story you shine your light on the face of the woman and when you finish the light goes off leaving glowing tear tracks down the bluish gray face of the statute making a pretty creepy cool effect. Here the story:



The Weeping Woman of Logan Cemetery
Legend has it that the Cronquist family were early settlers in Cache Valley from Europe. In the late 1800s life was hard. Out of her six children, five died at an early age from scarlet fever. When a few years later her last child died from a case of pneumonia the mother was inconsolable in her grief and anguish having lost all her children.
She spent her remaining days grieving at the cemetery with her husband forced to bring her meals and to take her home at night, as she would not leave her children’s graves during the day. Her health quickly faded and the once cheerful woman became a ghost of a person wailing for hours. She eventually died and as a memorial her husband sent an order to the old country to make a statue in her likeness grieving, to be sent back to Logan and placed were she could always watch over her children’s grave sites. The commissioned statue arrived and was placed near her children in the middle of the Logan Cemetery.
On a moonless night they say you can see glowing tears coursing down her cheeks, and if you circle the marker three times saying weep woman weep then lighting three matches, you will hear her ghostly cries.

2. The Old Tunnel System Underneath Campus



 Underneath the campus at Utah State University is a labyrinth of tunnels used to connect building to building for coal produced steam power. The old coal burning steam plant is no longer in use with a cleaner heating facility now in place. There are even new stretches of tunnel that have been built, but many of the old sections of tunnel remain. Some of the older sections have been sealed off ending in dead ends that no longer reach their destinations.
It has long been customary as a test of braveness of the students to explore the catacomb-like tunnels after dark. Some say that the only real dangers are being caught by the campus police and charged with criminal trespassing or having a steam pipe burst and to be scalded to death. While others claim there are other more supernatural hidden dangers lurking beneath the campus and while exploring have heard unexplainable noises and seen unaccountable sights. People swear they have heard a man laughing, a child crying, and a noise like the growling of a beast. Some claim to have seen lights ahead of them that mysteriously disappear. While I was down there I located a WWII fall out shelter with cots, a ham radio, rotting food supplies, blankets, etc.

3. The Old Main Bell Tower




In the Old Main bell tower the original bell is missing. It has been moved and is hanging outside the Dee Glen Spectrum on the North side. Where it used to reside in the tower is a system of electronic chimes, bells, and speakers. There are even speakers on various other buildings as well. These ring out every hour and half hour marking time audibly on the USU campus. There is also a organ that can be played manually or automatically that is used for playing the commencement music as the graduates march from Old Main down Champ Drive to the Spectrum for the graduation ceremonies.
Legend has it that once a student was selected to play the organ on graduation day because of her talent. The night before she had been driving back to Logan through Sardine Canyon. She fell asleep at the wheel and drifted into oncoming traffic colliding with a large truck head on. She was pronounced dead at the scene. The electric organ was placed up in the tower the following year to play automatically for graduation from then on negating the need to find someone to play every year. Some say on graduation night when the “A” atop the tower is turned blue for the graduates, if one listens very closely at midnight, you can just make out the sound of spectral commencement music being played. As far as I know no one has dared investigate the source of the music while it is playing.

4. The Cadaver Lab




Used by aspiring medical and anatomy students the cadaver lab plays a valuable role in teaching. Bodies that are donated to science arrive periodically to be examined. Not for the faint of heart in the daytime, the lab is especially spooky at night. After the building is locked up spirits are said to roam the halls exploring the new home of their corpses. The dead have willingly (in most cases) donated their bodies to be cut up and examined. But if you are unwise enough to disturb their rest at night may heaven help you.

5. The Organ Loft of Kent Concert Hall



On certain nights after a performance and all have returned home it is rumored that haunting melodies can be heard from the darkened hall coming from the organ loft. As one investigates the music upon entrance into the loft the music abruptly ceases. From below it can certainly be heard emanating from the brass pipes but the keys on the organ are never seen to move.

6. The Fife Folklore Collection at the Merrill Library



Besides being chalk full of ghost stories and other legends and customs, supposedly amidst the dusty tomes and bound books of previous times there is said to roam several spirits searching for their life stories at night among the stacks. If you visit the Folklore collection and the door that leads to a ramp is opened you can hear a wailing noise from the wind coming out of the lower regions. It is as if the building itself is breathing.

7. The Hatch Room in Special Collections



The Hatch room is a unique place in the special collections at the Merrill library. It is furnished with donated antiques from various families and decorated as if it were a study in a Victorian manor. Complete with a stone-hearth fireplace and candelabra, it is a place where one may look at a complete set of Tennyson or Shakespeare, or glance at a manuscript bible inked in Latin.
Legend has it that not all of the items within were donated freely, and that some are even haunted with the spirits of their former owners who are bound by greed to their earthly possessions.

8. Underneath the Morgan Theater



It seems as if every successful theater is said to be haunted, and Utah State’s Morgan Theater is no exception. Rumors abound of stage crew being hung in the rafters after slipping off of the rigging used for the lighting, or of actors that have met their demise before, after, or even during a popular play. However none of these deaths has ever been substantiated. Still talking with those who have been under the stage in the prop storage area, there is a widely held feeling of being watched by unseen eyes among the furniture.

9. The Osteology Lab




The Osteology lab is a place where anthropology students can study skeletons during the day. At night, however, the place is said to be visited by men who have already passed into the grave. If one listens to the door at night after the last person in the building including the janitors have gone home, it is told that you will hear the dead retelling stories of there former lives.

10. The Bone Furnace



The furnace underneath the oldest part of the Veterinary Science building is used to dispose of biological matter, specifically the dead animals that have been used in experiments for the advancement of science here at the university. Looking into the furnace one can clearly see bone fragments and splinters among the ashes. Some say if you pay close enough attention you can hear the sounds of the countless rats and other animals. Something may even brush your leg.

11.   The Alumni House



The old Presidents’ house that now serves as an alumnus meeting hall at the top of Old Main Hill is said to have visitors come in the dead of night to the court yard. Former caretakers have seen deceased former alumni from all the years of school chatting away under the moonlight.

12.   The Old Main Amphitheater



People who have to walk through or past the old amphitheater on the South side of Old Main Hill know well enough to quicken their steps as they head for home at night. Some say that there is a deranged man who follows female students as they near the trees. No one is sure of his intentions or even his existence. But some that have seen his unruly appearance and the wild gleam in his eye may warn to steer well away from the Amphitheater at night.

13.   The Basement of the Family Life Center House



It is clearly evident by the broken furniture stored here that this dirt floor cellar is seldom used. But there are hints such as a scorched fire pit that someone has been there recently. The house sits at the bottom of Old Main Hill and rumors speculate at what may be buried under that old cellar ranging from hidden treasure to murder victims.

14. The HPER Swimming Pool



In October of 1991 a lifeguard noticed while making a head count of the pool patrons an Asian man swimming near the Southwest deep end of the pool by the diving boards. He appeared to be doing some form of exercise and had his head above water.  When the guard had returned from the office after noting the count he no longer saw the man swimming. No one had heard any cries for help or any splashing from a struggling swimmer. He peered into the pool and saw the man at the bottom in the fetal position.
 He immediately dove in to rescue the man and pulled him to the shallow end and out of the water onto the tile. The man was not breathing and CPR was started as others called 911. Police arrived in a very short time and the man was clearly apnic with no visible respiration and his body was in a state of acrocyanosis a body-wide lack of oxygen that turned his skin bluish. His pupils were fixed and dilated. The officer cleared his airway and began chest pumping. After five minute an ambulance had arrived and they began advanced heart resuscitation. The man was briefly resuscitated regaining a pulse but died while being airlifted to LDS hospital in Salt Lake City by a life-flight helicopter.
Police were unable to identify the victim. The body was photographed and the lockers in the locker room searched to no avail. Various student presidents of Asian communities tried to identify him. He was finally identified when an Intensive English Professor reported him missing after not showing up for class. A Korean interpreter was assigned to notify his family in Korea and it was learned from his parents that he had never learned to swim as far as they were aware.
No one knows why he ventured into the deep end or why he did not struggle or cry out. But it is rumored that after hours there is a stairwell that leads down to a window where you can look into the water beneath the deep end, if the pool is covered sometimes it is said that the man is visible at the bottom still in the fetal position. Most of his sightings have been before a near drowning has taken place in the pool.

15.   The Second Floor of the Biotechnology Lab



This was the site of a very gruesome death. In February of 1999 a Chinese man committed suicide by ingesting a lethal chemical. The man had been in a relationship for two years with a female co-worker at the lab. However they had broken up and parted ways. The man could not accept his loss and tried to win her back. When that failed he resorted to racking her with guilt as he killed himself in front of her one night as the two were working late.
A frantic 911 call made by the woman with the man screaming in the background notified the police. When they arrived the man was disoriented and had stripped himself nude attempting to alleviate the burning inside him. He was foaming at the mouth and began to convulse on the floor. It was learned from the hysterically sobbing woman that he drank aldehyde a chemical compound found in formaldahyde that is used for embalming. The man’s jaw became rigid and the officer was unable to pry his mouth open. CPR was impossible because of his convulsions and the chemical fumes coming from his mouth prevented mouth to mouth breathing.  Sadly he was dead before the ambulance arrived a few minutes later. He was officially pronounced dead at Logan Regional Hospital.
It is often said that severe emotions may leave an imprint almost like a memory in a place of tragedy. Those who work late at night have heard ghostly screams and frantic wailing and have seen an unknown Asian male in a lab coat walking by.
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Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2012, 06:40:02 PM »
Fell asleep on the couch one night in the house I grew up in, and Woke at 4 in the morning to find a white ghost hovering over me.
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Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2012, 06:46:48 PM »
Fell asleep on the couch one night in the house I grew up in, and Woke at 4 in the morning to find a white ghost hovering over me.

Was it someone you recognized, or a stranger? How did this white ghost appear? Solid? Transparent? Floating? Standing? Clothing? Were your family the original owners of the house? s there anyone supposed to have died in the home? How old were you?

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Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2012, 07:02:40 PM »
I was about 23. We bought the house, but I hear people died in there.. It was an old house. No recognizable face. Just a white shroud.
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Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2012, 07:15:33 PM »
Oh my gosh!  This thread is very scary!
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Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2012, 07:18:14 PM »
Ghost: That was a great write up on haunted USU!  My folks went there when I was a toddler.  It was Utah State Ag College back then. I remember hearing stories about the Old Main being haunted, so those tales dated back into the late 1950s.  When I was a kid in Salt Lake we used to try to find the Bride of Memory Grove and get some sort of reaction from Emo's Grave.  But no luck.

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Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2012, 07:22:45 PM »
Ghost....Very interesting stuff! I'm pleased you took the time to post everything you did, and the other UMA members seem to be diggin this thread.

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Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2012, 08:03:56 PM »
I often listen to this podcast called "Anything Ghost" which features true-life tales of otherworldly events.  Sometimes the stories give me a shiver!

http://anythingghost.libsyn.com/

And I love to read supposedly true ghost stories.  I have a stack of books that I go through when I have that hankering!
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Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2012, 08:09:45 PM »
  Yes.  Lived in a house with a creepy bad room between age 3 to 6. 
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Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2012, 08:26:24 PM »
I haven't had an experience to date .. I've been on several haunted and vampire walking tours in the French Quarter (New Orleans) and they are well worth the money .. In fact, we're thinking of getting a haunted room in the Andrew Jackson Hotel the next time we visit.

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