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Re: Should There Be Digital Changes To A&C Meet Frankenstein?
« Reply #30 on: June 05, 2012, 08:28:54 PM »
OK, I'm generally against colorization. Not because I'm purist,but because it always looks like crap. Of all the Uni Monster canon, CFTBL is the only one I think would really benefit from colorizing, and if it could be done WELL I'd love to see it.

I'm not familiar with the Harryhausen  colorizations. Are they really that good?

Gary, I too generally avoid 'colorized' films because as you say, they usually look like crap. But both 20 Million Miles to Earth and Earth vs. the Flying Saucers looked very natural to me, and both looked great in color. There's a documentary that I believe was on both discs that shows how the company worked with Harryhausen to get the colors right. It's pretty cool, he's actually sitting with the artists/technicians, selecting colors. You could tell they really wanted to get it right. I highly recommend these discs -and you know we tend to agree on a lot of stuff, and I'm telling you, these discs look cool with an extra dose of awesome.

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Re: Should There Be Digital Changes To A&C Meet Frankenstein?
« Reply #31 on: June 05, 2012, 08:39:03 PM »
That's a big NO to every concept that has been brought up in this thread!!!  >:(
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Re: Should There Be Digital Changes To A&C Meet Frankenstein?
« Reply #32 on: June 05, 2012, 09:44:59 PM »
Gary, I too generally avoid 'colorized' films because as you say, they usually look like crap. But both 20 Million Miles to Earth and Earth vs. the Flying Saucers looked very natural to me, and both looked great in color. There's a documentary that I believe was on both discs that shows how the company worked with Harryhausen to get the colors right. It's pretty cool, he's actually sitting with the artists/technicians, selecting colors. You could tell they really wanted to get it right. I highly recommend these discs -and you know we tend to agree on a lot of stuff, and I'm telling you, these discs look cool with an extra dose of awesome.

Good enough for my sister, good enough for me. I'm going to hit Amazon and check these out.
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Re: Should There Be Digital Changes To A&C Meet Frankenstein?
« Reply #33 on: June 06, 2012, 11:45:11 AM »
And for the love of the gods...if you have to change something don't pull a Lucas and make the original version unavailable.  I'd like to see a color version of The Creature from the Black Lagoon done in the style of the Harryhausen Blu Rays but I'll always want the b/w version too!

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Re: Should There Be Digital Changes To A&C Meet Frankenstein?
« Reply #34 on: June 07, 2012, 03:05:18 AM »
And for the love of the gods...if you have to change something don't pull a Lucas and make the original version unavailable.  I'd like to see a color version of The Creature from the Black Lagoon done in the style of the Harryhausen Blu Rays but I'll always want the b/w version too!
You know WHY Lucas did that? To spite his ex-wife, Marcia, who was an editor on "Star Wars." By putting out the Special Editions, she no longer gets royalties from the originals. That's why, when they did the 2-disk releases of the Original Trilogy, the original theatrical cuts were Bonus Features: in other words, freebies. Again, no royalties to the ex!
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Re: Should There Be Digital Changes To A&C Meet Frankenstein?
« Reply #35 on: June 07, 2012, 06:38:50 AM »
I understand the reason he divorced her was because she was caught in a compromising position with JarJar Binks. :P
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Re: Should There Be Digital Changes To A&C Meet Frankenstein?
« Reply #36 on: June 07, 2012, 05:04:09 PM »
You know WHY Lucas did that? To spite his ex-wife, Marcia, who was an editor on "Star Wars." By putting out the Special Editions, she no longer gets royalties from the originals. That's why, when they did the 2-disk releases of the Original Trilogy, the original theatrical cuts were Bonus Features: in other words, freebies. Again, no royalties to the ex!

Wow, that's crazy!!  And Scatter my friend...check out those Harryhausen discs pronto!!

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Re: Should There Be Digital Changes To A&C Meet Frankenstein?
« Reply #37 on: June 07, 2012, 06:00:13 PM »
I understand the reason he divorced her was because she was caught in a compromising position with Jar Jar Binks. :P
She had nothing to do with Jar Jar whatsoever. The reason Lucas waited until 1999 to release "Episode I" was so she couldn't lay claim to any royalties from more "Star Wars" films, not because he was "waiting for the technology to catch up to my vision," as he's so often quoted as saying. I believe all of her claims to future "Star Wars" films expired in Jan. 1999.
 
But, back in '82, during production of "Return of the Jedi," Marcia did have an affair. She claims the marriage had been crumbling since '81, and the affair is what convinced her it was "finally over."
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Re: Should There Be Digital Changes To A&C Meet Frankenstein?
« Reply #38 on: June 07, 2012, 06:24:25 PM »
Lucas deserves it all for creating that mindless children's trilogy and for adding insult to injury by creating an even worse prequel trilogy. This universe would be all the better without it. Shameless hack.

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Re: Should There Be Digital Changes To A&C Meet Frankenstein?
« Reply #39 on: June 08, 2012, 10:40:27 AM »
Yes, they should change that mirror shot, I never liked it either.  And they should fiddle with the shot of the Wolf Man falling into the ocean.  Darn photochemical mattes!


Seriously...what's more important, I wonder?  That they dropped the ball on Dracula's reflection in the mirror?  Or that it is perhaps the first instance on film in which a female victim reacts "orgasmically" to the penetration of Dracula's fangs?
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Re: Should There Be Digital Changes To A&C Meet Frankenstein?
« Reply #40 on: June 08, 2012, 12:43:40 PM »


I still wonder RE: mirror shot.

Were they really that stupid/spend the money to set that shot up and then not 'take Lugosi out' later? Seems unlikely. That took a lot of technical figuring, just to be forgotten later. Or was it a lame vampire in-joke (casting a reflection) from the beginning? If not, why bother with a mirror shot at all?


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Re: Should There Be Digital Changes To A&C Meet Frankenstein?
« Reply #41 on: June 08, 2012, 03:38:11 PM »
Seems to me that no one considered it important to keep that detail of vampire lore.  It wasn't crucial to the story, and the movie plays fine if the viewer "ignores" this little mistake.

Or, just as likely, they had the scene on the day's shot list, they got Lugosi and Aubert in front of the camera, and as the camera was about to roll, someone noted, "Hey, I can see Dracula in the mirror--isn't that wrong?" but it was decided that "no one will notice it" and they got the scene and moved on.
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Re: Should There Be Digital Changes To A&C Meet Frankenstein?
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Re: Should There Be Digital Changes To A&C Meet Frankenstein?
« Reply #43 on: June 08, 2012, 06:04:05 PM »
Wow, that's crazy!!  And Scatter my friend...check out those Harryhausen discs pronto!!

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Re: Should There Be Digital Changes To A&C Meet Frankenstein?
« Reply #44 on: June 09, 2012, 04:55:40 PM »
I generally hate it when "they" mess with things that have historical integrity, although I wouldn't mind too much seeing the obvious wires erased from a blu-ray of War of the Worlds. I think George Pal would have given that a thumbs-up. Now I'm feelin' guilty for sayin' it.

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Re: Should There Be Digital Changes To A&C Meet Frankenstein?
« Reply #44 on: June 09, 2012, 04:55:40 PM »