Author Topic: VOTE! Should the UMA eliminate all resin model kit discussion?  (Read 14863 times)

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The UMA is currently deciding whether or not to eliminate all discussion on resin garage kits. Perhaps its just too toxic of a subject because of the recasting component?

We are inviting seasoned members with post counts above 50 posts to participate in this poll. Sorry, but New Recruits (less than 50 posts) will NOT be allowed to participate in this poll. This is a preventive measure to weed out the recast spammers. You know who you are. 

The UMA admins will review the results of this poll and determine the necessary action from there (if any). This may result in an all new forum restricted to styrene discussion only. This and other ideas are still being explored.

The UMA reserves the right to do what it wishes, and to make the final determination outside of the poll results. 

Voting closes: January 29, 2012, 05:15:54 AM

The poll may be found at the top of this post right underneath the Model Kits banner.
« Last Edit: January 24, 2012, 11:36:54 AM by fmofmpls »
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Re: VOTE! Should the UMA eliminate all resin model kit discussion?
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2012, 11:35:00 AM »
I know this has been an ongoing and severely toxic topic, and seen some recent posts. I've no vested interest one way or the other, however working in the entertainment industry, where piracy runs rampid, I am sensitive to the rights of individuals who own the properties, but as I am unclear as to the entire scope of the conflict, I have voted non-commital. My first Black beauty model kit was a resin garage kit, purchased as a gift for me, more than 25 years ago as the original Aurora was virtually unavailable, and probably unaffordable.

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Re: VOTE! Should the UMA eliminate all resin model kit discussion?
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2012, 11:42:31 AM »
Well why stop there? Why not ban the discussion of everything while you're at it and just close down the entire forum so as to not offend anyone.

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Re: VOTE! Should the UMA eliminate all resin model kit discussion?
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2012, 11:46:35 AM »
Well why stop there? Why not ban the discussion of everything while you're at it and just close down the entire forum so as to not offend anyone.

Fair enough.
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Re: VOTE! Should the UMA eliminate all resin model kit discussion?
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2012, 11:47:33 AM »
I can't blame you for asking this, since there seems to be a lot babies wanting to take their ball and go home, but all discussion should be aloud.
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Re: VOTE! Should the UMA eliminate all resin model kit discussion?
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2012, 11:50:35 AM »
Well why stop there? Why not ban the discussion of everything while you're at it and just close down the entire forum so as to not offend anyone.

It's not a matter of not offending anyone.  It's a matter of this is a giant pain in our ass.  90% of the problems on the UMA come from this garage kit group.

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Re: VOTE! Should the UMA eliminate all resin model kit discussion?
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2012, 11:52:23 AM »
Leaving comments here is fine, but we need everyone to vote too. That is the purpose of this thread. Be sure to vote!
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Re: VOTE! Should the UMA eliminate all resin model kit discussion?
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2012, 12:00:40 PM »
How about this- if it's licensed, it's OK to post here?

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Re: VOTE! Should the UMA eliminate all resin model kit discussion?
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2012, 12:07:52 PM »
looks like someone is volunteering to scour the site for unlicensed products

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Re: VOTE! Should the UMA eliminate all resin model kit discussion?
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2012, 12:21:57 PM »
How about instead of chopping down the tree, someone just remove the bad "apples?"

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Re: VOTE! Should the UMA eliminate all resin model kit discussion?
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2012, 12:23:41 PM »
Well, I am the Styrene Dude after all....I can't and won't speak for others, but I only buy licensed stuff. I voted to ditch the garage kit talk.

I don't think it's fair for folks like Frank Winspur from Moebius or Scott McKillop from Monarch to pay proper royalties to produce kits legitimately while others skirt the law.

Sorry, that's just how I feel.

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Re: VOTE! Should the UMA eliminate all resin model kit discussion?
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2012, 12:27:40 PM »
After watching the fallout over the last few days, I've been amazed.  I never realized what a volatile subject this could be.  However, I enjoy seeing the new resin kits that are available and also the build ups.  I really hope we do not have to eliminate them from the forum.  I also want to thank Terry for his efforts to keep this amazing site free of animosity and conflict.
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Re: VOTE! Should the UMA eliminate all resin model kit discussion?
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2012, 12:28:59 PM »
It's a no for me, although I'm not some huge fan of garage kits I do enjoy seeing these kits all built up, whether they be original or recasts!!  The variety is amazing and the likenesses to any particular given subject are usually incredible!  How can a bootlegger of a bootlegger be found guilty?!  It's like someone bootlegging concerts and then finding out that other person out there is bootlegging off his stuff and getting mad about it?!?!  It may not be right but bootlegging isn't legal in the first place!

Now if a person doing a garage kit has somehow managed to score a license (Does that really ever happen?) for a given property that is entirely different but I'm also going to assume that if that is the case the original sculptor could contact the actual license holder if they see bootlegs start popping up!  A bootlegger is probably going to be more inclined to cease and desist if they are being told by a multi-million dollar company than by some starving artist!  Of course if these recast kits are coming from overseas then you might as well just live with it as you will never stop it.

Then again to clear the garbage out it may be inevitable that garage kits have to get packed away back in the garage as far as the UMA is concerned!

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Re: VOTE! Should the UMA eliminate all resin model kit discussion?
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2012, 12:33:58 PM »
No, don't eliminate the discussion.

I also think UMA's policy with respect to the issue has been the correct one. No open selling of recasts through the board but no witch hunts either.

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Re: VOTE! Should the UMA eliminate all resin model kit discussion?
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2012, 01:00:34 PM »
Well, I am the Styrene Dude after all....I can't and won't speak for others, but I only buy licensed stuff. I voted to ditch the garage kit talk.

I don't think it's fair for folks like Frank Winspur from Moebius or Scott McKillop from Monarch to pay proper royalties to produce kits legitimately while others skirt the law.

Sorry, that's just how I feel.
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« Last Edit: January 24, 2012, 01:04:44 PM by Mitchellmania »

 

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