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Street Worm

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So...Know Anything About Mid-'40s Jukeboxes?
« on: July 22, 2011, 05:04:27 AM »
Wasn't sure where to put this,
but I thought if I was ever going this find an answear, this board was the place...

Never saw one of these before & this week I saw it twice-

First in the Charlie Chan flick "The Shanghai Cobra" (1945) there's a jukebox that you put your coin in and an operator at a remote location asks what you'd like to hear & if they have it, she plays it for you (there are no records in the box, itself)
The operator could also see you on her screen...  ???



thought it was just made up for the movie until I saw "Behind the Mask" (1946) tonight- a (not very good) Shadow flick where bets were taken through a jukebox operator (at a remote location)...

so, ever hear of such a thing?
did they have a special name?

I can't find any info~   :(

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Re: So...Know Anything About Mid-'40s Jukeboxes?
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2011, 06:06:58 AM »
Wall mounted jukeboxes (like at the booths in a diner) don't contain the record either, all the records are in another location (usually the basement). I wonder if the operator you describe predates the mechanism in the basement OR if it was a fancy way of doing it.

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Re: So...Know Anything About Mid-'40s Jukeboxes?
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2011, 06:51:38 AM »
I've been finding stuff this morning-
it's all pretty wild!



Curiously, one gizmo-fad with feeble staying power made strong, quirky inroads to the Hollywood reality of the 1940s.  Telephone Music was a two-way jukebox system, relayed by phone, where juke customers spoke their requests to female DJs at a remote central library.  When introduced in 1940, the fad’s prospects looked bright:  H. L. Menken’s American Mercury magazine touted that Phone Music would give juke-listeners choices from a library of thousands of recordings instead of a “measly dozen or two” found on the usual machine.  Introduced and then unceremoniously sacked over the span of the 1940s, Phone Music’s existence might now be unknown except for its use as plot devices in films made over sixty years ago.  *

Some more stuff here- Coin-Op Telephone Line Music

 

THE SHYVERS MULTIPHONE

a 1941 'Jennings'




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Re: So...Know Anything About Mid-'40s Jukeboxes?
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2011, 07:17:12 AM »

Reminds me of a Scopitone-


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Re: So...Know Anything About Mid-'40s Jukeboxes?
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2011, 04:38:34 PM »
I've been finding stuff this morning-
it's all pretty wild!



Curiously, one gizmo-fad with feeble staying power made strong, quirky inroads to the Hollywood reality of the 1940s.  Telephone Music was a two-way jukebox system, relayed by phone, where juke customers spoke their requests to female DJs at a remote central library.  When introduced in 1940, the fad’s prospects looked bright:  H. L. Menken’s American Mercury magazine touted that Phone Music would give juke-listeners choices from a library of thousands of recordings instead of a “measly dozen or two” found on the usual machine.  Introduced and then unceremoniously sacked over the span of the 1940s, Phone Music’s existence might now be unknown except for its use as plot devices in films made over sixty years ago.  *

Some more stuff here- Coin-Op Telephone Line Music

 

THE SHYVERS MULTIPHONE

a 1941 'Jennings'


wow This is cool! I really like the last picture!
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Re: So...Know Anything About Mid-'40s Jukeboxes?
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2011, 04:57:51 PM »
Reminds me of a Scopitone-




Ah, the fun we used to have around the family Scopitone........... :o
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Re: So...Know Anything About Mid-'40s Jukeboxes?
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2011, 06:44:11 PM »
This is all new for me ... very interesting.
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Re: So...Know Anything About Mid-'40s Jukeboxes?
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2011, 09:54:07 PM »
The operator could also see you on her screen...  ???

Are you sure of this? That would require closed circuit television technology.

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Re: So...Know Anything About Mid-'40s Jukeboxes?
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2011, 10:53:13 PM »
Reminds me of a Scopitone-




Here are some cool 'n sexy 1960s 16mm "music videos" made just for the Scopitone...


Sonny King - "I Cried For You" (Scopitone S-1033)


Vince Taylor "Twenty Flight Rock" (Scopitone)


Neil Sedaka "Calendar Girl" (Scopitone)


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Re: So...Know Anything About Mid-'40s Jukeboxes?
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2011, 04:21:13 AM »
Are you sure of this? That would require closed circuit television technology.

 ???


After looking around yesterday, I'm pretty sure that part was just a bit of hollywood magic
added to the Charlie Chan flick...

Still, I'm amazed by the whole thing-
Love the pic of the 'operators' ! Wonder what happened to all this stuff(?)  8)

one more pic of these oddities-
2 by Rock-Ola & another Jennings- this time with a telephone attachment~

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Re: So...Know Anything About Mid-'40s Jukeboxes?
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2011, 09:49:22 AM »
Reminds me of a Scopitone-



That was an entirely different technology from the Coin-Op Telephone Music systems/jukeboxes though.

The Scopitones were straight coin operated jukeboxes that also played a video. There was a resurgence in bars of similar devices in the early seventies. No phone lines or operators were required.

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Re: So...Know Anything About Mid-'40s Jukeboxes?
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2011, 10:49:55 AM »
The Scopitones were straight coin operated jukeboxes that also played a video. There was a resurgence in bars of similar devices in the early. No phone lines or operators were required.
"Video" in the sense of 16mm film. Tons of these on YouTube. Euro ones well into the 60s.
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Re: So...Know Anything About Mid-'40s Jukeboxes?
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2011, 12:57:50 PM »
Both the York Hotel and the Oxford House in London, Ontario had one in the men's beverage room in 1972-73. Striptease clips set to music were the most popular selections.

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