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Re: Bronze Forgotten Prisoner ...Info???
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2011, 08:50:43 AM »
Hey Denis did you try contacting Andy Y about it?He worked for Aurora and might know something about this one.
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Re: Bronze Forgotten Prisoner ...Info???
« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2011, 09:07:56 AM »
didnt people used to cover baby shoes in bronze? Maybe its similar to that?

Good thought, but they don't dip them in molten bronze, they paint them with bronze powder in a resin suspension. Also, it obscures the fine details. This item looks way too sharp to have been bronzed in that fashion.


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Re: Bronze Forgotten Prisoner ...Info???
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2011, 09:50:21 AM »
>That said, they could have made a wax positive from the originals and then used the lost wax method to make yours, that would work.<

That's  my guess, Gill. I believe it's how the guy I mentioned did his brass Dr. Evil.

Great pics here:

http://www.rautystoyshop.com/brassdrevil.html

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Re: Bronze Forgotten Prisoner ...Info???
« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2011, 03:47:32 PM »


That said, they could have made a wax positive from the originals and then used the lost wax method to make yours, that would work.

I'm very eager to hear more once you receive it in hand!

My assumption based upon the item description on eBay is that a wax negative was made from an actual built Aurora model, then a mold made from that.
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Re: Bronze Forgotten Prisoner ...Info???
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2011, 06:45:16 AM »
...It was one of those 'rare' auctions that sort of slipped through the cracks...
a 7 day auction...I was the only bidder at $49.00 until the very end and someone tried to snipe it from me...I had put down $100.00 as my Max bid and the other guy must have bid $85.00 at the last moment... I figure getting it for $87.00 was a pretty good deal 
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***Just got a lead that it was purchased 2 years ago from here...
http://stores.ebay.com/The-Black-Broom?_rdc=1
I've asked them if they made it or if the bought it from another source...
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Re: Bronze Forgotten Prisoner ...Info???
« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2011, 12:24:17 AM »
A while back that same seller had a Marx Mummy in bronze. It looked exactly like the plastic Marx Mummy but it was cast in bronze.

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Re: Bronze Forgotten Prisoner ...Info???
« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2011, 08:45:47 AM »
flat out amazing

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Re: Bronze Forgotten Prisoner ...Info???
« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2011, 09:12:20 AM »
Hey Denis did you try contacting Andy Y about it?He worked for Aurora and might know something about this one.

Through another forum I asked if Andy knew anything about it...here was the response:
I spoke with Andy this afternoon and he said that he has no knowledge of anything like this having ever been done by Aurora or for anyone at Aurora. So best as we can tell, it was done by someone that had access to bronze casting and was a fan of the Forgotten Prisoner.
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Other info I've recieved points to a method called the Lost Wax method of Casting...
As Gillfan said on the previous page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost-wax_casting
...Should have it in my hands this week...I'll post pictures of a comparison to an Original Aurora Forgotten Prisoner...
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Re: Bronze Forgotten Prisoner ...Info???
« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2011, 12:35:13 PM »
i would check on someon with a connection to cinemodels. they did the FP also, about 20 years ago.

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Re: Bronze Forgotten Prisoner ...Info???
« Reply #24 on: May 01, 2011, 01:13:34 PM »

>Other info I've recieved points to a method called the Lost Wax method of Casting...<

As Gillfan said on the previous page.

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Re: Bronze Forgotten Prisoner ...Info???
« Reply #25 on: May 01, 2011, 02:02:26 PM »
Regardless of who made it, it looks like a great piece.
I'd love a Frankenstein like that.

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Re: Bronze Forgotten Prisoner ...Info???
« Reply #26 on: May 01, 2011, 03:07:23 PM »

IMO, this Forgotten Prisoner is a cast someone did off an original kit, and has nothing to do with the Aurora company. Yes, it is called a lost wax, or an investment casting. My Dad was a dentist, and he could cast like this. Artists and jewelers cast using this method, too.

Somebody did this for kicks. Here is a Wolfman spoon top figure done the same way...

http://cgi.ebay.com/WOLF-MAN-Vintage-Metal-Figure-/110679566109?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c504271d


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Re: Bronze Forgotten Prisoner ...Info???
« Reply #27 on: May 11, 2011, 10:00:09 PM »
Got it in the mail yesterday and when you flick it with youy finger it Rings like a bell
.nothing looks braised it looks cast...
The part #2 is clear on the back of the model...It is identical to the plastic kit The Chest... pants and skull are hollow as if the Plastic kit had turned into Bronze...I wish you could see it in person, ...it is so solid that you can lift it up by any part with no fears of it breaking or coming apart...not a loose item on it at all...Here are some new photos...








 I took a few photos...Looks like someone ground off the Aurora logo on the bottom...







Weighs in at 1.5 lbs...or 0.7kg
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Re: Bronze Forgotten Prisoner ...Info???
« Reply #28 on: May 11, 2011, 10:22:40 PM »
Looks great. If they did a Franky I would be all over it, or a Creature.
Sweet Jebus...imagine if they did a Big Franky!
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Re: Bronze Forgotten Prisoner ...Info???
« Reply #29 on: May 13, 2011, 06:25:45 PM »
That is freaking outstanding!! What a find!!
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