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Cine Art Phantom of the Opera Busts for Sale
« on: August 30, 2010, 12:23:33 PM »
Hello to Everyone at UMA!

I recently came across something I had never seen before. Hollow cast resin versions of the Cine Art Phantom of the Opera busts. They are larger, more detailed and look better than the vinyl version that I saw at Spenser's Gifts. These are all original and come in the original Cine Art packaging. They are also fully licensed by Universal and Chaney Enterprises.

Here is a photo of the unpainted resin bust, serial number 167/900 (This bust is also an edition of 900 pieces). I took this one out of it's packaging to inspect it. The others are still in their original boxes.



This is a photo of the Cine Art sticker still on the original box showing the serial number.



Next is a photo of a black resin plaque that fits under the bust. It also is individually scribed showing that it is serial number 167.



And here is a photo of the painted bust that is included in the package.



As I said, I had never seen the resin edition of this bust and wanted a better idea of how it differed from the vinyl version. I luckily found some pictures here at the Universal Monster Army showing the two busts side by side. I'd like to thank Gracebuster for granting me permission to use his photos.







You will notice that the resin bust on the left has had a number of alterations performed, such as the addition of real hair and cloth cape, but also notice the size and detail difference.

I'm asking $335.00 each for these busts. If you're interested, send me a message here at The Universal Monster Army or e-mail me at :bill(*at*)wnharrison.com
Shipping charges are not included. Let me know your preference for shipping and your zip code and I'll get you a quote. Shipping weight is between 7 and 8 pounds. I used FedEx Ground for shipping the Frankenstein busts and had no problem at all.
Please let any Lon Chaney fans that you know about this. Again, I'd never seen the resin version of these busts doubt that you'll be able to find one of these in better shape, if at all!

Bill Harrison

ps the e-mail function doesn't seem to be working, so you will have to put the (*at*) sign in for your self.



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Re: Cine Art Phantom of the Opera Busts for Sale
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2010, 04:27:28 PM »
I've sold one of these busts, that leaves three to go.

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Re: Cine Art Phantom of the Opera Busts for Sale
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2010, 08:22:13 PM »
I can personally vouch for Bill.

Beyond that I can tell you all that these busts are certainly the real deal. Old Cine Art stock. The price is a bargain! Hope they end up in the collections of our members.

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Re: Cine Art Phantom of the Opera Busts for Sale
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2010, 08:56:23 PM »
I can personally vouch for Bill.

Beyond that I can tell you all that these busts are certainly the real deal. Old Cine Art stock. The price is a bargain! Hope they end up in the collections of our members.

Thank you!

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Re: Cine Art Phantom of the Opera Busts for Sale
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2010, 08:44:48 PM »
I've sold and shipped one more, that makes two left.

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Re: Cine Art Phantom of the Opera Busts for Sale
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2010, 04:51:50 PM »
I've sold the last two Phantom busts today, so I'm all out. That went a lot faster than I anticipated. I want to thank everybody that bought one or wrote to me about them. You've made this a big success for me.
I've already had one person asking to buy one. If anyone else is interested in purchasing a Phantom bust, please write to me. I'll see what can be done.

Thank you all again!

Bill Harrison

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Re: Cine Art Phantom of the Opera Busts for Sale
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2010, 09:58:05 PM »
Wow.  They're neat.

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Re: Cine Art Phantom of the Opera Busts for Sale
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2010, 09:25:13 AM »
Wow thats very neat. But a little out of my price range at the time being.

Question, Why did Cine-Art do 2 sizes? Is it that 1 was a prototype?

 Ya know, I still kick myself. I remember seeing the Frankenstein bust at Spenser's about 15 years ago. It was the 1st time I ever saw anything with such a true likeness of Karloff. I stared at it for over 15 min. It was going for $39. They had 3 of them. I thought I wait till after halloween to buy it. It will come down in price. Besides no-one will know that this is the Karloff Frankenstein. No-one except for a Monster Geek, and I'm probably the only one that live in Rochester, NY.....
 
Who Knew!  That was at least 15 years ago.
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Re: Cine Art Phantom of the Opera Busts for Sale
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2010, 11:23:36 AM »

Question, Why did Cine-Art do 2 sizes? Is it that 1 was a prototype?



I'm not 100% certain on my answer, but I think it has to do with marketing. For both the Frankenstein and Phantom busts, Cine Art did two versions, one in vinyl and pre-painted, for the lower price point collector. These were the ones we saw at Spencer's Gifts.  The other version was in resin, which is more expensive, aimed at the serious (and rich) collector, who was willing to paint it himself. The vinyl versions went for around $100 originally. You'll still see vinyl Phantoms sold on the internet for that price. The resin versions sold in the $400 to $500 range.
Resin holds it shape much better than vinyl. I know that the vinyl Frankenstein busts had a problem around the neck, which would tend to flatten out. Vinyl also shrinks about 10% in the casting process. Since they were cast from the same original sculpts by Miles Teves (both Frankenstein and Phantom), the vinyl version was well over an inch shorter. Cine Art clouded this issue (by mistake?) in it's marketing of the busts by referring to the vinyl versions as "vinyl resin" or "resin vinyl" (can't remember which).
There's a thread here at UMA that went into this subject in detail in the Masks and Busts section. Here is the link: http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=7075.0
Sorry if my answer was a bit long winded. I'd encourage anyone with knowledge on Cine Art to chime in on this, as there is much to learn.

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Re: Cine Art Phantom of the Opera Busts for Sale
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2010, 05:45:00 PM »
I remember reading that Cineart produced the Resin (*large) castings first.

Apparently there was never an option or suggestion from Cineart that there
would be forthcoming versions in Vinyl, which would be 1/4 to 1/5 of the price!!!

Also read in this article was Cineart wasn't selling a lot of these at $400-$500
(15 years ago!) and had to come up with a plan.

Many collectors were upset they paid such a high price compared to these less
costly ones. They also felt somewhat burned at the idea that these "Limited" pieces
were now being offered to 12,500 "Lowly Serfs" for a pittance of $100.
(Thus making their "Limited" pieces less valuable in their minds.)

What I can say, is the Karloff (sculpted by Miles teves) is pretty much one of THE BEST,
(and MOST COPIED) sculpt offered over the years!

I own 3 of the small vinyl versions and 2 of the larger versions of Karloff and side by side, the difference is quite visible!.

I also own a small vinyl version of the Phantom.

I now own one of these large busts of the phantom...(thankyou Phibes! My search is now over!)


Again, this info is only from what I have read in several articles over the years.
I do not claim to be an expert on this.

Any one else read the same as I have?

Here is my small version...(vinyl) which will be replaced when I paint this new large resin copy!
http://s918.photobucket.com/albums/ad21/opus64/?action=view&current=PhantomBustCINEARTSept1110.jpg



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Re: Cine Art Phantom of the Opera Busts for Sale
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2010, 07:12:36 AM »
I received mine and it looks fantastic.  Great service from Bill, and thanks for hooking up the UMA with a chance to get these.


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Re: Cine Art Phantom of the Opera Busts for Sale
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2010, 11:18:04 PM »
I want to thank all who inquired about the Phantom of the Opera busts. I am completely sold out. If the moderators wish to remove this thread, they may do so at their discretion. Thank you all again.
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Re: Cine Art Phantom of the Opera Busts for Sale
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2010, 11:36:07 PM »
Bill, I want to thank you again for offering these up for sale!
I was looking for years...(the search is over!)

Great service from a Very TRUSTWORTHY member!

Jeff