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Collecting Monsters => Vintage Monster Toys => Topic started by: fmofmpls on June 27, 2010, 08:34:52 PM

Title: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: fmofmpls on June 27, 2010, 08:34:52 PM

It's time for a thread dedicated to this incredible 1960's science kit mixed with a classic monster motif. Vintage monster toy goodness in every way!

Let's start with some eye-popping photos courtesy of Toysfortheages.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3086/4562075255_671eaa206b_b.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3421/4562075389_d49773d786_b.jpg)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4050/4562075583_9cfa4cffaf_b.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3536/4562075781_3a1eba48cb_b.jpg)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2716/4380924008_65d19d44e0_b.jpg)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4032/4562705686_061c70caf9_b.jpg)

Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Monolith on June 27, 2010, 09:02:06 PM
Its MAD, MAD, MAD... and it's completely safe.

The lettering is very Aurora-ish.
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: fmofmpls on June 27, 2010, 09:07:42 PM
Anyone know if the box art was painted by James Bama? It certainly has that look and feel to it.
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: toysfortheages on June 27, 2010, 09:17:06 PM
Terry, thanks for featuring my piece!  The scintillating box art was created by none other than Mort Kunstler.  The boy is his son.  Mort painted many Aurora box covers, including the Confederate Raider, Apache Warrior, Odd Job, both UNCLE kits, etc.  He is also well known for his outstanding civil war themed paintings and the many covers he created for paperback novels.

Keir
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Mike Scott on June 27, 2010, 09:41:07 PM
The scintillating box art was created by none other than Mort Kunstler.

And the similar Mad, Mad, Mad Magician.
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Monolith on June 27, 2010, 09:48:15 PM
Mort Kunstler ROCKS!!!

I have It's a Man's World which features his men's magazine illustrations.

Here's one...
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kzclfbuROP1qzdulpo1_400.jpg)

Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Toxinom on June 28, 2010, 08:09:58 AM
*Sigh* If only kids these days could have kits like these....
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Mike Scott on June 28, 2010, 09:24:17 AM
*Sigh* If only kids these days could have kits like these....

Today it would probably be The Mad Mad Mad Meth Lab!
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: ChrisW on June 28, 2010, 11:53:18 AM
Keir, Mort didn't paint Confederate raider or Apache Warrior, but you are right, he did many, MANY covers for Aurora. THe re-issues of the Gladiators, the first Superman cover, the great Sports series... His covers for Aurora's 1/32nd sale car kits are classics. A true illustrator, he wasn't content to just do a picture of the car - his covers told stories. He's still producing wonderful art at 79.
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Bogey on June 28, 2010, 04:59:13 PM
(http://fineartamerica.com/images-medium/chamberlains-charge-mort-kunstler.jpg)

Yup.  I have the above Mort print framed.  Just need another wall for it and a battle map of Gettysburg during the second day of battle.
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Bogey on June 28, 2010, 04:59:52 PM
PS Did anyone as a kid try this lab set?
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Opera Ghost on June 28, 2010, 05:03:30 PM
Never knew it existed!


OG
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Mike Scott on June 28, 2010, 05:10:27 PM
PS Did anyone as a kid try this lab set?

Unfortunately, those people are no longer with us.  :'(
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: fmofmpls on June 28, 2010, 05:17:38 PM
PS Did anyone as a kid try this lab set?

Richard Reid, better known as the 'shoe bomber.'  Fortunately, he failed too.
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: fmofmpls on June 28, 2010, 05:18:20 PM
Today it would probably be The Mad Mad Mad Meth Lab!

 :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Bogey on June 28, 2010, 05:50:20 PM
Richard Reid, better known as the 'shoe bomber.'  Fortunately, he failed too.

Unfortunately, those people are no longer with us.  :'(

Talk about throwing a hanging curve ball. ;D
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Wicked Lester on June 28, 2010, 06:13:08 PM
Love the box graphics on this thing!
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: toysfortheages on June 28, 2010, 06:30:05 PM
Keir, Mort didn't paint Confederate raider or Apache Warrior, but you are right, he did many, MANY covers for Aurora. THe re-issues of the Gladiators, the first Superman cover, the great Sports series... His covers for Aurora's 1/32nd sale car kits are classics. A true illustrator, he wasn't content to just do a picture of the car - his covers told stories. He's still producing wonderful art at 79.

Chris, are you sure?  I'm virtually certain Kunstler did those boxes.  But then again I've been wrong before......
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Monolith on June 29, 2010, 01:08:41 AM
I saw one of these mad mad mad labs at an antique and collectables show in California about fifteen or so years ago. Was that yours Keir ? Cuz this isn't a toy you see around much.
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: toysfortheages on June 29, 2010, 11:58:06 PM
I saw one of these mad mad mad labs at an antique and collectables show in California about fifteen or so years ago. Was that yours Keir ? Cuz this isn't a toy you see around much.


Not to boast but I've owned five of these beauties over the past 22 years, plus one empty box.  Every one of them was purchased privately.  They still qualify as rare.
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: ChrisW on July 02, 2010, 07:22:53 PM
Chris, are you sure?  I'm virtually certain Kunstler did those boxes.  But then again I've been wrong before......


Jo Kotula did the art on the Confederate Raider and Apache. The earliest art Kunstler did for Aurora (that I know of) were done in '62.
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: toysfortheages on July 03, 2010, 12:36:22 AM
Jo Kotula did the art on the Confederate Raider and Apache. The earliest art Kunstler did for Aurora (that I know of) were done in '62.

You're right, I stand corrected!  Kunstler, Kotula.......konfusing!
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Inkfink on July 03, 2010, 07:54:48 AM
Any scans of the instruction booklet? What are the experiments in there?
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: fmofmpls on July 03, 2010, 12:34:36 PM
Does anyone have a nice pic of the Mad, Mad, Mad, Magician set? Was that the name of it? Can't remember. Similar cool-looking box art.
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: fmofmpls on July 03, 2010, 12:43:18 PM
Does anyone have a nice pic of the Mad, Mad, Mad, Magician set? Was that the name of it? Can't remember. Similar cool-looking box art.


Found a pic. Started a new thread.

http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=9740.new#new (http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=9740.new#new)
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Mike Scott on July 03, 2010, 12:43:45 PM
From the Gallery.

(http://universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/gallery/0/7_11_12_07_11_23_17.jpg)
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Barlow on September 23, 2010, 10:59:43 PM
Good God Almighty! I've never seen the inside of one of these! Great, now I gotta go find one. I'd have slain a sibling for one of those when I was a kid!  :D
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Sean on September 24, 2010, 12:21:12 AM
That's cool.
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: ballyhooligan on September 24, 2010, 03:16:14 AM
Last one of these I saw had a hole burned through the bottom of the box.. I'm sure some monster kid got his but kicked by his parents for burning a hole in the rug or the kitchen table!
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Hepcat on January 05, 2011, 05:25:06 PM
I had a Mad, Mad, Mad Scientist Laboratory as a kid. I believe my father gave it away to the snot nosed kid down the street when I went off to boarding school in grade nine. Very sad. I've wanted another one badly for decades.

 >:(
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Hepcat on April 23, 2011, 10:43:40 PM
I'll die a happy man if I can find one of these sets again before I expire.

 ;)

Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: BijouBob8mm on May 28, 2011, 10:31:00 AM
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Today it would probably be The Mad Mad Mad Meth Lab!

And it wouldn't retail for $3.00, meth or no meth.  I'd never heard of this or the Magician set.  Can't believe both of these slipped under the radar all these years.  Today, if the thing doesn't access cyberspace, most kids wouldn't want to know.  Around the holidays I saw a display of Chris Angel "Mindfreak" magic sets, which have some cool stuff in them.  As Christmas got closer and closer, it didn't look like anyone had touched them.  Finally I grabbed one up for myself.
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Hepcat on May 28, 2011, 02:46:08 PM
I'd never heard of this or the Magician set.


I take it that the Magician set never went into production. The Mad, Mad, Mad Scientist Laboratory was sold through Famous Monsters of Filmland magazine as well as through traditional retail outlets.

Around the holidays I saw a display of Chris Angel "Mindfreak" magic sets, which have some cool stuff in them.  As Christmas got closer and closer, it didn't look like anyone had touched them.  Finally I grabbed one up for myself.


This one?

(http://www.chygoing.com/UploadFiles/20101031231733790.jpg)

 ???
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: BijouBob8mm on June 02, 2011, 01:04:51 PM
That's the set.  I just learned, a few days ago, there is actually a second set with over 500 illusions:  "The Criss Angel Mindfreak Ultimate Magic Kit."  Don't know all the details about the contents, but it seems to include the 250 routines from the smaller Platinum kit.  I've also seen some illusions and various trick card decks from the Mindfreak collection sold individually.

http://shop.history.com/detail.php?p=108546&v=aetv (http://shop.history.com/detail.php?p=108546&v=aetv)

The nice thing about it is that, in addition to the usual things found in a kid's magic set, there is some pro-quality material here.  (Sponge balls, thumb tip, etc.)  An excellent series of sets are the "Magician's Apprentice" line put out by a company called Melissa and Doug:

http://www.melissaanddoug.com/dyn_search.php?q=magician%27s+apprentice (http://www.melissaanddoug.com/dyn_search.php?q=magician%27s+apprentice)

For some reason, the site now only lists three of those sets...don't know if they've dropped the Card Tricks Unshuffled set or not.  These are a bit pricey, but the quality of the material in each is top-notch and would cost you quite a bit more if you were to buy them individually at a magic shop.
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Hepcat on March 26, 2013, 03:18:41 PM
PS Did anyone as a kid try this lab set?

I did, I did! Best toy I ever had! Fabulous play value. My two best buddies squabbled with each other vying for the position of my half-brained lab assistant.

 ;D

Sadly I suspect my father disposed of it when I was packed off to boarding school for ninth grade.

 >:(

Unfortunately, those people are no longer with us.  :'(

Well a lot of people do say that this fellow Hepcat isn't all there....

 :o
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: freddie poe on March 26, 2013, 04:12:11 PM
This set possibly could be the Grail of Grails w/o doubt. On my wish list for sure!
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Monster Bob on March 26, 2013, 07:31:25 PM


There are also two different versions of this set, with different interiors and contents.
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Hepcat on March 26, 2013, 08:04:06 PM
The one I had was not exactly identical to the one pictured on the first page of this thread. Inside it was like this one:

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%202/MadScientistLab1-1_zps170325ab.jpg)

I'm wondering which of the two was/is the more common?

 ???
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: darkmonkeygod on March 27, 2013, 12:23:34 AM

There are also two different versions of this set, with different interiors and contents.

Another amazingly rare item of which there are at least two versions. Oof.
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Hepcat on March 27, 2013, 09:18:49 AM
I'm not entirely sure that this set can be called "rare". I think it probably falls into the same category as the Mars Attacks cards and the SPP monster wallets that I call "demand scarce". These items are so revered by anyone who was exposed to them as a kid that their demand for these items very quickly sops up any offerings in the present day.

 :-\
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Monster Bob on March 27, 2013, 11:16:04 AM


I would have to politely disagree, hepcat. This is an extremely rare set, along the same lines as the FM Photo Printing Set and unused Hasbro paint sets, obviously because of its "they were all used by the original owner" nature. It is rarer than a loose Head Speaker (but about the same as a boxed one), and MUCH MUCH rarer than the Horrorscope, which is often referred to as 'rare'. I went many years before even hearing of one in existence or actually seeing one in person.

Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Hepcat on March 27, 2013, 12:45:27 PM
I would have to politely disagree, hepcat. This is an extremely rare set, along the same lines as the FM Photo Printing Set and unused Hasbro paint sets, obviously because of its "they were all used by the original owner" nature.

Yes, you're probably correct. The usage factor might indeed be the key. But then again I've had a lot of success over the years finding unused Kenner Presto Sparkle Paint Sets, unbuilt model kits, never played board games, etc....

 :-\

I went many years before even hearing of one in existence or actually seeing one in person.

So then what's the story behind the variants?

 ???
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Monster Bob on March 27, 2013, 04:15:48 PM


The main components (the vials, dropper, cup, etc.) are the same, but one has more goodies in it than the other, a red tablet of "Mystic Paper" being one of them, plus the box insert is somewhat different- same graphics, but the way the insert is diecut is different to accommodate the different/extra pieces, and the way they lay inside the large box.

I also seem to remember Toy Scouts having a smaller, "plain box" mail-in version at one point, with no graphics whatsoever, and instead of the little vials, the chemicals came in little pouches with the names on them (little rip-open pouches that I think were attached to each other, like they would pack headache powders or something). The chemical names "Mummy Dust" etc. were printed on the pouches. The "plain" version was BOR-ing, and held no interest for me at all. Half the toy is the fantastic box, IMHO.
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Hepcat on March 27, 2013, 07:19:17 PM

The main components (the vials, dropper, cup, etc.) are the same, but one has more goodies in it than the other, a red tablet of "Mystic Paper" being one of them, plus the box insert is somewhat different- same graphics, but the way the insert is diecut is different to accommodate the different/extra pieces, and the way they lay inside the large box.

Hmmmm. You know I don't actually remember "Mystic Paper" in my set, but perhaps I've just forgotten.

I also seem to remember Toy Scouts having a smaller, "plain box" mail-in version at one point....

Mail-in? Do you mean mail order?

Half the toy is the fantastic box, IMHO.

I agree! When I saw that box at the hobby shop on Seven Mile Road in Detroit, I absolutely had to have it. A mad scientist was what I always aspired to be as a kid.

 ;)
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Monster Bob on March 27, 2013, 09:58:27 PM


Yes, mail order.
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Hepcat on March 28, 2013, 12:18:28 PM
The main components (the vials, dropper, cup, etc.) are the same, but one has more goodies in it than the other, a red tablet of "Mystic Paper" being one of them, plus the box insert is somewhat different- same graphics, but the way the insert is diecut is different to accommodate the different/extra pieces, and the way they lay inside the large box.


Right you are! Here are a couple of comparison pictures I found. First the set I probably had:

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%202/MadScientistLab1-1_zps170325ab.jpg)

And then the more elaborate one from the first page of this thread:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4050/4562075583_9cfa4cffaf_b.jpg)

I'm wondering whether that's a mixing tray on the top left of the bottom picture.

 cl:)
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Monolith on March 30, 2013, 12:30:13 PM

I would have to politely disagree, hepcat. This is an extremely rare set, along the same lines as the FM Photo Printing Set and unused Hasbro paint sets, obviously because of its "they were all used by the original owner" nature. It is rarer than a loose Head Speaker (but about the same as a boxed one), and MUCH MUCH rarer than the Horrorscope, which is often referred to as 'rare'. I went many years before even hearing of one in existence or actually seeing one in person.


The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory looks really cool. I never had one, but I do have a print frame from the above mentioned Famous Monsters Photo Printing set. My brother had the set, the frame is all I have left of it, though. I've had it since the '60's. I wish I had the complete set. You can see it in the lower left of this photo. For years I wondered what the complete set looked like. I never saw one in person, just in photo's.

(http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab97/monolith_06/sc0e7ab7f8.jpg)



Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Monster Bob on March 30, 2013, 12:46:01 PM
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I'm wondering whether that's a mixing tray on the top left of the bottom picture.

 cl:)


As memory serves (I have this set but it is bagged up and I'm very lazy) that is a heat-proof tray or something for spent matches, etc. I think. It is just a foil lined cardboard square.
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Hepcat on January 05, 2015, 09:55:55 AM
I saw one of these mad mad mad labs at an antique and collectables show in California about fifteen or so years ago.

What was the asking price at the time?

 ???
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Monolith on January 07, 2015, 01:08:44 AM
What was the asking price at the time?

 ???

I don't remember the exact price, but I think it was right around one thousand dollars. I was impressed because I never saw one in person before, and bummed because It was out of my price range.
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Mcdee on January 14, 2015, 12:18:55 AM
The one on ebay just sold for $2275.00 http://www.ebay.com/itm/231441998460?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT#ht_547wt_1366 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/231441998460?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT#ht_547wt_1366)
Mcdee
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: BijouBob8mm on April 15, 2015, 10:24:08 AM
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I do have a print frame from the above mentioned Famous Monsters Photo Printing set. My brother had the set, the frame is all I have left of it, though.

One of our former UMA members, the late Tom Triman, had two of the FM Photo Printing sets.  One of them was open and used from back in the day, but his second one was still sealed.  Don't remember what he told me about how he came to have that second MIB set...maybe bought back in the day and simply never opened.  He also still had his old Horrorscope viewer.
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Hepcat on April 15, 2015, 11:53:59 AM
What was Tom Triman's posting handle?

 ???

Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: BijouBob8mm on April 15, 2015, 01:03:03 PM
I thought Tom posted under his own name...at least he tended to do that on most boards.
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Hepcat on February 23, 2017, 10:49:41 AM
So who else owns one of these sets then?

 ???
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: YoungestMonsterKid on February 23, 2017, 06:30:58 PM
*Sigh* If only kids these days could have kits like these....
there's lots of kits super similar to this
what do you mean?
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Hepcat on February 24, 2017, 12:35:24 PM
Including the boss cool Tyco Dr. Dreadful Food Labs of course!

(http://i68.tinypic.com/qqy99k.jpg)

Scarey1scd started a good thread on these:

http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=28822.msg476812#msg476812 (http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=28822.msg476812#msg476812)

 8)
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Hepcat on February 24, 2017, 01:16:03 PM
there's lots of kits super similar to this

Can you provide some other examples?

 ???
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: YoungestMonsterKid on February 24, 2017, 04:20:15 PM
Can you provide some other examples?

 ???

I know I had some when I was younger
couldn't name any off the top of my head, though
so I just looked up some right now
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/shopping?q=tbn:ANd9GcQuIAzNWKZwMqEf53s2x_6CvHQ586BnRr-45pXaArMjq3YRcaU&usqp=CAY)
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/shopping?q=tbn:ANd9GcRJAwsuS5umfkfz23u1fpaOKuRuELxDYgvMqo8as9iU33xSiKJ6&usqp=CAY)
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/2a/d8/1c/2ad81c69bd4d35029e759536427e71e2.jpg)
(http://www.thetoyshop.com/medias/?context=bWFzdGVyfGltYWdlc3w3MTE5MnxpbWFnZS9qcGVnfGltYWdlcy84ODIwNjY3OTQwODk0LmpwZ3wt)
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Hepcat on February 25, 2017, 01:51:50 PM
Those sets are all fantastic! While their box art doesn't even come close to that on the Mad, Mad, Mad Scientist Laboratory, the addition of glow-in-the-dark and edible properties certainly took the play value of the sets a level higher.

Any youngster interested in the important things in life, e.g. alchemy, necromancy, madness, freaking out one's kid sister etc, clearly had the toy avenues in more recent years to provide him with plenty of opportunity.

 8)
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: BijouBob8mm on March 06, 2017, 01:26:45 PM
I love seeing these great old sets.  I recall seeing something at a local toy shop (owned by the same family for several decades) a couple of Christmas seasons back.  It was part of a nice-sized display of magic sets and magic tricks.  I want to say it was called something along the lines of The Magic of Science, but won't swear I've got the name right.  Basically, it showed how science could be used to create optical illusions, chemical reactions, etc..  Tried looking online, and came up with a couple of possibilities:

https://www.walmart.com/ip/25575587?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&adid=22222222227018493605&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=40944292832&wl4=pla-78883686752&wl5=9016549&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=online&wl12=25575587&wl13=&veh=sem (https://www.walmart.com/ip/25575587?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&adid=22222222227018493605&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=40944292832&wl4=pla-78883686752&wl5=9016549&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=online&wl12=25575587&wl13=&veh=sem)

http://www.target.com/p/4m-showtime-science-magic-kit/-/A-51633225 (http://www.target.com/p/4m-showtime-science-magic-kit/-/A-51633225)

Next time I'm in the toy shop, I'll look to see if it was either of those, or something else.  (Maybe take the cell phone for a shot of the box, if they still have any left.  They tend to have a pretty healthy selection of magic kits/tricks.)

A local antique mall has an old Mandrake the Magician magic kit for sale.  Forget what they're asking for it but, except for the sponge rubber rabbits, it appeared to be in pretty good condition.  (The sponge bunnies appeared to have dry rot setting in.)
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Hepcat on March 07, 2017, 10:44:49 AM
This has been a popular one in craft stores the last few years:

(https://www.deserres.ca/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/7/8/78097_1_OIDSC2E_2.jpg)

 8)
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Hepcat on November 08, 2017, 12:34:25 AM
Does anyone know anything about this repro of the Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory that was sold on Ebay in June 2016?

Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory - Worthpoint (https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/mad-mad-mad-scientist-laboratory-1965-1819399460)

 ???

Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Hepcat on November 08, 2017, 02:55:53 PM
So evidently the repro Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory pictured in the Worthpoint link was listed and sold by Samjo123:

http://www.ebay.ph/itm/THE-MAD-MAD-MAD-SCIENTIST-LABORATORY-1965-FAMOUS-MONSTERS-OF-FILMLAND-CAPTAIN-CO-/231773305671 (http://www.ebay.ph/itm/THE-MAD-MAD-MAD-SCIENTIST-LABORATORY-1965-FAMOUS-MONSTERS-OF-FILMLAND-CAPTAIN-CO-/231773305671)

His listing does not specify by whom the set was reproduced. I'm guessing that he himself may have had the set reproduced since he has previously been involved in reproducing other monster related items.

Like those of many sellers, his descriptions often contain an element of puffery. In this case he states that "...the Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory sold in 1965 only through the back pages of Famous Monsters of Filmland Magazine." That's just not true. I bought mine at Seven Mile Hobby Shop(?) in Detroit in the summer of 1964.

 cl:)
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Monster Bob on November 08, 2017, 04:19:09 PM
The Mad, Mad, Mad, Magician Set was produced. I picked one up this Summer. Even more rare than the M,M,M, Laboratory set. It exists!
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Hepcat on November 08, 2017, 04:55:37 PM
It exists!

 :o

Dare we hope for a picture or two?

 ???
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Monster Bob on November 08, 2017, 05:27:36 PM
Canít seem to post pics here. See me on facebook...
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Mike Scott on November 08, 2017, 06:21:24 PM
Dare we hope for a picture or two?


There's one in the archives.

(http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=108)
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Monster Bob on November 08, 2017, 10:31:57 PM
Thatís the unique promotional  poster used to sell the idea  of the set to Aurora. I have the MMM Scientist Lab one. These two pieces came from the collection of Mort Kunstler himself, and were  personally signed by him.
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Mike Scott on November 08, 2017, 10:33:59 PM
Thatís the unique promotional  poster used to sell the idea  of the set to Aurora.

Thanks for the info! I thought it was the box top.
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Monster Bob on November 08, 2017, 10:36:57 PM
Same art- you can see the two folds if you look close. Folded in thirds vertically.
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Mike Scott on November 08, 2017, 11:14:02 PM
Same art- you can see the two folds if you look close.

Oh yeah!
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Hepcat on November 09, 2017, 10:24:56 AM
Thatís the unique promotional  poster used to sell the idea of the set to Aurora. I have the MMM Scientist Lab one.

Aurora? How was Aurora involved? The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory was a HomeLab product.

 ???

These two pieces came from the collection of Mort Kunstler himself, and were  personally signed by him.

Approximately when did he let them go? I know he no longer had the original art in 2008-09 because I contacted his office and inquired about the original art at the time.

 :-\

Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Monster Bob on November 09, 2017, 11:39:32 AM
Home Lab was a Subsidiary of Aurora.
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Monster Bob on November 09, 2017, 11:41:10 AM
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Approximately when did he let them go?

About 1989/1990, I think.
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Hepcat on November 09, 2017, 12:03:54 PM
So evidently the repro Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory pictured in the Worthpoint link was listed and sold by Samjo123:


It's interesting to compare a few pics of originals of the Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory:

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%202/MadScientistLab1-1_zps170325ab.jpg)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4050/4562075583_9cfa4cffaf_b.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3536/4562075781_3a1eba48cb_b.jpg)

To a couple of Samjo123's repro:

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/IvgAAOSwv-NWYOYa/s-l1600.jpg)

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/mBQAAOSw8-tWYOYk/s-l1600.jpg)

Now I can understand the chemicals and some of the other lab accessories not being the actual ones or exact replicas. I'm puzzled though as to why Samjo123 did not reproduce the labels on the test tubes. Moreover why was the chemical stain above Monster's Murk not Photoshopped away before the repro was made?

 ???
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Maceo1 on November 09, 2017, 12:29:28 PM
Home Lab was a Subsidiary of Aurora.

Interesting. I am making a catalog, could you verify that information please. Thanks.
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Monster Bob on November 09, 2017, 12:40:28 PM
Talk to Kunstler, I guess.
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Maceo1 on November 09, 2017, 12:54:14 PM
Talk to Kunstler, I guess.
Is that an answer ? Mort and his family were very good friends of my Dad. He was freelancing back in the early days and was commissioned by many companies.
But this has no bearing on whether Aurora and Home Lab (Physio-Chem Corp. ) were ever connected. If you have any documentation to back up that info, I would appreciate it.  Otherwise...
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Mike Scott on November 09, 2017, 03:26:11 PM
The Mad Mad Mad Magician set. Missing a few pieces.


(http://imageshack.com/a/img922/1039/cL39Ua.jpg)

(http://imageshack.com/a/img924/3701/lqh8XA.jpg)

(http://imageshack.com/a/img922/8527/zwIYXX.jpg)

(http://imageshack.com/a/img922/6476/Md35CK.jpg)

(http://imageshack.com/a/img924/3659/HDfzGG.jpg)
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Monster Bob on November 09, 2017, 03:53:17 PM
Is that an answer ? Mort and his family were very good friends of my Dad. He was freelancing back in the early days and was commissioned by many companies.
But this has no bearing on whether Aurora and Home Lab (Physio-Chem Corp. ) were ever connected. If you have any documentation to back up that info, I would appreciate it.  Otherwise...


Well, thatís great, and yes, that is my answer. Mort Kunstler was the source, in his exact words.
Hard to believe you find it hard to believe, just looking at the sets. They reek Golden Age Aurora. Moreso than Aurora Monster Scenes even remotely do.

These sets were 90% thrown together with parts bought from other companies that made parts for science sets and magic sets, to supply companies that wanted to make....science and magic sets. The little labeled powder bottles are unique (but are in all sets), but most of the contents are generic, so missing a couple of generic pieces means nothing. Easily and cheaply replaceable.
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Maceo1 on November 09, 2017, 04:59:29 PM
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Mort Kunstler was the source, in his exact words.
Hard to believe you find it hard to believe, just looking at the sets.

Do not recall stating that I find it "hard to believe". I was just looking for some proof of your statement that "Home Lab was a Subsidiary of Aurora". Do not care for making assumptions, word of mouth, or guesswork.  For a definitive catalog of particular toy companies such as Ideal, Aurora and Emenee, it would need some paperwork to document it, if it is true. So far in the Aurora company history files, it is not found mentioned yet.
Thanks for thinking about it though.
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Monster Bob on November 09, 2017, 05:49:12 PM
I always thought it was general knowledge, but I guess not.
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Hepcat on November 13, 2017, 12:54:34 PM
I'd never heard that Homelab was an Aurora subsidiary either. Worse yet I can't find any other reference that this was so

Mort Kunstler was the source, in his exact words.

...just looking at the sets. They reek Golden Age Aurora.

The Mad Mad Mad sets do indeed reek of Golden Age Aurora. Maybe Mort Kunstler was mistaken for precisely that reason.

 :-\
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Monster Bob on November 13, 2017, 11:33:38 PM
Pffft.
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: BijouBob8mm on June 26, 2018, 10:38:04 AM
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These sets were 90% thrown together with parts bought from other companies that made parts for science sets and magic sets, to supply companies that wanted to make....science and magic sets.

Had to smile to myself as I read that.  To this day, just about any magic set you find in a toy store will still be made up of about 90% of the same tricks magic sets from the 1940s (on up) contained.  Even some of the more upscale sets, such as Chris Angel's "Mind Freak" magic sets, contain those classic plastic pieces with a few new twists tossed in.
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Monster Bob on June 28, 2018, 07:07:25 PM
Yow. If you donít believe the words from the mouth of the guy that did the box art, please, get out of the hobby and donít be a schlong.
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Hepcat on July 09, 2018, 10:39:22 AM
If you donít believe the words from the mouth of the guy that did the box art....

Show me where Mort Kunstler is quoted.

...please, get out of the hobby and donít be a schlong.

What the hell? This is a discussion board! And you're telling people to leave simply because they disagree with you about something?

 ::)

Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Hepcat on June 23, 2019, 08:16:03 AM
I'd never heard that Homelab was an Aurora subsidiary either. Worse yet I can't find any other reference that this was so

The Mad Mad Mad sets do indeed reek of Golden Age Aurora. Maybe Mort Kunstler was mistaken for precisely that reason.


Interesting. So what we know for sure was that Homelab was a subsidiary or brand name of Physio-Chem Corporation in 1965:

(http://imageshack.com/a/img922/6476/Md35CK.jpg)

(http://imageshack.com/a/img924/3659/HDfzGG.jpg)

Given that the Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory would have appealed to precisely the same potential buyers as the Aurora monster model kits, perhaps Physio-Chem/Homelab arranged for Aurora to make the Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory available through Aurora's own distribution network the same way that Universal Pictures distributed the monster flicks of Toho and Hammer Film Studios in the United States.

This could explain why Mort Kunstler might have gotten the impression that Homelab was an Aurora subsidiary.

 :-\



Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Hepcat on July 03, 2019, 04:05:25 PM
Here are a couple of variants of the very cool ad for the Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory:

(https://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/General%20Album%203001/Mad%20Scientist%20ad_zpsw4dzrlyb.jpg)

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/Comics/26-10-201162528PM.jpg)

The second one I scanned from my own copy of the 1966 Famous Monsters of Filmland Yearbook.

 cl:)
Title: Big Frankie box similaroty / Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: drmark7 on July 03, 2019, 11:29:45 PM
The "reeking if Aurora" is mentioned, but not specifically how much the MAD MAGICIAN box seems to echo the GIGANTIC FRANKENSTEIN aka "Big Frankie" model box. Right down to some fonts and placement of the main titles.

See it here:
https://www.amazon.com/Gigantic-Frankenstein-Frankie-Moebius-Models/dp/B0018RWP9I (https://www.amazon.com/Gigantic-Frankenstein-Frankie-Moebius-Models/dp/B0018RWP9I)

Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Hepcat on July 05, 2019, 10:48:46 AM
The Gigantic Frankenstein is perhaps now the single most coveted Aurora figure kit. Quite simply at a suggested retail price of $4.98 in 1964, it did not sell well. Few were therefore made thus leaving one very difficult to find these days.

 :(
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Mike Scott on July 05, 2019, 11:01:34 AM
Quite simply at a suggested retail price of $4.98 in 1964, it did not sell well.

You could have gotten the Frankenstein, Dracula, Mummy, Wolf Man and Creature kits for that price!  :)
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Hepcat on July 05, 2019, 12:53:42 PM
Actually since their original issue price was $0.98, you could have gotten all of:

Phantom of the Opera
Dracula
Mummy
Wolf Man
Creature

for that price!

And of course a Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory was less than 59.9% of the price.

 ;)
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Mike Scott on July 05, 2019, 02:57:54 PM
Is there an echo in here?  ;D
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Hepcat on July 05, 2019, 03:37:37 PM
The Phantom kit had more pieces than the Frankenstein kit and was therefore the better value!

 ;)

Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Mike Scott on July 05, 2019, 06:17:01 PM
The Phantom kit had more pieces than the Frankenstein kit and was therefore the better value!

 ;)

That's like saying the 4' painting is better than the 3' painting.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: BijouBob8mm on August 28, 2019, 02:18:16 PM
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That's like saying the 4' painting is better than the 3' painting.

And then there's that 6' painting of Vampirella.  (OK, OK, it's just a poster and not the actual painting...do you know how hard it was to hide THAT from the folks?)
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Hepcat on August 28, 2019, 02:55:16 PM
Were you afraid your dad would confiscate it for his own use?

 ???
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Mike Scott on August 28, 2019, 03:11:23 PM
(OK, OK, it's just a poster and not the actual painting...do you know how hard it was to hide THAT from the folks?)

Did they only allow original art in the house?
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: BijouBob8mm on December 10, 2019, 11:35:53 AM
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Did they only allow original art in the house?


"I don't know if it's art, but I know what I like."   ;)

If only Lucy Lawless lived in my neighborhood when I was a student filmmaker!  We'd still be making Vampirella movies!!!  LOL
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: Hepcat on March 23, 2020, 10:21:00 AM
Given that the Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory would have appealed to precisely the same potential buyers as the Aurora monster model kits, perhaps Physio-Chem/Homelab arranged for Aurora to make the Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory available through Aurora's own distribution network....

This could explain why Mort Kunstler might have gotten the impression that Homelab was an Aurora subsidiary.

The fact that Homelab was located in Westbury on Long Island basically just down the road from Aurora's headquarters in Brooklyn lends further credence to the possibility/likelihood of such an arrangement.

 :)
Title: Re: The Mad Mad Mad Scientist Laboratory
Post by: mantus on September 11, 2020, 04:47:31 PM
I had this Lab set when I was 10 y.o.. 1965.  I never forgot it.  I loved it - sitting in the basement mixing up all this stuff.  Part of the fun was the stories that went with each experiment.  The narratives were borne out in each experiment - turning "water" into "blood" - that kind of stuff.  I would love to see the Lab book and reread those stories.  The whole concept was well thought out.  It must have been cause 55 years later, I still remember it.  The cover art is perfect.  Mark