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Title: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Gillfan on January 12, 2019, 06:01:43 PM
This article is both informative and depressing.

http://nautil.us/issue/68/context/how-well-forget-john-lennon (http://nautil.us/issue/68/context/how-well-forget-john-lennon)
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: aura of foreboding on January 12, 2019, 06:51:51 PM
Universal would have to use its intellectual property in order to avoid this from happening.  I say, they sell it off to a smaller company who can better handle the material and keep it in the public eye.
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Sir Masksalot on January 12, 2019, 08:27:19 PM
There are more ways millennials can access history, cinematic and otherwise, than ever before.
That they choose not to avail themselves of these resources is their choice ... and their loss.
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: marsattacks666 on January 12, 2019, 10:28:03 PM
While I am surprised that the twenty year old student did not know the song-Imagine. Elvis' popularity is not viable any longer. I was eleven
when Elvis died. That same year Groucho Marx, died three days later. Yet, because Elvis died. He (Elvis) received so much press. Leaving Marx a blurb at that moment.

Now as an eleven year old kid, that made me angry. Marx is and was extremely talented and intelligent. Elvis....whatever.
I don't feel collecting pop culture will fade anytime soon. Judging by millennial YouTube'rs and their affinity and love of pop culture, especially Horror.
The collecting bug has flourished. Inundated with collecting videos, movie reviews, vinyl reviews, Horror masks, toys...etc....etc.
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Jimi Bat on January 13, 2019, 12:32:14 AM
Did anyone read the replies to the article. I was somewhat taken aback by some of the comments on Lennon. I mean when Imagine came out no one batted an eye but over the years that song has pi##ed off so many people its not even funny. I really don't understand how some people can be so offended by it.
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Mike Scott on January 13, 2019, 01:05:42 AM
Clip from a classic WKRP episode on censorship that featured "Imagine".

https://youtu.be/QQ2OSoWI9eU
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: the_last_gunslinger on January 13, 2019, 06:18:56 PM
Did anyone read the replies to the article. I was somewhat taken aback by some of the comments on Lennon. I mean when Imagine came out no one batted an eye but over the years that song has pi##ed off so many people its not even funny. I really don't understand how some people can be so offended by it.

Count me among those that absolutely hate that song. For starters, it's just not very artistic. It's got a simple melody with even simpler lyrics.  Honestly, if an elementary school teacher assigned her class to write an essay entitled "How I'd fix the world," I imagine it'd read similar to Lennon's song.

 Additionally, he openly advocates for Communism while he himself owned many homes and was worth millions. Then he tells us to imagine a world with 'no heaven, religion, nations, possessions, nothing to fight or die for.' My question is, if such an existence is realized, what do we have to live for?

John Lennon was imagining a world where everyone got along, which is fine. I'm all for that, but when you imply that we can obtain utopia by abolishing the ideals many hold dear, it's not hard to see why people have a visceral reaction to it. For the life of me, I can't understand why it's so darn popular.

Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Mike Scott on January 13, 2019, 06:50:47 PM
(https://imageshack.com/a/img924/9062/fBgl4P.png)
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: aura of foreboding on January 13, 2019, 08:13:23 PM
Did anyone read the replies to the article. I was somewhat taken aback by some of the comments on Lennon. I mean when Imagine came out no one batted an eye but over the years that song has pi##ed off so many people its not even funny. I really don't understand how some people can be so offended by it.

What happened is the '80s came along.     
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Jimi Bat on January 13, 2019, 09:02:26 PM
I think the main point of the song is to Imagine life without want or pain or fear. Nothing more and nothing less. He's not promoting Communism or implying you can obtain utopia through the censorship of ideas. He would be one of the last people to support censorship.
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: marsattacks666 on January 13, 2019, 10:05:39 PM
Lennon's ideology was a contradiction. He wanted peace among Men. Yet it has been documented Lennon had raging temper. Great example of peace.

Really, Lennon was an overrated Rock Star.
So.....f*** him. I did not shed a tear when he passed away. Although it was tragic how he died. In truth. Lennon is just another person who the media and his management portrayed the mystique of singer/songwriter. The Beatles, included.

The song Imagine is boring and not a great song.

Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Jimi Bat on January 14, 2019, 02:44:30 AM
Wow, I guess I really don't belong here. I'll miss this place.
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Mike Scott on January 14, 2019, 03:25:59 AM
Wow, I guess I really don't belong here. I'll miss this place.

I have all of Lennon's albums and I'm not going anywhere.
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: marsattacks666 on January 14, 2019, 04:14:04 PM
Wow, I guess I really don't belong here. I'll miss this place.

Like all music; it is subjective and I was not being subversive towards Lennons' legendary status. Just my opinion. Lennon is not my cup o' tea, either is Elvis.

That said. Everyone who is a member of the UMA belongs, here. To have fun and discuss many topics. Whether it be Monsters, Music or etc.
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: zombiehorror on January 14, 2019, 07:31:08 PM
I blame it on parents.  My 11 year old daughter wanted a record player for Christmas and one of the albums she wanted to go with it was Elvis....and my kids damn sure know who the Universal monsters are and the actors that played them.  They also know other music and movies, from the 20's, 30's, 40's, 50's, 60's, etc. they may not like all of it but they at least got exposed to it.
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Hepcat on February 16, 2019, 01:53:27 PM
Count me among those that absolutely hate that song(Imagine). For starters, it's just not very artistic. It's got a simple melody with even simpler lyrics.

I don't mind the tune. I find it quite pleasant.

Honestly, if an elementary school teacher assigned her class to write an essay entitled "How I'd fix the world," I imagine it'd read similar to Lennon's song.

Very, very true. The lyrics are insipid - which of course may be par for the course when it comes to pop music. The problem arises in that they purport to be meaningful when they're just vapid and sophomoric.

Simply because they're popular entertainers and thus have a wide following, rock stars, movie stars and people in the entertainment business in general seem to think that they have meaningful insights to offer when it comes to the political and otherwise important issues of the day. That they may have no education/training outside their very narrow niche doesn't seem to deter them from assuming that their pronouncements must be somehow "important".

When it comes to rock stars, movie stars, professional athletes, etc, my considered reaction is "Oh shut up and play. I'm not paying good money for your worldview or any other half-baked opinions outside of your narrow (and actually trivial) area of expertise." How any intelligent person could possibly take the pronouncements of these pop stars seriously is beyond me.

 ::)
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Mike Scott on February 16, 2019, 02:34:26 PM
Honestly, if an elementary school teacher assigned her class to write an essay entitled "How I'd fix the world," I imagine it'd read similar to Lennon's song.

Well then, surly that happened, more than once. So, where are all those hit songs?
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Hepcat on February 16, 2019, 03:30:29 PM
Honestly, if an elementary school teacher assigned her class to write an essay entitled "How I'd fix the world," I imagine it'd read similar to Lennon's song.

Hmmmmm. On second thought that may be exactly why the song was thought by so many to be "meaningful". Consider the target market for pop music back in the seventies.

 ;D
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Mord on February 16, 2019, 08:31:53 PM
I don't mind the tune. I find it quite pleasant.

Very, very true. The lyrics are insipid - which of course may be par for the course when it comes to pop music. The problem arises in that they purport to be meaningful when they're just vapid and sophomoric.

Simply because they're popular entertainers and thus have a wide following, rock stars, movie stars and people in the entertainment business in general seem to think that they have meaningful insights to offer when it comes to the political and otherwise important issues of the day. That they may have no education/training outside their very narrow niche doesn't seem to deter them from assuming that their pronouncements must be somehow "important".

 ::)
You really should be listening to instrumentals. We live in a democracy (kinda), everyone's opinion makes it work. Maybe youre referring to your, rather bland, taste in music. I definitely think lyrics matter. Just because some people don't agree with Lennon's world view doesn't invalidate it. Many people trash "Imagine" because it doesn't agree with their political views or because it trashes religion (fine with me). I'm not a Beatles fan (except the White Album) and I'm not a big Lennon fan (except the brilliant "Mother" lp), so I'm not sticking up for my "heartthrobs". Lyrics would be an irritant, if they were vapid like pre-Beatles 60s music.
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: the_last_gunslinger on February 17, 2019, 02:42:05 PM
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Simply because they're popular entertainers and thus have a wide following, rock stars, movie stars and people in the entertainment business in general seem to think that they have meaningful insights to offer when it comes to the political and otherwise important issues of the day. That they may have no education/training outside their very narrow niche doesn't seem to deter them from assuming that their pronouncements must be somehow "important".

I think a lot of that can be chalked up to the fact that celebrities live lives wholly detached from the real world. Their existence is one where they have millions of fans hanging on every word they say, non stop media  coverage for everything they do, while getting paid outrageous amounts of money because of their ability to entertain us. It's no wonder they think their opinions matter. As a society, we treat them as if they do.
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When it comes to rock stars, movie stars, professional athletes, etc, my considered reaction is "Shut up and play. I'm not paying good money for your worldview or any other half-baked opinions outside of your narrow (and actually trivial) area of expertise." How any intelligent person could possibly take the pronouncements of these pop stars seriously is beyond me.

I once became embroiled in a heated political debate on the Stephen King Message Forums where I held a minority opinion. One of the people with whom I was debating seriously used as an argument that "even Stephen King agrees with me," as if King, by virtue of being a popular novelist, is somehow more knowledgeable about politics than I am. This just feeds into my first point. Celebrities think their opinions matter because to millions of their adoring fans, they do.
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: the_last_gunslinger on February 17, 2019, 02:54:31 PM

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Well then, surly that happened, more than once. So, where are all those hit songs?

They probably don't know how to put them to music ;D

Seriously, I don't know if I possess the requisite expertise to determine how or why certain songs actually become hits and why others don't.  If I were going to fathom a guess in this particular instance (as unsolicited as it may be) I'd say it's because John Lennon was already a known commodity, a member of a band that became a global sensation, someone who already had a huge following that would guarantee any song he produces would be well received.


If "Imagine" had been recorded by a no-name artist, I doubt it would be held in such high esteem. I personally don't think anyone would have gotten famous on the merits of that song alone.

It's kind of like when Stephen King became successful, he became curious if he was just that good or if there was any luck at play. So he created his alter ego, Richard Bachman, and wrote several novels under that name. Despite being written by the best-selling author on earth, let's say they weren't flying off the shelves. And the only difference between Stephen King's novels and Richard Bachman's was the name printed on the front cover. Once it was discovered that King and Bachman were one in the same, all those Bachman books rocketed to the best-seller chart.
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Mord on February 17, 2019, 03:26:09 PM
 I think the fuss over "Imagine" is usually a political issue. Conservatives hate his world view, liberals embrace it. There are far worse songs out there to single out, even in Lennon' s arsenal. Why not pick on really sh*tty lyrics like "I Want to Hold Your Hand" or "She Loves You (Yeah, Yeah, Yeah)"? They're not political. I feel the same way about redneck music...cant stand it or its "values".
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Hepcat on February 17, 2019, 11:09:18 PM
You really should be listening to instrumentals.


Here are three really good ones I can recommend:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaerDa_81mQ# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaerDa_81mQ#)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjgjoSsOvi4# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjgjoSsOvi4#)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HClX2s8A9IE# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HClX2s8A9IE#)

We live in a democracy (kinda)....


Actually if I'm right about your locale we both do, no kindas about it.

...everyone's opinion makes it work.


It sounds to me as if you're talking about freedom of speech. Democracy per se is simply majority rule and doesn't itself guarantee any of the rights such as freedom of speech that we take for granted. These must be protected from the vicissitudes of popular opinion by something like a Constitution which sets out limitations on government powers.

Maybe youre referring to your, rather bland, taste in music.


Given that my taste in music extends from the top forty hits of the late fifties to certain present day selections and crosses multiple genres, it's much broader and in that respect much less bland than your own.

...I'm not a Beatles fan (except the White Album)....


And that's precisely a case in point. The White Album is the only Beatles' album that I really don't like.  Which of us has the broader taste in the Beatles' catalogue of music therefore? And for whatever reason the broadness of my musical taste seems to annoy you. This I don't understand.

Just because some people don't agree with Lennon's world view doesn't invalidate it.


On that point anyway we agree.

Many people trash "Imagine" because it doesn't agree with their political views....


I just find it annoying when a rock star thinks he's a learned scholar or someone with particular insight just because he's sold a lot of records. "Stop being such a windbag John and sing me a song. It said 'concert' not 'political rally' on the ticket I bought."

Many people trash "Imagine" because ... it trashes religion (fine with me).


Fine with me too. One of the few things that interest me even less than religion though is Lennon's views on religion. Like I say, he was just a rock star.

 ;)
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Hepcat on February 17, 2019, 11:32:51 PM
I think the fuss over "Imagine" is usually a political issue.

Precisely.

Why not pick on really sh*tty lyrics like "I Want to Hold Your Hand" or "She Loves You (Yeah, Yeah, Yeah)"? They're not political.

You've answered your own question right there. It's because they're not political.

I feel the same way about redneck music...cant stand it or its "values".

Huh? What's redneck music? And how can music (without lyrics) have values? Can you provide examples?

In general I've always thought that only sentient beings can have "values".

 ???
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Mord on February 18, 2019, 12:16:36 AM
Yeez, you over-intellectualise everything.  I think you live in Canada, you guys have a decent leader. As for Democracy being rule by majority...you're absolutely right. We had 3 million more people voting for the candidate that lost. Explain that. I want my songwriters to write about the world they live in. This "shut up and play" bullsh*t is just noise from people who don't like the message. Tough sh*t...go listen to your complacent easy listening. Wait...why are we criticising John f*cking Lennon when Katy Perry, Justin Bieber, Kanje West, are still alive and making crappy music we could really be taking apart. I think musicians have a much more expansive world view. They travel all over the world and are more worldly than most people. I can understand why Mars A666 said what he did about Lennon. He is a punker
 (like myself). I reacted cavalierly to Lennon's death, also. Punks have always had a disdain for the Beatles. The Clash famously proclaimed "no Elvis, Beatles, or the Rolling Stones" on their first single. It was a knee- jerk reaction that I now regret. I was just reacting to his latest albums. I missed the angry Lennon. I demand social commentary from my singers.  I'm not going to listen to another sappy, sugary love song. Sorry that my writing is haphazard, but I'm drained. Let's just say our musical tastes are not compatible. I like lyrics.
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Mord on February 18, 2019, 12:31:33 AM
 Btw, my definition of redneck music is the old "pick-up trucks, beer, and loathing" associated mainly with country music. I'm not playing into your "gotcha" semantics. Music carries the same values as the person singing and writing. You like Lightfoot, I prefer Dylan. Only one of them is a Nobel laureate.
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Mord on February 18, 2019, 02:18:26 AM
I think the main point of the song is to Imagine life without want or pain or fear. Nothing more and nothing less. He's not promoting Communism or implying you can obtain utopia through the censorship of ideas. He would be one of the last people to support censorship.
Absolutely! The people who have tried to demean the song are the same people that try to pull books out of schools and libraries. Mark Twain, Oscar Wilde, etc. seem to piss them off as well. "Just write your books and songs, but make sure they don't say anything of substance". There are so many things to thank the Beatles for. Rock and roll was on life support until the British invasion.  The Kinks ,the Who, the Stones etc broke the doors down as soon as the Beatles loosened the locks.
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Hepcat on February 18, 2019, 11:01:01 AM
Yeez, you over-intellectualise everything.

I wouldn't be prompted to intellectualize anything in this case if you hadn't made a completely out-of-the-blue remark about my taste in music being "bland".

Meanwhile you run off in a dozen different directions and touch upon multifold unrelated topics within a single paragraph any of which could be subjects of their own thread. What are you trying to do, overwhelm my capacity to respond?

So therefore I'll comment on them individually at my leisure. I'll say only this right now:

I can understand why Mars A666 said what he did about Lennon.

Yet you don't seem to understand his disgust for Lennon's "spoiled rock-star syndrome", a sentiment of his with which I specifically agreed in my first post.

He is a punker  (like myself).

I give Marsattacks full credit though for having pretty broad taste in music overall. He's not prone to sneering at music that may be "before his time".

Later....

 cl:)
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Mord on February 18, 2019, 01:10:15 PM
 I am shocked that you gave me the  top hat emogie. I am never talking to you again, ruffian. Don't even try to apologise, I'm not having any of it.

Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Mike Scott on February 18, 2019, 10:51:06 PM
I am shocked that you gave me the  top hat emogie.

Don't you recognize "Coffin Joe"?
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Mord on February 18, 2019, 11:09:15 PM
Don't you recognize "Coffin Joe"?
Oh, I thought it was the Monopoly guy.
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Hepcat on February 19, 2019, 01:04:21 PM
I think you live in Canada, you guys have a decent leader.

Justin Trudeau is the least qualified and worst Prime Minister Canada has had in 125 years or more. He basically got elected to that position because his father was the still popular (among many) Pierre Elliott Trudeau.

Meanwhile Andrew Scheer, a candidate I suspect to hold fundamentalist family-value type political beliefs, came from well behind and nipped Maxime Bernier, the most free market candidate on of the mainstream parties has fielded in decades, in a thirteenth ballot victory to take the leadership of the rival Conservative Party in 2017. Oh groan....

As for Democracy being rule by majority...you're absolutely right. We had 3 million more people voting for the candidate that lost. Explain that.

You're asking me, a Canadian, to explain what your Founding Fathers were thinking at the time of the Thirteen Colonies' Declaration of Independence? Wasn't that drilled into you ad nauseam in grade school? (I rather suspect though that the smaller of the Thirteen Colonies were reluctant to agree to a system that would enable large majorities in two or three of the bigger States to carry an election.)

 ???
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Hepcat on February 19, 2019, 01:06:22 PM
Don't you recognize "Coffin Joe"?

I like Coffin Joe! He be my favourite.

 :)

Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Mord on February 19, 2019, 01:17:51 PM
I am shocked that you gave me the  top hat emogie. I am never talking to you again, ruffian. Don't even try to apologise, I'm not having any of it.
It is over between us. I thought I made that perfectly clear. You have hurt my fragile feelings with your acerbic wit, callous disregard for human emotion, and love of easy listening muzak. Goodbye, sir, may you never darken my towels again. Enjoy the tariffs.
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Hepcat on February 19, 2019, 01:24:29 PM
Absolutely! The people who have tried to demean the song are the same people that try to pull books out of schools and libraries. Mark Twain, Oscar Wilde, etc. seem to piss them off as well.

When it comes to groups keen on censorship, your focus is far too narrow. The free press has many enemies, not just the fundamentalist "family values" crowd. Feminazis are usually keen to censor whatever they don't like. In fact they often form an unholy alliance with the family values crowd and together agitate to remove/eliminate "sexually explicit" material.

Moreover with respect to Mark Twain, it's his book Huckleberry Finn that draws the bulk of the flack. But the flack doesn't come from the family values crowd. It comes mainly from the politically correct hand wringers and professional agitators determined to eliminate any material that might ostensibly "offend" their favoured group of the month. This is the same crowd that has no interest in sporting events but demands (on behalf of others) that the Cleveland Indians, Atlanta Braves, Chicago Blackhawks, Washington Redskins and Edmonton Eskimos (though not the Pittsburgh Pirates or Winnipeg Blue Bombers) change their "demeaning" names and logos.

But on a worldwide basis it's the Marxists and now the Islamic theocracies who have been the biggest censors in the last century. The only reason we (you actually) overlook these groups is that they thankfully don't run our own governments.

 ???
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Hepcat on February 19, 2019, 01:29:13 PM
Enjoy the tariffs.

Tariffs? Huh?! What brought that on?

Why would I like tariffs? Tariffs are a tax that raises prices to the consumer. I'm a libertarian (as well as a prudent bottom-line oriented individual). I'm opposed to any and all tariffs.

 ???
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Mord on February 19, 2019, 01:32:48 PM
 I acknowledged that in another thread. In our country the pc police tried to ban "Baby it's Cold Outside". Many movies are being censored or shunned due to the same thing. Believe me, I want as much nudity and immorality in my entertainment as possible.
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Hepcat on February 19, 2019, 01:33:53 PM
You have hurt my fragile feelings with your acerbic wit, callous disregard for human emotion, and love of easy listening muzak.

I plead "Guilty!" to your first two charges but vigorously deny the third.

 C:)

Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Mord on February 19, 2019, 01:36:42 PM
I plead "Guilty!" to your first two charges but vigorously deny the third.

 C:)
Did you catch the Groucho Marx (The good Marx) reference?
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Hepcat on February 19, 2019, 01:37:09 PM
I acknowledged that in another thread. In our country the pc police tried to ban "Baby it's Cold Outside". Many movies are being censored or shunned due to the same thing.

Theirs is the classic fascist mentality.

 >:(

Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Mord on February 19, 2019, 01:42:37 PM
Theirs is the classic fascist mentality.

 >:(
Also, a President that calls the media "enemy of the people" and demeans or fires anyone who dare disagree with him. I think we've violated the "no politics" rule by now, so ta (unless you wanna talk music).
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Hepcat on February 19, 2019, 01:42:57 PM
Did you catch the Groucho Marx (The good Marx) reference?

Sorry I did not.

 :(

I did however catch your earlier Hunter S. Thompson reference but I've yet to get around to discussing pickup trucks (grossly overpowered ideally), stock car racing, drag racing, street racing, and anti-social hot rod punks (all things I like to give you a preview).

 ;)
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Hepcat on February 19, 2019, 01:49:07 PM
Also, a President that calls the media "enemy of the people" and demeans or fires anyone who dare disagree with him.

The latest buffoon you fellows elected (according to the rules) to that position is every bit as entitled to air his tonsils as were his predecessors. Just remember the words of Mark Twain:

"Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.

"No man's life, liberty or property are secure while Congress is in session."


 ;)

Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Mord on February 19, 2019, 01:53:36 PM
 Very true. We don't get many Lincolns, FDRs, or Washingtons anymore (not to mention Churchill)
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Mord on February 19, 2019, 01:59:02 PM
Btw, "never darken my towels again" was the Marx reference ( from "Duck Soup", I believe). The tariffs remark was a sarcastic allusion to our buffoon's Canadian tariffs when he first entered office. You guys aren't the enemy..
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Hepcat on February 19, 2019, 02:01:59 PM
The tariffs remark was a sarcastic allusion to our buffoon's Canadian tariffs when he first entered office. You guys aren't the enemy....

The fellows on Parliament Hill in Ottawa may be my enemies and that of my pocketbook, but not yours.

 ;)
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Mord on February 19, 2019, 02:02:59 PM
Sorry I did not.

 :(

I did however catch your earlier Hunter S. Thompson reference but I've yet to get around to discussing pickup trucks (grossly overpowered ideally), stock car racing, drag racing, street racing, and anti-social hot rod punks (all things I like to give you a preview).

 ;)
Any vehicle pictures must include a naked woman beside it (to be true to the theme of political incorrectness).
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Hepcat on February 19, 2019, 02:06:03 PM
This is the best I can do on a "right now" basis:

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%202/boat1t_zps3bc5783c.jpg)

 8)
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Mord on February 19, 2019, 02:42:29 PM
Exactly what I meant. I know the UMA nudity rule.
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Hepcat on February 20, 2019, 02:12:36 PM
You like Lightfoot, I prefer Dylan. Only one of them is a Nobel laureate.


Hmmmm, Gordon Lightfoot versus Bob Dylan. Tough question that. Here's perhaps my favourite track by each:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPXL3iEVnCM# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPXL3iEVnCM#)

The above release wasn't much played in the U.S. I understand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzMKTZdkaU4# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzMKTZdkaU4#)

Btw, my definition of redneck music is the old "pick-up trucks, beer, and loathing" associated mainly with country music.


Huh?! What's not to like about pickup trucks?

(https://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/General%20Album%203001/Truck_zpsnngllacr.jpg)

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/45/95/e1/4595e1bf67253b7b6429a6d35b33507b.jpg)

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/General%20Album%203001/Truck%205_zps5axe5uv1.jpg)

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/General%20Album%203001/Truck%203_zps0zd4rhbr.jpg)

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/General%20Album%203001/Little_zps1v9vzs43.jpg)

You did after all say you were a punk. That should imply that you're an anti-social street racer/hot rodder as well.

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/General%20Album%203001/Barbara%20Roufs_zpsluomcasx.jpg)

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/General%20Album%203001/Barbara_zpslbmos4zp.jpg)

I mean check out this 2004 Dodge Ram SRT10. It came with a 500-horsepower V10 Hemi putting out up to 525 pound-feet of torque. The SRT10 could jump from 0-60 in 4.9 seconds! That be some serious street action for your everyday street punk!

(https://www.cheatsheet.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/395638T_0306-619x500.jpg)

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Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Mord on February 20, 2019, 03:49:24 PM
DAMN, Hep, you are winning some points here! Those are pretty fine...er, vehicles.
Title: Re: Monsters fading from collective memory
Post by: Mord on February 20, 2019, 03:52:02 PM
Btw, great Lightfoot song, but far from my favourite Dylan.