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Collecting Monsters => Vintage Monster Toys => Topic started by: Palifan on February 10, 2018, 12:48:36 AM

Title: Mexican Frankenstein chalkware statue
Post by: Palifan on February 10, 2018, 12:48:36 AM
Hi all,

A friend of mine at work has been after one of these figures for a while now and they don't seem to come up at all, does anyone if these things are super rare and hard to find?

The one he's after is the largest version they made and is the same one in the link below -

http://classicmoviemonsters.blogspot.com/2010/09/mexican-frankenstein-statue.html (http://classicmoviemonsters.blogspot.com/2010/09/mexican-frankenstein-statue.html)

Ian
Title: Re: Mexican Frankenstein chalkware statue
Post by: Monsters For Sale on April 21, 2018, 12:47:36 AM
Yes, they are very hard to find.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2524/13160841823_40fb2ea912_o.jpg)
Seen here with the shorter Mexican Frankenstein (17½") and another 12" statue.

At 23½", the Mexican Son of Frankenstein statue is 5½" taller than much more common Esco statue - and usually more expensive.

Good luck on his search.

Title: Re: Mexican Frankenstein chalkware statue
Post by: Palifan on April 21, 2018, 06:37:47 AM
Thanks for passing that on and I do think my friend will end up having quite the search....it is what keeps us all going though  ;D

Ian
Title: Re: Mexican Frankenstein chalkware statue
Post by: Monsters For Sale on April 21, 2018, 06:44:04 AM
They DO show up sometimes.  I just bought one.  It was delivered early today.  (I got a good deal on it.)

I have a vague recollection that one sold - maybe a year ago? - for over $800.00.  Obviously there were at least 2 bidders who really wanted that one.


Title: Re: Mexican Frankenstein chalkware statue
Post by: Palifan on April 21, 2018, 10:54:40 PM
Quote from: Monsters For Sale on April 21, 2018, 06:44:04 AM
They DO show up sometimes.  I just bought one.  It was delivered early today.  (I got a good deal on it.)

I have a vague recollection that one sold - maybe a year ago? - for over $800.00.  Obviously there were at least 2 bidders who really wanted that one.

Oh now you're going to have to show it in all it's glory to us!

Ian
Title: Re: Mexican Frankenstein chalkware statue
Post by: Monsters For Sale on April 21, 2018, 11:14:42 PM
Quote from: Palifan on April 21, 2018, 10:54:40 PM
Oh now you're going to have to show it in all it's glory to us!

Ian

I plan to do that tomorrow - when both my camera and I have recharged our batteries.

Title: Re: Mexican Frankenstein chalkware statue
Post by: Mike Scott on April 22, 2018, 03:36:27 AM
Quote from: Monsters For Sale on April 21, 2018, 11:14:42 PM
I plan to do that tomorrow - when both my camera and I have recharged our batteries.

I'm runnin' on fumes, myself! 
Title: Re: Mexican Frankenstein chalkware statue
Post by: Monsters For Sale on April 22, 2018, 07:44:01 PM
Quote from: Palifan on April 21, 2018, 10:54:40 PM
Oh now you're going to have to show it in all it's glory to us!

Ian

Here you go:

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/895/41630259811_bab6b6ad80_h.jpg)
                           (Click on pictures so see larger images.)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/921/41640359751_1e4236d23f_b.jpg)


Frank has a very thin crack around his right foot where it meets the base.  But it was securely glued and shows no movement.  I just need to touch up the black paint and no one will ever suspect it ever existed.

His legs look short.  I must have been tilting the camera down at him.  He stands the full regulation 23½" for these Son of Frankenstein plaster statues from Mexico.
Title: Re: Mexican Frankenstein chalkware statue
Post by: Palifan on April 23, 2018, 07:01:16 AM
Thanks for posting, he looks in great condition with really nice paintwork. I'm not sure how long you've been looking for one for but it was well worth the wait and I know my friend will be very jealous of it. Looks like he has a film or two to watch as well judging by the cabinet behind him  :o

Ian
Title: Re: Mexican Frankenstein chalkware statue
Post by: Monsters For Sale on April 23, 2018, 07:12:24 AM
Quote from: Palifan on April 23, 2018, 07:01:16 AM
... Looks like he has a film or two to watch as well judging by the cabinet behind him  :o

Ian

That is 3 doors of a 4 door cabinet - I have two 70" x 72"cabinets.  I put all of the movies in slim cases to allow me to double shelf capacity.

For years I had my DVD's in boxes.  It is a pure joy to mention any film and find it in seconds!
Title: Re: Mexican Frankenstein chalkware statue
Post by: Palifan on April 23, 2018, 09:36:55 PM
Quote from: Monsters For Sale on April 23, 2018, 07:12:24 AM
That is 3 doors of a 4 door cabinet - I have two 70" x 72"cabinets.  I put all of the movies in slim cases to allow me to double shelf capacity.

For years I had my DVD's in boxes.  It is a pure joy to mention any film and find it in seconds!

It really is something and the Frank bucket is the cherry on top!

Ian
Title: Re: Mexican Frankenstein chalkware statue
Post by: Mike Scott on April 23, 2018, 10:32:28 PM
Quote from: Monsters For Sale on April 23, 2018, 07:12:24 AM
I put all of the movies in slim cases to allow me to double shelf capacity.

Do you remake the case art to fit a slim case, or just trim the original to fit, or . . .?
Title: Re: Mexican Frankenstein chalkware statue
Post by: Monsters For Sale on April 23, 2018, 10:45:35 PM
Quote from: Mike Scott on April 23, 2018, 10:32:28 PM
Do you remake the case art to fit a slim case, or just trim the original to fit, or . . .?

Trim to fit.  Almost all of the titles are still easy to read - only a few are a bit harder.  (Since they are alphabetized it doesn't cause a problem.)

For cardboard cases, I pull the extra thickness away from the printed paper and insert the artwork under the clear plastic of the 7mm case.

For fold-out cases, I buy multi-disc cases that don't layer the discs - cuts way down on scratches and takes up less room.

For the amount of movies I have, It was a big project.  But I really like the result.
Title: Re: Mexican Frankenstein chalkware statue
Post by: Mike Scott on April 24, 2018, 12:38:21 AM
Quote from: Monsters For Sale on April 23, 2018, 10:45:35 PM
For the amount of movies I have, It was a big project.

I'll bet!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Mexican Frankenstein chalkware statue
Post by: skully on April 24, 2018, 03:52:37 AM
It's interesting to note that these particular statues, almost any of the 3 sizes here, have different paint schemes.  I have a large Frankenstein, I'm sure the paint is all original, with a different paint scheme. I purchased him at an antique co-op about 5 years ago, for around 320.00.  It also seems as though the large size suffers more from paint chips and plaster cracks. 
Title: Re: Mexican Frankenstein chalkware statue
Post by: Monolith on June 07, 2018, 05:51:27 AM
I have one of these 23.5" tall monsters, it's like having a small child. I got it at a collectables show years ago for a great price.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1745/42583892722_dca4f78c83_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27SZzGW)23.5" Tall Son Of Frankenstein Statue (https://flic.kr/p/27SZzGW) by donald deveau (https://www.flickr.com/photos/124856366(*at*)N04/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Mexican Frankenstein chalkware statue
Post by: hugohernandez on November 05, 2018, 08:32:58 PM
Dear Monolith, I LOVE YOUR statue, but I LOVE mine even more.    3 hour road trip yesterday in the blowing rain, all on Interstate highway 80, dodging trucks and foolish pedal to the metal drivers.     Was well worth the harrowing trip.  Check out my BIG FRANKIE Mexican style.   All metallically aglow.
(http://i68.tinypic.com/1z5tesj.jpg)
Title: Re: Mexican Frankenstein chalkware statue
Post by: Monsters For Sale on November 05, 2018, 08:38:39 PM

Looks like he barely fits!

Big guy, huh?
Title: Re: Mexican Frankenstein chalkware statue
Post by: hugohernandez on November 05, 2018, 10:50:15 PM
HUGE !  and Wonderful.    I am pretty happy with that adventure, as scary as it was!   I haven't been behind the wheel in 40 years of living city life.
Now I am rural, and to get anywheres you need WHEELS.    So I risked the drive to get my amazing Frank.   The audacity of the artist to paint him in metal.   Even his hair is silvery, like spilled mercury.   
Title: Re: Mexican Frankenstein chalkware statue
Post by: hugohernandez on November 07, 2018, 02:54:11 PM
HOLLOW.   I think ONLY the Mexican big statues are hollow, according to people who own them.   Thats why I know its not chalkware, can't figure out what the material is, it seems really strong.    The esco statues are def chalkware, solid.   I don't know how Mexico made the big guys but I am told they are banks.  I just can't find the slot on mine.

any body else know what the Big ones are made of?   
Title: Re: Mexican Frankenstein chalkware statue
Post by: Monsters For Sale on November 07, 2018, 03:09:44 PM
Quote from: hugohernandez on November 07, 2018, 02:54:11 PM
HOLLOW.   I think ONLY the Mexican big statues are hollow, according to people who own them.   Thats why I know its not chalkware, can't figure out what the material is, it seems really strong.    The esco statues are def chalkware, solid.   I don't know how Mexico made the big guys but I am told they are banks.  I just can't find the slot on mine.

any body else know what the Big ones are made of?   

Plaster of Paris.

Most do not have slots - a few do.
Title: Re: Mexican Frankenstein chalkware statue
Post by: Mike Scott on November 07, 2018, 04:16:25 PM
What's the difference between chalkware and Plaster of Paris?
Title: Re: Mexican Frankenstein chalkware statue
Post by: Monsters For Sale on November 07, 2018, 04:29:49 PM
Quote from: Mike Scott on November 07, 2018, 04:16:25 PM
What's the difference between chalkware and Plaster of Paris?

Beats me.  I think they are both actually plaster.  There are many grades of plaster, made from clay, lime, gypsum, etc.

Good Plaster of Paris can be very hard but it doesn't ring like ceramic.  Think of it as ancient resin.  It shatters into sharp shards.

Chalkware is very soft.  Sounds dull when thumped and crumbles.

At least that's my understanding.

Title: Re: Mexican Frankenstein chalkware statue
Post by: Mike Scott on November 07, 2018, 06:00:46 PM
Quote from: Monsters For Sale on November 07, 2018, 04:29:49 PM
I think they are both actually plaster. 

Wikipedia agrees.
Title: Re: Mexican Frankenstein chalkware statue
Post by: hugohernandez on November 08, 2018, 03:50:30 PM
This version is solid concrete and it is possible they are being made and sold recently as of today, where abouts I don't know.     
Roadside outdoor Statuary and garden places.   Gotta check mine out.

I feel like it is akin to the Resin Frankenstein Halloween buckets being made today.    Its desirable but I prefer the HOLLOWED out version of the Frank "banks".

any body know any info on the solid concrete versions and where they might be found?   Maybe Mexico is shipping them over?
(http://i67.tinypic.com/29wsoqt.jpg)
Title: Re: Mexican Frankenstein chalkware statue
Post by: Monsters For Sale on November 08, 2018, 05:17:06 PM
Quote from: hugohernandez on November 08, 2018, 03:50:30 PM
This version is solid concrete and it is possible they are being made and sold recently as of today, where abouts I don't know. ...   

I wouldn't mind having one for the yard.  A Frankengnome.


These are being sold in concrete:

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1727/28533981548_9d26c1776e_c.jpg)

https://tinyurl.com/y8zfc8bj


I've seen them listed a few times.

Title: Re: Mexican Frankenstein chalkware statue
Post by: hugohernandez on November 08, 2018, 08:36:31 PM
Is that Dracula Bust made here?     

Title: Re: Mexican Frankenstein chalkware statue
Post by: Monsters For Sale on November 08, 2018, 08:40:11 PM
Quote from: hugohernandez on November 08, 2018, 08:36:31 PM
Is that Dracula Bust made here?   

Not sure.  I think so.
Title: Re: Mexican Frankenstein chalkware statue
Post by: hugohernandez on November 10, 2018, 08:06:27 PM
Quote from: Monolith on June 07, 2018, 05:51:27 AM
I have one of these 23.5" tall monsters, it's like having a small child. I got it at a collectables show years ago for a great price.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1745/42583892722_dca4f78c83_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27SZzGW)23.5" Tall Son Of Frankenstein Statue (https://flic.kr/p/27SZzGW) by donald deveau (https://www.flickr.com/photos/124856366(*at*)N04/), on Flickr

Dear Monolith, just wondering if this Big Guy is hollowed or solid concrete.    Apparently there are concrete SOLID versions to be had.    Although I can't find any LOL