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Title: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: monsterbride85 on January 12, 2018, 02:01:06 AM
ededed Hi I hope this question has not been asked , but if it has I am sorry . Last year I bought a Universal Monster ( Bride of Frankenstein ) Funko POP, my favorite as you can tell by my avatar. Anyway l looked at the other Universal Monsters on the back and I noticed the Metaluna Mutant as part of the Universal Monsters . In the past there was no mention of this . ( Side note I have not seen the movie , but I am planning on getting the movie and the novel it is based on .)  So I as would you consider the Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster or not . Also James Rolfe from Cinemassacre did a video on the Universal Monsters .  Also I wonder why there is no Invisible man Funko ? Oh well.  ( I tried to put a picture in but something won't let me.)
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: Memphremagog on January 12, 2018, 07:39:51 AM
I, for one, consider him to be one, although one that's on the fringes like the Mole People, the Creeper or the Ape Woman. He is still an iconic figure when you look at the various characters that Universal produced from the mid '20's through to 1960.
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: Mike...In 3-D! on January 12, 2018, 08:34:40 AM
I view him like this: If the Universal Monsters are the Ghostbusters, the Metaluna Mutant is Louis Tully. I love him, but he's not in the starting line-up.
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: Mike Scott on January 12, 2018, 11:12:42 AM
They are all UMs, to me. It's just a matter of popularity. Frankenstein and The Creature are at the top of the heap, Dynamo Dan and The Campus Monster (what would you call him?) are hovering near the bottom.
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: Monsters For Sale on January 12, 2018, 09:48:09 PM
Dracula, Frankenstein, etc. are Universal classic '30's & '40's horror monsters.

Creature From the Black Lagoon, Mole People, Metaluna Mutant, Trantula are Universal '50's sci-fi monsters.

Creature is so popular that he is usually listed with the horror group, but his origins don't involve steampunk medicine or curses.

(My opinion.)
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: Anton Phibes on January 12, 2018, 09:53:31 PM
Marvel Comics had a lot of eras. Stan Lee and Kirby, Ditko, etc. Then along came other eras leading all the way to Modern. Yet they are all marvel comics characters.

In Universal we have the Lon Chaney intro, the Jack Pierce era, and then the Westmores and other. But all are Universal Monsters much in the same way as all are Marvel or DC. I get the meaning...when I think of DC I think Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman.  But characters late to the party like Cyborg, The Doom patrol, and Swamp Thing are every bit as classic DC characters as the big boys. Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: marsattacks666 on January 12, 2018, 10:15:48 PM
The Metaluna Mutant is definitely an interesting character, despite lack of screen-time. Let's consider this, UMA'ers. Boba Fett had very little screen time. Yet, he(Boba Fett) is part of the Star Wars universe, and not a secondary character. ( Mord is going to dislike this comparison)Lol! :o
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: monsterbride85 on January 12, 2018, 10:34:36 PM
Thanks for the reply . Some good answers here.
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: Mike Scott on January 12, 2018, 10:38:56 PM
The Metaluna Mutant is definitely an interesting character, despite lack of screen-time.

About the same amount as The Bride.  :)
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: YoungestMonsterKid on January 12, 2018, 10:47:14 PM
Yeah, definitely. But he's one of the last.
Some people go farther than that though and count stuff like Jaws and Jurassic Park. I don't really agree with that though. I'm actually a person who'd be willing to count earlier stuff like the 1913 Jekyll and Hyde that everyone forgets exists.

But I dunno. Really it can be whatever you want. "Universal Monsters" is kind of a made up title. It's more just a merchandising thing. Officially, any character that's been merchandised with the brand is a Universal Monster. Really beyond that, it doesn't matter.
Remember characters like Freddy and Jason crossed over and they were originally by separate companies.

Better groups would be The 00-40's characters, the nuclear age characters, the slashers, the kaijus.
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: YoungestMonsterKid on January 12, 2018, 10:47:55 PM
Also, regarding the This Island Earth novel, the books been out of print for a long time. But you can find it easily in digital form.
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: Mike Scott on January 12, 2018, 11:39:28 PM
Also, regarding the This Island Earth novel, the books been out of print for a long time.

Here's a recent(ish) inexpensive softcover reprint. Or, you can get the Kindle.

https://www.amazon.com/This-Island-Earth-Raymond-Jones/dp/1503095363/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1515817992&sr=1-1&keywords=This+Island+Earth (https://www.amazon.com/This-Island-Earth-Raymond-Jones/dp/1503095363/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1515817992&sr=1-1&keywords=This+Island+Earth)
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: Mord on January 13, 2018, 12:35:42 AM
The Metaluna Mutant is definitely an interesting character, despite lack of screen-time. Let's consider this, UMA'ers. Boba Fett had very little screen time. Yet, he(Boba Fett) is part of the Star Wars universe, and not a secondary character. ( Mord is going to dislike this comparison)Lol! :o
Mars, I like you. You have great taste in music and obscure films. I'm gonna pretend I didn't see this post. Btw, The Metaluna Mutant has bigger balls than Boba Fett . I mean, like literally, look at his head. It's a huge, inverted scrotum.
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: LundyAfterMidnight on January 13, 2018, 02:45:58 AM
Second string perhaps, but he's part of the team!
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: marsattacks666 on January 13, 2018, 06:23:22 AM
Mars, I like you. You have great taste in music and obscure films. I'm gonna pretend I didn't see this post. Btw, The Metaluna Mutant has bigger balls than Boba Fett . I mean, like literally, look at his head. It's a huge, inverted scrotum.


Haaaaaa-haaaaaa!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: ChristineBCW on January 14, 2018, 06:05:00 PM
I was always pleased that the Mole People were given a slightly larger 'population' and disappointed - of course - that all of us couldn't have enjoyed far more Metaluna's.  But all this talk about the Creature being a Universal monster?  OK, fine... for me, though, he'll always be a FarSide monster...
(https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/26733708_1769438836402499_3080451426080545970_n.jpg?oh=6adce53844af451707f3bd9f77a0d9b9&oe=5AB345E9)
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: marsattacks666 on January 15, 2018, 07:56:05 PM
I was always pleased that the Mole People were given a slightly larger 'population' and disappointed - of course - that all of us couldn't have enjoyed far more Metaluna's.  But all this talk about the Creature being a Universal monster?  OK, fine... for me, though, he'll always be a FarSide monster...
(https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/26733708_1769438836402499_3080451426080545970_n.jpg?oh=6adce53844af451707f3bd9f77a0d9b9&oe=5AB345E9)

This cartoon is deplorable. Yikes!!
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: YoungestMonsterKid on January 16, 2018, 11:25:59 AM
This cartoon is deplorable. Yikes!!
It really isn't. Gary Larson is awesome. But whatever.
Maybe if you think about it too much it seems weird but I don't think it's meant to be taken that way.
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: Monsters For Sale on January 16, 2018, 09:22:36 PM
This cartoon is deplorable. Yikes!!

Why?  What do you think the scuba diver plans on doing with that fish?
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: Mike Scott on January 16, 2018, 10:36:18 PM
Maybe it's because the Creature is able to get better looking babes than that?
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: LugosiFan25 on January 29, 2018, 11:49:54 AM
Yes I just see him as more part of the lesser known third wave of Universal Monsters.

First wave: Dracula, Frankenstein's Monster, Invisible Man, etc.

Second wave: Wolf Man, Mad Ghoul, Kharis, Ape Woman, etc.

Third wave: Gill Man, Metaluna Mutant, Deadly Mantis, etc.
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: Dr.Cyclops on February 20, 2018, 07:26:50 PM
I'm kinda on the Fence over Metaluna Mutant as a Universal Monster. On one hand the Mutants got the Iconic look going for it...but on the other hand it was lacking screen time and there were probably more than one Mutant on Metaluna.
Verdict : He makes the 1st backup reserve.
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: Monsters For Sale on February 20, 2018, 07:43:47 PM
I'm kinda on the Fence over Metaluna Mutant as a Universal Monster. On one hand the Mutants got the Iconic look going for it...but on the other hand it was lacking screen time and there were probably more than one Mutant on Metaluna.
Verdict : He makes the 1st backup reserve.

Mole Men had more screen time but there were certainly a lot of them.
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: Lazarus on April 07, 2018, 01:52:55 PM
He had a themed section (albeit small) at the Universal Monsters restaurant at Universal Studios, so I say he counts.  He's also had figures in all of the newer Universal Monsters toy lines.
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: Anton Phibes on April 07, 2018, 03:11:49 PM
Monster on Campus and Mad Ghoul are Universal Monsters too....and they get no love. Just no love at all. Ever. Except from DD and garage kit boyz.
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: YoungestMonsterKid on April 07, 2018, 04:40:49 PM
Monster on Campus and Mad Ghoul are Universal Monsters too....and they get no love. Just no love at all. Ever. Except from DD and garage kit boyz.
I remember once reading online that The Mad Ghoul was originally considered to be in House of Frankenstein. (Along with Kharis, Ape Woman, and maybe Invisible Man. But they cut it down to three.)
But I have no proof of this other than reading it online, so I dunno.
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: LugosiFan25 on April 30, 2018, 10:28:49 AM
Monster on Campus and Mad Ghoul are Universal Monsters too....and they get no love. Just no love at all. Ever. Except from DD and garage kit boyz.

This drives me crazy too. Don't get me wrong - I love the biggies - but where is the love for Dynamo Dan 'The Man Made Monster' and The Mole Men! I love the 40s and 50s monsters too.
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: Anton Phibes on April 30, 2018, 10:40:25 AM
This drives me crazy too. Don't get me wrong - I love the biggies - but where is the love for Dynamo Dan 'The Man Made Monster' and The Mole Men! I love the 40s and 50s monsters too.

Monster on Campus is much like Werewolf of London. Beloved by its fanbase....forgotten by everyone else,lol.
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: Mike Scott on April 30, 2018, 03:03:11 PM
Monster on Campus is much like Werewolf of London. Beloved by its fanbase....forgotten by everyone else,lol.

Monster on Campus has a fan base?
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: Anton Phibes on April 30, 2018, 03:14:30 PM
Monster on Campus has a fan base?


Yes...doesn't every film eventually find its audience?  OK, wise guy.... Just for that crack, you will be provided with a link to watch it for free. So **raspberry sound effects here** :angel:

Monster On The Campus (1959) - Arthur Franz, Joanna Moore and Judson Pratt - Feature (Horror, Sci-Fi) - Video Dailymotion (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x21dm04)
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: Mike Scott on April 30, 2018, 07:42:35 PM
OK, wise guy.... Just for that crack, you will be provided with a link to watch it for free.

I have it on DVD. I actually have seen it, a couple of times.  ;D
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: Lunkenstein on April 30, 2018, 07:58:05 PM
I love MONSTER ON THE CAMPUS. Have seen it many times. I have even been accused of being a primitive anthropoid myself, mentally as well as physically.
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: YoungestMonsterKid on August 21, 2018, 07:33:46 PM
This drives me crazy too. Don't get me wrong - I love the biggies - but where is the love for Dynamo Dan 'The Man Made Monster' and The Mole Men! I love the 40s and 50s monsters too.
The Mole Men have at least had some action figures and masks.
I consider them to be in the same league with The Mutant. They're practically brothers in my mind.

As for Dynamo Dan, he was in that Universal Monsters Online, before they pulled the plug on it.
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: horrorhunter on August 21, 2018, 08:50:49 PM
Metaluna Mutant rated a classic Don Post mask, so he deserves to be called a Universal Monster in my book.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_sCGQaM9PnYI/TQ6NOLl9J6I/AAAAAAAAAc0/e7lkzU4-Nts/s1600/fm046070.jpg)
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: YoungestMonsterKid on August 21, 2018, 09:37:03 PM
Metaluna Mutant rated a classic Don Post mask, so he deserves to be called a Universal Monster in my book.

([url]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_sCGQaM9PnYI/TQ6NOLl9J6I/AAAAAAAAAc0/e7lkzU4-Nts/s1600/fm046070.jpg[/url])

Originally there were only 10 masks, though. Mutant and Gorilla were only added so there could be 12 for the calendar.
And I believe the Mutant was only picked because Universal had the molds for it lying around. But that's basically what helped solidify him as a Universal Monster.
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: BRICK on August 22, 2018, 05:55:45 PM
   I do consider the Metaluna Mutant a classic Universal Monster. While he wasn’t marketed as much as the other creatures he did appear on several items from the 60-70’s, including a Don Post mask, a drinking glass, a Collegeville costume and as part of the Aladdin UM Lunchbox. Plus, he is just plain cool looking. 

   However, Monster on the Campus is another matter, altogether. That is one Universal Horror that I REALLY don’t like. It is the film that best illustrates the fall of the Universal Horror cycle. Granted, it has a somewhat interesting premise, but everything about it is sub-par: from the awful make-up to the fake-looking models. Though similar to The Wolf Man, the pathos and sense of wonder have been replaced with an almost sadistic exploitation. This looks like something AIP would have put out at the time, not Universal. I generally consider Universal’s bronze age to end with either “The Creature Walks Among Us” or “Man of a Thousand Faces”. The latter one, in particular, creates a great bookend to Universal’s fledgling horrors of the 1920’s. 
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: LugosiFan25 on August 23, 2018, 09:33:27 AM
   However, Monster on the Campus is another matter, altogether. That is one Universal Horror that I REALLY don’t like. It is the film that best illustrates the fall of the Universal Horror cycle. Granted, it has a somewhat interesting premise, but everything about it is sub-par: from the awful make-up to the fake-looking models. Though similar to The Wolf Man, the pathos and sense of wonder have been replaced with an almost sadistic exploitation. This looks like something AIP would have put out at the time, not Universal.

One man's trash is another man's treasure!
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: horrorhunter on August 23, 2018, 11:07:03 AM
One man's trash is another man's treasure!
Exactly.

I've always liked Monster On The Campus. Uni did some great Sci-Fi flicks in the '50s and for me this is one of them. I grew up a Monster Kid/Dino Kid in the '60s and I have fond memories of seeing Monster On The Campus on Horror Host Bestoink Dooley's show when we lived in Athens Ga. in the early '60s.

I like to read everyone's opinion of various bits of Monsterdom (movies, toys, etc.), and I don't mind stating that something or other isn't my cup-of-tea, but I try not to trash something too hard because there are always a lot of other folks who like it for one reason or another. I don't like those POP figures, for example, but obviously a lot of other people do, so I try to respect that. Still can't stand 'em though.  :laugh:
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: YoungestMonsterKid on September 11, 2018, 10:04:58 AM
I consider The Mole People to be the end of the cycle, it came a few months after Creature Walks Among Us.


Man of a Thousand Faces is better left ignored, unless you really want to know what's the deal with so much 60's Phantom and Hunchback merchandise.
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: horrorhunter on September 12, 2018, 02:00:03 PM
Metaluna Mutant rated a classic Don Post mask, so he deserves to be called a Universal Monster in my book.

([url]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_sCGQaM9PnYI/TQ6NOLl9J6I/AAAAAAAAAc0/e7lkzU4-Nts/s1600/fm046070.jpg[/url])

Here's a pic of mine, reissue that is. :)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1866/43522070525_30c45d6993_b.jpg)
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: YoungestMonsterKid on September 25, 2018, 09:30:11 AM
Here's a pic of mine, reissue that is. :)

([url]https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1866/43522070525_30c45d6993_b.jpg[/url])

The original one's sold in the 60's were not actually the one that appears on the calendar or the ones that were reissued. The originals were actually pretty tiny. Originally the Mutant didn't even have a mask being sold, he was just there to pad out the calendar. But after the calendar came out Don Post made a smaller mask to sell but still used the pictures of the big mask. The 90's reissues were from the reconstructed molds for the big one that's in the calendar, which itself was taken from the original movie mask molds.

(http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/22178/20635414_1.jpg?v=8D1A6FA078879D0)
Here's a cast to show what the sixties ones that you could buy were like.
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: Mike Scott on September 25, 2018, 09:39:39 AM
Here's a cast to show what the sixties ones that you could buy were like.

Those are awful!
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: YoungestMonsterKid on November 09, 2018, 08:12:07 PM
Those are awful!
I'm sure some kids who paid all that money were dissapointed.
But, I wouldn't say it's the worst.

(SUPER Off Topic but: Why does this site think "dissapointed" isn't a word? I've noticed this with a lot of spell checkers.)
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: Monsters For Sale on November 09, 2018, 08:26:50 PM
…  (SUPER Off Topic but: Why does this site think "dissapointed" isn't a word? I've noticed this with a lot of spell checkers.) 

Because it thinks "disappointed" is.
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: YoungestMonsterKid on November 16, 2018, 03:33:33 AM
Because it thinks "disappointed" is.
disappointed
disappointing
weird
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: Dr.Cyclops on February 11, 2019, 09:18:56 PM
Not to go too far off topic but does anyone know which original Don Post Masks were the most/least popular?
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: Mike Scott on February 12, 2019, 12:10:04 AM
Not to go too far off topic but does anyone know which original Don Post Masks were the most/least popular?

I'm gonna guess that Mad Doctor one sold the least number of copies.
Title: Re: This Island Earth Metaluna Mutant a Universal Monster ?
Post by: YoungestMonsterKid on August 22, 2019, 02:08:26 PM
I'm gonna guess that Mad Doctor one sold the least number of copies.
On that topic, where's all the Dr. Niemann merch at?

I mean, they passed him off as being important in the ultimate crossover film.
You could say he kinda made the cut that The Mummy didn't. ;D
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-3EeA_anoT2o/W7PUWBZRwZI/AAAAAAAAS5g/VJHZCDcGktA3E7hAF_4eyRe5LM6Lk3zNgCLcBGAs/s1600/poster.jpg)