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Title: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: a71678 on April 09, 2017, 11:09:04 AM
I'm not sure if this is the right forum for this since these are inspired by vintage pieces, but not actually vintage (in fact, they don't even exist yet... which I guess is the polar opposite of "vintage").  Each year, I run a massive Halloween block party in the city where I work, so I haven't been home for Halloween for nearly a decade.  Last year, however, the town council in the area where I live made a somewhat last-minute decision to move trick-or-treating to the Saturday before Halloween.  At first I was upset because I thought it was a pretty stupid decision (I still do...), but then I realized that actually gave me the opportunity to celebrate two Halloweens!

My wife and her family usually sit outside and hand out candy at our house on Halloween, so there really wasn't anything extra to do except buy a little more candy and set out one more chair.  This year, however, I have plenty of time to prepare... so I came up with the idea of creating little Halloween "fun packs" from pillow boxes (the kind they stuff with mints or whatever and hand out as wedding favors), inspired by the 1960s Phoenix Candy "Frankenstein" box:

(http://i64.tinypic.com/261kfo2.jpg)

I know the rest of the boxes in this series (I'm only fortunate enough to own the Frankenstein version) were if the "Frankenstein's Pal" variety... but I really like the design of the original Frankenstein box, so I came up with these instead:

(http://i65.tinypic.com/33ni45h.jpg)

(http://i65.tinypic.com/5nqk34.jpg)

(http://i66.tinypic.com/25inciq.jpg)

(http://i67.tinypic.com/1037qzo.jpg)
Kids today might not know who the Phantom is, but he's my favorite so he gets a box!

(http://i68.tinypic.com/dowjdw.jpg)


Taking a cue from 1960s monster cards, the backs will feature horrible jokes:

(http://i64.tinypic.com/2a5i4av.jpg)
My wife says the screwdriver joke is objectionable, so I'll probably replace it with, "What did Frankenstein's monster say when he ran for office? 'Volt for me!'"

(http://i65.tinypic.com/o9n975.jpg)

(http://i67.tinypic.com/103g2l5.jpg)

(http://i67.tinypic.com/245nih3.jpg)

(http://i63.tinypic.com/qzrrzn.jpg)

(http://i68.tinypic.com/xdh108.jpg)


Each one will contain two Albert's Halloween chews (keeping the tradition of borderline horrible candy in these types of "fun packs" alive), a small plastic soldier (inspired by the tiny plastic monsters in the L.M. Becker "Spooky Surprise" packs), a Halloween eraser, a monster-themed trading card and one of the following custom designed stickers:

(http://i67.tinypic.com/2moe2pt.jpg)

(http://i68.tinypic.com/2exvhnb.jpg)

(http://i63.tinypic.com/9vi60w.jpg)

(http://i63.tinypic.com/a122jc.jpg)

(http://i64.tinypic.com/b8mx68.jpg)

(http://i67.tinypic.com/wjzw9v.jpg)

(http://i67.tinypic.com/2lxvyg0.jpg)

(http://i68.tinypic.com/a4wn5j.jpg)


I'm also thinking about designing some "monster money" play dollars and adding one in every pack, but I haven't quite decided yet.  If I do, I'll update this post that here, as well, if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on April 09, 2017, 01:13:07 PM
The kids will love them! How many do you plan on doing? Sounds like a lot of work!  ;D  In stead of a toy soldier, maybe you could find some dirt cheap small monster jigglers (spider, skeleton, etc.)?

A couple of years ago, UMA had it's own DIY recreations of the 6 Phoenix boxes, plus an additional 6 new boxes (Invisible Man, Mole Man, etc.) Here's The Creature.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/780x603q90/r/661/I60zOh.jpg)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: horrorhunter on April 09, 2017, 01:18:01 PM
Those look absolutely awesome!

I have a couple of suggestions for you:

1- Since the Best Plastics flats are relatively expensive now you obviously can't use those, but plastic soldiers won't cut it. You can get neato plastic monster figures pretty cheap in Big Bucket Of Monsters tubes but those are too big to fit, so... buy a few cheap bags of Rings and Creatures at Dollar Tree around Hween and put one in every box.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-i2WI4hb6-sk/UfyRz0-IVrI/AAAAAAAABXY/t0zGf1VVTKc/s1600/IMG_1237.jpg)

Another possibility might be Zombie figures from Walmart:

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mYbSGgH9laQ/VMrLhowepWI/AAAAAAAAHAY/ENYfAMZRiV8/s1600/DSC_0335.JPG)

They're small and skinny, but may still be a little too large to fit in the boxes with the other stuff (2" tall). I'm pretty sure Walmart still sells these (around $5 a bucket) but if they don't I have some extras I'll send to you.

2- Don't worry about a little veiled non-PC humor slipped in. We had it in the '60s with certain Horror Hosts so there is precedence. Everyone is too touchy these days about every little thing. Just my opinion.

Dude, if you have those boxes and stickers printed up and fill them with the monster coolness you mentioned there are several people on UMA (especially me!) who would be interested in purchasing a complete set. Please keep us updated about this project in this thread, and when you get ready to sell whole sets, or even individual boxes, just post your offer to sell in the Monsters For Sale section. Great idea and I really hope you go through with it. I want a whole set!  :)

 tynhrt
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: a71678 on April 09, 2017, 07:30:29 PM
Thanks! The reprint templates on this site actually were my introduction to the "My Pal" boxes.  I don't own any of them, though I do have the front and back panels cut from the "Frankenstein" box.

My first idea for the plastic figures was the Tube of Monsters, but they were on the expensive side for what I wanted to do.  Then I went out and measured some regular plastic soldiers, and if the Tube of Monsters are a similar size, they wouldn't have worked anyway.  I bought a bag of 144 one-inch plastic soldiers on eBay for $6.50, but I wasn't aware of the Walmart zombies; I'll check them out and see if they might fit.

I priced out the jigglers, but I couldn't find any that were as cost effective, and I'm not sure some of them would have fit, anyway, adding in the rest of the items.  I thought about the Dollar Tree rings and figures, as well.  I use them as prizes at the Halloween block party I mentioned, so I took a couple out from last year's "leftovers" and measured them; most don't quite fit.  The bat rings fit OK, but the rest were too tall for the boxes, and most of the non-ring figures (except the spiders) were too wide.  Then I measured some of the erasers I had left over from last year, and they fit (only Dracula was a little snug because of his cape...), so I ordered a gross of them for this project.

For the trading cards, a regular 2.5"X3.5" card is going to be tight, especially squeezing the 3-D items and candy around them.  I'm looking at either buying a few sets of R. R. Parks' "Monster Choke 'n' Gag" (which feature two "miniature" cards on each regular-sized card) and cutting them apart or just creating a pair of "You'll Die Laughing"-type cards of my own, having them printed on standard size trading card stock (two per card) and then cutting them apart.  There's only about a $3 difference between doing either one.

In all, I'm hoping to make 144 boxes (originally it was going to be 200, but 144 is more cost effective for a trial run since the the prizes and boxes are sold in that quantity) at about 70 cents a box, or a total of around $100.  We usually get about 200 trick-or-treaters, so they will be first-come, first-served (and the 2- and 3-year-olds won't be interested, anyway).

To be clear, the boxes will be plain, with labels on both sides, so I'm not sure how "collectible" they will be.  But if anyone on here decides they really want some, I'm sure we can figure it out.  I'm going back and forth between sealing them or just closing them.  Sealing them would cost a hair more, but it's doable.  My initial idea was Scotch Magic tape, which would be transparent and easy to open (unlike some of the generic cellophane tape, which doesn't "give" and would tear the labels when opened).  My wife thinks it would be better to use a paper-based adhesive closure, like cutting apart some Avery mailing labels, which is also doable... but I wouldn't be able to put on the labels until after they were put together and sealed, and I think it would be easier to apply the labels when the boxes are still flat instead.

I've already pre-designed a couple for next year, featuring Godzilla and King Kong with a different font and background, based loosely on the 1965 Donruss "King Kong" wrapper.  Maybe if I find some plastic items that fit better, I can save the soldiers for them since they figure more prominently into those movies.  Or I can just throw them in with the block party prizes.

But we'll see how well this first batch goes over first.  For the same amount of money, I could give every kid his or her own full-sized candy bar (which I actually did last year)... or 17 Pixy Stix!
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on April 09, 2017, 08:53:21 PM
Thanks! The reprint templates on this site actually were my introduction to the "My Pal" boxes.

I didn't know you'd been around that long.  :)

For the trading cards, a regular 2.5"X3.5" card is going to be tight, especially squeezing the 3-D items and candy around them. 

Seems like it would be easy enough to print your own on card stock. You could make them any size you want.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: horrorhunter on April 09, 2017, 09:18:31 PM
To be clear, the boxes will be plain, with labels on both sides, so I'm not sure how "collectible" they will be.  But if anyone on here decides they really want some, I'm sure we can figure it out.  I'm going back and forth between sealing them or just closing them.
I would love to purchase a full set of those (UNSEALED, please). I suspect other UMA members would be interested in buying a set as well. I would be willing to reimburse your cost plus shipping, and pay some extra you could use to make more to hand out to the Trick Or Treaters.

From what I see from your initial post I think they would be of interest to anyone who collects Monster and/or Halloween toys...so, very collectible.

I love the Best Plastics Horror Monsters Grab Bags, Becker Spooky Surprise grab bags, monster candy boxes, and anything of that nature. And, UMA is full of folks who love that stuff too. Between selling sets here on UMA and hanging on to enough to give out to TOTs I doubt if 144 would be enough. Anyway, put me down for a full set of them. Something else to look forward to for Halloween.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on April 09, 2017, 10:14:25 PM
I would love to purchase a full set of those (UNSEALED, please). I suspect other UMA members would be interested in buying a set as well.

Let's leave a few for the kids!  ;D
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: horrorhunter on April 09, 2017, 10:26:03 PM
Let's leave a few for the kids!  ;D
But they'll only use them up, have fun with them, and remember the experience for the rest of their lives. Whereas us old farts will put them away in our collections where nobody will see them for years (unless we post a pic on the internet) and let them languish with thousands of similar items that we think we just can't do without and pretty much forget about them...

....I see your point.  ;)

BUT, I still want a set! So there.  ;D
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on April 09, 2017, 10:30:01 PM
But they'll only use them up, have fun with them, and remember the experience for the rest of their lives.

Damn kids!  >:(
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: a71678 on April 11, 2017, 07:02:48 PM
I've been around for a lot longer than I've been posting.  "Lurking" seems particularly appropriate on a monster site!  Besides, I don't really collect "monster" stuff, per se; my big thing is non-sports cards (including the monster variety, which is how I stumbled upon this joint in the first place).  But I like looking at all this stuff, and I do make the occasional "bargain box" purchase at yard sales and flea markets.  I've found a nice Remco Phantom, some MPC figures and a Palmer Dracula that way, all for about a buck each.  Knowledge is power!

I toyed around with the idea of printing my own cards, but I can't really get the gloss that I want unless I have them done professionally.  I'm still a little up in the air on that part.

I can't do anything until the boxes come, anyway.  My cheapest place to source them was China, and I ordered them a couple weeks ago, so I probably have another month or so to wait.  Then the fun begins!  (Fun ain't what it used to be....)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on April 11, 2017, 07:29:46 PM
I don't really collect "monster" stuff, per se; my big thing is non-sports cards (including the monster variety,

Any idea where to find those Japanese Universal Monsters cards? I'm interested in the 9 card Creature FTBL subset.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: horrorhunter on April 11, 2017, 11:44:58 PM
I've been around for a lot longer than I've been posting.  "Lurking" seems particularly appropriate on a monster site!
I lurked for over a year before I finally started posting.

I think we all had to go through the lurking stage. Then after you start posting you go through the can't post pics stage. After that comes the newby trying to fit in stage. Then, the boy, these guys really don't like me stage. Then comes the I don't care I'll post what I want to stage. Then the damn, I've been warned because I posted something inappropriate stage. And finally you settle down, blend in, and really enjoy yourself, finally becoming part of UMA proper.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on April 12, 2017, 12:19:37 AM
I think we all had to go through the lurking stage. Then after you start posting you go through the can't post pics stage. After that comes the newby trying to fit in stage. Then, the boy, these guys really don't like me stage. Then comes the I don't care I'll post what I want to stage. Then the damn, I've been warned because I posted something inappropriate stage. And finally you settle down, blend in, and really enjoy yourself, finally becoming part of UMA proper.

Sounds like the 5 stages of grief!  :(
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: horrorhunter on April 12, 2017, 12:23:10 AM
Sounds like the 5 stages of grief!  :(
:laugh:

Not really, but it can be slightly dire for a bit.  >:D
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Palifan on April 12, 2017, 12:49:16 AM
I lurked for over a year before I finally started posting.

I think we all had to go through the lurking stage. Then after you start posting you go through the can't post pics stage.

Looks like I've still got a long way to go as I'm still stuck on the 'can't post pics' stage. One day I'll sort out photo bucket or something and show you all what I've picked up since joining (the little I have before joining here is all in storage in the UK so it's going to take even longer to get some pictures of those things).

Ian
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on April 12, 2017, 01:35:22 AM
One day I'll sort out photo bucket

Just use that "Forum" link.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Palifan on April 12, 2017, 08:53:20 AM
Just use that "Forum" link.

Which forum link Mike? Is there a way to upload directly to this site?

Ian
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Hepcat on April 12, 2017, 11:54:28 AM
... so I came up with the idea of creating little Halloween "fun packs" from pillow boxes (the kind they stuff with mints or whatever and hand out as wedding favors), inspired by the 1960s Phoenix Candy "Frankenstein" box:

That's a fantastic idea! Good for you, and even better for the kids!

 8)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Hepcat on April 12, 2017, 11:57:09 AM
Those look absolutely awesome!

I have a couple of suggestions for you:

1- Since the Best Plastics flats are relatively expensive now you obviously can't use those, but plastic soldiers won't cut it. You can get neato plastic monster figures pretty cheap in Big Bucket Of Monsters tubes but those are too big to fit, so... buy a few cheap bags of Rings and Creatures at Dollar Tree around Hween and put one in every box.

([url]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-i2WI4hb6-sk/UfyRz0-IVrI/AAAAAAAABXY/t0zGf1VVTKc/s1600/IMG_1237.jpg[/url])

Another possibility might be Zombie figures from Walmart:

([url]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mYbSGgH9laQ/VMrLhowepWI/AAAAAAAAHAY/ENYfAMZRiV8/s1600/DSC_0335.JPG[/url])

They're small and skinny, but may still be a little too large to fit in the boxes with the other stuff (2" tall). I'm pretty sure Walmart still sells these (around $5 a bucket) but if they don't I have some extras I'll send to you.

2- Don't worry about a little veiled non-PC humor slipped in. We had it in the '60s with certain Horror Hosts so there is precedence. Everyone is too touchy these days about every little thing. Just my opinion.


I'm in full agreement! There are loads of little monstery Halloween figures/trinkets that would fit the spirit of the box better than toy soldiers.

 :)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Hepcat on April 12, 2017, 12:29:07 PM
We've been adding Halloween themed figures and such in with the treats to the kids Halloween bags these past three Halloweens. We've even made the Halloween bags gender specific!

Boys' Treat Bags 2014

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(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/Halloween%202014/DSCN3437_zps87c6d6b5.jpg)

Girls' Treat Bags 2014

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/Halloween%202014/DSCN3438_zps76d90336.jpg)

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/Halloween%202014/DSCN3439_zpsa90935ed.jpg)

Boys' Treat Bags 2015

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/Halloween%202015/DSCN3815_zps75og9fer.jpg)

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/Halloween%202015/DSCN3816_zpsghojbct1.jpg)

Girls' Treat Bags 2015

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/Halloween%202015/DSCN3812_zpsxhsfgbvq.jpg)

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/Halloween%202015/DSCN3813_zpsli2k8y3l.jpg)

The only actual difference between the boys' and girls' bags was that the boys got dinosaurs while the girls got unicorns or winged horses. We purchased bags of these cheap at Target.

 tynhrt
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Palifan on April 12, 2017, 12:42:57 PM
Wow Hepcat, I need to bring my kids around to your door this Halloween as those bags you give away are packed. I bet there's a queue around the corner if word has got out!

Great selection though.

Ian
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: a71678 on April 12, 2017, 06:30:38 PM
Whoa, Dave! That's a haul no matter who you are!

I made my first pass at the play money last night and cleaned it up some today:

(http://i63.tinypic.com/fyldn9.jpg)

My idea is to use the same layout with a variety of different monsters in the middle.  I printed one out today to test, and it was OK, but I really would like to find a different type of paper for it.  I'm thinking about linen paper, the kind you use to print resumes.  That could get expensive (compared to using regular printer paper, which I already own), but I'm looking at 10 bills per page, so it shouldn't be too bad.  It might push the project closer to $110.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Allhallowsday on April 12, 2017, 06:54:07 PM
a71678 is a gentleman genius. 
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on April 12, 2017, 07:54:12 PM
Which forum link Mike? Is there a way to upload directly to this site?


Sorry! Not forum, but image (IMG), in Photobucket.

(http://imageshack.com/a/img922/7938/nBSOCd.jpg)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Palifan on April 12, 2017, 11:38:18 PM
Got it, thanks Mike, I'll sort out an account and get posting!

Ian
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Hepcat on April 13, 2017, 08:57:32 AM
I made my first pass at the play money last night and cleaned it up some today:

([url]http://i63.tinypic.com/fyldn9.jpg[/url])

My idea is to use the same layout with a variety of different monsters in the middle.  I printed one out today to test, and it was OK, but I really would like to find a different type of paper for it.  I'm thinking about linen paper, the kind you use to print resumes.


That is fabulous!

 8)

I'm betting you get a number of requests from UMAers for sets of the bills as well as the boxes.

 ;)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: horrorhunter on April 13, 2017, 03:07:58 PM
That is fabulous!

 8)

I'm betting you get a number of requests from UMAers for sets of the bills as well as the boxes.

 ;)
I'm telling you, man, if this guy just has extras of this stuff printed up he could sell enough of it to monster collectors to fund the whole project. That way the TOTs get their treats, the collectors get some cool pieces, and he gets back the money he spent.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: a71678 on April 13, 2017, 04:56:31 PM
Horrorhunter, I'm convinced!  Once I get them put together this summer, I'll put some up for sale.  I never dreamed there would be any interest in this beyond, "Hey, that's a cool idea for trick-or-treaters," but between the messages on here and the PMs I've received... I guess there is!

Today, I tried printing the money fronts and backs together... it didn't work out so well.  I'm not sure why, but I still have some work to do in getting everything to line up just right.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: horrorhunter on April 13, 2017, 06:37:36 PM
Horrorhunter, I'm convinced!  Once I get them put together this summer, I'll put some up for sale.  I never dreamed there would be any interest in this beyond, "Hey, that's a cool idea for trick-or-treaters," but between the messages on here and the PMs I've received... I guess there is!

Today, I tried printing the money fronts and backs together... it didn't work out so well.  I'm not sure why, but I still have some work to do in getting everything to line up just right.
All I can say for sure is that I'm interested in purchasing a full set of the boxes with the contents (unsealed) and I'm willing to pay a reasonable amount over your costs plus shipping. I can't speak for anyone else but this stuff gets me excited, and I'm pretty sure there are other UMA members who would be interested in buying a set as well. I look at it as a win/win...I'm adding fun stuff to my collection AND I'm helping fund your good work in getting the treats out to the kids. Plus, it's something else to look forward to getting around Halloween. Win/win!  :)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on April 13, 2017, 08:57:15 PM
Today, I tried printing the money fronts and backs together... it didn't work out so well. 

I assume both images are the same size. Make sure both images are cropped (no extra space around the image) and center them when printing.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Hepcat on April 18, 2017, 02:13:04 PM
Taking a cue from 1960s monster cards, the backs will feature horrible jokes:

([url]http://i64.tinypic.com/2a5i4av.jpg[/url])


I really like the idea of the corny jokes! So much like the You'll Die Laughing and Spook Stories cards I collected as a kid.

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%202/04-12-201284655PM.jpg)

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/SpookTheatreback.jpg)

My wife says the screwdriver joke is objectionable, so I'll probably replace it with, "What did Frankenstein's monster say when he ran for office? 'Volt for me!'"


Did your wife collect these cards back in the day? If she didn't thus work on her apprenticeship, what could she possibly know about corny jokes for the backs of monster boxes?

 ???

Incidentally both jokes get my Good Monstering Seal of Approval.

 ;)

Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: a71678 on April 19, 2017, 07:35:27 PM
She did not, incidentally... but then, neither did I! I missed the "Spook Stories" craze (which, incidentally, is where I got the idea for putting corny jokes on the back) by a couple decades.  In fact, even when I began to collect non-sports cards as a teenager, I didn't give monster cards much due (except I did have a complete set of "Fright Flicks" stickers, pulled from repackaged Warner fun packs).  It wasn't until I started collecting again about nine years ago that "Spook Stories" and "You'll Die Laughing" (all four series, including the test issue) made their way into my collection.

I got bored over the weekend and started designing the labels for 2019 (yes, I haven't even tested the first series yet, and I've already planned three years out...).  I think I'm going to do urban legends on the back of those, each one starting with "Is it real?" and ending with "What do YOU think?"  Jokes are already prepared for the 2018 series....
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Hepcat on April 20, 2017, 08:27:33 AM
It wasn't until I started collecting again about nine years ago that "Spook Stories" and "You'll Die Laughing" (all four series, including the test issue) made their way into my collection.

Can you tell us more about the You'll Die Laughing test issue?

 ???
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: horrorhunter on April 20, 2017, 10:17:34 AM
Can you tell us more about the You'll Die Laughing test issue?

 ???

http://thewrapper.tripod.com/youlldie.html (http://thewrapper.tripod.com/youlldie.html)

"Another interesting subtlety of this series are the 18 test cards discussed by Ron Wilson in Wrapper issue #119. Only the real hard-core collectors bother with those though, since they are identical to the regular cards except the numbering sequence is different."

I have them in the binder with my other Creature Feature/You'll Die Laughing sets. They aren't expensive. Since they are identical to regular cards in the '73 series (except for numbering) I only bought them as a completest.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Hepcat on April 20, 2017, 10:48:55 AM
Just eighteen cards? I wonder how the test cards were therefore sold/distributed.

 ???
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on April 20, 2017, 11:00:18 AM
Just eighteen cards? I wonder how the test cards were therefore sold/distributed.

If they sold them, they wouldn't be "test" cards.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Hepcat on April 20, 2017, 11:55:20 AM
Card sets were test marketed regionally through regular sales outlets. That's how Topps or whoever gauged demand for the issue.

 cl:)

But a "set" of eighteen cards?

 ???

Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on April 20, 2017, 01:07:35 PM
Card sets were test marketed regionally through regular sales outlets. That's how Topps or whoever gauged demand for the issue.

Sorry! I was thinking of a different kind of test.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: a71678 on May 01, 2017, 07:06:19 PM
I've mocked up two cards I plan to have printed up for the boxes (one per box -- dealer's choice!) and found a really cool back graphic, but I'm not quite ready to reveal them yet. (My wife, who greeted this entire enterprise with quasi-polite eye rolls from the beginning, had a whole different take on the situation when I told her people were actually offering to pay real money for some of them; now she's cautioning me not to post too much, lest someone hijack my "brilliant" idea... which is to give cool stuff to kids on Halloween, I guess.)

That said, because I'm putting jokes on the backs of the boxes, I wanted to do something different for the backs of the cards (the fronts will resemble Monster Midgee cards, or smaller versions of Spook Stories). Last week, on the way to work, I came up with the idea of using funny monster limericks. I wrote a handful while watching "Svengoolie" on Saturday night, but I can only use two of them. Any favorites? (I know which one I like best!)

íTwas a vampire barber named Rex,
Who took cash, cards and personal checks,
He slicked back his bangs,
And sharpened his fangs,
Swept his chair and shouted, ďWhose necks?Ē

While opening up todayís mail,
The mummy, he started to wail,
He was covered in gauze,
From his feet to his jaws,
Seems too much for a little hangnail.

One fine evening in Frankensteinís lab,
Where the monster sat up from his slab,
The good doctor was billed,
For the power he swilled,
He hoped Igor would pick up the tab.

The werewolf, he learned all too soon,
To be dressed, shaved and showered by noon,
If it got dark by chance,
And he werenít wearing pants,
Everybody would see his full moon.

The skeleton, he had to shout it,
Just so nobody ever could doubt it,
ďI just canít resist,
This beautiful miss,
Iím in love and thereís no bones about it!Ē

The werewolf, infested with fleas,
Asked the vet if she could help him, please,
She gave him some powder,
But he started to doubt her,
Because all it did was make him sneeze.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Hepcat on May 02, 2017, 09:42:27 AM
Will you be offended by constructive criticism?

 ???
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: horrorhunter on May 02, 2017, 11:11:45 AM
a71678, you've probably already put more planning into these boxes than went into a lot of the original product intended for kids in the '60s. Part of the charm of that stuff is that it was so goofy. I think any of the limericks would be fine.

Just don't burn yourself out on this project before it comes to fruition. The most important thing to focus on is keep it fun for yourself so it actually gets completed. I'm impressed by your work so far and look forward to adding a set of these to my collection come Halloween time.  ;)

 cl:)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: a71678 on May 02, 2017, 08:36:23 PM
Hepcat, construct away!

Thanks, Horrorhunter. To be honest, right now this project is one of the few things keeping me sane! It's nice to have something to think about and look forward to. I just hope it doesn't rain on Halloween!
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Hepcat on May 03, 2017, 11:24:09 AM
Hepcat, construct away!

To be honest....


Okay then. I'll be honest. You've blown the metre in every single limerick.

 ;)

The ideas and rhymes are excellent, but you need to work on the metre. i.e. the beat. This is not at all surprising. Most people don't realize that limericks and other poems typically have a beat. That's why they don't understand the concept of metre, and that's usually where people go wrong when attempting limericks.

A classic limerick is composed of five lines of eight syllables, eight syllables, five syllables, five syllables and eight syllables. The emphasis is on every third syllable thus:

da DUM da da DUM da da DUM
da DUM da da DUM da da DUM
da DUM da da DUM
da DUM da da DUM
da DUM da da DUM da da DUM

Any word with over one syllable has a heavier accent on a certain syllable. Those syllables should be placed where the stress is in the line, i.e. at the DUMS. For one syllable words the strongest should ideally be placed at the DUMS. The strongest words in any language are the action words, i.e. the verbs, with nouns in second. Articles such as "a" and "the" are not naturally stressed, nor are prepositions, e.g. "to, from, in, by, of", etc.

For example, my limerick below scans thus:

da DUM da da DUM da da DUM
da DUM da da DUM da da DUM
da DUM da da DUM da
da DUM da da DUM da
da DUM da da DUM da da DUM

A lithesome young lassie named Wray
Was fearful her boyfriend they'd slay.
When he climbed up the tower
With Fay his fair flower
No more could she do then but pray.


(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/AFay.jpg)

So while mine has the right metre, it isn't exactly classic since the syllable count is different. The easiest way though to write a limerick is to take a really good one such as this one:

There was a young lady from Cork,
Whose Pa made a fortune in pork.
He bought for his daughter,
A tutor who taught her,
To balance green peas on her fork.


And then substitute your own words (without messing up the beat of course).

 :)

Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Hepcat on May 03, 2017, 02:27:47 PM
Your limerick:

One fine evening in Frankensteinís lab,
Where the monster sat up from his slab,
The good doctor was billed,
For the power he swilled,
He hoped Igor would pick up the tab.


Pretty good but "hoped" is a strong word and would naturally carry stress. Therefore you have:

da da DUM da da DUM da da DUM
da DUM da da DUM da da DUM
da da DUM da da DUM
da da DUM da da DUM
da DUM DUM da da DUM da da DUM


I'd modify it thus:

The dark evening in Frankensteinís lab
When the monster did rise from his slab,
The mad doctor was billed
For the power he swilled
But poor Igor was handed the tab!


da da DUM da da DUM da da DUM
da da DUM da da DUM da da DUM
da da DUM da da DUM
da da DUM da da DUM
da da DUM da da DUM da da DUM


Alfred Lord Hepcattyson

 8)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Hepcat on May 03, 2017, 04:05:23 PM
Yours:

The werewolf, he learned all too soon,
To be dressed, shaved and showered by noon,
If it got dark by chance,
And he werenít wearing pants,
Everybody would see his full moon.


There are problems with both the second and fifth lines. My alternative wordings:

The werewolf he learned all too soon
To shower and dress by high noon.
If it got dark by chance
And he werenít wearing pants,
The ladies would see his full moon.

The werewolf he learned all too soon
To shower and trouser by noon.
If it got dark by chance
And he werenít wearing pants,
The townsfolk would see his full moon.


Alfred Lord Hepcattyson

 8)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Hepcat on May 05, 2017, 08:55:23 AM
Yours:

The werewolf, infested with fleas,
Asked the vet if she could help him, please,
She gave him some powder,
But he started to doubt her,
Because all it did was make him sneeze.

da DUM da da DUM da da DUM
DUM da DUM da DUM da DUM da DUM
da DUM da da DUM da
da da DUM da da DUM da
da DUM DUM da DUM da DUM da DUM


There are serious problems with the second and fifth lines.

My alternative suggestion:

The werewolf infested with fleas
Requested the vet help him please.
Her prescription of powder
Soon caused him to doubt her
Since all he could do then was sneeze.

da DUM da da DUM da da DUM
da DUM da da DUM da da DUM
da da DUM da da DUM da
da DUM da da DUM da
da DUM da da DUM da da DUM


Alfred Lord Hepcattyson

 8)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: horrorhunter on May 05, 2017, 12:19:21 PM
I actually like his original limericks because of their imperfections. They remind me of something some cheezy '60s trading card company would come up with on the spur of the moment just to crank out product and pry nickels from the hands of monster lovin' kids.  :laugh:

I love the casual chaos of stuff like that because it reminds me of much of the stuff I grew up loving as a Monsterkid.  8)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: a71678 on May 05, 2017, 10:17:45 PM
Thanks for the lesson, Professor Hepcat!  I especially like your ending for the Frankenstein one better than my original.  I had been leaning toward that one and the "full moon" one from the beginning, and this pretty much seals the deal as far as I'm concerned.

This is what the backs will look like, hopefully (with Hepcat's edits):

(http://i65.tinypic.com/25utz83.jpg)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: a71678 on May 18, 2017, 12:15:23 PM
I should be getting the cards printed next week. There will be four in all. Here's a sample of the front:

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4169/34698157806_5a32bfc332.jpg)

Also, some exciting news... at this point, instead of being labels stuck on a box, the boxes will be 100 percent printed! That is, if all goes as planned. I made a couple prototypes yesterday, but haven't had time to photograph them; when I do, I'll post the picture. I was really happy with the way they turned out, and the quality on the final version should be even better.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: horrorhunter on May 18, 2017, 12:43:40 PM
This is getting better and better! Great work!

Looking forward to Halloween even more now.  :)

 tynhrt
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: a71678 on May 18, 2017, 08:37:04 PM
Thanks, Horrorhunter! Here are the prototypes. I had a hard time getting my camera to focus because of the box contours.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4227/33935956643_14194ae27f.jpg)

I don't have the die yet, so these may not be 100 percent to scale, but they're close. Once I do get the die, I'll see if I need to make Frankenstein's head a little smaller or Dracula's a little larger to fill in some of the orange space. If Drac gets larger, then most of the other monsters probably will, as well, since they're all done at the same scale. These were made using a laser printer, so there's a little toner loss at the folds; the "real" ones will be professionally printed. The die will score the ends so they fold more evenly, as well, and I'll have the seam sealed with a professional adhesive, not Scotch tape like these. But I was really pleased with how they came out.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Palifan on May 19, 2017, 12:23:30 AM
I've been keeping up to speed with this thread since you started it a71678 and you really are going to great lengths to create an amazing product. I'm another who you can put down for a set once you complete them but keep up the fantastic work , you have an ever growing number of fans on here eager to see them come to fruition!  :D

Ian
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Hepcat on May 19, 2017, 08:18:27 AM
Here are the prototypes.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4227/33935956643_14194ae27f.jpg)

Sweet!

These were made using a laser printer, so there's a little toner loss at the folds; the "real" ones will be professionally printed. The die will score the ends so they fold more evenly, as well, and I'll have the seam sealed with a professional adhesive, not Scotch tape like these. But I was really pleased with how they came out.

Professionally printed? Are you in the printing business yourself?

 ???
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: a71678 on May 19, 2017, 11:18:55 PM
Let's just say I know a guy (or gal).
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Monsters For Sale on July 19, 2017, 02:43:10 PM

Save a few unfolded flats to peddle to fellow UMA members.

I'd like a Frank.

Maybe you could make a little money to defray your candy costs.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: SpeedierThantheGrave on July 20, 2017, 12:08:35 AM
First: I LOVE what you're planning. This is great stuff, and I agree it's important to keep the charm of Halloween alive for kids.

Buuuuut... just to bring up something, because I'd hate to see all your energy and love and creativity destroyed by litigious parents:  Is this the first time you're giving out toys for Halloween?  Or do you already have a reputation in town as "the house with the good stuff?"  If parents bringing their kids to your house already knowing you're giving out toys, then great.  I'm just worried that - you hand out the goodies, parents aren't aware, kid swallows toy and chokes (or lodges it up their nose) and you get sued and everything is ruined.  It might be worth just mentioning to the chaperone that the boxes have toys as you're handing them out and ask if it's OK.  But then explaining that 144 times would get old, so maybe make up a very large and obvious disclaimer sign?  Or something else to protect yourself.

Again, I think this is GREAT and love what you're doing.  And if goody boxes have come to be expected then you're probably fine.  I would just hate to hear that your amazingly good intentions came back to bite you. 
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: SpeedierThantheGrave on July 20, 2017, 12:17:56 AM
Also: Two more jokes for the kids boxes? No? Too much?? I tried.   >:D

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqyZ2viAEcs#)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on July 20, 2017, 01:06:06 AM
Don't know why that video isn't working, for me? If you click the "! No longer available", it will take you to the YT page.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Hepcat on July 20, 2017, 04:03:51 PM
Buuuuut... just to bring up something, because I'd hate to see all your energy and love and creativity destroyed by litigious parents: stuff?" ... I'm just worried that - you hand out the goodies, parents aren't aware, kid swallows toy and chokes (or lodges it up their nose) and you get sued and everything is ruined.

Any parents who would file such a suit should be jailed, and so should their lawyers.

 >:(
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: SpeedierThantheGrave on July 20, 2017, 10:16:41 PM
Don't know why that video isn't working, for me? If you click the "! No longer available", it will take you to the YT page.


I'm not sure, it works and plays when I click on it. *sigh...* I still suck at sharing videos.  :-\

Here's the Youtube page link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqyZ2viAEcs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqyZ2viAEcs)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Monsters For Sale on July 20, 2017, 10:18:56 PM
I'm not sure, it works and plays when I click on it. *sigh...* I still suck at sharing videos.  :-\

Here's the Youtube page link.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqyZ2viAEcs[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqyZ2viAEcs[/url])



Works for me.

Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: a71678 on July 23, 2017, 03:43:51 PM
Nice! I might have to use the Lake Erie one if I come up with more boxes with monster jokes.  Right now, I have designs either templated or planned through 2028:

2017 - Universal monsters (jokes on back)
2018 - Godzilla and King Kong (jokes on back)
2019 - Fortune teller (mystery fortune on back)
2020 - Monster election (funny election stats on back)
2021 - Monster race game (cut-and-stick license plate on back)
2022 - Dinosaurs (3-D picture on back)
2023 - Creepy creatures (color-by-number on back)
2024 - Monster election (funny election stats on back)
2025 - Mystery box (urban legends on back)
2026 - Pirates (pirate trivia on back)
2027 - Candy convoy (cut-out truck on back)
2028 - Monster election (funny election stats on back)

Of course, all these can change or be eliminated if I come up with better ideas or lose interest :)

This year's boxes go to the printer this week!
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: aura of foreboding on July 23, 2017, 09:47:54 PM
Cool ideas!  You may also want to consider running with the UM assortment for a few years at a time and urge the kids to come back next year to collect some of the ones they may have missed! 
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: a71678 on July 28, 2017, 09:17:01 PM
^That's something to think about. But... I have so many ideas!

I'm really happy with the way this project is going so far.

(http://i.imgur.com/NvFBu5v.jpg)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on July 28, 2017, 10:58:25 PM
How did you die-cut those boxes?
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: aura of foreboding on July 28, 2017, 10:59:47 PM
Love!  Love!  Love!  I really need a set of these.  They are beyond fantastic! 
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: a71678 on July 29, 2017, 12:40:13 PM
Thanks, Aura!  I plan on making a limited supply available for those who have asked once I have them all together, probably late September/early October.

This has been a fun project, and I've learned a lot.  In fact, I've already done most of the work on next year's boxes, as well.  When I sent the files to my connection at the printer's a few weeks ago, she printed them on 8 1/2 X 11, as I had requested, but when I came to pick them up, she told me I could save money by switching to 11X17 stock and putting more on each sheet.  When I laid them out like that, I had a whole extra half of the page to use on the second sheet and space in the margins on both sheets.  So I took advantage and used the extra half-sheet to print about a third of next year's boxes at basically no extra cost.  Then in the margins, I printed the Godzilla and King Kong stand-ups I plan to include in next year's boxes at no extra cost.  Then I still had space, so I designed some pencil toppers for the 2019 boxes and had about a third of them printed at no cost.  Then I still had space, so I made up some monster coloring cards (seen at the bottom left in the photo, though the flash washed them out to some degree) as an extra for this year's boxes.  It seemed like kind of a waste to make them black and white since I was paying for color printing, but I got them for free, and they look pretty neat, so I'm not too worried about it.

I'm die-cutting the boxes using a Sizzix Big Shot die-cutting and embossing machine normally used by crafters for scrapbooking and greeting cards, with a pillow box die from Lawn Fawn, and sealing the edge with Scor-Tape.  I learned about all these things back when the original plan was to use pre-made pillow boxes with Avery labels on them.  I tried a sample when I got them, and I wasn't at all happy with the results.  So I went back to the YouTube video that showed how to use the Lawn Fawn die and researched all the other stuff shown, but not explained, in the video (specifically, the Big Shot and Scor-Tape).  I originally found the video when I was trying to find a die that would make 2 1/4 X 3 1/4 candy boxes, similar to the size used in the '60s.  The closest I could find was 3X3, which seems to be the standard today (I have some candy cigarettes that I bought in a box that size recently).  Which is when I started thinking about pillow boxes instead, and... here we are!

I'm cutting the cards with an A4 rotary paper trimmer from J. Burrows.  It took a few tries to get the spacing right for the small cards, but once I figured it out, it was pretty easy.  I suspect I'll have to go through a similar process with the coloring cards since they're larger.  (he trading cards are 1 3/4X 2 1/2, half the size of a regular trading card, to fit in the boxes.  I was really hoping I could just buy a couple cheap sets of "You Slay Me" cards and put one of those cards in each box, but alas....  The coloring cards are 2X3, mostly because I wanted to use as much of the excess space on the printing stock as possible.  The boxes are 2 1/2 X 4 1/4, but the interior space is only 2 1/2 X 3 1/2 because of the way the flaps close.  I was literally only a couple millimeters away from being able to use the "You Slay Me" cards... but making my own was more fun and less expensive, anyway, even if it was more work.

In the process of all this, I may have inadvertently created a new monster fan.  I had the first prototype of the monster money, with Frankenstein's monster, finished just before my nephew's ninth birthday, so I stuck one of the more well-centered ones in his birthday card.  (They're one of the last things I still need to have printed.)  His response was "What's this?" and then "That's Frankenstein?"  He'd obviously heard of the monster, but had never really seen him, I guess, outside of "Hotel Transylvania."  On Father's Day, when we all took my dad out for dinner, I brought the first box prototypes to show them.  The at my birthday dinner a couple weeks ago, I asked my nephew if he wanted me to save him a set of boxes, and he said no, the only one he was interested in was Frankenstein's monster because Frankenstein is cool!  I don't think Frankie will reach the heights of Pokemon or Skylanders in his mind... but the recognition is definitely there now.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on July 29, 2017, 01:54:05 PM
Thanks for all the details on the die-cutting and box making! You've really gone all out on these things!  :)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Palifan on July 29, 2017, 02:10:03 PM
They look amazing and I've enjoyed following all your progress through this stunning endeavour. Quite something and thanks for all the information you just posted as I'm sure it will come in handy for a few projects I've had on the go for a while now.

I'd definitely be up for a set once they're finished so please keep me in mind also.

Fantastic work!

Ian
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: tylerh on July 31, 2017, 02:45:34 PM
This is far and away my favorite project that I have seen all year!!  Awesome work !!!!!
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: horrorhunter on August 02, 2017, 12:22:35 PM
^That's something to think about. But... I have so many ideas!

I'm really happy with the way this project is going so far.

([url]http://i.imgur.com/NvFBu5v.jpg[/url])

I'm still in for a set of these. Really looking forward to it!  :)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: horrorhunter on August 03, 2017, 12:03:42 PM
Thanks, Aura!  I plan on making a limited supply available for those who have asked once I have them all together, probably late September/early October.

This has been a fun project, and I've learned a lot.  In fact, I've already done most of the work on next year's boxes, as well.  When I sent the files to my connection at the printer's a few weeks ago, she printed them on 8 1/2 X 11, as I had requested, but when I came to pick them up, she told me I could save money by switching to 11X17 stock and putting more on each sheet.  When I laid them out like that, I had a whole extra half of the page to use on the second sheet and space in the margins on both sheets.  So I took advantage and used the extra half-sheet to print about a third of next year's boxes at basically no extra cost.  Then in the margins, I printed the Godzilla and King Kong stand-ups I plan to include in next year's boxes at no extra cost.  Then I still had space, so I designed some pencil toppers for the 2019 boxes and had about a third of them printed at no cost.  Then I still had space, so I made up some monster coloring cards (seen at the bottom left in the photo, though the flash washed them out to some degree) as an extra for this year's boxes.  It seemed like kind of a waste to make them black and white since I was paying for color printing, but I got them for free, and they look pretty neat, so I'm not too worried about it.

I'm die-cutting the boxes using a Sizzix Big Shot die-cutting and embossing machine normally used by crafters for scrapbooking and greeting cards, with a pillow box die from Lawn Fawn, and sealing the edge with Scor-Tape.  I learned about all these things back when the original plan was to use pre-made pillow boxes with Avery labels on them.  I tried a sample when I got them, and I wasn't at all happy with the results.  So I went back to the YouTube video that showed how to use the Lawn Fawn die and researched all the other stuff shown, but not explained, in the video (specifically, the Big Shot and Scor-Tape).  I originally found the video when I was trying to find a die that would make 2 1/4 X 3 1/4 candy boxes, similar to the size used in the '60s.  The closest I could find was 3X3, which seems to be the standard today (I have some candy cigarettes that I bought in a box that size recently).  Which is when I started thinking about pillow boxes instead, and... here we are!

I'm cutting the cards with an A4 rotary paper trimmer from J. Burrows.  It took a few tries to get the spacing right for the small cards, but once I figured it out, it was pretty easy.  I suspect I'll have to go through a similar process with the coloring cards since they're larger.  (he trading cards are 1 3/4X 2 1/2, half the size of a regular trading card, to fit in the boxes.  I was really hoping I could just buy a couple cheap sets of "You Slay Me" cards and put one of those cards in each box, but alas....  The coloring cards are 2X3, mostly because I wanted to use as much of the excess space on the printing stock as possible.  The boxes are 2 1/2 X 4 1/4, but the interior space is only 2 1/2 X 3 1/2 because of the way the flaps close.  I was literally only a couple millimeters away from being able to use the "You Slay Me" cards... but making my own was more fun and less expensive, anyway, even if it was more work.

In the process of all this, I may have inadvertently created a new monster fan.  I had the first prototype of the monster money, with Frankenstein's monster, finished just before my nephew's ninth birthday, so I stuck one of the more well-centered ones in his birthday card.  (They're one of the last things I still need to have printed.)  His response was "What's this?" and then "That's Frankenstein?"  He'd obviously heard of the monster, but had never really seen him, I guess, outside of "Hotel Transylvania."  On Father's Day, when we all took my dad out for dinner, I brought the first box prototypes to show them.  The at my birthday dinner a couple weeks ago, I asked my nephew if he wanted me to save him a set of boxes, and he said no, the only one he was interested in was Frankenstein's monster because Frankenstein is cool!  I don't think Frankie will reach the heights of Pokemon or Skylanders in his mind... but the recognition is definitely there now.
This all sounds great! But, I'm curious about what toys you plan to put in the boxes, that is if you still plan to. A small toy or two in each box would be what really puts it over the top. If nothing else just use those little rings and creatures from a source like Dollar Tree, but since those are seasonal you would have to wait to close to Hween to get them. You could probably find a source for them online (eBay?) if you poked around even before Halloween time. I would favor the little 2" skinny zombies from the Walmart buckets myself. I guess they would fit, but I'm not sure how much room you'll have in the pillow boxes with all that other stuff in there. You'll be making some great monster memories for some kids this Halloween, and be making some collectors very happy. Good man!
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: crue-leader on August 03, 2017, 01:43:38 PM
The kids will love them! How many do you plan on doing? Sounds like a lot of work!  ;D  In stead of a toy soldier, maybe you could find some dirt cheap small monster jigglers (spider, skeleton, etc.)?

A couple of years ago, UMA had it's own DIY recreations of the 6 Phoenix boxes, plus an additional 6 new boxes (Invisible Man, Mole Man, etc.) Here's The Creature.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/780x603q90/r/661/I60zOh.jpg)

Are these still available to download?
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on August 03, 2017, 02:40:48 PM
Are these still available to download?

They aren't, but I can put them back up, if you like.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: crue-leader on August 03, 2017, 07:16:14 PM
They aren't, but I can put them back up, if you like.

Oh that would be great, and much appreciated. I'll take em to the print shop
 and have them printed on card stock
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Monsters For Sale on August 03, 2017, 07:54:26 PM
Oh that would be great, and much appreciated. I'll take em to the print shop
 and have them printed on card stock

Could you print one extra Frankenstein for me?
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on August 03, 2017, 09:43:11 PM
I'll take em to the print shop and have them printed on card stock.


Excellent idea!

Here are the boxes. The Mr. Hyde box needs to be worked on.
http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=31588.0 (http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=31588.0)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: crue-leader on August 04, 2017, 12:01:36 PM
Could you print one extra Frankenstein for me?

I'll PM you after I get them back
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: crue-leader on August 04, 2017, 12:09:29 PM
Excellent idea!

Here are the boxes. The Mr. Hyde box needs to be worked on.
[url]http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=31588.0[/url] ([url]http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=31588.0[/url])


Thanks very much for sharing these. I just dropped them off at the printer and should have them back in a few hours. I am having them print on an off white heavy card stock. Pretty reasonable Like $.60 a piece. I am thinking I am going to try scoring from the backside of the board instead of the front though. I'll post when I get one done.  Does anyone have reproductions of the Planet of the Apes candy boxes that you know of?
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: crue-leader on August 04, 2017, 12:11:50 PM
I will be making a couple of these for my son and nephew. And I think the ReAction monsters might just fit in these boxes.?
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on August 04, 2017, 12:43:36 PM
Pretty reasonable Like $.60 a piece.

Sure beats a couple of hundred!  ;)

I am thinking I am going to try scoring from the backside of the board instead of the front though.

Do you mean for cutting them out, or for the folds? A paper cutter works great for cutting them out.

Does anyone have reproductions of the Planet of the Apes candy boxes that you know of?

Don't know of any. The bits and pieces for these were all from ebay auctions.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on August 04, 2017, 12:46:08 PM
And I think the ReAction monsters might just fit in these boxes.?

Maybe, at an angle?
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: horrorhunter on August 04, 2017, 03:06:38 PM
I will be making a couple of these for my son and nephew. And I think the ReAction monsters might just fit in these boxes.?

These little Walmart Zombies would fit (2" tall and very thin).

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mYbSGgH9laQ/VMrLhowepWI/AAAAAAAAHAY/ENYfAMZRiV8/s1600/DSC_0335.JPG)

These are what I suggested for a71678 to put in the Monster Halloween boxes that are the subject of this thread.

Also, these cheap Dollar Tree rings and creepy things would be cool. Maybe one Dollar Tree item and one Walmart Zombie per box.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-i2WI4hb6-sk/UfyRz0-IVrI/AAAAAAAABXY/t0zGf1VVTKc/s1600/IMG_1237.jpg)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on August 04, 2017, 03:35:30 PM
I posted the MR. HYDE box, so they are all there, now.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: a71678 on August 05, 2017, 01:39:50 PM
Mike, thanks for re-posting these!

Horrorhunter, I looked at the zombie buckets, but you only get 48 zombies per bucket (the rest are soldiers to battle the zombies, along with a few graveyard playset pieces), so I would have to buy six buckets to put a zombie in each box, and that's a little cost prohibitive. However, I did take your advice on the rings. I pulled a package from last year's Halloween block party out of storage and tested them; the spiders are a little tight, but all three versions fit, so that will be one of the "toys." Hopefully they'll have a mix of bats, skulls and spiders, as per usual (or, with my luck, this will be the year they decide to discontinue all of them...). The other will be a Halloween pencil topper/eraser in the shape of Frankenstein's monster, Dracula, a ghost, a witch, a bat or a jack-o-lantern (Drac is tight, but he still fits if I angle him the right way).

In addition, each box will contain a monster trading card, monster coloring card, monster sticker, piece of monster play money, (still to be printed), a business card for Frankenstein's laboratory to hear a recorded message from Igor (still to be printed because I don't have the free temporary phone number set up yet) and three candy chews (which I just picked up this morning at Dollar General).

While I'm at it, these are the plans for the "innards" of the future boxes:

2018 - Godzilla and King Kong - trading card, coloring card, sticker, Godzilla or King King "stand-up" cut-out card, two plastic soldiers to stage battles with said stand-up and three candy chews

2019 - Fortune teller - celebrity "fortune" trading card, sticker, lucky penny, eyeball pencil topper, fortune-teller fish, plastic skull necklace and three candy chews

2020 - Monster election - presidential trading card, monster coloring card, monster sticker, patriotic sticker, patriotic pencil, monster pencil topper and three candy chews

2021 - Monster race game - folded paper game board with game pieces, game cards, a die, instruction sheet and three candy chews

2022 - Dinosaurs - dinosaur trading card, dinosaur sticker, dinosaur pencil topper, plastic dinosaur, 3-D glasses (to view the 3-D dinosaur scene on the back of the box), shark's tooth fossil and three candy chews

2023 - Creepy creatures (color-by-number on back) - trading card, sticker, pencil topper, three candy chews and other items TBD

2024 - Monster election - presidential trading card, monster coloring card, monster sticker, patriotic sticker, patriotic pencil, monster pencil topper and three candy chews

2025 - Mystery box - random stuff left over from the previous seven years, plus new stuff if I don't have enough leftovers, plus three candy chews

2026 - Pirates - pirate trading card, Jolly Roger sticker, Jolly Roger or pirate pencil topper, red cellophane sheet (to decode the secret message on the back), three candy chews and other items TBD

2027 - Candy convoy - lots of candy!

2028 - Monster election - presidential trading card, monster coloring card, monster sticker, patriotic sticker, patriotic pencil, monster pencil topper and three candy chews

For 2029, I'm thinking about maybe doing firetruck boxes and using Atomic Fireballs as the candy instead of candy chews, but we'll see. My wife pointed out that the smaller kids probably wouldn't be able to eat the Atomic Fireballs, so it might not be as fun for them.

You can see that cards, stickers and pencil toppers are pretty standard in most of these boxes. That's because the cards are cheap to print, bulk sticker stock is relatively inexpensive through Amazon, and the pencil toppers I can have printed in the margins of the box sheets, getting them essentially for free (though I do have to to through the trouble of die-cutting them). If any of these factors change, their inclusion likely will, as well. I've also designed a series of monster tattoos, but tattoo paper is very expensive; I would end up paying about 40 cents per tattoo, and that's not a price point I want to be at right now.

Speedier, I'm not sure why I didn't see your message earlier about litigation. Believe it or not, I thought about that when I first started considering this project. Each box will be labeled "candy and toys" so there's that warning. Plus kids could choke on a Tootsie Roll just as easily as a plastic toy, so that risk really always exists if someone wants to pursue a lawsuit badly enough. Also, having small toys available as an alternative for trick-or-treaters who aren't able to eat candy due to food allergies or whose parents just don't want them having too much sugar is a thing now, believe it or not, so parents are more cognizant of the possibility of toys in Halloween bags/buckets than when we were kids.

I mentioned plastic skull necklaces as one of the future box stuffers. I already have the charms in hand (I ordered them as a sample to see if they would work as game prizes at my organization's Halloween block party this year, but they weren't really quality enough to serve as standalone prizes), and my wife said they looked too much like that "Skull 'n' Bones" hard candy you see at the Dollar Tree around Halloween, so for that particular item, we've already decided to run strings through them before putting them in the boxes to ensure kids realize that it really is a necklace charm and not a piece of candy.

Another prize I've considered is mini monster pennants, which I could make pretty easily with craft felt and iron-on paper.  But I'm not really sure kids would care enough about them to make it worth the cost and effort.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: aura of foreboding on August 05, 2017, 02:33:57 PM
I have not heard of trick-or-treat givers being sued for choice of treats.  That's a new one.  The claimant would have to prove negligence on the part of the trick-or-treat giver.  I don't know how having a toy, as opposed to candy, could in any way, shape, or form be considered negligent.  I often received toys and candy in treat sacks.  It was never a problem.  Businesses actually distribute toys and candy during mall trick-or-treat events.  This would be one way-out lawsuit, and I imagine it would be hard to find legal representation for any potential claimants.  This guy is not McDonald's...  There's no cash cow. 
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: horrorhunter on August 05, 2017, 02:43:10 PM
Horrorhunter, I looked at the zombie buckets, but you only get 48 zombies per bucket (the rest are soldiers to battle the zombies, along with a few graveyard playset pieces), so I would have to buy six buckets to put a zombie in each box, and that's a little cost prohibitive. However, I did take your advice on the rings. I pulled a package from last year's Halloween block party out of storage and tested them; the spiders are a little tight, but all three versions fit, so that will be one of the "toys." Hopefully they'll have a mix of bats, skulls and spiders, as per usual (or, with my luck, this will be the year they decide to discontinue all of them...). The other will be a Halloween pencil topper/eraser in the shape of Frankenstein's monster, Dracula, a ghost, a witch, a bat or a jack-o-lantern (Drac is tight, but he still fits if I angle him the right way).

In addition, each box will contain a monster trading card, monster coloring card, monster sticker, piece of monster play money, (still to be printed), a business card for Frankenstein's laboratory to hear a recorded message from Igor (still to be printed because I don't have the free temporary phone number set up yet) and three candy chews (which I just picked up this morning at Dollar General).

Sounds good. I wasn't sure what your budget was on these and at around 10 cents each I knew the Walmart Zombies were the most inexpensive option for something resembling old school "Monster Grab Bag" type figures.

Since shipping cost will be a large part of what we'll be paying for a set of your Monster Halloween Boxes, and it won't cost much more to ship several sets than it will to ship one set, just put me down for 3 sets (unsealed). I plan to give the extras out to the TOTs for Hween and contribute to future monster memories  :). Let me know when they're available and I'll pay using PayPal. I have some of the Walmart Zombies so I'll spice mine up with a zombie per box if I can fit them in there. Great thing you're doing here, man. Much appreciated!  :)

 tynhrt
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: a71678 on August 05, 2017, 11:11:36 PM
Thanks again! You know, when I saw Mike's fantasy display box for the Phoenix monster boxes, I thought it might be cool to make a "collector's box" for mine. I worked on it on and off throughout today, and I kind of like how it turned out, though it may be slightly too large to print in one piece. I'll check with my friend at the printer's next week and find out. Even then, I'll see how much of a pain it is to put together (assuming it all fits together correctly) before I offer to mass produce them... but maybe.

(http://i.imgur.com/ZYZFEsE.jpg)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on August 05, 2017, 11:24:08 PM
I'm trying to assemble the box in my mind. Is the white part the bottom?
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: a71678 on August 06, 2017, 08:54:14 AM
The white part would be cut out with a piece of cellophane over it, and the boxes would sit side-by-side across it. It's not a retail box, per se, but a box to hold the set. If it even turns out to be feasible.

Edit: This is what I anticipate the front looking like, if it works:

(http://i.imgur.com/2mqH6m2.jpg)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: crue-leader on August 06, 2017, 09:09:29 AM
So here is a picture of  a few of the boxes I assembled this weekend. The printer printed these out for me on some very thin card stock. I knew they would be too flimsy so I went and bout some poster board and used Elmers glue spray adhesive and glued the printed sheets to it.
I think they came out pretty good. I am going to go back to the printer tomorrow and see if he has any heavier card stock he can offer.

The best way to perforate these so they bend evenly when you assemble them , is to score the backside of the yardstick. not the front.
These are really a work of art , thanks again for making these available.(http://i910.photobucket.com/albums/ac309/bigfoot1966/IMG_2586.jpg) (http://s910.photobucket.com/user/bigfoot1966/media/IMG_2586.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: crue-leader on August 06, 2017, 09:14:11 AM
So here is a picture of  a few of the boxes I assembled this weekend. The printer printed these out for me on some very thin card stock. I knew they would be too flimsy so I went and bout some poster board and used Elmers glue spray adhesive and glued the printed sheets to it.
I think they came out pretty good. I am going to go back to the printer tomorrow and see if he has any heavier card stock he can offer.

The best way to perforate these so they bend evenly when you assemble them , is to score the backside of the yardstick. not the front.
These are really a work of art , thanks again for making these available.([url]http://i910.photobucket.com/albums/ac309/bigfoot1966/IMG_2586.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s910.photobucket.com/user/bigfoot1966/media/IMG_2586.jpg.html[/url])



Okay so i guess it has been awhile since I used Photobucket and it looks like they want to charge me to post pictures now. Anyone know away around this or another site that doesn't charge?
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on August 06, 2017, 09:34:23 AM
Anyone know away around this or another site that doesn't charge?


Try http://www.tinypic.com (http://www.tinypic.com)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: crue-leader on August 06, 2017, 04:20:17 PM
I tried that site Mike, signed up and uploaded picture, said I was successful in uploading it yet there is nothing??
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on August 06, 2017, 04:22:55 PM
Well, tinypic is screwed up, too! I can't get it to work, either. Email me your pics and I'll post them till you get a host. ImageShack is only a couple bucks a months.

unifan2001(*at*)yahoo.com
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: horrorhunter on August 06, 2017, 04:46:18 PM
Well, tinypic is screwed up, too! I can't get it to work, either. Email me your pics and I'll post them till you get a host. ImageShack is only a couple bucks a months.

unifan2001(*at*)yahoo.com
I tried tinypic for awhile after I gave up on Photobucket but then I started having trouble with tinypic and contacted them. The response I received was from Photobucket so evidently tinypic is actually part of Photobucket. I've completely washed my hands of both now. I most recently used flickr and I didn't have any problem with them. If I decide to start posting regularly around here again I'll use flickr to have my avatar pic re-hosted.

BTW, I started all this with ImageShack and it was okay till they reneged on free hosting. I don't appreciate people changing the deal in "mid-stream" to suit them so I haven't bothered with ImageShack since. I don't care how cheap it is they ended up lying. This is one case where it really is the principle of the thing (2 bucks a month is near nothing nowadays). These hosting sites sell so many ads you can't even navigate the sites and still they try to milk money out of you. I'll have none of that BS. flickr is easy to navigate and free (so far), so I'm sticking with them as long as that's the case. This whole "picture hosting" situation has become a major pain in the *ss, with countless empty pics in old posts as a grim reminder.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on August 06, 2017, 05:17:55 PM
I tried tinypic for awhile after I gave up on Photobucket but then I started having trouble with tinypic and contacted them. The response I received was from Photobucket so evidently tinypic is actually part of Photobucket.

That explains it!
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: tylerh on August 07, 2017, 11:20:40 AM
This comment is for Mike Scott -
Many forums now offer photo hosting as part of the forum -  You upload the image and its hosted on the forum server, so there is no need for imageshack, postimage, etc....

This is two fold - It is easier to post images, and since they are hosted by the forum, they dont disappear when the user closes an acct, or an image host site changes its policies, etc...  So there is a much better system of archiving for the site -

There have been so many times I have looked in old threads here because I wanted to see something, only to have all the image links broken.  I think this feature would really add value to the site!

Just my 2 cents!
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Monsters For Sale on August 07, 2017, 11:53:21 AM
...There have been so many times I have looked in old threads here because I wanted to see something, only to have all the image links broken.  ...

Sometimes posters "clean house" where they are storing their images and delete no longer wanted images - especially if they are using limited free services.  Or, they replace existing pictures with larger, clearer ones. 
When they do, the unintended result is wiping out pictures posted here.

I try to avoid this by setting up a separate "Album" on Flickr where I park a copy of anything posted here.  That way, I will see I should not delete it for any reason.  Seems to work.

I do wonder what will happen when old geezers like me croak (any day now), and no one is willing to pay my yearly fee to Flickr.  Years of posts will become text only.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: tylerh on August 07, 2017, 12:38:12 PM

"Sometimes posters "clean house" where they are storing their images and delete no longer wanted images - especially if they are using limited free services.  Or, they replace existing pictures with larger, clearer ones. 
When they do, the unintended result is wiping out pictures posted here."


Exactly - and all that great archived information  and photos are permanently lost.  If the UMA site itself hosted the images, they would never be lost (so long as the site existed)


Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on August 07, 2017, 01:17:31 PM
So there is a much better system of archiving for the site -

Yeah, but it's not free! Terry pays for the board and I don't think he wants to pay more for photo hosting. Considering the few people who still post here, I'm not sure how much longer this board will be around? Everybody's going the FB. I think there's an UMA on FB?
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Monsters For Sale on August 07, 2017, 01:30:05 PM
...Considering the few people who still post here, I'm not sure how much longer this board will be around?.../quote]


(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4348/35621689783_a0697f97a5_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on August 07, 2017, 01:36:00 PM
Aw! What a quite puppy dog! (I mean cute!)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Monsters For Sale on August 07, 2017, 01:38:29 PM
Aw! What a quite puppy dog!

Oh, great.  Now I can't look at it without seeing a quite puppy!
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on August 07, 2017, 03:12:46 PM
I meant cute! I don't know what happened?
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Monsters For Sale on August 07, 2017, 03:16:14 PM
I meant cute! I don't know what happened?

Temporary fingers/brain disconnect.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: crue-leader on August 07, 2017, 05:35:50 PM
Okay so , I am trying Flickr here is the BBCode

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4372/36433138395_8e06ff3cd7_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XvtmJx)IMG_2586 (https://flic.kr/p/XvtmJx) by James Huffman (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150718203(*at*)N08/), on Flickr

Here is the Embed:
<a data-flickr-embed="true"  href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/150718203(*at*)N08/36433138395/in/dateposted-public/" title="IMG_2586"><img src="https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4372/36433138395_8e06ff3cd7_k.jpg" width="2048" height="1536" alt="IMG_2586"></a><script async src="//embedr.flickr.com/assets/client-code.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: crue-leader on August 07, 2017, 05:36:35 PM
Yayyyyyy thanks everyone for pointing me in the right direction with this.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on August 07, 2017, 06:02:36 PM
Hey! Those look great!  :)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: aura of foreboding on August 07, 2017, 06:18:39 PM
I'm not sure how much longer this board will be around? Everybody's going the FB. I think there's an UMA on FB?

 Not good news...  Not good news at all.    :(
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on August 07, 2017, 06:44:22 PM
Not good news...  Not good news at all.    :(

Of course, if it doesn't cost Terry any money, why would he care if there's only 12 of us? So, think about how much you would be willing to pay to come here. I donate every month!  :)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: a71678 on August 07, 2017, 06:49:53 PM
Wow, Crue! Those look amazing!
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: crue-leader on August 08, 2017, 05:29:25 AM
Here is a couple more shots of a few of the boxes I completed.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4435/35606591304_2d88f06dc6_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Wfr65C)FullSizeRender (https://flic.kr/p/Wfr65C) by James Huffman (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150718203(*at*)N08/), on Flickr(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4364/35606590454_700f93d561_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Wfr5PY)IMG_2588 (https://flic.kr/p/Wfr5PY) by James Huffman (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150718203(*at*)N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Maceo1 on August 08, 2017, 06:39:22 AM
They look so good. Doing some of my own, but I changed the James Cagney Hunchback to Lon Chaney version.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/914x552q90/924/OgXHry.jpg)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Maceo1 on August 08, 2017, 07:17:48 AM
I also reworked The Phantom box art to my own liking.
(https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/900x552q90/923/ocxvnU.jpg)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on August 08, 2017, 10:10:38 AM
Of course, we all would have liked it if Phoenix had used the Chaney Phantom photos, instead of the model kit, but they didn't. (Dern it!)

When I did the fantasy Hunchback, I tried to think of how Phoenix might have done it, mirroring the Phantom model kit on the back. I used the Cagney image on the front because Universal seemed to prefer images they had under copyright, at the time.

That's why Matt used the Universal "Mr. Hyde" over the 1932 version.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Maceo1 on August 08, 2017, 10:39:58 AM
Of course, understood. But since I am doing some fantasy and repro boxes for the family/friends, figured I would make them a bit more pleasing.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Monsters For Sale on August 08, 2017, 10:50:48 AM

I wonder why the Frankenstein was the only box done in Orange?

I kinda like the orange & black - more Halloween-y.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: crue-leader on August 08, 2017, 11:32:43 AM
If I could just find someone that made reproductions of the Planet of the Apes Phoenix boxes that would be awesome.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Maceo1 on August 08, 2017, 12:15:48 PM
If nobody here has the box layouts, you could always ask "creativepal" on etsy. He does amazing work and has some cool monster items as well.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on August 08, 2017, 01:16:39 PM
But since I am doing some fantasy and repro boxes for the family/friends, figured I would make them a bit more pleasing.

Oh, by all means! Make all the fantast items you want!  :)  I love your Phantom and Hunchback!  I also did a Bride box for the World Candies set and started a Horror Hosts set.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on August 08, 2017, 01:18:02 PM
If I could just find someone that made reproductions of the Planet of the Apes Phoenix boxes that would be awesome.

Do you have any large scans of them?
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on August 08, 2017, 01:51:37 PM
Here's some nice scans. Could have been a little bigger, but hey, gift horse and all that! Click, or save, for larger pics.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6022/5952106730_e15acab948_b.jpg)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6128/5952096308_8546363bfa_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on August 09, 2017, 09:22:30 PM
Here's also the stand up part of the die-cut box top. Make it whatever size you like, I guess?

(http://imageshack.com/a/img923/8954/c0nrd3.jpg)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: a71678 on September 03, 2017, 08:27:20 PM
Outer shells (e.g. boxes) are done! Still working on some of the "stuffing."

(https://i.imgur.com/d5ZpxEr.jpg)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Palifan on September 03, 2017, 08:38:44 PM
Well they look glorious all together in a box, fantastic work.

Ian
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: aura of foreboding on September 03, 2017, 10:25:50 PM
Awesome!
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Count Zero on September 05, 2017, 08:26:23 AM
i cant wait!
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: darkmonkeygod on September 05, 2017, 03:33:34 PM
They look great!
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Hepcat on September 18, 2017, 09:57:05 AM
Outer shells (e.g. boxes) are done! Still working on some of the "stuffing."

Wow! Those look fabulous!

 8)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: a71678 on October 03, 2017, 12:45:26 PM
Finally received the last of the printed material!  Hoping to start stuffing the boxes this weekend.  For those who have asked about purchasing full sets, it looks like with shipping they're going to run about $15 (Paypal preferred).  For those who have asked about multiple sets or individual items, I'll figure out shipping on a case-by-case basis and let you know the total.

I'm away next week, but hope to start shipping in mid-October.  If you're interested, PM me and I'll send my Paypal information (or mailing address, if you'd prefer to pay via check).  Thanks to everyone for their support throughout this process!
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: horrorhunter on October 04, 2017, 01:04:32 PM
Since the Custom Monster Halloween Boxes are pillow boxes they won't stand on a shelf and would have to be leaned against something. Since we don't have a proper display box to stand them in I decided to pick up a Halloween themed item to display mine in. I bought one of these spider-web plastic bowls at Dollar Tree to display them. It isn't as good as a custom display box with holes for the individual boxes, but in the absence of that it will suffice.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/26/a3/aa/26a3aa316cb111aaa1fa7f7191d27a5f.jpg)

I hope to include a Best Plastics flat in each of the boxes (1 set) that I plan to add to my collection (if they'll fit). I have a few extra Best flats I was going to sell but I thought it would be cool to spice up my boxes with a little vintage monster goodness. I have an extra Frank and Creature and those will go in their respective boxes. The other four boxes will get a dino or caveman (as was the case with the original Horror Monsters Grab Bags which actually got 2 Best flats but I'll probably be lucky to fit one extra in there as tight as Jason will be packing these things). I also ordered a few empty boxes to stuff with my own treats...and they won't be Best flats.  :laugh:  If they'll fit I'll use Big Bucket Of Monsters figures but those might be a little too wide. Otherwise I'll use Walmart Zombies, along with some candy and whatever else I can scrounge up in the basement of monster stuff.

How are you other guys going to display your Custom Monster Halloween Boxes? Or, do you plan to just store them away (which would be a shame considering how cool they look)?

 tynhrt
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: a71678 on October 05, 2017, 07:16:52 AM
Nice baskets! As of last night, all the items are cut out and the first box is stuffed. I'm not entirely happy with the monster money. The fronts (which are the most important part) look the way they should, but the backs are all about an eighth of an inch off-center vertically, virtually eliminating the bottom border. Oh well; they were the most expensive interior "stuffer," so I'm still going to use them, but they might not make a return next year. For those placing orders, I'm not putting the money in the boxes, but packaging it with them since it has to be folded in order to fit.  I'll let you decide whether you want to fold yours to put them inside your boxes or leave them "mint."

Horrorhunter, based on my first "test" stuffing, I doubt you're going to be able to squeeze much more in there! Everything fits more snugly than I expected, and I had to try a few different positionings to get it all in. Definitely more than a nickel's worth of stuff in each box.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: horrorhunter on October 05, 2017, 12:27:53 PM
Horrorhunter, based on my first "test" stuffing, I doubt you're going to be able to squeeze much more in there! Everything fits more snugly than I expected, and I had to try a few different positionings to get it all in. Definitely more than a nickel's worth of stuff in each box.
Hey, no problem. I like to keep my collectibles "pure" anyway. Maybe I'll custom design another set of the empty boxes with some of my extra vintage items. It's shaping up to be a good Halloween season with these custom boxes and the Monsterville stuff.

BTW, the new Overstreet Guide To Collecting Horror is released now and looks interesting. My copy is on the way. It's supposed to cover monster mags, toys, posters, and several other areas of monster collecting. It will be interesting to see how accurate the info is in it, especially the pricing. The Overstreet Comic Book Price Guide is a wealth of information for comic fans, even though some of the prices don't necessarily reflect the market accurately. Hopefully the new Horror guide will offer some good info for monster collectors. Just one more thing to add to the fun this Halloween.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Monsters For Sale on October 05, 2017, 12:40:26 PM
...BTW, the new Overstreet Guide To Collecting Horror is released now and looks interesting....   ... It will be interesting to see how accurate the info is in it, especially the pricing. ...

I'd like to see their estimated valuation for a good condition Clinton Toys 1964 Glenn Strange Frankenstein Bucket.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Hepcat on October 07, 2017, 12:55:58 PM
I also did a Bride box for the World Candies set and started a Horror Hosts set.

Huh?! What? Where? How? For whom? What's this all about?

 ???
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on October 07, 2017, 03:03:11 PM
Huh?! What? Where? How?


Right here.

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img922/2487/3xGJun.jpg)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: fmofmpls on October 11, 2017, 08:06:18 PM
Once again, Iím reminded just how talented you are Mike! Thatís gorgeous.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on October 11, 2017, 11:01:11 PM
Once again, Iím reminded just how talented you are Mike! Thatís gorgeous.

Didn't you do the Bride art? I know it wasn't me.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: a71678 on October 18, 2017, 08:02:21 AM
Just a note to let everyone who ordered know that the boxes will be shipped today! Thanks again to everyone for your support.

Also, if anyone wants to call 302-316-3659, I think you'll like what you hear.  It's the number that ultimately ended up on the "Frankenstein's Laboratory" business cards that are inserted in the boxes :)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Monsters For Sale on October 18, 2017, 08:44:18 AM
...boxes will be shipped today! ...

Sent my money!

Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Palifan on October 18, 2017, 12:06:05 PM
Just a note to let everyone who ordered know that the boxes will be shipped today! Thanks again to everyone for your support.

Also, if anyone wants to call 302-316-3659, I think you'll like what you hear.  It's the number that ultimately ended up on the "Frankenstein's Laboratory" business cards that are inserted in the boxes :)

Great news! Hopefully my check cleared by now and it's on it's way as I'm really looking forward to seeing these.

Well done all round and just in time for Halloween!

Ian
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: aura of foreboding on October 18, 2017, 06:01:30 PM
Just a note to let everyone who ordered know that the boxes will be shipped today! Thanks again to everyone for your support.

Also, if anyone wants to call 302-316-3659, I think you'll like what you hear.  It's the number that ultimately ended up on the "Frankenstein's Laboratory" business cards that are inserted in the boxes :)

Wonderful!  I look forward to receiving them.  Thank you!  :)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: horrorhunter on October 18, 2017, 07:40:10 PM
Just a note to let everyone who ordered know that the boxes will be shipped today! Thanks again to everyone for your support.

Also, if anyone wants to call 302-316-3659, I think you'll like what you hear.  It's the number that ultimately ended up on the "Frankenstein's Laboratory" business cards that are inserted in the boxes :)
Excellent!

For the other folks who ordered these, do you plan to display them with your collection, and if so then how?

As I posted earlier in the thread I bought one of these plastic spider-web Halloween baskets at Dollar Tree to display mine in.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/26/a3/aa/26a3aa316cb111aaa1fa7f7191d27a5f.jpg)

I'm nearly out of space so I set the basket on my monster mag boxes in what little room that's left there and I'll just lay the boxes flat in there. Those pillow boxes wouldn't set upright on a shelf anyway unless they were leaned so I looked for an appropriate container to lay them in. They look too cool to just hide away in a box somewhere.

Just curious as to how some of you fellows are going to display yours. Oh yeah, Happy Halloween!   tynhrt
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on October 18, 2017, 08:59:37 PM
Send a pic of your boxes in the DT basket.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: horrorhunter on October 19, 2017, 01:46:32 PM
Send a pic of your boxes in the DT basket.
I probably won't do that. I'm tired of all the hoop jumping to post 3rd party hosted pics only to have them disappear en masse at some point for one reason or another. If I can't hot-link to a pic already on the internet I just forget it.

No responses to my question eh? So, nobody else is actually going to display their custom monster boxes? Pity.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: aura of foreboding on October 19, 2017, 05:52:17 PM
So, nobody else is actually going to display their custom monster boxes? Pity.

Nah...  I think I'll just spend some cash on something and throw it in a cardboard box and hide it away for the rest of my life.   ::)

Pretty sure we just haven't figured it out yet... but we will.   ;D
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: horrorhunter on October 19, 2017, 08:12:57 PM
Nah...  I think I'll just spend some cash on something and throw it in a cardboard box and hide it away for the rest of my life.   ::)

Pretty sure we just haven't figured it out yet... but we will.   ;D
It isn't uncommon for collectors to buy cheap items and store them away. Many of us are almost out of space to display things and have to keep shuffling things around to find that extra bit of room. I keep thinking I'm just about out of room and I figure a way to squeeze that next thing in somehow. I just have to tap out on big things anymore and stick them in the basement (like big Halloween blowmolds and too many candy buckets).

Since these custom Halloween boxes are pillow boxes that adds another problem to displaying them. The Dollar Tree basket was about the best I could come up with. If someone has other ideas let us know.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: horrorhunter on October 20, 2017, 04:44:21 PM
Got my Hween boxes today. Very cool, thanks Jason.

I slipped a Best Plastics flat in each box of the set I'm keeping to give them a '60s feel. One flat can be added to the other contents but it's tight. The set looks nice in the Dollar Tree basket. If one were so inclined a set of the boxes are small enough to be leaned up on your monster shelves pretty easily. My shelves are really crowded so I opted for the basket. Looks cool in the Monster/Halloween display.

There are going to be some happy TOTs this Halloween thanks to Jason.  ;)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Monsters For Sale on October 23, 2017, 03:41:01 PM

Got my box today - VERY NICE.  Thankss

I like the little "Frankenstein Coloring Card" and other items.  What a nice packet of goodies.  I thought this would be cool.  I just didn't know it would be this cool.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Palifan on October 23, 2017, 04:13:39 PM
Got my box today - VERY NICE.  Thankss

I like the little "Frankenstein Coloring Card" and other items.  What a nice packet of goodies.  I thought this would be cool.  I just didn't know it would be this cool.

The same as above for me to, fantastic set of goodies and securely packed as well, always an extra bonus when people take the time to send things properly.

It's turning out to be a great Halloween already and it's not even the main event yet!

Ian
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: a71678 on October 24, 2017, 08:52:06 AM
Thanks, all, for the kind words.  I've received a lot of good feedback so far, but perhaps the most important has been from kids.  My friend's 4-year-old daughter was impressed with the box and its contents (though she couldn't read any of the jokes...), and I have a co-worker who anticipates her daughter is going to love hers when she gets it later this week.  Of course, the biggest test will come in just seven days!
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Monsters For Sale on October 24, 2017, 10:21:41 AM

How many boxes did you make?
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: a71678 on October 24, 2017, 03:58:33 PM
252 (42 of each).
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: aura of foreboding on October 24, 2017, 07:55:21 PM
Got mine!  Woweeeeeeeee!  Beautiful!  Thank you so much! 
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: a71678 on November 02, 2017, 12:45:32 PM
Just a quick recap now that all the (Halloween) screaming is done.  We had 176 trick-or-treaters, and each one got a box.  I also gave a couple to people at work for their kids and held a couple to send to long-distance friends to give their kids when we exchange Christmas gifts via mail next month.  The handful I have left I'll just add fresh candy to and throw into the pile with next year's designs.

Speaking of which....

(https://i.imgur.com/S4Zcs75.jpg)          (https://i.imgur.com/Do5oPTS.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/u3i25hj.jpg)          (https://i.imgur.com/FDnqwCy.jpg)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: darkmonkeygod on November 02, 2017, 04:08:05 PM
Speaking of which....

Super cool!

Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Hepcat on November 10, 2017, 10:22:44 AM
252 (42 of each).

Just a quick recap now that all the (Halloween) screaming is done.  We had 176 trick-or-treaters, and each one got a box.

So glad you got an excellent turnout but didn't run out of boxes!

 8)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: a71678 on December 19, 2017, 12:23:57 PM
So what does one do with leftover Halloween boxes? Figure out a way to use them for Christmas, of course! I made these for some friends' and co-workers' kids:

(https://i.imgur.com/GGSVfUf.jpg)

That's the back of a Mummy box you see on the left (covered by Santa and the gummy bears on the other side).

I also got around to making the "Svengoolie" boxes I think I mentioned earlier.  They're on their way to the MeTV studio in Chicago, along with a full set of leftover monster boxes.  Maybe my handiwork will end up on TV!  (But probably not... hopefully someone there gets a kick out of them anyway).

(https://i.imgur.com/4Iu432K.jpg)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Hepcat on December 19, 2017, 10:44:47 PM
That's the Xmas spirit alright!

 ;D
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: a71678 on February 16, 2018, 08:35:05 PM
So following up from my December post, I wasn't able to be home to watch last Saturday's "Svengoolie," so I asked my wife to DVR it for me. I finally got around to watching it this evening, and...

(https://i.imgur.com/mBNCidA.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5IjPBFr.jpg)

I'm beyond thrilled!
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on February 16, 2018, 08:40:26 PM
Cool! Do you know if any of that other stuff is Sven fan made?
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Monsters For Sale on February 16, 2018, 09:34:24 PM
So following up from my December post, I wasn't able to be home to watch last Saturday's "Svengoolie," so I asked my wife to DVR it for me. I finally got around to watching it this evening, and... 

Right up front for all the world to see - and ask about.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: a71678 on February 16, 2018, 09:43:09 PM
The big Sven head in the middle is fan made and also was featured on Saturday's show. I think the painted coffins to the right (or ones similar to them) also were sent in by fans at one point, but not featured in this episode. I vaguely recall some similar fan-made coffins from a show a year or two ago.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Hepcat on February 17, 2018, 02:37:40 PM
So following up from my December post, I wasn't able to be home to watch last Saturday's "Svengoolie," so I asked my wife to DVR it for me. I finally got around to watching it this evening, and....

Wow!

I'm beyond thrilled!

And rightly so!

 8)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: horrorhunter on September 02, 2018, 04:11:06 PM
Here's my display of the Monster Halloween Boxes:

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1772/44076209881_8c4df00610_b.jpg)

I added a Best Plastics Monster Flat to each box. They fit in but it's a tight squeeze.  ;D
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: horrorhunter on September 02, 2018, 04:14:18 PM
Just a quick recap now that all the (Halloween) screaming is done.  We had 176 trick-or-treaters, and each one got a box.  I also gave a couple to people at work for their kids and held a couple to send to long-distance friends to give their kids when we exchange Christmas gifts via mail next month.  The handful I have left I'll just add fresh candy to and throw into the pile with next year's designs.

Speaking of which....

(https://i.imgur.com/S4Zcs75.jpg)          (https://i.imgur.com/Do5oPTS.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/u3i25hj.jpg)          (https://i.imgur.com/FDnqwCy.jpg)
Will you be selling new Monster Halloween Boxes in UMAland this year?
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: a71678 on September 03, 2018, 06:15:04 PM
Sure! I'm making only two different ones this year, so the price will be lower for the "set." I'll have to figure out how to package them and how much shipping will be. It would be easier to ship them flat, with the inserts "on the side," and let the recipients assemble them, but most last year preferred them as they were meant to be.

These little boxes have afforded me some fun, unexpected opportunities in the past year. In addition to the "Svengoolie" appearance, examples are now part of the Castle Halloween Museum in Carlisle, PA. And I hope to be able to post something else pretty exciting in relation to last year's boxes later this month, but I don't want to jinx it.

I'm planning for next year's boxes to be dinosaur themed, mostly because I was able to pick up all the inserts already at a decent price. I'll post a sample in early November, as I did last year for this year's. Things could always change, but right now I have enough themes planned to last through 2038, with partial-to-full designs completed for all but two of them. If things go as planned, I'll have at least one "envelope" item, one "bagged" item and one special-shaped candy box to add to the mix in the next few years.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: horrorhunter on September 03, 2018, 09:33:28 PM
Sure! I'm making only two different ones this year, so the price will be lower for the "set." I'll have to figure out how to package them and how much shipping will be. It would be easier to ship them flat, with the inserts "on the side," and let the recipients assemble them, but most last year preferred them as they were meant to be.

These little boxes have afforded me some fun, unexpected opportunities in the past year. In addition to the "Svengoolie" appearance, examples are now part of the Castle Halloween Museum in Carlisle, PA. And I hope to be able to post something else pretty exciting in relation to last year's boxes later this month, but I don't want to jinx it.

I'm planning for next year's boxes to be dinosaur themed, mostly because I was able to pick up all the inserts already at a decent price. I'll post a sample in early November, as I did last year for this year's. Things could always change, but right now I have enough themes planned to last through 2038, with partial-to-full designs completed for all but two of them. If things go as planned, I'll have at least one "envelope" item, one "bagged" item and one special-shaped candy box to add to the mix in the next few years.
All of that sounds wonderful. Count me in for extra copies of both of this years offerings. The dino boxes sound very cool to me since I'm a Dino Kid at heart. I even have some extra Best Plastics Flats Dinos to add to the Kong and Godzilla boxes, and to the Dino boxes next year. I'll have to be on the lookout for an extra Best King Kong and T-Rex to eventually add to the Kong and Godzilla boxes.

These may seem trivial to some, but they have the spirit and vibe of the great nickel grab bags of old that we Monster Kids grew up enjoying, such as the Horror Monsters Grab Bags and the Spooky Surprise Grab Bags. They're important to some of us collectors and they're making a lot a trick-r-treaters happy and may turn some of them into future monster collectors. Your efforts are appreciated.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: a71678 on September 16, 2018, 01:47:02 PM
So I said I was hoping I could post something exciting related to my Halloween boxes this month, and yesterday was the day!

(https://i.imgur.com/PLnrOig.jpg)
This is me with Ricou Browning, who portrayed the Creature from the Black Lagoon for the underwater shots and is the last surviving actor to have played an original classic Universal monster.

(https://i.imgur.com/c6Pl6fY.jpg)
And this is his autograph on one of my candy boxes!
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: horrorhunter on November 08, 2018, 02:55:32 PM
Gifts from Jason: King Kong Box, Godzilla Box, Dinosaur Box (next year's sample), and 2 Monster Markers (I added the Best Flats):

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4902/45060151564_d369a182b5_b.jpg)

Kong Box Contents
- King Kong Standee Cutout
- 3 Plastic Soldiers
- Both Photo Joke Cards (normally 1 per box)
- Sticker
- 3 pieces of candy
- King Kong Best Plastics Flat (added by me)

Godzilla Box Contents
- Godzilla Standee Cutout
- 3 Plastic Soldiers
- Both Photo Joke Cards (normally 1 per box)
- Sticker
- 3 pieces of candy
- Dinosaur Best Plastics Flat (Gray Trachodon, added by me)

Prehistoric Prize Pack Contents (sample for next Halloween)
- 3D Image on Box Back
- Pair of 3D Glasses
- Toy Dino
- Photo Joke Card
- Fossil Tooth
- Stegosaurus Tattoo
- Apatosaurus Pencil Topper
- 3 pieces of candy
- Best Plastics Flat (Blue Parasaurolophus, added by me)

Yeah, everything fits in the boxes.

Thanks, Jason. I christen you the Halloween Treat Box Guru.  :)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: a71678 on November 13, 2018, 03:57:37 PM
Thanks! I'm glad you liked them, and I apologize again for the delay. I will do my best to wield my new title with all the heft and dignity it deserves!
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: ZaiDejrio on January 20, 2019, 12:25:55 AM
What kind of candy and toys did the Meet my Pal Phoenix Candy-boxes contain back in the 60's?
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Hepcat on January 21, 2019, 11:52:53 AM
Great question!

(http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/3117/phoenixwrapperdc8.jpg)

Hopefully somebody can answer it.

 :)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Hepcat on January 21, 2019, 01:43:30 PM
Quote from: Mike Scott
COUNTER DISPLAY BOX

And here is the (fantasy) counter display box for your Phoenix Candy box repros and fantasy boxes.

Base box front (the back is plain) and side panels.

([url]http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/8949/counterboxflrrd4.jpg[/url])

Box "top".

([url]http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8866/counterboxtmm6.jpg[/url])


That is not I understand a picture of how the actual box from 1963 looked.

 ???

Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on January 21, 2019, 09:30:05 PM
That is not I understand a picture of how the actual box from 1963 looked.

Total fantasy box. I've never seen, even a bad picture of, a real Phoenix monsters counter box.


The candy was likely some hard tac candy wrapped in the wrapper shown above. The toy could have been one of any number of small plastic toys around at that time. It would have been nice if they had used the Best Plastics "Palmer Flats" monsters. Could have been little jigglers, like a spider, or bug.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on January 21, 2019, 09:34:55 PM
Welcome to the UMA, ZaiDejrio !   :)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Hepcat on January 22, 2019, 11:31:10 AM

(https://i.imgur.com/PLnrOig.jpg)

This is me with Ricou Browning, who portrayed the Creature from the Black Lagoon for the underwater shots and is the last surviving actor to have played an original classic Universal monster.

Huh?! I thought the Creature was green. And where are his gills?

 ???

Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Hepcat on January 22, 2019, 11:38:02 AM
Quote from: Mike Scott
Here are the 6 Phoenix Candy reproduction boxes and 6 more fantasy boxes.

([url]http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/8783/phoenixfranksmis1.jpg[/url])

([url]http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/4451/phoenixdracsmjk7.jpg[/url])

([url]http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/7625/phoenixcreaturesmoy3.jpg[/url])

([url]http://imageshack.com/a/img923/6301/tUlF8b.jpg[/url])

([url]http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/1072/phoenixmummysmak0.jpg[/url])

([url]http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/2785/phoenixphantomsm.jpg[/url])

The original (1963) series of Phoenix Candy boxes included:

1. FRANKENSTEIN
2. DRACULA
3. THE CREATURE
4. THE WOLF MAN
5. THE MUMMY
6. THE PHANTOM

We have only front and back panels of some boxes and incomplete boxes for others, so the missing sides were made using our best guesses, based on a few complete boxes.


Which complete boxes do you have, or have at least seen? Is the picture on all the above boxes the one Phoenix used on each of the original boxes back in 1963?

 ???
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on January 22, 2019, 02:41:42 PM
Which complete boxes do you have, or have at least seen? Is the picture on all the above boxes the one Phoenix used on each of the original boxes back in 1963?

I don't have any originals. I got good pics of the front and back panels for all but the Phantom (back only). Found a small pic that showed the Phantom front, so I was able to make a decent repro. I have pics of all 6 sides of the Creature and Dracula boxes. Have one or two other sides (besides F and B) for a couple of other boxes.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Hepcat on January 23, 2019, 03:57:41 PM
I don't have any originals.


Here are some pics of an original Phoenix Frankenstein Candy box then:

(https://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/General%20Album%203001/frankenstein-candy-box-universal_1_fcad1da42ed27d64cd193b366078e709_zpswire2som.jpg)

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/General%20Album%203001/frankenstein-candy-box-universal_1_fcad1da42ed27d64cd193b366k078e709_zpshpbj7m6t.jpg)

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/General%20Album%203001/frankenstein-candy-box-universal_1_fcad1da42ed27d64cd193b366078e70i9_zpslmgqvfmw.jpg)

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/General%20Album%203001/frankenstein-candy-box-universal_1_fcad1da42ed27d64cd193hb366078e709_zpsd9oxjpdh.jpg)

 cl:)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on January 23, 2019, 04:31:59 PM
Here are some pics of an original Phoenix Frankenstein Candy box then:

Oops! I screwed up on the "ingredients" side of the Frank box. The text placement is a bit different than all the others.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Hepcat on January 23, 2019, 09:22:23 PM
So then you just corrected Phoenix's error, that's all.

 ;)
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: Mike Scott on January 23, 2019, 10:08:38 PM
So then you just corrected Phoenix's error, that's all.

Maybe I'll get ambitious and fix it, some day.  :-\
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: ZaiDejrio on February 11, 2019, 11:56:12 PM
Welcome to the UMA, ZaiDejrio !   :)

Thank you :)
I'm glad I stumbled upon this nice place.
Title: Re: Monster Halloween boxes
Post by: a71678 on August 13, 2019, 10:03:49 PM
It's time to resurrect this thread for 2019! This year's boxes are printed and ready for die-cutting and assembling. Right now I'm working on putting together the "stuffing," more of which is custom made this year and, hence, requires more time and effort than in previous years. I'll post previews soon.

In the meantime, I had the opportunity to travel to Chicago for a convention a couple weeks ago, and Svengoolie just happened to be signing autographs at a different event right across the street! Fortunately, I knew this in advance, so I had my box with his face on it that appeared on his show last year reprinted and asked him to sign it for me. He recognized it right away and said, "Are you the one who made these?" Then he called his handler over and said, "Remember when we had these on the show?" The whole exchange was filmed for his "Svengoolie on the Road" segment, but who knows how much, if any, will actually make the cut?

It was a really fun experience. I have the signed box in my vault, right next to the "Creature" box signed by Ricou Browning.

(https://i.imgur.com/eQQZXiv.jpg)