Universal Monster Army

I'm glad you could join me here today. Our lesson this week deals with differentiating vampires from other creatures of the supernatural.

Now this, class, is a vampire:


(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/Dracula2.jpg)


This though is a fairy:


(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/Twilight_zps2fdcb0ad.png)


Got it? Questions anyone?


???

So, a vampire sneers and commands, while a fairy pouts and sparkles. Got it!

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Thanks, Prof!

So, do werewolves look like Oliver Reed in "Curse of the Werewolf" or more like CGI mini-van-sized malamutes?

I'm confused.  I always thought vampires looked like Bela Lugosi not Count Dooku . . .

Quote from: Unknown Primate on November 28, 2013, 07:19:53 PMSo, do werewolves look like Oliver Reed in "Curse of the Werewolf" or more like CGI mini-van-sized malamutes?

Good for you! I see you're already ahead in the text. We'll cover that lesson next week though.

Quote from: Fester on November 28, 2013, 08:04:37 PMI always thought vampires looked like Bela Lugosi not Count Dooku....

Ahhhhhh, but since the form of vampires is derived from that of humans, you will find as much variance in appearance of vampires as you do in humans. Therefore the image below is that of a perfectly respectable vampire.


(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/dracula-gogos_zpsc8e0c77f.png)


Attitude, carriage, mannerisms, these are the things that are key to differentiating at a glance between vampires and fairies, elves or pixies. Note in particular the regal bearing of the subject above.


cl:)

Do I get extra points on my exam if I know that some 'real' vampires, when you look into their eyes, you can see bats?

Are your exams based on curves?

Quote from: Flower on November 28, 2013, 08:40:06 PMDo I get extra points on my exam if I know that some 'real' vampires, when you look into their eyes, you can see bats?

Yes, batting your eyes has been known to produce that effect.

Quote from: Flower on November 28, 2013, 08:40:06 PMAre your exams based on curves?

Yes, I admit there have been occasions when I've had to resort to grading on the curve.


(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/Ingrid1_zps72aabbb1.jpg)


:-\

I'd give those curves a top grade! Ingrid Pitt was soooo sexy!

Mr. Hepcat? How do the vampire transforms into a giant bat, how they do it? Do they said the magic word or slowly transforming in a way any werewolves do?

Or they just pop into smoke where there is a giant bat that takes place of the vampire's spot?

Careful observation of the behaviour of vampires reveals that they transform into bats instantly in a puff of smoke through sheer force of will with nary a magic word uttered.

tynhrt

I believe Bugs Bunny provided the answer to how vampires transform to bats when he met Transylvanian vampire Count Bloodcount in the 1963 Chuck Jones directed Loony Tune Transylvania 6-500. The undead blood sucker must use the mystic phrase "Hocus Pocus" to transform to a bat and the equally mysterious arcane phrase "Abra Cadabra" to change back.
Transylvania 6-5000 on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/1739813)

How do you explain the strange and unusual existential of the Bunnicula? The rabbit that suck all the juice out of the vegetables in return that those vegetables turns into white unless things to eat. Do you ever meet Chester the cat and Harold the dog?

(http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o581/Sly_werewolf/pb240070_zps87e22715.jpg) (http://s1149.photobucket.com/user/Sly_werewolf/media/pb240070_zps87e22715.jpg.html)

Quote from: RedKing on November 29, 2013, 07:48:01 PMI believe Bugs Bunny provided the answer to how vampires transform to bats when he met Transylvanian vampire Count Bloodcount in the 1963 Chuck Jones directed Loony Tune Transylvania 6-500. The undead blood sucker must use the mystic phrase "Hocus Pocus" to transform to a bat and the equally mysterious arcane phrase "Abra Cadabra" to change back.

Count Bloodcount was clearly not a very powerful vampire then. Truly powerful ones like those I pictured above don't even need to say those words under their breath; all they need to do is think those words.

cl:)

I saw this guy on my front steps this evening .. excuse me while I get my garlic out ...

(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6696433152/h6F1808CB/)

All cats are naturally allergic to...
ALL CATS IS VAMPIRES!!!

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Quote from: Hepcat on November 28, 2013, 05:47:42 PM
I'm glad you could join me here today. Our lesson this week deals with differentiating vampires from other creatures of the supernatural.

Now this, class, is a vampire:

This though is a fairy:

One is a fierce vampire and the other is a sensitive girly-man-want-to-be vampire.
It's an easy task to identify the actual vamp from the wanna-be-vamp.
('Still have NO idea why that one show is actually popular & how sad it is popular)...

Quote from: Sly Wolf on November 29, 2013, 09:24:56 PMHow do you explain the strange and unusual existential of the Bunnicula? The rabbit that suck all the juice out of the vegetables in return that those vegetables turns into white unless things to eat. Do you ever meet Chester the cat and Harold the dog?

Your question requires more research.

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/Professor_Cat_Wallpaper_qpapj_zps65b9d158.jpg)

The workings of recombinant DNA in these matters is still not fully understood.

:-\

Quote from: Unknown Primate on November 28, 2013, 07:19:53 PM

So, do werewolves look like Oliver Reed in "Curse of the Werewolf" or more like CGI mini-van-sized malamutes?

No, werewolves are not van-sized. While the effects of recombinant DNA are not fully understood and the effects of the application of wolf bane vary widely from individual to individual (which is not surprising since we as humans vary widely from individual to individual), careful observation of such effects suggests four hard and fast commonalities:

1. Werewolves are man sized. How big they are tends to be largely a function of the underlying human subject.

2. Like humans they are bipedal.

3. They are generally flat-faced. They do not have elongated wolf-like snouts. Human DNA seems to be dominant when it comes to general skull shape.

4. Typically werewolves still keep at least their pants on when subjected to the light of a full moon. Werewolves seem to be asexual. They don't mate with their victims; they just tear them apart.

Here from my studies are some good examples of werewolves:

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/WolfMan2_zps758806f3.jpg)

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/Werewolf-Copy_zps3adfed47.jpg)

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/Wolfman4_zpsd504e8ea.jpg)

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/WolfMan5_zpsf2b38901.jpg)

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/Wolf-Man_zpsf4c78233.jpg)

cl:)

Quote from: Hepcat on December 04, 2013, 02:57:40 PM
No, werewolves are not van-sized. While the effects of recombinant DNA are not fully understood and the effects of the application of wolf bane vary widely from individual to individual (which is not surprising since we as humans vary widely from individual to individual), careful observation of such effects suggests four hard and fast commonalities:

1. Werewolves are man sized. How big they are tends to be largely a function of the underlying human subject.

2. Like humans they are bipedal.

3. They are generally flat-faced. They do not have elongated wolf-like snouts. Human DNA seems to be dominant when it comes to general skull shape.

4. Typically werewolves still keep at least their pants on when subjected to the light of a full moon. Werewolves seem to be asexual. They don't mate with their victims; they just tear them apart.

Here from my studies are some good examples of werewolves:

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/WolfMan2_zps758806f3.jpg)

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/Werewolf-Copy_zps3adfed47.jpg)

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/Wolfman4_zpsd504e8ea.jpg)

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/WolfMan5_zpsf2b38901.jpg)

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/Wolf-Man_zpsf4c78233.jpg)

cl:)

Unless they are American Werewolves living in London.  Then apparently, they become entirely wolflike quadropeds.  Obviously Henry Hull was not a Yank.

Quote from: Haunted hearse on December 04, 2013, 03:21:54 PMThen apparently, they become entirely wolflike quadropeds.

I suspect some modern cinematic flight of fancy when it comes to wolf-like quadropeds. Decades of observation dating back to the nineteenth century have not revealed any such werewolfs. I'm open to the possibility that wolflike quadropeds may exist in some nearly forgotten corner of the globe but I'm surmising that these would not actually be werewolves.

:-\

If I can bring he subject back to vampires again. I remember when Twilight came out. Thie slogan was "things will never be the same again". I remember getting pretty mad over it.  I told people..what, what will never be the same again? Seriously...Things were never the same again after Frankenstein, The Wolfman, The Mummy, Dracula, The Creature From The Black Lagoon. Then Psycho, Night of the Living Dead, Halloween, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm street etc.. Some of these films created the genre. Some created new sub genres. What the hell is this teenage, teeny bopper, candy coated, love story film going to change.. Oh ya, maybe it will change something.. maybe worsen the already declining image of the vampire. I doubt I will walk into a collectible store and see any stuff from this films 30-50 years down the road. Also, I doubt it would have any real value.

thm

Quote from: the_horror_man on December 05, 2013, 12:29:02 AM
If I can bring he subject back to vampires again. I remember when Twilight came out. Thie slogan was "things will never be the same again". I remember getting pretty mad over it.  I told people..what, what will never be the same again? Seriously...Things were never the same again after Frankenstein, The Wolfman, The Mummy, The Creature From The Black Lagoon. Then Psycho, Night of the Living Dead, Halloween, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm street etc.. Some of these films created the genre. Some created new sub genres. What the hell is this teenage, teeny bopper, candy coated, love story film going to change.. Oh ya, maybe it will change something.. maybe worsen the already declining image of the vampire. I doubt I will walk into a collectible store and see any stuff from this films 30-50 years down the road. Also, I doubt it would have any real value.

thm

I just turned 57.  In fifty years, when I'm 107, I'll simply be grateful, if I can walk into a collectible store, on my own two feet.

Quote from: Haunted hearse on December 05, 2013, 01:13:53 AM
I just turned 57.  In fifty years, when I'm 107, I'll simply be grateful, if I can walk into a collectible store, on my own two feet.

lol..I didn't even think of that. I am 43. I might still be able make it in there in my 80's and 90's. I met George A Romero about 2 1/2 years ago at a convention. I think he is in his mid to late 80's.

thm

Better hope for the zombie apocolypse

Quote from: jimm on December 05, 2013, 01:24:05 AM
Better hope for the zombie apocolypse

...or real vampirism. Being immortal would let you amass a monstrous monster collection.  thrhrt

Today's lesson deals with telling Godzilla apart from shoddy imitators.

These are all just large lizards:

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/Croc_zpsf0f21c1a.jpg)

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/American_Alligator_zps817431d2.jpg)

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/Komodo2_zps5bdae28e.jpg)

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/komodo_dragon_v1_zps9d1d30b3.jpg)

Though in an atypical urban setting, this is just another overgrown lizard:

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/Godzilla1998_zps94bb85de.jpg)

But this now is Godzilla!

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/Godzila3_zps498d21f3.jpg)

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/Godzilla1_zps6e42974b.jpg)

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/Godzilla_zpseb5502fc.jpg)

Note both the upright posture and the tail drag. Not apparent from the pictures are radioactive breath and cell regeneration/recuperation abilities completely beyond any previously imagined scale which make Godzilla nearly invulnerable to conventional weapons.

cl:)

Thanks for shedding some light on the Werewolves and Godzilla controversy, Professor.

Quote from: Hepcat on December 04, 2013, 04:05:27 PM
I suspect some modern cinematic flight of fancy when it comes to wolf-like quadropeds. Decades of observation dating back to the nineteenth century have not revealed any such werewolfs. I'm open to the possibility that wolflike quadropeds may exist in some nearly forgotten corner of the globe but I'm surmising that these would not actually be werewolves.

:-\

Werewolves have been depicted as both bipedal and quadrupedal for centuries!  In no way are they a fabrication of Hollywood......be it modern or classic cinema, although Bela's wolf form is clearly a quadruped in The Wolf Man!

Bela though was a vampire. Being cast against type as a werewolf would I'm sure prompt many a man to slump to all fours.

???

Back to Godzilla, is there any truth to the "asexual" angle?  Thanks, Prof!

Quote from: Unknown Primate on December 14, 2013, 09:45:57 PM
Back to Godzilla, is there any truth to the "asexual" angle?  Thanks, Prof!

No! We've seen Minilla (a.k.a. Minya) hatch from an egg, that, presumably, was fertilized in normal fashion. Since we know there were at least two adult Godzillas (1954's "Godzilla" and 1955's "Godzilla Raids Again"), one was obviously female. It's possible that both started out as males, and due to lack of a breeding pair, one may have switched sexes, as certain species of frogs are able to do. Of course, this is highly speculative, as no known Godzilla corpses have ever been retrieved for study.

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Quote from: Unknown Primate on December 14, 2013, 09:45:57 PMBack to Godzilla, is there any truth to the "asexual" angle?

A vicious lie!

>:(

Godzilla is definitely a boy.

cl:)

YES!

Enjoyed all the posts but going Back to Vampires

Where does Count Yorga

(http://youjivinmeturkey.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/robert-quarry-as-count-yorga.jpg)

or

Count Dracula, posing as Bellac Gordal

(http://www.postmodernjoan.com/wp02/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/return-of-dracula.jpg)

(http://dracathalon.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/the-return-of-dracula-original.jpg)

fit in?

Quote from: WnewCreatureFeatures on December 15, 2013, 01:16:15 AM
Enjoyed all the posts but going Back to Vampires

Where does Count Yorga or Count Dracula, posing as Bellac Gordal fit in?

Both seemed to be fairly straightforward vampires, repelled by crosses and destroyed by daylight and stakes.

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Quote from: Count_Zirock on December 15, 2013, 03:14:41 AM
Both seemed to be fairly straightforward vampires, repelled by crosses and destroyed by daylight and stakes.

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Alas, there are Jewish vampires (such as in 'The Fearless Vampire Killers') and crosses don't work on them.

Quote from: WnewCreatureFeatures on December 15, 2013, 01:16:15 AM
Enjoyed all the posts but going Back to Vampires

Where does Count Yorga

or

Count Dracula, posing as Bellac Gordal

fit in?

Vampires both. As Flower has pointed out, vampires can be of diverse nationalities.

cl:)

Ah good , though not Lugosi or Lee I always thought they were excellent vampires , and lets not forget Blacula as well.


Sadly I can see them all rotating in their respective vampire graves everytime a "Twilight" film came out

Quote from: Flower on December 15, 2013, 04:28:56 AM
Alas, there are Jewish vampires (such as in 'The Fearless Vampire Killers') and crosses don't work on them.

Yes, but that was done as a gag in a comedy. From folklore, it's possible that any symbol of "good" might repel a vampire. But, vampire folklore differs by region. Some aren't effected by religious symbols at all. Kim Newman explains it as a peculiarity of bloodlines in his "Anno Dracula" novels. Vampires such as Lord Ruthven and Geneviève Dieudonné aren't phased at all by religious symbols, but Dracula, General Iorga, Baron Meinster, and Graf Orlok are plagued by them, as well as garlic and holy water. All vampires in the series, however, are susceptible to mortal injuries from weapons made of silver.

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YES there are Jewish Vampires ... try looking up Aluka or Motetz Dam. 

You will find that most humor is based on fact. 

Quote from: Flower on December 15, 2013, 02:32:19 PM
YES there are Jewish Vampires ... try looking up Aluka or Motetz Dam. 

You will find that most humor is based on fact.

Quote from: WikipediaJewish traditions

The Hebrew word "Aluka" (literal translation is "leech") is synonymous with vampirism or vampires, as is "Motetz Dam" (literally, "blood sucker"). Later vampire traditions appear among the European Jews of medieval Rhineland, in particular the medieval interpretation of Lilith. In common with vampires, this version of Lilith was held to be able to transform herself into an animal, usually a cat, and charm her victims into believing that she is benevolent or irresistible. However, she and her daughters usually strangle rather than drain victims, and in the Kabbalah, she retains many attributes found in vampires. A late 17th- or early 18th-century Kabbalah document was found in one of the Ritman library's copies of Jean de Pauly's translation of the Zohar. The text contains two amulets, one for male (lazakhar), the other for female (lanekevah). The invocations on the amulets mention Adam, Eve, and Lilith, Chavah Rishonah and the angels—Sanoy, Sansinoy, Smangeluf, Shmari'el, and Hasdi'el. A few lines in Yiddish are shown as dialog between the prophet Elijah and Lilith, in which she has come with a host of demons to kill the mother, take her newborn and "to drink her blood, suck her bones and eat her flesh". She informs Elijah that she will lose power if someone uses her secret names, which she reveals at the end.

So, it seems the cross, or even the Star of David, would be ineffective against a Jewish vampire. Although, I wonder if Dracula or another European vampire were to turn a Jew, would the vampire sire's bloodline dictate the laws regarding their behavior, or would the Hebrew traditions be dominant?

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Professor Hepcat! Sorry I'm late for class. I slept in, the dog ate my notes, my pen ran out of ink, my pencil broke, I lost my bus pass, and for some reason I'm standing here in front of the class in my underwear. I hope this isn't just a bad dream (psst, Flower, can I copy your notes???)

*ahem* Anyway, Professor Hepcat, what can you tell us about vampires and mirrors? Is it true they can't see their reflections and are really pissed off about it, or could it be that, as some have suggested, they actually see the true reflections of their twisted, ugly souls?

And is there a student discount on silver bullets?

Pauspy .. unfortunately the cat took my notes to read in the litter box but I'll dust off the clay, make myself a copy and mail you the originals.

Quote from: Pauspy on December 16, 2013, 02:46:08 PM*ahem* Anyway, Professor Hepcat, what can you tell us about vampires and mirrors? Is it true they can't see their reflections and are really pissed off about it, or could it be that, as some have suggested, they actually see the true reflections of their twisted, ugly souls?

Ahhhh, but that's just it! Vampires' souls disappear with their humanity leaving them with nothing where a soul once resided. And that's why they give off no reflection in mirrors.

Quote from: Pauspy on December 16, 2013, 02:46:08 PMAnd is there a student discount on silver bullets?

Not through me as that would contravene this august educational institution's conflict of interest guidelines. You might try Gus' Gunnery and Jewellery Liquidation Depot down the street though. But be careful of the iron bars across his storefront.

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(http://www.carter-stephenson.co.uk/lestat/lestat4.jpg)

THIS, on the other hand, should never be confused with vampires. This is a metrosexual with a slight overbite.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-N7hRB4IafPg/UI1XnlQJRxI/AAAAAAAAwuM/heYrpIh3Be0/s1600/tumblr_m78jt2S4tV1ra5y45o1_1280.jpg)

This is also an excellent example of a Vampire.

Quote from: Count_Zirock on December 15, 2013, 11:23:04 PM
So, it seems the cross, or even the Star of David, would be ineffective against a Jewish vampire. Although, I wonder if Dracula or another European vampire were to turn a Jew, would the vampire sire's bloodline dictate the laws regarding their behavior, or would the Hebrew traditions be dominant?

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Well, if it came to a Jewish vampire, he could be using an upside down Star of David, as a symbol of evil.

Thanks Flower *cough gasp*...boy that cat of your really likes to get into their litter box reading. Is this a question mark or part of an old hairball?

Professor Hepcat, with regards to holy symbols reprelling vampires, isn't it true that just the general outline of the symbol (say, two candlesticks crossed together) or even the shadow of the symbol (for example, the vanes on a windmill) are enough to send some vampires into a proper tizzy? Are these vampires extra-sensitive from previous repellings?

Also, what symbol repels metrosexual vampire wannabes?

Quote from: Haunted hearse on December 16, 2013, 07:20:57 PM
  Well, if it came to a Jewish vampire, he could be using an upside down Star of David, as a symbol of evil.

OY VEY ...

Quote from: Haunted hearse on December 16, 2013, 07:20:57 PMWell, if it came to a Jewish vampire, he could be using an upside down Star of David, as a symbol of evil.

Quote from: Pauspy on December 16, 2013, 07:40:34 PMProfessor Hepcat, with regards to holy symbols reprelling vampires, isn't it true that just the general outline of the symbol (say, two candlesticks crossed together) or even the shadow of the symbol (for example, the vanes on a windmill) are enough to send some vampires into a proper tizzy? Are these vampires extra-sensitive from previous repellings?

The question of vampires' susceptibility to religious symbols is an interesting one and the phenomenon is frequently misunderstood. I've studied it in depth and the answer is more complex than one might guess at first glance. There's an interplay of at least two elements here:

1. The talisman being wielded must have had powerful religious symbolism to the vampire when he lived as a mortal. As a result, vampires who originated as Orthodox Christians in Transylvania would be susceptible to crosses and holy water, while those who were once Jewish mortals would be susceptible to stars of David and other Talmudic icons. I'm therefore thinking that the more religious the mortal was at the time of joining the ranks of the undead, the more susceptible he would be to such icons as a vampire.

Vampires who were atheists when mortal would presumably be immune to any religious iconography, but may perhaps quail at a bound copy of the works of Christopher Hitchens.

2. The depth of faith of the person wielding the religious icon. I cannot overstress the importance of this point. If the icon is being waved about as a talisman by one of little faith or even one who is in the midst of a crisis of faith, it will have no effect on the vampire. Said vampire will just sneer contemptuously and perhaps even cause the icon to burst into flames as a demonstration of his power!

Quote from: Pauspy on December 16, 2013, 07:40:34 PMAlso, what symbol repels metrosexual vampire wannabes?

Post a "Hairdresser on Vacation" sign in your window and rest assured you'll never be bothered.

cl:)

Professor Hepcat, some other students here have asked about werewolves. Is it common for Vampires to take on werewolves as personal servants? I have heard if they do, the werewolf develops an appearance not unlike a large Norfolk Terrier.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_jf65hTKNQWA/TCxKmOWWTSI/AAAAAAAAAfM/G3_kxVIeO74/s1600/andreas.jpg)

(http://cdn.pedigreedatabase.com/dogbreeds/norfolk_terrier.jpg)

Is there such a thing as a metrosexual werewolf? If so, how does one repel them?

Pauspy .. I'm not an expert but I'm told that two Norwich Terriers will repel a Norfolk Terrier.  I don't even know if all Norfolk Terriers are metrosexuals or servants to werewolves.  Best leave the difficult questions to the Prof.

Quote from: Pauspy on December 16, 2013, 09:41:01 PMProfessor Hepcat, some other students here have asked about werewolves. Is it common for Vampires to take on werewolves as personal servants?

I don't believe so. Careful study of the accounts of reliable eye witnesses reveals that werewolves and vampires don't get along. In fact, werewolves will attack vampires on sight and a fight to the death ensues. Here's a photo accurate eye witness account by the distinguished anthropologist and occult observer Frank Frazetta:

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/Comics/Creepy7.jpg)

Quote from: Pauspy on December 16, 2013, 09:41:01 PMIs there such a thing as a metrosexual werewolf?

No, certainly not. Those would be Hollywood wanabees.

Quote from: Pauspy on December 16, 2013, 09:41:01 PMIf so, how does one repel them?

Just let it be known that they repel you and they'll get the hint.

Quote from: Flower on December 16, 2013, 09:52:21 PMI'm not an expert but I'm told that two Norwich Terriers will repel a Norfolk Terrier.  I don't even know if all Norfolk Terriers are metrosexuals or servants to werewolves.  Best leave the difficult questions to the Prof.

But sometimes dogs are just dogs.

cl:)

Quote from: Hepcat on December 17, 2013, 02:28:16 PM

But sometimes dogs are just dogs.

cl:)

Or a kiss is just a kiss.

What about cats?  Can they really kill vampires like in the S. King flick 'Sleepwalkers'?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleepwalkers_(film) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleepwalkers_(film))

Quote from: Flower on December 17, 2013, 02:40:33 PMWhat about cats?  Can they really kill vampires like in the S. King flick 'Sleepwalkers'?

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/BlackCatF3_zps205b710e.png) (http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/BlackCatF2_zps82b5a436.png)

Oh, absolutely! When it comes to vampires we felines do our part.

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/BlackCatF4_zps8be0f82d.jpg)

cl:)

Considering a vampire feeds on a kitten in one of the Count Yorga films, I had always supposed that cats could only destroy the particular form of energy-vampire depicted in "Sleepwalkers." (http://stephenking.wikia.com/wiki/The_Sleepwalkers) After all, their natural form seems to be large, bipedal cat creatures.
(http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120415233458/stephenking/images/7/79/Monstrous_Sleepwalker.jpg)
(http://horrorpediadotcom.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/sleepwalkers_stephen_king_monster_morphing.jpg)

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Quote from: Count_Zirock on December 18, 2013, 03:14:44 AMConsidering a vampire feeds on a kitten in one of the Count Yorga films....

Precisely. What more motivation do we felines need to destroy vampires whenever possible?

>:(

Quote from: Dr. Madd on December 16, 2013, 07:05:25 PM

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This is also an excellent example of a Vampire.

Oh for sure! That's a hard core vampire without a doubt.

Quote from: Dr. Madd on December 16, 2013, 07:05:25 PM
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THIS, on the other hand, should never be confused with vampires. This is a metrosexual with a slight overbite.

Yes, yes, I agree! That's a fairy from way back with the rest of them:

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cl:)

So Prof .. Did Santa bring you anything supernatural for Christmas?

No, nothing supernatural. But I did get a new vest and tie combo and an all day pass to the kitty spa where I got some highlights done:

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I'm spending so much time going through dusty old tomes researching the supernatural that I might need a new pair of spectacles by this time next year though.

:(

 Looking sharp there Hep.  Bet that outfit drives the feline fems crazy.

Quote from: Hepcat on December 18, 2013, 03:25:19 PM
Precisely. What more motivation do we felines need to destroy vampires whenever possible?

>:(

I seem to recall Renfield wanting to work his way up from flies, to spiders, then birds, and, finally, kittens! But, he never wanted human lives, oddly enough. Dracula also promised him rats!

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Quote from: Hepcat on December 29, 2013, 03:44:46 PM
No, nothing supernatural. But I did get a new vest and tie combo and an all day pass to the kitty spa where I got some highlights done:

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I'm spending so much time going through dusty old tomes researching the supernatural that I might need a new pair of spectacles by this time next year though.

:(

So did you dye your fur grey (with some white), to look more distinguished?

Yes. I thought that lent me an additional air of gravitas in the classroom.

:)

Before we leave the subject of Godzilla, it should be pointed out that Godzilla though a mature adult has continued to grow over the course of time:

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This is a common trait in reptiles therefore indicating that Godzilla's origins are likely reptilian.

:)

Professor Hepcat....if reptiles grow over the course of time, as Godzilla seems to indicate, does that mean The Reptile would have continued to grow, had she lived?

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How about the Alligator People?

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Does this suggest that reptile monster must be dealt with immediately, before they grow out of control? Should we seriously consider employing hook-handed mad cajuns to forestall this potential plague?

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Hmmmm .. what about

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Quote from: Pauspy on January 03, 2014, 07:08:04 PMProfessor Hepcat....if reptiles grow over the course of time, as Godzilla seems to indicate, does that mean The Reptile would have continued to grow, had she lived?

Does this suggest that reptile monster must be dealt with immediately, before they grow out of control?

While the workings of recombinant DNA are not fully understood at this point, that's the way it does appear and so I'm guardedly answering yes to your question.

Quote from: Pauspy on January 03, 2014, 07:08:04 PMShould we seriously consider employing hook-handed mad cajuns to forestall this potential plague?

Consider it we might, but execution may prove difficult. These days most mad hook-handed Cajuns are gainfully employed in the finer restaurants of New Orleans cooking up shrimp and chicken jambalaya, seafood gumbo and oyster po' boys and blackened catfish. It would be difficult to match let alone exceed the pay scale they command.

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:-\

Quote from: Flower on January 03, 2014, 07:42:24 PM
Hmmmm .. what about

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You mean cousin Shaba? We black felines are the very soul of horror! It's not by accident that we've been featured in Halloween imagery for centuries!

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Quote from: Flower on January 03, 2014, 07:42:24 PM
Hmmmm .. what about

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One of the problems with that title and the publicity for the film, is how that movie is misrepresented.  It is actually a charming story about a little girl dealing with her fears.  It's only marginally a sequel to the original "Cat People", and may be disappointing to those who were expecting a full blooded sequel to the original.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Curse_of_the_Cat_People (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Curse_of_the_Cat_People)

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Over here .. over here!

Professor, I was wondering about the sexual overtones with vampire folklore. The keyword being, "suck."

I know I'm only 13 years old and might not fully comprehend these things, but I'm curious and my groin is tingling for some strange reason.

Quote from: fmofmpls on January 10, 2014, 10:55:33 PM
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Over here .. over here!

Professor, I was wondering about the sexual overtones with vampire folklore. The keyword being, "suck."

I know I'm only 13 years old and might not fully comprehend these things, but I'm curious and my groin is tingling for some strange reason.

I'm only 11 years old .... What's a groin?  Or did mean to write 'groan' .. Excuse me .. I need to get back to the change one letter thread.

Quote from: fmofmpls on January 10, 2014, 10:55:33 PM

Professor, I was wondering about the sexual overtones with vampire folklore. The keyword being, "suck."

I know I'm only 13 years old and might not fully comprehend these things, but I'm curious and my groin is tingling for some strange reason.

You've clearly been watching some of those Hammer Horror flicks such as Vampire Lovers and Twins of Evil then!

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They've been known to turn many a young fellow's thoughts to sucking, but not for blood....

;)

Quote from: Hepcat on January 12, 2014, 12:15:28 AM
You've clearly been watching some of those Hammer Horror flicks such as Vampire Lovers and Twins of Evil then!


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They've been known to turn many a young fellow's thoughts to sucking, but not for blood....

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Even the pictures with a single lass have me thinking "Twins of Evil".

But there's no evil presented in any of the pictures I posted.

???

Quote from: Hepcat on January 13, 2014, 03:07:58 PM
But there's no evil presented in any of the pictures I posted.

???

I think he means twins of bobbling awesomeness.  ;D

Quote from: Hepcat on January 13, 2014, 03:07:58 PM
But there's no evil presented in any of the pictures I posted.

Of course!


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The above title is part of any well-read man's library.


cl:)

I just had some highlights put in for a formal reception at the dean's residence:

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:)

A complicating factor in any discussions of the supernatural is that natural phenomena that we don't fully understand and thus can't easily explain are frequently lumped in with supernatural phenomena. There have been innumerable cases of this happening over the ages. For example, the daily appearance of the sun in the east and its setting in the west was once seen as the celestial intervention of Apollo in his fiery chariot. We have now learned enough to understand that there is a more mundane natural explanation for the sun's seeming journey across the sky.

But we are still prone to giving perfectly natural occurrences a supernatural explanation. In our ignorance we dismiss perfectly natural phenomena as superstitions. For example, Lake Champlain and Okanagan Lake have hosted populations of fresh water aquatic reptiles for eons.

Lake Champlain

Max. length 201 km (125 mi)
Max. width 23 km (14 mi)
Surface area 1,269 sq km (490 sq mi)
Average depth 19.5 m (64 ft)
Max. depth 122 m (400 ft)

The ones in Lake Champlain are collectively known as Champ.

Lake Okanagan

Max. length  135 kilometres (84 mi)
Max. width 5 kilometres (3.1 mi)
Surface area 351 square kilometres (136 sq mi)
Average depth 76 m (249 ft)
Max. depth 232 m (761 ft)

Those in Lake Okanagan are called Ogopogo.

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The jersey of the Kelowna Rockets, of the major junior Western Hockey League, has for decades featured the prehistoric monster dwelling in Lake Okanagan named Ogopogo:

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Ogopogo has been devouring careless fishermen and swimmers in the lake for thousands of years.

But Ogopogo is your straight forward garden variety marine reptile. There's nothing supernatural about Ogopogo at all.

cl:)

Proper vampire demeanour:

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Accept NO substitutes!

thrhrt

Careful scholarly research of earth's geological history is very often the key to understanding present day phenomenon.

For example North America has not always had its present shape/form. A large inland sea known as the Western Interior Seaway existed from about 100 million years to 65 million years ago during the mid to late Cretaceous period within what we now call North America. This Western Interior Seaway is therefore also known as the Cretaceous Seaway and the North American Inland Sea. The Western Interior Seaway acted to split the continent of North America into the Laramidia landmass to the west and the Appalachia landmass to the east:

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The Western Interior Seaway did of course teem with various fish and reptiles including vicious flesh-eating dinosaurs such as the tylosaurs pictured below:

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By the end of the last Ice Age the Western Interior Seaway had shrunk down to Lake Agassiz which covered an area centering on Manitoba approximately 13,000 to 8200 years ago:

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The retreat of the Wisconsin ice sheet enabled Lake Agassiz to drain into Hudson Bay leaving remnants such as Lake Winnipeg, Lake Winnipegosis, Lake Manitoba and Lake of the Woods:

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A rather sizable vestige population of tylosaurs though continues to survive in Lake Winnipeg and perhaps Cedar Lake as well:

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Sightings of Manipogo (as these tylosaurs are now known) are common. Manipogo is in fact much beloved by the people of Manitoba. Local residents are therefore understandably highly protective of their own local "sea monster" despite the occasional hysterical tourist demanding that something be done about the loss of her husband, child, dog, etc. Manipogo too needs to eat of course.

cl:)

Contrary to appearances, these two handsome fellows are not direct linear descendants of dinosaurs:

American Alligator

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Nile Crocodile

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Crocodilians, birds and dinosaurs all evolved from a common ancestor of theirs, archosaurs such as Scythosuchus and Tsylmosuchus, from the early Triassic period which was about 250 million years ago:

(https://cordis.europa.eu/docs/results/h2020/695/695517_PS/archosaur-lineage-family-tree.png)

Relatively modern crocodilians took shape about 200 million years ago, and unlike their dinosaur cousins they're still around to this very day!

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Quote from: Stephen Wagner - Liveabout.com; 6 January 2019Are Pterodactyl Sightings Real?



They were the largest creatures to ever attain flight. With wingspans reaching nearly 40 feet, pterosaurs ruled the prehistoric skies for over 100 million years, until they died out with the dinosaurs about 65 million years ago.

Or did they?

There have been many modern-day sightings of creatures that by eyewitness description sound like pterosaurs, or pterodactyl sightings. There are also intriguing rock carvings and even photographs that suggest that this species of amazing flying monsters could have survived extinction, could have soared through the skies of the southwestern United States until very recently and might still exist in small numbers in remote parts of the world.

Modern Pterodactyl Sightings
Although there seems to be no hard evidence that pterosaurs did not die out millions of years ago - no pterosaurs have ever been captured and no bodies have ever been found - sightings have persisted. Stories of flying reptiles have been recorded for many hundreds of years. Some think that tales of the "mythical" dragons in the lore of many cultures around the would be attributed to the sighting of pterosaurs. Here are some more modern accounts:

May 1961, New York State: A businessman flying his private plane over the Hudson River Valley claimed that he was "buzzed" by a large flying creature that he said looked like a pterodactyl.

The early 1960s, California: A couple driving through Trinity National Forest reported seeing the silhouette of a giant "bird" that they estimated to have a wingspan of 14 feet. They later described it as resembling a pterodactyl.

January 1976, Harlingen, Texas: Teens Jackie Davis and Tracey Lawson reported seeing a "bird" on the ground that stood five feet tall, was dark in color with a bald head and a face like a gorilla's with a sharp, six-inch-long beak. A subsequent investigation by their parents uncovered tracks that had three toes and were eight inches across.

February 1976, San Antonio, Texas: Three elementary school teachers saw what they described as a pterodactyl swooping low over their cars as they drove. They said its wingspan was between 15 and 20 feet. One of the teachers commented that it glided through the air on huge, bony wings like a bat.

September 1982, Los Fresnos, Texas: An ambulance driver named James Thompson was stopped while driving on Highway 100 by his sighting of a "large birdlike object" flying low over the area. He described it as black or grayish with a rough texture, but no feathers. It had a five- to six-foot wingspan, a hump on the back of its head, and almost no neck at all. After consulting some books to identify the creature, he decided it most looked like a pterosaur.

Africa's Kongamoto
While other reports of pterosaur-like creatures have come out of Arizona, Mexico and Crete, it is out of central Africa that some of the most interesting anecdotes have come. While traveling through Zambia in 1923, Frank H. Melland collected reports from natives of an aggressive flying reptile they called kongamoto, which means "overwhelmer of boats." The natives, who were occasionally tormented by these creatures, described them as being featherless with smooth skin, having a beak full of teeth and a wingspan of between four and seven feet. When shown illustrations of pterosaurs, Melland reported, the natives identified them as most resembling kongamoto.

In 1925, a native man was allegedly attacked by a creature that he identified as a pterosaur. This occurred near a swamp in Rhodesia where the man suffered a large wound in his chest that he said was caused by the monster's long beak.

In the late 1980s, noted cryptozoologist Roy Mackal led an expedition into Namibia from which he had heard reports of a prehistoric-looking creature with a wingspan of up to 30 feet.

Photo Evidence
If pterosaurs really died out with the dinosaurs and their fossil remains were not first discovered until 1784, then a depiction of one could not possibly exist in an ancient rock carving. Yet a pictograph found high on a cliff face near Thompson, Utah seems to show just that.

While many experts believe the drawing is a bird, the beak, head prominence, wings, and legs also look very much like those of a pterosaur.

Another fascinating tale of a pterosaur literally coming out of stone dates back to 1856 in France. Workmen were digging through Jurassic-era limestone for a railway tunnel between the St.-Dizier and Nancy lines. When a large boulder of limestone was split open, the workers were astonished to see a large winged creature come tumbling out. They said it fluttered its wings, let out a croaking noise and then dropped dead at their feet. The creature had thick black, leathery skin, a beak full of sharp teeth, long talons for feet, and membrane-like wings that spanned 10 feet, 7 inches, by their measure.

The body of the creature was taken to the nearby town of Gray, according to the story, where it was identified as a pterodactyl by a student of paleontology. As reported in the Illustrated London News of February 9, 1856, the rock in which the creature had apparently been entombed for millions of years, contained a precise mold of its body.

The April 25, 1890, edition of the Tombstone Epitaph ran a story of two Arizona ranchers who claimed to have chased on horseback a flying monster "resembling a huge alligator with an extremely elongated tail and an immense pair of wings." True to the spirit of the West, they shot the creature. Taking measurements, they reported that the monster was 92 feet long with a 160-foot wingspan and a mouth full of sharp teeth.

The story is not taken seriously by many researchers today, but it corresponds loosely with a story about a Thunderbird that was allegedly shot in the same area in 1886 and dragged into town to be photographed. Several paranormal researchers claim to recall seeing that photo, but don't know where, and the photo has not been seen since.

Ropen (present day pterodactyls) do continue to reign supreme in the skies over certain Indonesian islands and even in parts of the United States as can be seen in these videos:

Ropen of New Guinea

Living Pterodactyls in Arkansas and Elsewhere

And the population of their colony in North Carolina is certainly increasing:

Flying Dinosaurs - Charlotte Stories



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