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Title: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on September 09, 2013, 03:32:57 PM
This thread is for dinosaur playsets or pieces, or pretty much anything having to do with dinosaur toys. I'll start us off with one of my favorite dino playsets.

Marx Prehistoric Mountain Playset #3414 (1975)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img30/9861/skn.JPG)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img694/596/wgyl.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img607/2386/vujb.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img10/6818/juj7.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img202/705/3x33.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img843/7694/qhj7.jpg)

In the '70s Marx "went vertical" with three of their playsets: Comanche Pass (western), Navarone Mountain (war), and One Million B.C. (dinosaur, 1974). This playset came out in 1975 to replace the One Million B.C. set with identical contents but a different box (sorry, no Raquel Welch figure in the One Million B.C. set). Shown above is the playset, instruction sheet, color booklet, postcard to be returned with customer info/evaluation, and photo box. The One Million B.C. box was drawn in bold simplistic lines as most of the older Marx playset boxes were.

#3414 contents:
29 Prehistoric Animals: 1 PL-750 Medium Mold Group(6), 1 PL-755 Small Mold Group(7), 1 PL-977 Revised Mold Group( 8 ), 1 PL-1083 Second Series Mold Group( 8 ), all in the shiny "Heritage" type plastic (lead paint free). (note: most collectors prefer the older lead paint based plastic for the individuality and variety it gave to the dinosaurs....and it had "that" smell that assailed your olfactory sense and took you back to when you were a kid)
18 Cavemen in 6 poses
5 Piece Mountain including Land Bridge and Walking Bridge
5 Metal Screws & Nuts for Mountain Assembly
4 Palm Trees with 7 Fronds & 4 Ferns with 4 Bases
Playmat
Instruction Sheet for Mountain Assembly
Color Booklet
Postcard for customer info/evaluation
Photo Box (The box is 26" tall. The ones that survived usually have extensive damage.)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on September 10, 2013, 10:54:51 AM
Wow! It would be difficult for me to pick a favourite from among the Marx playsets but the One Million B.C. set would have to be very close to the top.

 8)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: jimm on September 11, 2013, 01:09:50 AM
I believe one of the gang had "Navarone" impressive also...
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on September 11, 2013, 08:51:54 AM
The playset that has the identical cliff formation to the Prehistoric Mountain Playset though is the Marx Comanche Pass Playset:

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/MarxC_zpsd05dc500.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/Balticprince/media/General%20Album%203/MarxC_zpsd05dc500.jpg.html)

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/MarxC2_zpse558f00c.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/Balticprince/media/General%20Album%203/MarxC2_zpse558f00c.jpg.html)

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Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on September 11, 2013, 10:43:31 AM
The playset that has the identical cliff formation to the Prehistoric Mountain Playset though is the Marx Comanche Pass Playset:

Comanche Pass mountain replaced the walking bridge with a smaller land bridge, and included a boulder which could be dropped on some unfortunate. Also, the section between the two mountains was painted the yellowish brown color of the mountains instead of the blue river of the Prehistoric Mountain. The smaller mountain was turned differently than the Prehistoric Mountain. Superior only had the Comanche Pass molds for their terrain pieces. They included land bridges and boulders in all three sets. In their large set they included the large mountain section with the small bolt holes closed off in the molding process. Superior used Marx molds and sold only sets in the late '80s.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on September 11, 2013, 02:53:52 PM
Here is the Superior Mountain set that I won off evilBay a few days ago.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1987-Superior-Toys-over-60-pieces-Prehistoric-Dinosaurs-and-Caveman-play-set-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/oj8AAOxy87tSDrDb/$(KGrHqYOKo0FICOHKvS!BSDrD,,k,w~~60_57.JPG)

It was missing a tree and fern, Kronosaurus, Brontosaurus, and the original box. But, it included the elusive Superior pamphlet which folds out instead of opening up like the little Marx booklets. I replaced the missing parts and a damaged Pot-Bellied T-Rex and caveman out of my stash of extra parts. I am glad to finally get the Superior mountain piece. As you can see it is only the large mountain piece from the much more elaborate Marx mountain, however it is still very HTF. I have original boxes for my small and medium sized Superior sets, but will probably never own the Superior large box that contained this mountain set. The large Superior boxes are virtually impossible to find since they were made of thin cardboard instead of corrugated like the Marx boxes. The large ones just fell apart.

Superior prehistoric playsets are sought after by collectors because they used Marx molds and the dino figures were molded in swirled green, brown, and gray plastic, giving each dino variety and uniqueness. Superior cavemen were molded in white and brick red. Superior palm tree trunks and fern bases were molded in black. The small Superior set contained 6 dinos (PL-750, Medium Mold Group). The medium sized Superior set contained 9 dinos (PL-750, Medium Mold Group and PL-749, Large Mold Group). The large Superior mountain set contained 17 dinos (PL-750, Medium Mold Group and PL-749, Large Mold Group and PL-1083 Second Series Mold Group). Superior pieces are much harder to find now than the original Marx pieces.

BTW, with respect to toy dinosaurs Brontosaurus is correct even though in the paleontological world the species was changed to Apatosaurus. It was accepted as Brontosaurus when the Marx and MPC molds were made, and the dinos are labeled as Brontosaurus.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on September 11, 2013, 03:04:49 PM
This is the small Superior set that I scored off eBay a couple of days ago. It contains six dinos even though on the box it only mentions five. The bags are still sealed which is very rare. Since I have the other Superior sets I will leave them sealed. Prices are all over the board on these Superior sets despite the rarity. One vendor had one unopened bag of the six dinos from the medium mold group and one Superior pamphlet on a buy-it-now for $75. I picked up this entire small playset with all unopened bags for $15 plus shipping.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Superior-Prehistoric-playset-bags-still-sealed-/00/s/MTU0NlgxNjAw/z/fbEAAMXQgwNSH-RO/$T2eC16dHJFwFFZyHNzIbBSH-RNyt,w~~60_57.JPG)

The same box design is repeated on all three different Superior prehistoric playsets.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on September 11, 2013, 04:47:35 PM
Here is the Superior Mountain set that I won off evilBay a few days ago.

([url]http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1987-Superior-Toys-over-60-pieces-Prehistoric-Dinosaurs-and-Caveman-play-set-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/oj8AAOxy87tSDrDb/[/url]$(KGrHqYOKo0FICOHKvS!BSDrD,,k,w~~60_57.JPG)


Oh that's pretty!

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When were the Superior playsets issued?

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Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on September 11, 2013, 05:26:45 PM
Oh that's pretty!

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When were the Superior playsets issued?

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The boxes and pamphlet are marked 1987. I think they were only sold for a couple of years. IMO the Superior sets are the best of the "after-Marx" sets which used the Marx molds. There was some plastic flashing, and limited amount of terrain and dinos, but because they swirled the plastic on the dinos it gave each piece an individuality that was lacking in the Marx product after they switched to the shiny, uniform, plastic in the '70s. Also, the Superior brick red cavemen and black tree trunks/fern bases are very attractive. I was in the Army when the Superior product was on the market, and wasn't collecting dino stuff for awhile there, so I missed out on these new. A few years ago I found out about them and I've been on the hunt since. Strangely, I found the small set and large mountain set both just in the last few days (got 'em cheap, too). You just never know when something's going to pop up on evilBay....gotta keep your nose in your computer daily. ;)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on September 11, 2013, 08:57:58 PM
This is the small Superior set that I scored off eBay a couple of days ago.... The bags are still sealed which is very rare.... I picked up this entire small playset with all unopened bags for $15 plus shipping.

([url]http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Superior-Prehistoric-playset-bags-still-sealed-/00/s/MTU0NlgxNjAw/z/fbEAAMXQgwNSH-RO/[/url]$T2eC16dHJFwFFZyHNzIbBSH-RNyt,w~~60_57.JPG)

The same box design is repeated on all three different Superior prehistoric playsets.


Wow! Great score! Sealed is king.

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Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Flower on September 11, 2013, 09:52:11 PM
We need to set up a 'play date' ...  ;)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: jimm on September 11, 2013, 09:57:32 PM
Your play set collection is jaw-dropping!
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on September 12, 2013, 11:47:18 AM
Your play set collection is jaw-dropping!
Thanks, jimm. I mostly collect dinosaur and monster related playsets so I'm very limited and specialized in that regard. There aren't many monster type playsets which is why I made that custom. I plan to post some of mine a little at a time. I have some Hamilton's Invaders stuff as well as several prehistoric playsets. I really love most of the Marx sets, and several of the MPC, Remco, and Ideal sets, but because of space and money limitations I decided to narrow it to my favorite stuff.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on September 12, 2013, 11:50:59 AM
We need to set up a 'play date' ...  ;)
Okie dokie. :)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on September 12, 2013, 07:07:39 PM
Pics of the "playset closet":

(http://imageshack.us/a/img545/6255/zci9.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img4/4452/9x85.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img812/3906/o85u.jpg)

I plan to post pics of some of these set up as time permits. :)



Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on September 12, 2013, 07:23:38 PM
Huh? What's that crap hanging in your closet with your most prized possessions?  :o You should give all that stuff to Goodwill so that more space remains for playsets.

 cl:)

Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on September 12, 2013, 07:25:22 PM
Dino toys on my shelves:

The two bottom shelves have Sinclair dino items.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img822/8631/rqxr.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img17/4599/h6vi.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img838/3595/wjvh.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img7/4673/frwm.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img841/218/0ctj.jpg)

3rd shelf up is Invicta/British Heritage Museum pieces and cheap dimestore dinos from the '60s (Ajax/Tootsietoy). 4th & 5th shelves contain Carnegie Safari dinos and some other various. Top shelves have Carnegie Safari, Marx Cavemen, Marx and MPC carded dinos from the '60s.

Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on September 12, 2013, 07:32:04 PM
Huh? What's that crap hanging in your closet with your most prized possessions?  :o You should give all that stuff to Goodwill so that more space remains for playsets.

 cl:)
You're right! What am I thinking?! If I got rid of those useless clothes I could buy MORE PLAYSETS! I gotta get my priorities straight. ;)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: propman on September 13, 2013, 01:16:49 AM
I always considered the Aurora Prehistoric Scenes not just models but toys as well since you could play with them as well. Here's my Play set of those.
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/propman1/COLLECTION%20ROOM/MaskCollection260.jpg)


"D" (http://[URL=http://s697.photobucket.com/user/propman1/media/COLLECTION%20ROOM/MaskCollection260.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on September 13, 2013, 08:55:18 AM
The two bottom shelves have Sinclair dino items.

What's the best source for information about Sinclair dinosaur premiums?

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Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on September 13, 2013, 08:56:49 AM
I always considered the Aurora Prehistoric Scenes not just models but toys as well since you could play with them as well. Here's my Play set of those.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Your Prehistoric Scenes build-ups are fabulous!

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Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on September 13, 2013, 12:39:50 PM
What's the best source for information about Sinclair dinosaur premiums?

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There is this book available on Amazon. I don't own it so I can't vouch for quality.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51X9VFDW8ML._SX260_.jpg)

Mike Fredericks' book has a section on Sinclair which isn't bad. Other than that just google and eBay. I learned what I know over the years in the eBay trenches.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on September 13, 2013, 12:44:28 PM
I always considered the Aurora Prehistoric Scenes not just models but toys as well since you could play with them as well. Here's my Play set of those.
([url]http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/propman1/COLLECTION%20ROOM/MaskCollection260.jpg[/url])


"D"
 (http://[URL=http://s697.photobucket.com/user/propman1/media/COLLECTION%20ROOM/MaskCollection260.jpg.html)

Prehistoric Scenes have a place in my heart for the ones I built when I was a kid. Those are spectacular examples, propman.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on September 13, 2013, 01:00:59 PM
A Warren ad for the Prehistoric Scenes kits:

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%202/Auroraad5.jpg)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: propman on September 13, 2013, 05:27:50 PM
Thanks Hepcat and HorrorHunter!!!!!



"D" :)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: jimm on September 13, 2013, 09:07:15 PM
Will never forget the neighbor kids older brother having what seemed liked a wall full of Aurora Scenes kits. Quite the impression (obviously)  ;D
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on September 14, 2013, 04:54:47 PM
Finally got a new scanner. Here are scans of the front and back of the color booklet included in the Marx #3414 Prehistoric Mountain Playset:

(http://imageshack.us/a/img855/3271/orc4.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img853/4752/xdw2.jpg)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: japfeif on September 21, 2013, 08:34:43 PM
Hmmm...I"d love to post some pics of my stuff but can't figure out how. I assumed that you hit the "post image" button and the copy the location of your pic off your computer between the two (http://) commands....but didn't seem to work. The preview just showed three boxes with "X";s in them.

Can someone give me the "idiot instructions" on posting pics form my computer? thanks all!
you can PM me if you'd rather or email at japfeif(*at*)aol.com. My name is Jeff.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on September 21, 2013, 09:11:55 PM
Hmmm...I"d love to post some pics of my stuff but can't figure out how. I assumed that you hit the "post image" button and the copy the location of your pic off your computer between the two (http://) commands....but didn't seem to work. The preview just showed three boxes with "X";s in them.

Can someone give me the "idiot instructions" on posting pics form my computer? thanks all!
you can PM me if you'd rather or email at japfeif(*at*)aol.com. My name is Jeff.

http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=2087.0 (http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=2087.0)

The link above will lead you to instructions. Don't feel bad, I only recently took the trouble to bumble my way through it.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on September 24, 2013, 03:21:51 PM
Marx Prehistoric Bagatelle Pinball Game:

(http://imageshack.us/a/img706/7143/0hze.jpg)

I always wanted one of these as a kid. Picked this one up off eBay a few years ago. This thing is a blast and still plays perfectly. When Marx made a toy, they made it to last.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on September 24, 2013, 03:33:15 PM
MPC Dinosaur Monsters on blister card (1964):

(http://imageshack.us/a/img706/5131/uce7.jpg)

98 cents!  :laugh: Now you can't get a decent one for a hundred times that.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on September 24, 2013, 07:34:50 PM
Marx Prehistoric Times #3390 Playset (1957):

(http://imageshack.us/a/img818/3567/mdw8.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img43/9546/jnx2.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img405/5546/uzvc.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img32/1184/92p.JPG)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img199/2994/s3a9.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img834/150/lhk1.jpg)

The #3390 is the first Marx dinosaur playset. It is one of the "long box" sets. They were shipped in the decorated boxes so most of the time those are missing or heavily damaged. The vacu-form terrain piece is commonly badly cracked or broken.

CONTENTS:
23 dinosaurs (1 Large Mold Group, 1 Medium Mold Group, 2 Small Mold Groups); This set contains a light gray Small Mold Group with some marbling. It also contains one of the rare and highly coveted metallic green Kronosaurus (finned creature in the pond).
Vacu-form Terrain Piece
4 Palm Trees & 4 Ferns & 1 Dead Tree & 2 Stumps
12 Cavemen (6 Cream, and 6 Tan)
Box & Booklet
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Scatter on September 24, 2013, 08:01:43 PM
LOVELOVELOVE these sets!!
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on September 24, 2013, 08:05:11 PM
LOVELOVELOVE these sets!!
Thanks, dude! I was wondering if anyone gives a rats *ss about this stuff. As long as anyone cares I'll continue to post them. I'm a bit of a dino freak.  ;D
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on September 24, 2013, 08:09:01 PM
Marx Prehistoric Bagatelle Pinball Game:

([url]http://imageshack.us/a/img706/7143/0hze.jpg[/url])


Marx made a lot of fabulous bagatelles, and that's one of the best! Since pinball machines were banned as a moral corruption in many jurisdictions for two or three decades after the war , Marx bagatelles were as close to pinball as many kids got in those years.

 :)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on September 24, 2013, 08:10:40 PM
MPC Dinosaur Monsters on blister card (1964):

Wow! Mint on card! That's fabulous.

 :o

How tough are they to find that way?

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Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on September 24, 2013, 08:16:00 PM
Wow! Mint on card! Is that yours?

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Yeah, I picked that up from eBay about 10 years ago. It isn't perfect but probably as nice as could be expected for such an item. Packaged examples are few and far between. Glad you like it, Hep.  :)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on September 24, 2013, 10:43:25 PM
Marx Prehistoric Times #3390 Playset (1957):

([url]http://imageshack.us/a/img818/3567/mdw8.jpg[/url])

The #3390 is the first Marx dinosaur playset. It is one of the "long box" sets.


The long box sets are the definitive Marx playsets in my mind. The later boxes just don't seem "right" to me, just like any Aurora monster model kit that came out after the long box ones doesn't seem right to me either.

 ;)
Title: Marx
Post by: jimm on September 24, 2013, 10:49:17 PM
That's a sweet set!
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on September 25, 2013, 04:03:58 PM
MPC Ancient Dark God Playset (1972) (Custom Dinosaur/Monster Playset)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img580/6490/4mbt.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img89/667/jsfx.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img59/7747/hbtw.jpg)

I created this custom playset a few months ago. The cyclopean thing in the corner is an idol of Agrezelh. The Glow MPC Monsters represent Agrezelh's spectral demonic servants. They have taken various forms of iconic terror plucked from the minds of Agrezelh worshippers from throughout time. This playset is meant to have a Lovecraftian vibe with the worship of prehistoric Great Old Ones. Since this is the Monsterkidverse style of the early '70s, we have the cavemen coexisting with dinosaurs and prehistoric mammals. This is made with mostly MPC parts with some custom pieces...like the Agrezelh idol, the sacrificial altar, and some of the rock formations. This is a bit of a loose prequel to the Haunted Graveyard Playset with the feature of Agrezelh worship. Millions of years later Agrezelh would be one of the main Powers to enable Hagmar The Witch to invade Cemetery Hill with The Unholy Eight and accompanying hordes.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Scatter on September 28, 2013, 03:39:53 AM
Thanks, dude! I was wondering if anyone gives a rats *ss about this stuff. As long as anyone cares I'll continue to post them. I'm a bit of a dino freak.  ;D

I don't think you can find a Monster Kid who didn't start off as a Dino Kid.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on September 28, 2013, 10:06:25 AM
Twould be strange to find any young boy who didn't like dinosaurs. I mean enormous, vicious flesh eating beasts capable of tearing a person limb from limb? What's not to like?

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Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: japfeif on November 10, 2013, 02:13:50 PM
Here are some of my marx & MPC (and reissues of same) dinosaur playsets. Some are hard to see, as they are stacked (especially cared sets, which I tend to store laying flat to avoid sagging over time!)

(http://i.imgur.com/M67t1X8.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/DszpHEB.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/MChGEA9.jpg)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on November 10, 2013, 02:53:58 PM
Neat collection! How long has it taken you to put it together?

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Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: RedKing on November 13, 2013, 11:01:12 PM
Awesome sets! I had many Marx and MPC dinos as a kid.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: jimm on November 14, 2013, 12:48:11 AM
Wow those carded Dino's are quite the collection on their own!
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on November 14, 2013, 09:24:26 AM
Some are hard to see, as they are stacked (especially carded sets, which I tend to store laying flat to avoid sagging over time!)

([url]http://i.imgur.com/MChGEA9.jpg[/url])


Oh man, I never even noticed the carded dino sets at the bottom! Who made them? Can you post better shots of some of the cards?

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Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Scatter on November 14, 2013, 03:00:51 PM
I have a vague, fuzzy recollection of a playset I had as a kid............grey "rocks" that fit together to form a mountain and such. Can't for the life of me remember what they went to, since I had a ton of different dinos and cavemen figures. One of those things I would know if I saw, but can't even adequately describe.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: bigbud on November 16, 2013, 09:30:35 AM
That is an awesome collection!
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: billyatom on November 29, 2013, 09:22:40 AM
Awesome!  I see two Prehistoric Times, are they different or are just lucky to have two?  I actually still have mine from whenever..1964 or so.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on November 29, 2013, 10:40:14 AM
I actually still have mine from whenever..1964 or so.

Cool! Do you ever set it up anymore?

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Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: japfeif on January 16, 2014, 11:50:59 PM
Neat collection! How long has it taken you to put it together?

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I have been collecting for about 8 years or so now. I have just finished writing a book on Marx and MPC prehistoric playsets (off to printers now) and it is fully illustrated and the only real way to get hi-quality, first gen pics was to acquire the sets so I could get pics! A rather expensive way to do it but I would have wanted the sets anyway! Luckily, some other collectors have donated pics of some of the sets that have escaped me :-)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: japfeif on January 17, 2014, 12:09:24 AM
Awesome!  I see two Prehistoric Times, are they different or are just lucky to have two?  I actually still have mine from whenever..1964 or so.

Marx produced several versions of some of their sets, generally with different model numbers and some changes in piece count. For example, along the top you can see (I believe) 5 different versions of the large Prehistoric Times sets. The original one was the Series 1000 (model number 3390), and is the one you see the most often. It had the original marx logo, and came with the vacuform terrain piece, Palm Tree Group, 23 dinos (the Large, Medum, and Small Mold Groups, plus a second Small Mold Group), 12 cavemen (2 sets of 6), and the Dead Tree/Stump group. Another very simlar set was the Series 500 (model number 3389), which was usually found as a plain-box mail-order form. The only real difference between it and the Series 1000 was that the Series 500 had both sets of cavemen in cream, while the Series 1000 had one set in cream and one set in tan. Both these sets came out in 1957.

In 1958, both sets were reissued with different model numbers. The new Series 1000 had the model number 3392 and the new Series 500 had the model number 3391. The only real difference between these two sets and their originl counterparts from '57 is that these new sets did not contain the Dead Tree/Stump group.  All these sets contained among their dinosaur count two Small Mold Groups, one in gray & one in green. In 1959, Marx introduced brown as a standard color. Also in '59, Marx again reissued the Series 1000 set, model number 3392 (and possibly the Series 500 as well, although I can find no record of this set being reissued). There were several differences once again. In this new set, the dead Tree/Stump group was again absent. Unlike the earlier sets, one of the Small Mold Group dinos now came in the new brown color instead of gray. The other Small Mold Group remained in green. Marx redesigned their logo in '59, and the new logo (along with the Marx mascot, Magic Marxie) appeared on the box in place of the original logo.

And all this is just the versions of the large Prehistoric Times sets, with the vacuform terrain piece. Marx also put out another set, also called Prehistoric Times, in the perfectly square boxes, sometimes referred to as the "square-boxed" sets or the "pizza box" sets. And these guys have their OWN different variations and model numbers. These are fiarly commonly seen on eBay, in various degrees of completeness.

As you can guess, the Marx dinosaur playset output was rather convoluted and can be confusing I am hoping my book will help clear up some of the confusion surrounding these guys (cheap plug, I know! lol).

ANd the story is almost as confusing for the various MPC sets as well!

Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: japfeif on January 17, 2014, 12:11:42 AM
Oh man, I never even noticed the carded dino sets at the bottom! Who made them? Can you post better shots of some of the cards?

 ???

Yes, I will try and dump some of the pics of carded sets onto photobucket and post some of them soon!
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Dr. Madd on January 17, 2014, 01:35:22 AM
(http://members.tripod.com/gi_shmo/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/weirddinogroup.jpg)

Anyone remember these guys?
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on January 17, 2014, 09:20:21 AM
As you can guess, the Marx dinosaur playset output was rather convoluted and can be confusing I am hoping my book will help clear up some of the confusion surrounding these guys (cheap plug, I know! lol).

ANd the story is almost as confusing for the various MPC sets as well!

Wow! Just wow.

 8)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on January 17, 2014, 07:46:59 PM
A cool ad from a Sears catalog, probably 1974 since the One Million B.C. mountain set came out that year. Found this on Google Images.

(http://webdebris.com/70s/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/one_million_bc_play_set_1970s.jpg)

I don't have this set but I do own the Marx Prehistoric Mountain (1975) and the Marx Giant Prehistoric Mountain (1977) (gray mountain pieces). I find it strange that the Sears ad shows no plastic playmat, or Marx box, and only lists 12 Cavemen where the other two sets contained 18 Cavemen. I wonder if Sears repackaged the playset in a Sears shipping carton and altered the contents, or did the One Million B.C. set lack the playmat and only have 12 Cavemen? It also doesn't list the color booklet, or ferns, present in the Prehistoric Mountain set. Inquiring dinonuts want to know.  ???

Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Dr. Madd on January 18, 2014, 02:16:09 AM
Let's try this again..

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7331/9295089613_d7b0f2c6a7_z.jpg)

Anyone ever see these dinosaurs?
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on January 18, 2014, 11:58:08 AM
Let's try this again..

([url]http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7331/9295089613_d7b0f2c6a7_z.jpg[/url])

Anyone ever see these dinosaurs?

Yes. I bought a bag of those in the '80s or '90s. They interested me because those are really some Dungeons & Dragons monsters. The yellow one is a Rust Monster and the crawling one in the middle is a Bulette, or Land Shark. I don't remember a manufacturer but I think they were made in China. My set was a cheap rack toy in a plastic bag w/header card.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on January 18, 2014, 12:02:01 PM
Here is another catalog page, this time from Alden's, of an MPC Dinosaur Playset. Not sure of the date but judging by the price I'd guess early '70s.

(http://webdebris.com/70s/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/1970s-plastic-prehistoric-dinosaur-caveman-play-set.jpg)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on January 18, 2014, 01:07:54 PM
Lots of play value there for sure!

 8)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: japfeif on July 05, 2014, 12:56:38 PM
A cool ad from a Sears catalog, probably 1974 since the One Million B.C. mountain set came out that year. Found this on Google Images.

([url]http://webdebris.com/70s/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/one_million_bc_play_set_1970s.jpg[/url])

I don't have this set but I do own the Marx Prehistoric Mountain (1975) and the Marx Giant Prehistoric Mountain (1977) (gray mountain pieces). I find it strange that the Sears ad shows no plastic playmat, or Marx box, and only lists 12 Cavemen where the other two sets contained 18 Cavemen. I wonder if Sears repackaged the playset in a Sears shipping carton and altered the contents, or did the One Million B.C. set lack the playmat and only have 12 Cavemen? It also doesn't list the color booklet, or ferns, present in the Prehistoric Mountain set. Inquiring dinonuts want to know.  ???


The One Million BC set did not come with a playmat or a color booklet, however, it MAY have had a version of the booklet that was produced for only a short time around 1974, after Quaker had taken over Marx. It looked the same as the earlier "Revised Edition" booklet from the #3398 set from '71, except that it had a new "Marx Toys" logo, and listed the Stamford, CT address (home of Quaker) rather than the NY address. It had 12 cavemen and 29 dinos, and half of the Palm Tree Group (two trees and two ferns). All three of the Mountain Sets only had a half Palm Tree Group.

The next year, Marx came out with the Prehistoric Mountain set, which added the playmat, the color booklet, and upped the cavemen count to 18. In 1977, the Giant Prehistoric Mountain (with gray mountain pieces) came out. It also had the playmat & color booklet, but the caveman count dropped back to 12, and also the dinosaur count dropped to 22 from 29 (the Small Mold Group was not in this set).

Hope this helps!
BTW, my book on Marx & MPC dinosaur playsets was delayed (surprise surprise) but should be available this fall for whoever is interested!
Jeff
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on July 06, 2014, 07:32:34 AM
I'm awaiting your book anxiously!

 :)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on July 06, 2014, 01:08:59 PM
I'm awaiting your book anxiously!

 :)
If this book gives collectors the detailed factual information we want and it's priced fairly then I would be interested as well. It should show each playset actually set up, not just a box, and give information on original contents such as which mold groups were included in which colors and all other contents as well as scans of all booklets/instruction sheets. It should also list when these various products were sold and for how much. We've needed a reference work like this with good photos of the playsets actually set up for years. We'll see if this delivers.

BTW, I've waited forever for Playset Magazine to do a DVD on Prehistoric Playsets which they never have. They have several DVDs out covering War Playsets and TV Show Sets as well as several other themes, but no dinosaurs. There is a definite lack of good info available on the subject.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: tdude on July 06, 2014, 02:43:55 PM
I had a Styrofoam Tyrannosaurus Rex that stood about 8 feet tall when built. has about 50 pieces. Anyone remember that or have a pic?
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Count_Zirock on July 06, 2014, 06:57:13 PM
I had a Styrofoam Tyrannosaurus Rex that stood about 8 feet tall when built. has about 50 pieces. Anyone remember that or have a pic?
I had it! No pix, though. You put the Styrofoam pieces on wooden dowels. I think it was only 5' high, but 8' long with the tail.

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Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: tdude on July 07, 2014, 12:02:50 PM
I had it! No pix, though. You put the Styrofoam pieces on wooden dowels. I think it was only 5' high, but 8' long with the tail.


No wooden dowels. Mortise and Tenon system.
maybe this was it...http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/201105379174?lpid=82 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/201105379174?lpid=82)
I think the one I had was larger and a bigger box.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: ChrisW on July 08, 2014, 11:53:17 AM
I never had any Marx playsets growing up, but had many of the carded sets. I remember one with a particularily nice prehistoric painting on the card...at least it was to my 7 year old eyes. Probably Marx...
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: japfeif on July 29, 2014, 12:51:10 PM
If this book gives collectors the detailed factual information we want and it's priced fairly then I would be interested as well. It should show each playset actually set up, not just a box, and give information on original contents such as which mold groups were included in which colors and all other contents as well as scans of all booklets/instruction sheets. It should also list when these various products were sold and for how much. We've needed a reference work like this with good photos of the playsets actually set up for years. We'll see if this delivers.

Yes, actually this is pretty much exactly what it entails, except for the prices. Price guides of any sort are out of date almost immediately, and I didn't want to be held to any values I gave to the different sets. But all pics are of the assembled sets in front of their boxes, with all pieces, discussions of what mold groups were in each, etc. There are not scans of each individual instruction sheet per se, but if the set came with one, it's included in the pic.

On prices, if you meant what the sets originally went for, I did not have that information for the most part so did not include that.

As for price, it's not been set by the publisher yet (that is out of my control) but I believe the price will be in the neighborhood of high $30s-low $40s.

Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on July 29, 2014, 06:07:37 PM
Yes, actually this is pretty much exactly what it entails, except for the prices. Price guides of any sort are out of date almost immediately, and I didn't want to be held to any values I gave to the different sets.
I didn't mean collector prices. I meant the prices the toys sold for new at retail. That's the historical information. Some of that information is available in old catalogs, books that reprint old catalogs, and could be found with online research.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: The Creeper on July 29, 2014, 08:24:12 PM
I had they grey playset!
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on July 30, 2014, 08:58:13 AM
Which grey playset?

 ???
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on July 30, 2014, 12:23:44 PM
Which grey playset?

 ???

He must mean the color of the mountain/rock pieces. It could have been the Marx Giant Prehistoric Mountain (1977), or the #4208 Marx Prehistoric Dinosaur Playset (1978) (pic below).
(http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/7/2/4/4/6/2/webimg/572282316_tp.jpg)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: RedKing on July 30, 2014, 04:32:15 PM
I had that one HH-one of my very favorite toys as a kid! wish I still had it!
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on July 30, 2014, 07:52:44 PM
I had that one HH-one of my very favorite toys as a kid! wish I still had it!
It's a cool set all right. I bought that set at Big K in '78. The pic I posted is off the net. My #4208 is still complete and like new. When these sets pop up on eBay they are seldom complete and the box and paperwork are usually damaged. Those little plastic clips that held the rock formation together are usually missing, too. I was 19 when I bought mine so it was never really played with. It was really the first dinosaur playset that I bought as a collector. However, I didn't start collecting dino toys in earnest until around '99 and I didn't begin to really amass a good collection until around '01 when I started using eBay. Without eBay it would be very difficult to find enough of this stuff to reconstruct original playsets. I picked up a crap load of Marx and MPC eBay lots over a few years to put together my original sets. The stuff gets harder to find all the time. I'm glad I put my sets together when I did.  ;)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: The Creeper on July 31, 2014, 10:20:06 PM
This thread is for dinosaur playsets or pieces, or pretty much anything having to do with dinosaur toys. I'll start us off with one of my favorite dino playsets.

Marx Prehistoric Mountain Playset #3414 (1975)

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([url]http://imageshack.us/a/img843/7694/qhj7.jpg[/url])

In the '70s Marx "went vertical" with three of their playsets: Comanche Pass (western), Navarone Mountain (war), and One Million B.C. (dinosaur, 1974). This playset came out in 1975 to replace the One Million B.C. set with identical contents but a different box (sorry, no Raquel Welch figure in the One Million B.C. set). Shown above is the playset, instruction sheet, color booklet, postcard to be returned with customer info/evaluation, and photo box. The One Million B.C. box was drawn in bold simplistic lines as most of the older Marx playset boxes were.

#3414 contents:
29 Prehistoric Animals: 1 PL-750 Medium Mold Group(6), 1 PL-755 Small Mold Group(7), 1 PL-977 Revised Mold Group( 8 ), 1 PL-1083 Second Series Mold Group( 8 ), all in the shiny "Heritage" type plastic (lead paint free). (note: most collectors prefer the older lead paint based plastic for the individuality and variety it gave to the dinosaurs....and it had "that" smell that assailed your olfactory sense and took you back to when you were a kid)
18 Cavemen in 6 poses
5 Piece Mountain including Land Bridge and Walking Bridge
5 Metal Screws & Nuts for Mountain Assembly
4 Palm Trees with 7 Fronds & 4 Ferns with 4 Bases
Playmat
Instruction Sheet for Mountain Assembly
Color Booklet
Postcard for customer info/evaluation
Photo Box (The box is 26" tall. The ones that survived usually have extensive damage.)
Mine was just like this but the rock mountain was grey.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on July 31, 2014, 11:20:15 PM
Mine was just like this but the rock mountain was grey.

I have the one you are referring to. It's the Marx #4304 Giant Prehistoric Mountain Playset (1977) with the mountain pieces in gray plastic. I checked Google to try to find a pic but only found the pic below of the box (ignore the playset in that pic, it's just a Comanche Pass mountain and some mixed dinos- some MPC, at least the walking bridge is in the gray plastic). The Giant Prehistoric Mountain is very scarce and there is very little info on it. When I get a chance I'll set mine up and make a couple of pics. Anyway, here's the pic I grabbed off the net of the correct box.
(http://2warpstoneptune.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/marx-prehistoric-mountain-playset.jpg)

This is the playset that mountain in the above picture came from. The gray walking bridge IS from the Giant Prehistoric Mountain.
(http://www.marxwildwest.com/boxes/comanche%20pass%203416.jpg)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Dr. Madd on August 03, 2014, 08:41:11 AM
Dino toys on my shelves:

The two bottom shelves have Sinclair dino items.



3rd shelf up is Invicta/British Heritage Museum pieces and cheap dimestore dinos from the '60s (Ajax/Tootsietoy). 4th & 5th shelves contain Carnegie Safari dinos and some other various. Top shelves have Carnegie Safari, Marx Cavemen, Marx and MPC carded dinos from the '60s.

Do you have a dinosaur chess set? I got one a few years ago at the Indianapolis Museum.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on August 03, 2014, 11:06:33 AM
Do you have a dinosaur chess set? I got one a few years ago at the Indianapolis Museum.
No, but we would like to see it. Post a pic if you get the chance, please.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on August 03, 2014, 03:25:03 PM
Yes, indeed! Talk's cheap. We want pics!

 8)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on November 24, 2014, 05:17:38 PM
Here's a scan of a cool page from the 1979 Sears Christmas Catalog featuring an ad for the Prehistoric Dinosaur Playset #4208 (Marx, 1978) in the upper left. I bought one in 1978 from Big K and I still have it in like-new condition. It's the only dinosaur playset I didn't have to go back and replace when I started collecting them several years ago. The Marx prehistoric playsets from the mid to late '70s (like the mountain sets) are actually more scarce than most of the early ones.

(http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/bd/01/36/bd0136185276ed7f5daae69b1c3c991c.jpg)

Also shown are ads for the Marx Iwo Jima vertical type playset and the Shogun Warriors Godzilla which is very desirable among monster collectors.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on November 24, 2014, 06:51:01 PM
A You Tube video featuring the Marx Flintstones Playset and parts from some other prehistoric playsets:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCbeiCdbKN8&feature=player_detailpage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCbeiCdbKN8&feature=player_detailpage)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: CreepysFan on November 24, 2014, 10:53:03 PM
Here is another catalog page, this time from Alden's, of an MPC Dinosaur Playset. Not sure of the date but judging by the price I'd guess early '70s.

([url]http://webdebris.com/70s/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/1970s-plastic-prehistoric-dinosaur-caveman-play-set.jpg[/url])
   
  I had this same playset. I got it in 1972.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on November 25, 2014, 03:37:56 PM
This is one of my squarebox sets, Prehistoric Times #3394 (Marx, 1959). My parents bought me one of these at a small Mom&Pop strip mall hobby shop in Athens, Ga. back in 1963 when I was 4 years of age. We didn't have much money and my Mom saved for several weeks to get this for me on my birthday. I kept most of the pieces for all those years through several moves but the box was gone pretty quickly back then. When I started building my dino toy collection a few years ago I was anxious to score one of these with a nice box and booklet. Got this one off eBay and added the original parts needed to complete it including color matched dino mold groupings. These things are never actually complete when you buy them, you always have to add parts and it takes some knowledge to know what parts to add. I've played with/collected toy dinos all my life so this stuff is second nature to me.

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MarxPT3394_zps787bf303.jpg)

CONTENTS:
1 Large Dino Mold Group (PL-749) (in different colors) (lt. gray Pot Bellied T-Rex, green Brontosaurus, metallic silver Kronosaurus)
1 Revised Dino Mold Group (PL-977) (8 dinos in marbled gray)
1 Medium Dino Mold Group (PL-750) (6 dinos in gray)
2 Small Dino Mold Groups (PL-755-7) (7 dinos in brown, 7 dinos in green)
31 Dinosaurs Total
1 set of 6 cavemen in crème color
4 Terrain pieces (Cave, Lake, Flat Rock, Curved Rock)
4 Palm Trees & 4 Ferns
1 16 page Booklet (P-56-1)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MarkBookletP561F_zps8b714868.jpg)

Back:
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MarxBookletP561B_zps4cb36ee2.jpg)

Some information sources claim there were no cavemen in the squarebox sets unless you purchased the Montgomery Wards exclusive Prehistoric Times #48-2748 (Marx #3393, 1959), but the regular Marx #3394 I received in 1963 had the set of 6 cavemen so when I reconstructed this set I added the set of 6 matching color cavemen.

Note that the metallic silver Kronosaurus in this set is a premium figure of which Marx usually added one to each set, usually one of the Large Mold Group Dinos in either metallic silver or the much rarer metallic green. Also, the 8 marbled dark gray dinos in the Revised Mold Group are highly sought after by collectors. Marbled Marx dinos bring a premium, the more marbling the more valuable. When Marx switched to the waxy looking "Heritage" plastic in the '60s (probably '64) all of the unique variations in colors went away, so most collectors prefer the dinosaurs made from the older flat colored leaded plastic.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on November 25, 2014, 06:45:16 PM
This is one of my squarebox sets, Prehistoric Times #3394 (Marx, 1959). My parents bought me one of these at a small Mom&Pop strip mall hobby shop in Athens, Ga. back in 1963 when I was 4 years of age.

([url]http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MarxPT3394_zps787bf303.jpg[/url])


That is a really cool looking set!

 8)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: jimm on November 27, 2014, 08:08:37 PM
Love these sets
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on November 27, 2014, 11:03:09 PM
Love these sets
Thanks, jimm. I know not many people are interested in them but if only a few enjoy seeing them I'll keep posting.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on November 28, 2014, 09:11:07 AM
Only unperceptive philistines fail to appreciate dinosaurs and Marx playsets!

 cl:)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on November 28, 2014, 04:05:41 PM
Only unperceptive philistines fail to appreciate dinosaurs and Marx playsets!

 cl:)
I thought they would generate more interest here on a message board full of Monsterkids.  ???

Oh well, you can never predict what people will appreciate. I'll eventually post the sets I have and try to give contents and background info. I think enough people enjoy it to make it worthwhile. Too bad that guy who was supposed to be writing the book just did a few drive-by posts trying to get free advertising and never really posted much info or actually set up his sets for us to see. I guess he wants us to pay for it. Capitalism strikes again.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on November 28, 2014, 07:32:33 PM
Did he or did he not publish the book though?

 ???

His last post on the book was here:

http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=23582.msg427525#msg427525 (http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=23582.msg427525#msg427525)

 :-\
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on November 28, 2014, 09:13:09 PM
Did he or did he not publish the book though?

 ???

I haven't seen anything else about it.

It didn't bode well when he answered my question that he didn't intend to list original retail prices of the playsets. I could casually scare up much of the original pricing information with a simple Google search, and he should certainly have a copy of the book- The Big Toy Box At Sears reprinting those Christmas catalog ads. If the book ever materializes I'll have to read at least a couple of favorable reviews before I toss 40-50 bucks after a copy. I already have 95% of these sets and in the absence of attention to detail I doubt the book would have much to offer me. Someone who doesn't have most of the sets and has a great interest in the subject could make some use of it as a source of general information.

A good source for general info regarding Marx Prehistorics is this two part article explaining mold groupings and giving an overview of the sets and some background of the history behind them. And, hey...you can click on the link for free.  :)
http://www.dinosaur-toys-collectors-guide.com/marx-playset-monograph.html (http://www.dinosaur-toys-collectors-guide.com/marx-playset-monograph.html)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Wicked Lester on November 29, 2014, 10:20:18 AM
Thanks for the link HH. That is a great source of information and I'll be spending hours going through it. One thing I noticed is,unless I missed it,there is no mention of the rare J.H Miller dinosaurs. It appears that some of the later companies used very similar sculpts.
Anyway here is another Dino site.

http://www.dinosaurcollector.150m.com/index.html (http://www.dinosaurcollector.150m.com/index.html)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: RICKH on November 29, 2014, 10:59:31 AM
I've enjoyed the postings about the dinosaur playsets!  Keep it up please!
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on November 29, 2014, 12:16:59 PM
Thanks for the link HH. That is a great source of information and I'll be spending hours going through it. One thing I noticed is,unless I missed it,there is no mention of the rare J.H Miller dinosaurs. It appears that some of the later companies used very similar sculpts.
Anyway here is another Dino site.

[url]http://www.dinosaurcollector.150m.com/index.html[/url] ([url]http://www.dinosaurcollector.150m.com/index.html[/url])

That's another great dino site, WL. Thank you for the link.

The link to the Marx Monograph I posted just covers Marx and After-Marx (companies using Marx molds) sets. If you click "Home" it takes you to a wider range of toy dino info.

Here's a link within Wicked Lester's link that seems to be a good starting point since we get redirected from the first link. Anyway, it's another great dino toy site.
http://www.dinosaurcollectorsitea.com/companies.htm (http://www.dinosaurcollectorsitea.com/companies.htm)

One of the most important things to understand is the process Marx used to mold their dinos in groups. Once you understand all the mold grouping info you can better understand the contents of each playset. Again, here's the link to the Marx Monograph explaining mold groups: http://www.dinosaur-toys-collectors-guide.com/marx-playset-monograph.html (http://www.dinosaur-toys-collectors-guide.com/marx-playset-monograph.html)

Will do, RICKH. Sometimes I feel as if I'm on an island collecting this stuff. I'm glad to see that other people enjoy it as well.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on November 29, 2014, 07:32:15 PM
In another thread I remember we were discussing which company actually made the toy dinosaurs which were commonly referred to as "Nabisco" dinos and which were included as premiums in Wheat Honeys and Rice Honeys cereals in the '50s, and boxes of Fritos Corn Chips bags in the late '60s/'70s. According to the info in this website it was Lido, who also made toy soldiers.

http://www.dinosaurcollectorsitea.com/lido.htm (http://www.dinosaurcollectorsitea.com/lido.htm)

(http://www.dinosaurcollectorsitea.com/nabisco_files/fh_lido3.jpg)

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8142/7626502078_09013fcffd_z.jpg)

(https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.608045358064338322&pid=15.1&P=0)

(http://image.timepassagesnostalgia.com/watermarked/imagesf4/f465dinox9b.jpg)

There were also prehistoric mammals:
(http://www.angelfire.com/biz/toysoldierhq/znabiscomammals.jpg)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Mord on November 30, 2014, 01:48:00 PM
 I remember eating Fritos like a mo fo to get those little buggers when I was a kid.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: frankenstein73 on November 30, 2014, 04:37:10 PM
I still have my brontosaurus! Such a cute little fella.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on November 30, 2014, 04:39:44 PM
I remember eating Fritos like a mo fo to get those little buggers when I was a kid.
Me too, man. When we would go to the grocery store I would con my mom into getting an extra six-pack of the small Fritos bags for "milk break" at school that week. I didn't even eat anything at "milk break", I just wanted that extra little Nabisco dino that came one to a box of six small Fritos bags. Of course I always ate the Fritos during the week anyway, I loved 'em...only not as much as the toy dinosaurs.  ;D
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on November 30, 2014, 04:45:12 PM
Here's a little guy enjoying his Prehistoric Times #3390 (Marx, 1957) playset under the Christmas Tree.

(http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp266/pro2am/Larry-MarxDinosaurset-Christmas1957.jpg)

A pic of my #3390.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img818/3567/mdw8.jpg)

I was born in 1959 so I arrived a little late to enjoy this set new as a kid. My first full size dino playset was the Prehistoric Times #3394 (Marx, 1959) squarebox playset which I received for my birthday in 1963. That was the only full size Marx dino playset I had as a kid but I had plenty of MPC carded dinos and scads of dime store dinos and cereal/Fritos premium dinos during my early stint as a Monsterkid/Dinokid.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on November 30, 2014, 05:02:06 PM
Here's a 1958 Sears Christmas Catalog ad for a Prehistoric Times #3392 (Marx, 1958) playset. It is identical to the #3390 above except it lacks the dead tree and the two stumps that were in the #3390.

(http://www.angelfire.com/biz/toysoldierhq/zmx1958searsxmasdino.jpg)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on November 30, 2014, 05:38:35 PM
This is an example of the Large Mold Group (Marx, PL-749) with some nice marbling. That group included the Pot Bellied T-Rex, Brontosaurus w/large foot circles, and the Kronosaurus. Marbled Marx dinosaurs are sought after by collectors because each is unique much like a fingerprint, and considered quite beautiful by most toy dino enthusiasts.

(http://www.dinosaur-toys-collectors-guide.com/images/Marx-dinosaur-toys-mottmold-large1.jpg)

From 1961 to 1979 the Large Mold Group was not used by Marx so the Pot Bellied T-Rex and Kronosaurus are much more scarce than most Marx dinos and command a premium with the added collector interest. There was a problem with the time taken for the mold to cool since the Pot Bellied T-Rex is so fat and according to some info it slowed production. After Marx went out of business in the early '80s, and the molds changed hands several times, the Large Mold (PL-749) began being used again by various companies so some of the After-Marx playsets with recast Marx dinos include the three Large Mold Group prehistoric animals.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on November 30, 2014, 06:20:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-2mQCjxGEY#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-2mQCjxGEY#ws)

Note: The earliest Marx Prehistorics toy production can be traced back to the mid '50s, probably '55-'56. I don't know where this guy got 1950.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InUQm6qz_R8#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InUQm6qz_R8#ws)

"A giant beaver"???!...Good God. It's a frickin' Megatherium fer cryin' out loud. Some of these people must have never picked up a book about prehistoric animals, let alone played with the toys when they were a kid. Marx and MPC prehistoric animals have the names and lengths printed right there on the tails or stomachs. It looks like common pop culture references would register with people as prevalent as movies/shows like Jurassic Park and Walking With Dinosaurs/Walking With Prehistoric Beasts have been in the last few years. I guess I expect too much that people should grasp the obvious. I was inquiring about some monster figures at TRU the other day and two middle aged women employees had never heard of the Creature From The Black Lagoon! That's just unfrickin'believable to me. I asked them point blank "How the F do you get through life and never hear of the Creature From The Black Lagoon?". I just got blank stares.  ::)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on November 30, 2014, 10:17:43 PM
My first full size dino playset was the Prehistoric Times #3394 (Marx, 1959) squarebox playset which I received for my birthday in 1963.

So your infatuation with Marx Dino playsets can be traced to that very day!

 8)

Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on November 30, 2014, 10:23:50 PM
I was inquiring about some monster figures at TRU the other day and two middle aged women employees had never heard of the Creature From The Black Lagoon! That's just unfrickin'believable to me. I asked them point blank "How the F do you get through life and never hear of the Creature From The Black Lagoon?". I just got blank stares.  ::)

Stupid bitches! But dumb looks are still free you know.

 ::)



Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on November 30, 2014, 11:19:07 PM
So your infatuation with Marx Dino playsets can be traced to that very day!

 8)
Actually, it was a few weeks before my 4th birthday, Hep. My mom and I used to walk in to this small strip mall in Athens, Ga. and in a little mom&pop hobby shop there was this glorious display of that Marx #3394 squarebox set on a painted board with sand and the whole nine yards. I started pestering my mom for one right away but we were poor and in the weeks following she saved up the money to get me one for the B-day. I think it was around eight dollars which was a lot of money to us in 1963. I've loved dinosaurs and monsters ever since. Thank you, Louis Marx.  :angel:
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on December 01, 2014, 10:16:06 AM
...this small strip mall in Athens, Ga. and in a little mom&pop hobby shop there was this glorious display of that Marx #3394 squarebox set on a painted board with sand and the whole nine yards.

Cool! I hope they sold dozens of the sets as a result of that display.

 8)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: jimm on December 01, 2014, 11:06:14 AM
Cool that you remember which set it was at that age ... I have to refer to old pics if they exist to figure out which Exact toy I had (especially one with so many variations)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on December 01, 2014, 02:43:27 PM
This is my Prehistoric Play Set #3398 (Marx, 1971). It is the most common Marx Prehistoric Playset and the first one featuring prehistoric animals made from the new waxy looking "Heritage" type plastic. Supposedly the plastic was easier to mold, and it certainly gave more uniform colors. Most collectors prefer the older lead based plastic for the variety of colors and marbled patterns. The newer dinosaurs looked rather bland with them all being the exact same shade of mint green or light gray. Likewise, the new cavemen were all the same shade of brown.

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/Marx3398_1971_1_zps49baecc6.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/Marx3398_1971_2_zpse1d69bcc.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/Marx3398_1971_3_zps66ca4849.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/Marx3398_1971_4_zps6d7aed2a.jpg)

Monkeying with color on this pic (or lack of it). Gettin' all artsy fartsy.  :laugh:
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/Marx3398_1971_5_zps2c7ad25f.jpg)

Revised booklet to include the 2nd Series dinos & mammals.
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/Marx3398_1971booklet1_zpsc13cf51b.jpg)

Back:
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/Marx3398_1971booklet2_zpsdbbd96c7.jpg)

Instruction Sheet. Notice the little sprue in the foreground above with the two extra terrain clips still attached.
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/Marx3398_1971instructions_zps7b0e95b9.jpg)

Marx #3398 (1971 version) CONTENTS:

1 3-piece Terrain Set w/cave, rock arch, and pond in brown

1 Revised Mold Group (PL-977) 1/2 in mint green, 1/2 in light gray (8 dinos)

1 2nd Series Mold Group (PL-1083) 1/2 in mint green, 1/2 in light gray (8 dinos/mammals)

1 Medium Mold Group (PL-750) in mint green (6 dinos)

2 Small Mold Groups (PL-755-7) in light gray (7 X 2= 14 dinos)

36 Dinosaurs/Prehistoric Mammals Total

2 Sets of 6 Cavemen (12 total)

4 Palm Trees & 4 Ferns

4 Terrain Clips

20 Page Revised Booklet (P-1311R)

Instruction Sheet (P-1822R)

Even though this is the most common Marx Prehistoric Playset it's still difficult to complete. I had to buy three of these things off eBay several years ago and then add pieces to get a complete set. The box is usually trashed when it's even present, and the revised booklet is a little difficult to find at all, let alone in nice condition. The instruction sheet and clips are pretty scarce. These usually sell mostly complete in fairly bad condition for $100-$150. A nice complete one should bring at least twice that.

Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on December 01, 2014, 02:51:37 PM
Cool that you remember which set it was at that age ... I have to refer to old pics if they exist to figure out which Exact toy I had (especially one with so many variations)
Yeah, I'm pretty well obsessed with this stuff so it's firmly held in the memory. There is so much monster/dino crap in my head I don't think I have any room left for anything most people would consider important.  :laugh:

I hope you guys enjoy the set postings. I'm really starting to get interested in posting all this stuff. Makes it seem fresh again after all these years.  :)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on December 06, 2014, 06:13:34 PM
This is one of my mountain sets, Giant Prehistoric Mountain #4304 (Marx, 1977). It's the last Marx Prehistoric Mountain Playset, and also by far the most scarce. Most distinctive about this set is that the mountain pieces were molded in gray plastic, the prehistoric mountains for the other two types of prehistoric mountain sets were molded in yellow (One Million B.C., 1974, and Prehistoric Mountain 1975). The box is also quite different showing photos and illustrations.

BOX:
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MarxGiantPrehistoricMountainBox_zpsd42f3d59.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MarxGiantPrehistoricMountain1_zpsc48ca048.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MarxGiantPrehistoricMountain2_zps89209d1d.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MarxGiantPrehistoricMountain3_zps11f716e0.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MarxGiantPrehistoricMountain4_zps2116480d.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MarxGiantPrehistoricMountain5_zps360a91ec.jpg)

CONTENTS:

5 piece Mountains/River Base Terrain including Land Bridge and Walking Bridge

5 Nuts/5 Bolts for assembling Mountain Terrain

1 Plastic Playmat

1 Revised Mold Group (PL-977) (8 dinos, 1/2 in brown, 1/2 in mint green)

1 Second Series Mold Group (PL-1083) (8 dinos/prehistoric mammals, 1/2 in lt. gray, 1/2 in mint green)

1 Medium Mold Group (PL-750) (6 dinos in mint green)

1 Small Mold Group (PL-755-7) (7 dinos in lt. gray) (note: one source reports no Small Mold Group being contained in this set but the 1975 Mountain Set had them and the photo on the front of the box for this one shows them so unless I see better evidence I will assume they were included in this set)

29 Dinos/Prehistoric Mammals Total (in shiny, waxy-looking, "Heritage" type plastic)

3 Sets of 6 Cavemen (18 Total) in brown (note: one source reports only 12 cavemen were included but the 1975 Mountain Set had 18 so without further evidence to the contrary I'm going with 18) (in "Heritage" plastic)

2 Palm Trees and 2 Ferns (1/2 the full sets of 4 each)

Paperwork? (The outside of the box does not list a booklet or instruction sheet but it's safe to assume there was probably an instruction sheet similar to the one in the Prehistoric Mountain (1975) Set. Also, this set might have included a color booklet similar to the one from the 1975 set. I think Marx Toys had changed hands from Quaker Oats to a British company called Dunbee-Combex by this time so the information on the booklet would not have mentioned Quaker, and would have probably given the Glen Dale W.Va. address for Marx.

Prehistoric Mountain (1975) Color Booklet:
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MarxPrehistoricMountainBookletFront_zps3a721abe.jpg)

Back:
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MarxPrehistoricMountainBookletBack_zps98114f0f.jpg)

I bought this set off eBay around 2004 and it came with the original box, 5 piece mountain terrain, playmat, dinosaurs, cavemen, and palm trees and ferns, but no paperwork. I had to replace a few missing dinos and cavemen but it was remarkably complete. The box top still has the original price sticker for $14.88 from some store called "Child World". The box may look rough but considering it's rarity and size there aren't many survivors which aren't totally trashed.

I did research before posting this and there is almost no information on this set anywhere. I've been religiously checking eBay listings for dinosaur playsets since 2002 and I've only seen a couple of listings for this set and one had no box. The only one I ever saw on eBay with the box is this one which I bought. Contrast that with a yellow Prehistoric Mountain terrain piece showing up on eBay once or twice a month, and one with the box (either Prehistoric Mountain or One Million B.C.) showing up every few weeks. This is one of the rarest Marx Prehistoric playsets in existence as far as I know.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on December 08, 2014, 01:50:43 PM
I stumbled upon yet another toy dinosaur site while cybersurfing. Here's the link: http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php (http://dinotoyblog.com/forum/index.php)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on December 11, 2014, 06:48:10 PM
Here's a better pic of the Giant Prehistoric Mountain I posted above.

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/GiantPrehistoricMountain4304new_zps5092db9d.jpg)


Just got a new camera and thought I would post a clear pic people could actually see while the set was still set up.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: bigbud on December 12, 2014, 11:44:16 AM
Love the wood bridge the cave men are crossing! That is special cool!
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Mike Scott on December 12, 2014, 11:48:56 AM
Love the wood bridge the cave men are crossing!

Pretty advanced engineering for cavemen!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on December 12, 2014, 04:09:19 PM
Prehistoric Dinosaur Playset #4208 (Marx, 1978) is next up. This is the updated and downscaled version of the 3398 from 1971. This is the original set I bought at Big K back in 1978. Some people thought I was too old to buy this stuff when I was 19 but I usually don't listen to "some people" and bought it anyway. You see these on eBay sometimes in various states of completion and disrepair, but I never see one complete and like new as this one is. The original price sticker is still on the box. It reads "$8.97" and "Big K".

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MarxPrehistoricDinosaurPlayset4208_1_zpsa9285baa.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MarxPrehistoricDinosaurPlayset4208_2_zps31ff9afc.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MarxPrehistoricDinosaurPlayset4208_3_zps0b33150e.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MarxPrehistoricDinosaurPlayset4208_4_zps56d38cbe.jpg)

Instruction Sheet (This is the top half of the front):
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/Marx4208InstructionSheet_zps00b7910b.jpg)

CONTENTS:

1 3pc Rock Formation Terrain (Cave, Rock Arch, Pond) in Gray Hard Plastic

1 Revised Mold Group (PL-977) (8 Dinos in Canary Yellow)

1 Medium Mold Group (PL-750) (6 Dinos in Blue)

1 Second Series Mold Group (PL-1083) (8 Dinos/Prehistoric Mammals in Brown)

22 Total Dinos/Prehistoric Mammals in Shiny "Heritage" Plastic

2 Sets of 6 Cavemen (12 Total) in Brown "Heritage" Plastic

3 Palm Trees & 2 Ferns

4 Clips for Terrain in Gray Hard Plastic

Large Instruction Sheet (P-0046)


Marx had stopped including a booklet by this time and instead included the large instruction sheet which also gave information about each type of prehistoric animal in the set. Also missing is the Small Mold Group (PL-755-7) of dinos. Some info I've read asserts that the Small Mold Group mold was sent with the Flintstones set with the changing of ownership, but the dinos from the Small Mold Group are pictured on the Giant Prehistoric Mountain box from the previous year (1977) and I believe Marx was owned by Dunbee-Combex when both sets were released, and right up to the end of Marx proper in 1979. If anyone has any good info on any of this please post it.

My set above came with extra pieces over what it states on the box front. It has 22 dinos/prehistoric mammals instead of 20, 12 cavemen instead of 11, and 3 trees instead of 2. I believe the set was supposed to contain the 22 dinos and 12 cavemen because of the mold grouping totals but I think the extra tree was just put in there by mistake because with the Mountain Sets from slightly before Marx had already cut down to 2 trees and 2 ferns per set.

Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on December 13, 2014, 01:30:45 AM
Here's a better pic of the Giant Prehistoric Mountain I posted above.

([url]http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/GiantPrehistoricMountain4304new_zps5092db9d.jpg[/url])

Just got a new camera and thought I would post a clear pic people could actually see while the set was still set up.


Man, that is great. Your new camera is already paying off for all of us!

:)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on December 13, 2014, 01:34:19 AM
Prehistoric Dinosaur Playset #4208 (Marx, 1978) is next up. This is the updated and downscaled version of the 3398 from 1971. This is the original set I bought at Big K back in 1978. Some people thought I was too old to buy this stuff when I was 19 but I usually don't listen to "some people" and bought it anyway. You see these on eBay sometimes in various states of completion and disrepair, but I never see one complete and like new as this one is.

([url]http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MarxPrehistoricDinosaurPlayset4208_1_zpsa9285baa.jpg[/url])


And despite what the philistines were saying in 1978, I'll bet you're ever so glad you made the purchase in 1978. And you know what? So are the rest of us here on UMA today!

My set above came with extra pieces over what it states on the box front. It has 22 dinos/prehistoric mammals instead of 20, 12 cavemen instead of 11, and 3 trees instead of 2. I believe the set was supposed to contain the 22 dinos and 12 cavemen because of the mold grouping totals but I think the extra tree was just put in there by mistake because with the Mountain Sets from slightly before Marx had already cut down to 2 trees and 2 ferns per set.


Bonus! That's got to make you doubly glad now you purchased the set at the time!

 ;)

Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on December 13, 2014, 01:47:06 AM
I realize there aren't many people on UMA who are into playsets....

I think your shots have gained a whole legion of new converts for those Marx playsets here on UMA! I certainly wish I had several display cases packed with them.

 :)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on December 13, 2014, 01:13:43 PM
I think your shots have gained a whole legion of new converts for those Marx playsets here on UMA! I certainly wish I had several display cases packed with them.

 :)
Thanks, Hep. I hope others enjoy these playsets as much as I do.

Toy dinosaurs, especially by Marx and MPC, have a special place in the hearts of many a Monsterkid.  :)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: bigbud on December 13, 2014, 03:14:27 PM
I want in on the Dino fun too! Have these loose and am on the lookout for a Marx Prehistoric Playset box....they show up quite often on the Bay....

(http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd344/bigbud3/IMG_5994_zps8888ea03.jpg)

(http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd344/bigbud3/IMG_5996_zps26271cca.jpg)

(http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd344/bigbud3/IMG_5995_zps620e7df6.jpg)

This is a pic of the Smiley/Waving Dino....one of my favorites!

(http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd344/bigbud3/IMG_5997_zps88c93fc1.jpg)

Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on December 13, 2014, 04:25:33 PM
I want in on the Dino fun too! Have these loose and am on the lookout for a Marx Prehistoric Playset box....they show up quite often on the Bay....

This is a pic of the Smiley/Waving Dino....one of my favorites!

Good stuff, bigbud! The waving one is the Marx Hadrosaurus. It looks like the two big ones in the back are from the rare Flintstones Hunting Party set. Since you have the four terrain pieces from the square box sets look for one of those, either a #3388 or #3394. You also have extra pieces beyond one square box set.

Here's a link to mine posted earlier in this thread. I've listed the original contents if you want to complete an original one after you get the box. #3394 is the one I posted, but the #3388 is the same except no cavemen. There is a link a couple pages back to the Marx Monograph which lists all the mold groups and explains them. If I can help just post a ? or send me a PM. http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=23582.msg437720#msg437720 (http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=23582.msg437720#msg437720)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on December 13, 2014, 05:17:32 PM
Ancient Dark God Playset #13-666 (MPC, 1972) was demonized by parents groups and churches until the Holy torch wielding mob descended on the castle (toy store) and had them banished to oblivion. A scant few slipped through the cracks and avoided the cleansing. Now they are almost impossible to find. Mine is complete except for the elusive instruction sheet which also gave background information on the Dark God Agrezelh and listed several chants to it. The MPC Monsters in green glow are Agrezelh's spectral demonic servants in the prehistoric world. They have taken the forms of various figures of terror plucked from the minds of Agrezelh worshippers in the past, future, and other dimensions. I bought this in an occult bookstore a few years ago. It was partially hidden under several tomes of dread including the Necronomicon.

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/AncientDarkGodPlayset1_zpsfa277531.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/AncientDarkGodPlayset2_zps687c4f04.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/AncientDarkGodPlayset3_zpsc4202e48.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/AncientDarkGodPlayset4_zpsf6763909.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/AncientDarkGodPlayset5_zps9400558d.jpg)

CONTENTS:

1 Mountain Terrain w/2 Rock Arches (Lt. Blue)

1 Cave (Brown)

3 Rock Piles (Gray)

1 Sacrificial Altar

1 Agrezelh Idol

Complete Set of 8 MPC Monsters in Green Glow

48 MPC Prehistoric Animals (2 of each of the 24 different ones in various colors)

12 MPC Cavemen (Red & Yellow)

6 MPC Palm Trees

4 Marx? Dead Trees (MPC must have purchased these in bulk or knocked them off)

Playmat


"Hey Kids! Get your own Ancient Dark God Playset! Wage war with dinosaurs and demons! Sacrifice Cavemen! Worship the Ancient Idol! It's Prehistoric Pandemonium!!!"

I was stunned when the bookstore proprietor only wanted $100 for this! I quickly gave him my credit card and then he said there was something else...I would have to write a symbol on a document. I had never seen the symbol before and the document looked like it was written in Latin, or something. I copied the symbol on there as best I could, grabbed my prize, and left. I've been meaning to go back to that store but for the life of me I can't quite remember where it was...
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on December 13, 2014, 07:52:19 PM
I want in on the Dino fun too! Have these loose and am on the lookout for a Marx Prehistoric Playset box....they show up quite often on the Bay....

([url]http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd344/bigbud3/IMG_5994_zps8888ea03.jpg[/url])


Man, you've got a whole epoch of dinos there!

 8)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on December 13, 2014, 07:57:22 PM
Ancient Dark God Playset #13-666 (MPC, 1972) was demonized....

I wish that you'd been one of the playset designers working for Marx back in the day!

 8)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Wicked Lester on December 13, 2014, 10:54:38 PM
Ancient Dark God playset. Hmmm. COOL colored dinos, Glow monsters. Cave men,Cool minimal box art and THEE coolest playmat I have ever seen = Awesome!

Wait........................................ forgot the cool EVIL Idol too. Killer.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: bigbud on December 13, 2014, 11:58:41 PM
Horrorhunter...thank you so much! I will look for the 3394 set box ...... and I'll go over the content list you provided. I have several of the PFPC magazines, but am betting I don't have the issue describing the dino sets... I had duplicates of some of the hard plastic terrain pieces and sold them on the Bay.....amazed me with how well they did!
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on December 14, 2014, 01:04:18 PM
Ancient Dark God playset. Hmmm. COOL colored dinos, Glow monsters. Cave men,Cool minimal box art and THEE coolest playmat I have ever seen = Awesome!

Wait........................................ forgot the cool EVIL Idol too. Killer.
Thanks, dude. I posted that set before but the pics weren't clear so I decided to repost since I picked up a better camera. I also added some hokum with the background story just to spice things up.  >:D  :laugh:
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on December 14, 2014, 01:36:50 PM
Horrorhunter...thank you so much! I will look for the 3394 set box ...... and I'll go over the content list you provided. I have several of the PFPC magazines, but am betting I don't have the issue describing the dino sets... I had duplicates of some of the hard plastic terrain pieces and sold them on the Bay.....amazed me with how well they did!

PFPC #64 is the dino issue. I also have a cereal collectors mag called Freakie Magnet #11 that has good dino content. But, some of the best Marx info I've seen is the 2 part Marx Monograph here: http://www.dinosaur-toys-collectors-guide.com/marx-playset-monograph.html (http://www.dinosaur-toys-collectors-guide.com/marx-playset-monograph.html) The monograph explains about mold groups, playsets, and the After-Marx sets. It's very informative as well as entertaining if you're into Marx prehistorics.

Box hunting on eBay may be a little problematic. They do turn up but sometimes you have to wait awhile to get one in decent condition for a reasonable price. So many that turn up are pretty much trashed and sometimes sellers still want a fortune. It's chaos. I know you've played the evilBay game for years like I have so you know that patience wins out in the end. Depending on what kind of deals come up you may find a nice #3390 box (long box, Series 1000) that you could use your dinos to fill up. Just make sure it has a decent Vacu-Form terrain piece, which are chipped and cracked much of the time.

Back around 2001 I was in your situation regarding my Marx dino collection. I still had the dinos and four terrain pieces from my old square box (#3394) set but no box or booklet. At a toy show I found a guy with a #3390 long box for sale. It also had a nice Vacu-Form terrain piece and the booklet but no dinos so it was perfect for what I needed. I found out the original contents of the set and filled it out with my dinos. I eventually used my original four terrain pieces in another set. After I started using eBay in 2002 I gradually built up a stash of playset stuff by buying lots and when I would buy an incomplete set with a nice box I would finish it with pieces from my stash. And, believe me, these sets are always incomplete when you buy them off the 'Bay. I've never bought one from a collector who had already completed it, I always built my own with original parts. The only exception is the #4208 from 1978 that I posted above. I bought that one new.

Good luck on your dino endeavors and if I can help just holler.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on December 14, 2014, 05:04:15 PM
I wish that you'd been one of the playset designers working for Marx back in the day!

 8)
Man, that would have been the dream job. Thanks for the kind words, Hep.  :)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on December 14, 2014, 07:43:13 PM
Scared up another ad for the Marx Prehistoric Mountain #3414 (1975). Also shown is another Marx "vertical" playset, Comanche Pass.

(http://www.plaidstallions.com/marx/marxp6.jpg)

Found this at: http://plaidstallions.com/ (http://plaidstallions.com/)

Check out the Archives. There are some pretty cool monster collections there as well as scads of cool catalog pages.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on December 15, 2014, 10:26:04 AM
Man, that would have been the dream job.

This week's job, a Disney Sleeping Beauty playset complete with a pink dragon, baby blue castle and pastel coloured rocks and other scenery. It's time we enlarged our market to include girls. Are you up to the challenge or should we find someone else for the job?

 ???
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on December 15, 2014, 04:06:07 PM
This week's job, a Disney Sleeping Beauty playset complete with a pink dragon, baby blue castle and pastel coloured rocks and other scenery. It's time we enlarged our market to include girls. Are you up to the challenge or should we find someone else for the job?

 ???
I would have done it, but I'd have worked those Bathing Beauties into it somehow.  >:D
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on December 15, 2014, 04:08:50 PM
Here's the new MPC logo I cooked up for the Ancient Dark God Playset.  >:D

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MPCADGplaysetLogo_zps6c2385af.jpg)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on December 15, 2014, 05:00:03 PM
Marx also produced what is commonly referred to by collectors as the "Polka Dot Boxed Sets".

This is the Prehistoric Animal Set 13 Pieces #P-913 (Marx, 1957).
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/Marx13pcPolkaDotSet_zpse48556eb.jpg)

CONTENTS:

1 Medium Mold Group (PL-750) (6 Dinos in Gray)

1 Small Mold Group (PL-755-7) (7 Dinos in Green)

13 Dinos Total

This is the Prehistoric Animals and Cavemen 16 Piece Set #P-1029 (Marx, 1958).
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/Marx16pcPolkaDotSet_zps9c3b8dd0.jpg)

CONTENTS:

1 Medium Mold Group (PL-750) (6 Dinos in Gray)

1 Small Mold Group (PL-755-7) (7 Dinos in Green)

13 Dinos Total

3 Cavemen (Any 3 from the Group of 6 Poses in Cream)

There may have been a copy of the Marx Booklet included in these.
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MarkBookletP561F_zps8b714868.jpg)

These were listed in the Sears Christmas Catalogs as follows:
13 Piece Set was listed in the 1957 Wishbook for 87 cents
16 Piece Set was listed in the 1958 Wishbook for 88 cents
16 Piece Set was listed in the 1959 Wishbook for 89 cents

They were advertised as a way to bolster the dinosaur count in the bigger playsets, but more were probably sold to people who couldn't afford the full size sets. The Polka Dot Box Sets were probably only sold through catalogs. Brick & mortar stores usually sold the loose dinos in bins for anywhere from 10 cents to a quarter. I have a Pot-Bellied T-Rex with 10 cents stamped on his belly that I bought when I was a wee Dinokid probably around 1962.

The Polka Dot Boxes are pretty hard to find now. They are much more scarce than the full size boxes. They show up on eBay occasionally and you can usually get them without breaking the bank because most people don't have a clue how scarce these things really are. When they do show up they almost always are incomplete, or contain broken dinos, or both. You can find the original dinos to complete them, but the trick is finding a color matched mold group. It's easy to put together a color matched mold group from 1971 and after Marx dinos because that "Heritage" plastic all looks alike, but the older lead based plastic varied much more and finding the right dinos in the same color and shade (or similarly marbled) can be a challenge.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on December 15, 2014, 07:07:16 PM
Quote from: horrorhunter
Brick & mortar stores usually sold the loose dinos in bins for anywhere from 10 cents to a quarter. I have a Pot-Bellied T-Rex with 10 cents stamped on his belly that I bought when I was a wee Dinokid probably around 1962.

Too cool to still have that ten cent dinosaur!

Back in 1958 when I was in grade one I remember a variety store on the west side of Wharncliffe Road that had five cent knight figures displayed beside the penny candies in a glass fronted cabinet. Unfortunately we moved before I acquired the wherewithal to buy any of them.

 :(


Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on December 15, 2014, 08:42:32 PM
Too cool to still have that ten cent dinosaur!

Back in 1958 when I was in grade one I remember a variety store on the south side of Wharncliffe Road that had five cent knight figures displayed beside the penny candies in a glass fronted cabinet. Unfortunately we moved before I acquired the wherewithal to buy any of them.

 :(
Yeah, that Pot-Bellied Rex with the 10c on his belly is one of my prized dinos. I'm pretty sure I picked him up in '62 or '63 before I got the squarebox set for my 4th birthday. I liked toy dinos a lot before I got the playset, but when I got it I really went toy dino crazy. The next year in '64 MPC started selling their carded sets of 12 dinos (2 different cards). I conned my parents into buying me several of those, and I still have a bunch of the original ones as well as the MPC dinos I've picked up off eBay over the years. That reminds me, I discovered that I had a playset I didn't even know I had! I found a JC Penney '76 Christmas catalog ad for an MPC playset and between the photo and the text I discovered I had the entire set all along in my stash...even the original box. I'll be posting that one later on. I still have several dino playsets to post, as well as a couple to repost which deserve better than the crappy pictures from my old camera. Lotsa dinoing to come from me, and I think bigbud is getting fired up for toy dinos too, so we may see more posts from him.  ;)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on December 16, 2014, 04:31:45 PM
Superior produced three of the best After-Marx sets in the late '80s. This is my Rulers Of The Earth 47-Piece Prehistoric Dinosaur Playset #5501 (Superior, 1987) (the medium size set).

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/SuperiorMediumSet1_zpse1b34095.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/SuperiorMediumSet2_zps4da61c03.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/SuperiorMediumSet3_zpscbf10be3.jpg)

CONTENTS:

2 Land Bridges Terrain (Yellow & Brown Hard Plastic)

2 Boulders (Yellow & Brown Hard Plastic)

1 Large Mold Group (Pot-Bellied T-Rex, Brontosaurus, Kronosaurus, in various swirled colors)

1 Medium Mold Group (6 Dinos in various swirled colors)

9 Dinosaurs Total

24 Cavemen (12 in Reddish Brown, 12 in Beige)

4 Palm Trees & 4 Ferns (Black Trunks/Bases, Green Leaves)

36" X 32" Playmat

Dinosaur Booklet

"Booklet" (Really a large single sheet folded into booklet size. This is the front and back.):
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/SuperiorBooklet1_zps03ee851f.jpg)

Inside of the front and back. Fully unfolded it covers each dino and gives a timeline.
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/SuperiorBooklet2_zps9d0acf04.jpg)

Strange that the Superior Booklet covered the Small Mold Group dinos (see Sphenacodon and Dimetrodon above) since Superior only used the Large Mold, Medium Mold, and Second Series Mold for their sets. The Small Mold was gone by the late '80s, believed lost, damaged, or in the hands of another company. They probably just copied information from the original Marx Booklets.

Superior sets were only sold for a couple of years and are much more scarce than original Marx sets. Superior made great dinos using good quality plastic in the old Marx molds (which were beginning to show signs of wear by now). The colors were swirled which makes them popular with collectors. Superior also made good quality palm trees with black trunks, and nice cavemen in beige and reddish brown. In the medium and large sets they included a great playmat, very large and thick, and well designed. Not so great was the terrain Superior used, except in the large set with the large Marx Mountain main piece molded in yellow and brown. The smaller terrain pieces were just land bridges and boulders from the old Marx Comanche Pass mold. Worst about the Superior sets are the flimsy cardboard boxes they came in. The boxes are designed pretty well from an art/layout standpoint but they are so thin they literally fall apart if you aren't careful (Marx used tough corrugated boxes in the old days). I have all three Superior sets but I never have found a surviving large Superior Mountain box. The weight and size of the large set was especially tough on the flimsy cardboard and the big boxes are tough to find.

BTW, that original price sticker on my box above reads "Lowens" and "$19.99". Seems expensive for that set in 1987. Maybe that's another reason Superior sets weren't sold for too long. I guess production costs by that time forced high retail prices. Anyway, the combination of scarcity and collector demand could make buying a Superior set today a pricey proposition as well. You never know in the chaos of evilBay though...I got my sets pretty cheap. Must have gotten lucky.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on December 16, 2014, 04:59:27 PM
Here's the Rulers Of The Earth 27-Piece Prehistoric Dinosaur Playset #5503 (Superior, 1987). This is the small Superior set.

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/SuperiorSmallSet1_zpsc9627eeb.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/SuperiorSmallSet2_zps9f0d6874.jpg)

CONTENTS:

1 Land Bridge (Yellow & Brown Hard Plastic)

1 Boulder (Yellow & Brown Hard Plastic)

1 Medium Mold Group (6 Dinos in Various Swirled Colors) (The Box says 5 Dinos but I'll bet they usually put the entire Medium Mold Group of 6 in these sets)

12 Cavemen (6 in Reddish Brown, 6 in Beige)

4 Palm Trees & 4 Ferns (Black Trunks/Bases & Green Leaves)

These small sets had no booklet or playmat. This one still has the contents factory sealed in plastic bags. I won the eBay auction for this set a few months ago and only had to pay $15 plus shipping. I had a high bid in of about 4 times that and still only thought I had about a 50/50 chance of winning it. You never know about eBay. But I'm very pleased to have gotten it for next to nothing.  :)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on December 16, 2014, 05:18:32 PM
This is a better shot of the dinos from my Superior Rulers Of The Earth 47-Piece Playset. The reason Superior dinos are so popular with collectors is the swirled colors. Even though there are some small molding flaws where the old Marx molds were showing wear, these are some really nice examples of After-Marx dinos.

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/SuperiorDinos_zpsa514fba8.jpg)

Superior dinosaurs were from either the Large Mold Group (3 dinos), the Medium Mold Group (6 dinos), or the Second Series Mold Group (8 dinos). They came in one of three swirled colors- green, gray, or brown. Because of the swirled patterns each Superior dino is unique, like the highly sought after marbled Marx dinos from the '50s/early '60s. Superior dinos were never sold in bins, bags, or blister cards. You could only get them in these playsets. They are much harder to find than original Marx dinos and usually sell for more (except rare color Marx dinos like marbled, metallic silver, metallic green, tan, and a few other color/dino combinations). Many sellers who don't know anything about Marx dinos think Superior dinos are just another color of Marx. Sometimes you can get lucky and find a Superior or two in a lot of Marx/MPC, but not often.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on December 16, 2014, 07:18:56 PM
The next year in '64 MPC started selling their carded sets of 12 dinos (2 different cards). I conned my parents into buying me several of those, and I still have a bunch of the original ones....

Have you ever managed to score a mint-on-card set? If not, have you been trying?

 ???
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on December 16, 2014, 08:50:28 PM
Have you ever managed to score a mint-on-card set? If not, have you been trying?

 ???
Yeah, I have a couple which I'll post. I'm always trying to find MOC dino sets but each year they get harder to find and more expensive. Now MOC examples are almost always over $100 and the nice ones seem to trade for closer to $200. Considering their rarity I think even these prices are too low. If I were rich I would probably have a dozen of them by now. Sadly they usually sell for more than I can spend at the time.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on December 16, 2014, 09:09:36 PM
Marx Second Series Carded Set (Early '60s):

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/Marx2ndSeriesCardedDinos_zps38dd2991.jpg)


MPC First Series Carded Set #873 (1964):

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MPC1stSeriesCardedDinos_zpsc1286428.jpg)


The Marx card is rough but I've seen much worse. It's intact with undamaged dinos and pretty good compared to the ones which (rarely) become available. All original Second Series Marx Dinos/Prehistoric Mammals are highly prized, and especially the Tan ones.

The MPC card is very nice and a collector would be hard pressed to find a better one today. The price sticker reads "Sav-on" and "89 cents".

I also have several backing cards for various carded dino sets from the '60s and '70s that I picked up cheap in an eBay auction several years ago.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on December 18, 2014, 02:47:32 PM
Strange Change, The Lost World #4581 (Mattel, 1967) is like a cross between a dinosaur/monster playset and a Thingmaker set. The Strange Change Machine is a heating unit disguised as a time machine. The creatures are plastic which can be compacted into little squares (w/Mattel logo) when heated, and they stay in square form until heated again when they expand back into the creature.

Awesome Box:
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/StrangeChangeTLW3_zpscfc1b240.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/StrangeChangeTLW4_zpsd4bed0e4.jpg)

Instructions Side Of Playmat & Both Supplemental Creature Cards (without creature squares):
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/StrangeChangeTLW1_zpsadd356a9.jpg)

CONTENTS:

Strange Change Machine

Large Vacu-Form Mountain (Green Thin Hard Plastic, Brittle)

16 Time Capsules (Creature Squares) (in Red, Yellow, Green, and Purple)

Tongs (Blue Soft Plastic)

Landscape Map (Playmat)/Instruction Sheet

8 More Time Capsules Available On 2 Blister Cards

I still have the remnants of my original set that I received for Christmas in 1967. I purchased this complete set off eBay a couple of years ago. The heating unit still works, but I wouldn't use it on the creatures/Time Capsules because they get scorched and damaged if changed too much and they don't retain their shape as well. I had big fun with this as a young Monsterkid. My favorite creatures were always Membrane Man, Hooded Skullkaronamus, and Snaggle Fanged Oculus.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strange_Change_Machine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strange_Change_Machine)

http://www.collecttoys.net/1960s-Toys/strange-change-machine.php (http://www.collecttoys.net/1960s-Toys/strange-change-machine.php)

http://toys.pop-cult.com/strange-change-machine.html (http://toys.pop-cult.com/strange-change-machine.html)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4IVTXfESeY#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4IVTXfESeY#ws)

This vid is great. It even has the original commercial in it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHuyrP2YG-4# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHuyrP2YG-4#)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=WL&v=aokEzQ7WrP0&feature=player_detailpage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=WL&v=aokEzQ7WrP0&feature=player_detailpage)

Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on December 18, 2014, 05:02:16 PM
Wow! That is too cool!

 8)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: bigbud on December 18, 2014, 09:46:30 PM
Very nice stuff!
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: bigbud on December 18, 2014, 10:07:19 PM
Didn't include these guys in my previous photos cause they didn't have the Marx "look". But can't pass on a chance for Horrorhunter to have a look and maybe comment on em.......

(http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd344/bigbud3/IMG_6029_zps2e37297b.jpg)

(http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd344/bigbud3/IMG_6030_zps7b2896a6.jpg)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on December 18, 2014, 11:14:17 PM
Cool! What then are those?

 ???
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on December 19, 2014, 01:20:24 AM
Didn't include these guys in my previous photos cause they didn't have the Marx "look". But can't pass on a chance for Horrorhunter to have a look and maybe comment on em.......

Those are nice, Bud.

The four red ones at the top are MPCs: Glyptodont, Dimetrodon, Plateosaurus, and Struthimimus.

The silver one w/long nose at the top is Nabisco (Lido) Macrauchenia, silver one to the right/middle is Nabisco (Lido) Baluchitherium.

The little wilmpy looking green, red and white ones are Timmees (not much collector demand).

The red alligator is an MPC jungle animal.

Not sure about the little elephant at the top but he doesn't look prehistoric.

The rest in green, brown, and black are Nabisco (Lido) that were premiums in Wheat Honeys & Rice Honeys, and later Fritos 6-packs of small bags.

Nothing super valuable there but most dino collectors are into MPC & Nabisco (Lido) (me included). The Timmees not so much.

Here's a link to a previous post in this thread covering the Nabisco dinos/prehistoric mammals made by the Lido company:
http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=23582.msg438031#msg438031 (http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=23582.msg438031#msg438031)




Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on December 20, 2014, 06:54:48 PM
Prehistoric Times Play Set #3398 (Marx, 1961) is the set most Marx Prehistorics collectors strive to complete. I finally completed mine but it took over 10 years to do so (see pics below).
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/Marx3398_1961_1_zpsdb9c9241.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/Marx3398_1961_2_zpsfb76f90f.jpg)

CONTENTS:

3 Piece Terrain (Cave, Rock Arch, & Lake in Brown/Black Marbled Hard Plastic)

1 Revised Mold Group (PL-977) (8 Dinos in Lt. Gray)

1 Second Series Mold Group (PL-1083) (8 Dinos/Prehistoric Mammals in Reddish Brown)

1 Medium Mold Group (PL-750) (6 Dinos in Tan)

2 Small Mold Groups (PL-755-7) (2 X 7 Dinos in Gray & Green)

36 Dinos/Prehistoric Mammals Total

2 Sets Of 6 Cavemen (12 Total) (Cream & Dark Tan)

4 Palm Trees & 4 Ferns (Brown Hard Plastic Trunks/Bases & Green Soft Plastic Leaves)

4 Terrain Clips (Brown Hard Plastic) (My 2 Extra Clips Are On Top Of The Box- See Pic Above)

1 Revised Booklet (P-1311)

Booklet:
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/Marx3398_1961booklet1_zps6399a72c.jpg)

Back:
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/Marx3398_1961booklet2_zpsf9483ff5.jpg)

Prominent Marx collector Joe DeMarco called this the "granddaddy of all playsets" and "the pinnacle of Marx production". An article on Marx Prehistorics in PFPC #64 calls it "King Of The Prehistoric Sets". To non-collectors this may just look like another set, but to Marx enthusiasts this is the one to strive for. The box is extremely cool and hard to find, showing an illustration of a Marx sleek T-Rex walking out of concentric circles representing a time warp. It's commonly called the "Time Tunnel Box" by collectors. It's the first Marx playset to include the Second Series Mold Group of dinosaurs and prehistoric mammals, and they are in the desirable reddish brown color in the #3398. The only other way to get the original lead-based plastic Second Series animals was on the blister card. One big reason the 1961 #3398 is sought after is it's inclusion of the Medium Mold Group of 6 dinos in the sought after Tan color, and the only way to get them in Tan. Time Tunnel boxes are VERY hard to find and many Marx collectors are still seeking one. This is also the first time the revised booklet appeared. In 1971 the #3398 was re-released with dinos and cavemen in "Heritage" plastic and a photo box and reprinted revised booklet. The 1971 version is fairly common and the Heritage plastic version of the dinos is uniform in color and look, offering none of the variety or premium colors of the original plastic.

About ten or eleven years ago I got lucky and picked up a near complete 1961 #3398 off eBay but it had no box (of course  :(). It was only missing two of the dark tan cavemen and I got it for around a hundred bucks so I bought a new box to store it in and called it good. I've been on the hunt for a box and those two color matching cavemen for the last decade. In that time I've seen maybe half a dozen Time Tunnel Boxes pop up on eBay and every single one was in terrible condition, and I was outbid each time. Finally, a few days ago, I landed the box above with the remnants of that #3398. The two cavemen were present as well as an upgrade for my terrain pieces! That box is rough but so is every one I've seen for sale. When it comes to something that rare and desirable you take what you can find...and I finally finished the set. I could keep the pieces in the box but I've decided to continue to keep them in the new box so as not to put any more stress on the old veteran of the Dinokid Wars. I printed a pic of another Time Tunnel box (better than mine, but still with pencil holes  :laugh:) and taped it to the new box to identify the contents and I will store them together with my other playsets. Quest over...whew!  :)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on December 22, 2014, 01:48:15 PM
Here's a little guy enjoying his Prehistoric Times #3390 (Marx, 1957) playset under the Christmas Tree.

([url]http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp266/pro2am/Larry-MarxDinosaurset-Christmas1957.jpg[/url])

A pic of my #3390.

([url]http://imageshack.us/a/img818/3567/mdw8.jpg[/url])


That's the biggest and most elaborate Marx dinosaur playset, is it not?

 ???
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on December 22, 2014, 02:54:17 PM
That's the biggest and most elaborate Marx dinosaur playset, is it not?

 ???

No, in terms of collector desirability and dinosaur quality and count (36) this one is (#3398 from 1961 just posted previously).
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/Marx3398_1961_1_zpsdb9c9241.jpg)

In terms of terrain one of the Marx Mountain Sets, either One Million BC (1974), Prehistoric Mountain (1975), or Giant Prehistoric Mountain (1977), is the biggest and most elaborate (all 3 have the same mountain terrain pieces).

However, I have a really rare one that I'm going to post soon that trumps them all. It has 42 Marx dinos in several premium colors, and even though it lacks the spectacular mountain terrain (which didn't exist yet), it has more terrain than any other set...and an enigmatic back story. It's the Prehistoric Times GIANT Playset #1400 (Marx, 1963).
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on December 22, 2014, 05:43:27 PM
Next up is an unusual little set. The World Of Dinosaurs #4130 (Marx, 1979) is the last prehistoric playset Marx made before going belly-up. It's a cute little set, but you can see what Marx playsets were reduced to at the end. The box is little larger than a cereal box. But in spite of it's diminutive size it's a very desirable set, with beautiful box art and a scarce footprint on the marketplace.

Attractively Illustrated Box:
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/Marx1979DinoSet1_zps7b63faf8.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/Marx1979DinoSet2_zpscbe01126.jpg)

Box Is Reversed For This Pic:
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/Marx1979DinoSet3_zps0553be62.jpg)

CONTENTS:

Small Vacu-Form Terrain Piece (Green Paper Thin Hard Plastic) (Unique to the #4130)

1 Revised Mold Group (PL-977) (8 Dinos in Canary Yellow Heritage Plastic)

1 Medium Mold Group (PL-750) (6 Dinos in Blue Heritage Plastic)

4 Cavemen (Any 4 from the Group of 6 Poses)

2 Palm Trees & 2 Ferns (Trunks/Bases in Brown Hard Plastic, Leaves in Green Soft Plastic)

18"X24" Plastic Playmat (Unique to the #4130)

Paperwork?

I bought this set off eBay a few years ago and it is complete according to the box and everything I've been able to find out about it (which isn't much). I don't know if Marx included any paperwork with these sets. There is no assembly except sticking the foliage pieces together and with all the cutbacks in size and quantity it's possible this set never included paperwork. These show up on eBay every few months in various states of completion and I've never seen any listed with any instruction sheets or booklets. Also, the small Vacu-Form rock is usually missing, or badly cracked if present. It's a tough piece to find in nice condition.

Marx made Storage Box Sets for other genres around this time- war, western, the usual. They are all kind of scarce now and really hard to find complete. When you do find one you might get it cheap whether it's complete or missing half the parts. Most sellers just don't know what these things are worth in relation to other similar items. Several years ago I was in frequent contact with Mike Fredericks (writer of Dinosaur Collectibles) and he gave me an estimated value then of around $200 for a nice complete #4130. I know if I had one for sale I certainly wouldn't take less than that for it. But, in the chaos and rampant ignorance of evilBay you might find anything at any price. That's most of the fun of it.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Mord on December 22, 2014, 06:39:19 PM
 Amazing! Dude, how big is your house? Your collection is crazy-good (and huge).
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on December 22, 2014, 07:07:50 PM
...in terms of collector desirability and dinosaur quality and count (36) this one(Prehistoric Times) is (#3398 from 1961 just posted previously).

I see that one doesn't have a playmat yet. With what set did the playmats first make an appearance?

In terms of terrain one of the Marx Mountain Sets, either One Million BC (1974), Prehistoric Mountain (1975), or Giant Prehistoric Mountain (1977), is the biggest and most elaborate (all 3 have the same mountain terrain pieces).

The One Million BC included slightly more pieces than the other two, did it not?

 ???

Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on December 22, 2014, 07:47:41 PM
I see that one doesn't have a placemat yet. With what set did the placemats first make an appearance?

The One Million BC included slightly more pieces than the other two, did it not?

 ???
I don't have the One Million BC set so I'm not sure if it had a playmat or not. I know the Prehistoric Mountain (1975) had a playmat and that is the first one I'm sure that had one. If the One Million BC (1974) set had one then it would be first. The set before that was the revised #3398 (1971) and it did not have the playmat.

The guy who was supposed to have written the book said the caveman count in the One Million BC mountain set was only 12 and it did not contain the playmat. If his info is correct then the One Million BC set actually had less pieces than the Prehistoric Mountain (1975).
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on December 22, 2014, 07:56:53 PM
Amazing! Dude, how big is your house? Your collection is crazy-good (and huge).
It's pretty big, and packed. I had to start being careful what I buy in terms of size because in some places it's hard not to bump into things. It also makes it difficult to properly display your stuff when it gets stacked up like that. I'm not like one of those weird "horders" who can't walk for all the junk in their homes, it isn't like that. It's just that my shelves and closets are frickin' full of stuff. But it's all stuff I love so I don't want to sell any of it. You know how hard it is to get stuff back once it's gotten rid of.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Mord on December 22, 2014, 09:40:21 PM
 You bet. I'm still trying to find a complete set of teal Uni Monsters that I sold 20 years ago.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on December 23, 2014, 03:49:50 PM
These are my Chocolasaurs Dinotales Series 3 (Kaiyodo, 2002). I think these were high end Japanese candy premiums. Very beautiful little prehistoric models. Be sure to click the pics to view the details better.

All 24 of Series 3, #s 49-72:
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/Chocolasaurs3_1_zps8b427955.jpg)

These are the individual little paper sheets which came with each model. The backs have diagrams for snap-together assembly.
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/Chocolasaurs3_2_zps9b739d74.jpg)

They all came with this Series 3 Checklist. Shown front and back.
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/Chocolasaurs3_3_zps36d46e80.jpg)

I saw these for months in Prehistoric Times magazine but Mike Fredericks was asking either $100 or $125 for them. I started checking eBay not long after that (around 2003) and finally a set came up at auction. I won it for around $50. I wish I had all three sets but with the crazy prices on eBay for these I have to place them low on my priority list. They are almost always listed individually on BINs for around $10-$25 each. They are nice though.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on December 24, 2014, 04:59:26 PM
Several years ago I won an eBay auction for some MPC dino playset pieces which included the original shipping box. The set was obviously not complete, but I had no way of knowing what the original set contained since there is virtually no information on MPC prehistoric playsets the way there is for Marx sets. Then, a few days ago, I was on cyber safari hunting down pics for Christmas catalog ads for dino sets to post on UMA. I was thunderstruck when I found a 1976 JC Penney Christmas catalog ad for the very set that I had the original box for! The model number matched exactly, and with the info from the ad pic and text I was able to reconstruct the set from my playset stash I had accumulated over the years (it's very large). The only thing I'm missing is the instruction booklet. In the 13 years I've been haunting eBay for dino toys I've never seen an MPC dinosaur playset instruction booklet. I store the set in a new box with a copy of the playset ad taped to the front. The original box is pretty small and I don't want to damage anything. Boy, they really crammed that stuff in there back in the day.

1976 JC Penney Christmas Catalog Ad:
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MPCdinoplayset1976JCPenneys_zpse6bc6651.jpg)

Here, then, is the Prehistoric Playset #923-2083 (MPC, 1976, JC Penney).

Original Shipping Box:
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MPCDinoPlaysetPenney1_zpsd5c86f8c.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MPCDinoPlaysetPenney2_zps8bf42cb7.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MPCDinoPlaysetPenney3_zpsb83ea3f6.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MPCDinoPlaysetPenney4_zpsb15bdece.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MPCDinoPlaysetPenney5_zps10707d24.jpg)

CONTENTS:

2 Mountains (Blue Soft Plastic)

4 Rock Arches (Blue Soft Plastic)

2 Caves (Gray Soft Plastic)

60 Dinosaurs (2 or 3 of each of the 24 MPC Dinos in various colors)

10 Cavemen (3 poses in Red)

10 Palm Trees (Trunks in Green & Brown, Leaves in Green)

Instruction Booklet (according to the catalog ad)

MPC dinosaur playsets are much less sophisticated than Marx sets, but they are very colorful and hold a nostalgic charm for those of us who played with them as kids. I never had one of the big MPC sets like this when I was a kid. I had several of the carded sets of 12 dinos though (2 different cards for a total of 24 different MPC dinos/prehistoric mammals). There aren't really any premium colors or types of MPC dinos the way there are with Marx. The ones in metallic blue seem to be a little more desirable but are no less scarce than any others. Some of the unusual colored MPC dinos that came as cereal premiums do tend to sell for a little more (purple & orange & ?). MPC Wooly Mammoths and Megatheriums seem to sell for more because of demand and size. MPC made five prehistoric mammals that Marx never made: Ceratogaulus, Machrauchenia, Glyptodont, Diatryma, and Dire Wolf. These five have excellent sculpts to rival Marx sculpts, and are probably in bigger demand for collectors wanting to add to Marx collections.

By finding this old 1976 JC Penney Christmas Catalog Ad it allowed me to put together a set I never knew I had. I guess this is my Christmas present straight from a 1976 Christmas Catalog. A dino toy collector could hardly ask for a better gift than an original Dinosaur Playset.

Happy Holidays

Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Mord on December 24, 2014, 06:23:20 PM
 All I can say is...WOW! Now that's a serious collection.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on December 24, 2014, 08:33:15 PM
All I can say is...WOW! Now that's a serious collection.
Thanks, pal. More to come.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Dr. Madd on December 24, 2014, 10:46:39 PM
He must mean the color of the mountain/rock pieces. It could have been the Marx Giant Prehistoric Mountain (1977), or the #4208 Marx Prehistoric Dinosaur Playset (1978) (pic below).
([url]http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/7/2/4/4/6/2/webimg/572282316_tp.jpg[/url])


I had this one! I still have the mammoth from it, but my family dog mauled the poor thing.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on December 25, 2014, 12:07:04 AM
I had this one! I still have the mammoth from it, but my family dog mauled the poor thing.

That's the Marx #4208 from 1978. Here's a pic of mine.

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MarxPrehistoricDinosaurPlayset4208_1_zpsa9285baa.jpg)

And here's a Christmas Catalog Ad for it (probably Sears '79 Wishbook):
(http://webdebris.com/70s/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/1979_prehistoric_dinosaur_play_set.jpg)

Some of those dinos in that ad are white! Now, that's really weird. I've never seen a white Marx dino, whether it's original Marx plastic, Marx Heritage plastic, After-Marx, or repop.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on December 25, 2014, 02:02:24 PM
MPC dinosaur playsets are much less sophisticated than Marx sets, but they are very colorful and hold a nostalgic charm for those of us who played with them as kids.

They're wild colourful! I can sure see why they would have been popular with both kids then and adult enthusiasts now.

I never had one of the big MPC sets like this when I was a kid.

Several years ago I won an eBay auction for some MPC dino playset pieces which included the original shipping box. The set was obviously not complete....

By finding this old 1976 JC Penney Christmas Catalog Ad it allowed me to put together a set I never knew I had. I guess this is my Christmas present straight from a 1976 Christmas Catalog. A dino toy collector could hardly ask for a better gift than an original Dinosaur Playset.

Happy Holidays

Happy holidays indeed! No better present than finding that you can reconstruct something cool that you never even knew you had.

 8)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on December 25, 2014, 03:33:32 PM
Here is an interesting one I scared up off the web, Prehistoric Jungle Hunt from Toy Soldier Depot. It says it's a Limited Edition and it looks like a custom they put together a few copies of. I went to the TSD website and there was no sign of it. They seem to be sold out of all the dino sets they had listed. Probably hasn't been updated in awhile.

(http://www.prestoimages.net/store30/rd4597/4597_pd1377368_1.jpg)

Looks like Marx Second Series Dinos/Prehistoric Mammals with some dupes (probably repops), natives, hunters, tents, trucks, and weird terrain/foliage. Some of the rocks are from those lame Miner dino sets from '81 (poorly recast MPC rock arch and some company's rocks). The only good trees in the set are the repopped Marx "A" trees. The rest of the trees are cheap palms and those orange things look like undersea plants or coral...weird.

This is a good idea for a playset. If they added good terrain and foliage to this set with a nice colorful box it could be pretty cool. It also needs more dinos for variety, and a couple of nice big playmats with lots of water and jungle. I would have called it Dinosaur Safari.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Mord on December 25, 2014, 03:45:20 PM
 Some great ideas there, pal. The possibilities are endless with those playsets (hey, my "like" function finally works...I can officially "like" you now).
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on December 25, 2014, 04:15:39 PM
Some great ideas there, pal. The possibilities are endless with those playsets (hey, my "like" function finally works...I can officially "like" you now).
Hey, that's great. You got your "Like" back for Christmas. I "Like" it (and "Liked" your post about it).  :laugh:
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on December 25, 2014, 05:20:22 PM
Found another pic of a kid with his Marx Mountain Set. The pic info identified this as a One Million BC set. If it is then it's evidence that it did indeed contain a playmat. Of course it might just be misidentified, and actually be the Marx Prehistoric Mountain (1975) playset.

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2094/5768923191_6e4ceab739_z.jpg)

Too bad there isn't a box in that pic.

Those Marx Heritage dinos that look white in that fuzzy pic are actually the very common light gray color.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on December 29, 2014, 10:37:48 AM
I posted that set before but the pics weren't clear so I decided to repost since I picked up a better camera.

Your pictures are indeed much improved these days! What camera were you using previously, and what Nikon model did you buy recently? Is there anything special about the camera setting you're now using?

 ???
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on December 29, 2014, 06:26:13 PM
Your pictures are indeed much improved these days! What camera were you using previously, and what Nikon model did you buy recently? Is there anything special about the camera setting you're now using?

 ???
At first I was using a very cheap Vivitar, but now I have a Nikon COOLPIX L30. It's still just a point&shoot, but at least it's a decent one. I'm also using a tripod now. Picked them both up during the Black Friday sales for a really good price.

I still have quite a few dinosaur playsets to post, as well as some I plan to repost with better pictures. Just got sidetracked on some other genre playsets. I'm currently working on a Rocketship To Venus pulp-era playset with Earth Base, Rocketships, Astronauts, Aliens, Dinosaurs, Monsters, & Venusian Landscape including mountains, jungle, and swamp. Those steaming Venusian jungles were home to huge monsters and dinosaurs ya know!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on December 29, 2014, 06:53:47 PM
Rocketship to Venus? Everyone knows that Venus is inhabited by scantily clad Amazons! I'm looking forward to whatever you'll be posting.

 8)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Mord on December 31, 2014, 10:20:18 AM
Rocketship to Venus? Everyone knows that Venus is inhabited by scantily clad Amazons! I'm looking forward to whatever you'll be posting.

 8)
Scantily clad Amazons? You're barking up the wrong tree, Hep. My pal, Horror Hunter would never stoop so low. I double-dare him.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: WnewCreatureFeatures on December 31, 2014, 10:31:48 AM
Its true femme fatales on Venus

(http://abbottandcostellocollectibles.com/images/large/pc_232-225.jpg)

(http://belladonna.org/Gynotopia/gotomars.jpg)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on December 31, 2014, 05:05:32 PM
Rocketship to Venus? Everyone knows that Venus is inhabited by scantily clad Amazons! I'm looking forward to whatever you'll be posting.

 8)

Man, I wish I could find some hot 30mm scantily clad Amazon figures to put in my new custom playset! The major problem is that nobody ever made any. I don't want to use 25mm metal gaming figures since they would be too small and that's a whole different kind of figure. I like to put together Marx/MPC style playsets and D&D type figures just wouldn't fit.

However, this Rocketship To Venus playset should be fun. I'll have the box finished tonight, and the other parts I need should arrive the first of next week. No Amazons, but it will have an Earth base, rocketships, spacesuited humans, aliens, Venusian dinosaurs  :laugh:, Chaos Beast, Venusian Ogres, Giant Crawlers, and terrain of Venus including mountains, jungle, and swamp. Of course, this isn't the real Venus.. it's the pulp era sci-fi Venus. And, yes, I would love to put Amazons in it but, like I said, they haven't been made in 30mm. That's like back in the day everyone wanted a little Raquel Welch figure to go with their Marx One Million BC playset. I still want one.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_3sc4waZUesE/TSIvVV94DbI/AAAAAAAACyo/NOkGsFC1-s4/s1600/RaquelWelch_W10.jpg)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on December 31, 2014, 08:27:36 PM
You can order a full size one these days you know....

 >:D
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: frankenstein73 on December 31, 2014, 10:10:29 PM
Marx Flintstones Hunting party playset dinosaurs. These were painted by some kid along time ago, but pretty rare all the same.
tyrannosaurus was orange originally, you can see where a piece of tape was on the tail before they painted it.  and the "brontosaurus" was light blue before the brown paint wash.
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5301/5812802231_c33a4436b9_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/9RE8A8)155-5520_IMG (https://flic.kr/p/9RE8A8) by j-raysjunkyard (https://www.flickr.com/people/63416324(*at*)N02/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on December 31, 2014, 10:53:34 PM
That Flintstone's Hunting Party is very rare, and very cool.

(http://www.dinosaurcollector.150m.com/marx_files/HuntingParty.jpg)

Here's one of Don Glut's video bimbos with a pair.  >:D

(http://donglutsdinosaurs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/hunting-party-700x896.jpg)

Oh yeah, and she's holding a couple of dinosaurs too.  ;D
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on January 01, 2015, 12:20:01 AM
Given the choice, I'm not sure which box I'd pick.

 :-\

Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on January 01, 2015, 12:23:14 AM
Man, I wish I could find some hot 30mm scantily clad Amazon figures to put in my new custom playset! The major problem is that nobody ever made any. I don't want to use 25mm metal gaming figures since they would be too small and that's a whole different kind of figure. I like to put together Marx/MPC style playsets and D&D type figures just wouldn't fit.

I'm going to make a phone call Friday to see if I can help you out.

 :)

Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on January 01, 2015, 03:25:18 PM
This is my Rulers Of The Earth Mountain Set (Superior, 1987). It's probably the most desirable of the After-Marx Playsets. Unfortunately, I don't have an original box for this set as Superior boxes were made of thin cardboard and not many of the big ones survive. The box featured the same design and illustration as their smaller sets. It is complete, aside from the box.

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/SuperiorMountainSet1_zps052b69b5.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/SuperiorMountainSet2_zpsad420b9b.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/SuperiorMountainSet3_zpsf70b45d6.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/SuperiorMountainSet4_zpsc07f2420.jpg)

CONTENTS:

1 Mountain Terrain (Orange-Yellow & Brown Hard Plastic)

4 Land Bridges (Orange-Yellow & Brown Hard Plastic)

4 Boulder Halves (Orange-Yellow & Brown Hard Plastic)

1 Large Mold Group (Pot-Bellied T-Rex in Swirled Gray, Kronosaurus in Swirled Green, Brontosaurus in Swirled Brown)

1 Medium Mold Group (6 Dinos in 3 Swirled Colors)

1 Second Series Mold Group (8 Dinos/Prehistoric Mammals in 3 Swirled Colors)

17 Superior Dinos/Prehistoric Mammals Total

4 Sets of 6 Cavemen (24 Total Cavemen, 12 in Brick Red, 12 in Beige)

4 Palm Trees & 4 Ferns (Trunks/Bases in Black Hard Plastic, Leaves in Green Soft Plastic)

Playmat

Superior Booklet (Large Foldup Sheet)

Booklet (Front and Back Unfolded):
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/SuperiorBooklet1_zps03ee851f.jpg)

The Superior Mountain Set is by far the best of the three Superior sets, and quite scarce and desirable today. It features the best terrain of any of the three Superior sets- the large Marx mountain piece. It also features the full compliment of Superior swirled dinos- all 17. I'm still on the hunt for an original box, but I may never find one that isn't in shambles. The worst thing about Superior sets are their thin cardboard boxes. Most of the Superior Mountain Set boxes just came apart due to the size and weight of the contents. While it is the best of the After-Marx sets, the Superior mountain terrain still pales beside the original Marx mountain terrain. The Marx mountain terrain was a 5 piece setup which was fastened together with screws and nuts and had a land bridge and walking bridge, while the Superior mountain terrain is only the large Marx mountain piece. Still, the Superior set is impressive, and the best After-Marx set according to most toy dino enthusiasts (myself included).

Here are the other two smaller Superior boxes. The Superior Mountain Set box was designed like these, only much larger.
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/SuperiorMediumSet2_zps4da61c03.jpg)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Mord on January 01, 2015, 03:42:17 PM
 That's one hell of an impressive mega playset!!! Congrats, buddy.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on January 01, 2015, 05:58:28 PM
This is my Rulers Of The Earth Mountain Set (Superior, 1987). It's probably the most desirable of the After-Marx Playsets.

([url]http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/SuperiorMountainSet3_zpsf70b45d6.jpg[/url])


The colours of the prehistoric animals and terrain pieces are even more fabulous than the ones Marx used!

 8)

I believe that back in the 1990s a number of Marx playsets were repopped and reissued in boxes that very closely resembled the originals. There was a store that briefly dealt in these on the other side of town around the turn of the century. Do you know anything about these reissues? Were any of the dinosaur sets among the reissues?

 ???
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on January 01, 2015, 07:43:15 PM
I believe that a number of Marx playsets were repopped and reissued in boxes that very closely resembled the originals backin the 1990s. There was a store that briefly dealt in these on the other side of town around the turn of the century. Do you know anything about these reissues? Were any of the dinosaur sets among the reissues?

 ???

I remember seeing ads for two dino sets in the late '90s that I bought. One is the Flintstones Ruby Edition, and the other is the Jurassic Village Isle Of Terror set from 1996 by Marx of Miami (ReMarx). Here's a link to one for sale: http://www.motorcycle-memories.com/store/New-In-The-Box-Marx-Isle-Of-Terror-Jurassic-Village-Playset-One-Of-The-Last-Set_221604731969.html (http://www.motorcycle-memories.com/store/New-In-The-Box-Marx-Isle-Of-Terror-Jurassic-Village-Playset-One-Of-The-Last-Set_221604731969.html) ($250 is a high price for this set but you seldom ever see them for sale. I don't think many were made. Also, the box is huge and finding the set complete in a nice box could be a challenge. I believe it sold for around $70-$80 originally)

I ordered my Jurassic Village set from an ad in Toy Shop so mine is complete with a nice box. This set is a conglomeration of recast Marx and MPC parts made to capitalize on the popularity of Jurassic Park. I'll be posting both the Flintstones Ruby Edition set and the Jurassic Village set at some point in this thread. I still have quite a few dino sets and items to post so I'm not sure when I'll get around to these two After-Marx sets.

There were other Marx recast sets made in the '90s but I don't know much about them. There was a pirate set and a Battleground (War) set that I remember. I think there was also a knight's castle set and probably a western set too. I only paid attention to dinosaur and monster related items so the others went under my radar.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on January 01, 2015, 07:53:01 PM
The colours of the prehistoric animals and terrain pieces are even more fabulous than the ones Marx used!

 8)

The Superior recasts of the original Marx dinos are very desirable and much more scarce than the average original Marx dinos. Superior dinos were made in green, brown, and gray, and each was swirled with different patterns so each is unique. Sellers who know about Superior dinos ask much more for them than the common colored original Marx dinos. Of course, many sellers are ignorant of the difference and think Superior dinos are just another color of Marx.

Superior Dinosaurs (Large Mold Group & Medium Mold Group):
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/SuperiorDinos_zpsa514fba8.jpg)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on January 01, 2015, 08:17:20 PM
The Superior recasts appear to be of a very high quality? Is this true?

And how did Superior acquire the right to recast Marx dino playsets? Did Superior buy all the molds and rights to Marx' entire line of plastic playsets?

 ???
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on January 01, 2015, 08:47:59 PM
The Superior recasts appear to be of a very high quality? Is this true?

And how did Superior acquire the right to recast Marx dino playsets? Did Superior buy all the molds and rights to Marx' entire line of plastic playsets?

 ???
Superior recasts are special because of the swirled colors in the plastic, and Superior did use good quality plastic as well. The Marx molds were showing wear by 1987 so there are some imperfections in the Superior dinos that the original Marx dinos didn't have, but those imperfections are minor and hardly affect the look of the dinosaurs.

Regarding rights it seems that none were needed. Since Marx went out of business in 1979 it was like the wild west with After-Marx dino production. Whoever got the molds just started making playsets, and those molds have changed hands several times. Marx Of Miami (ReMarx) even used the Marx name and logo. Maybe rights were being sold with the molds but I never read anything about that. It was probably more of a case that there was nobody left willing or able to file suit. Many of the old companies' product is pretty much up for grabs it would seem. Dennis Druktenis of Scary Monsters has been reprinting Charlton comics and monster mags for years. If someone wanted to and could get the molds and set up the operation they could probably remarket any of the old MPC (Multiple) toys. If anyone knows more about this please post.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: jimm on January 02, 2015, 01:17:04 AM
How's the scale on these? Only Point of reference I noticed was the young lady a page or so back :) maybe put some regular mpc monsters in there for reference?
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on January 02, 2015, 01:43:01 AM
How's the scale on these? Only Point of reference I noticed was the young lady a page or so back :) maybe put some regular mpc monsters in there for reference?

Here ya go, jimm. There's a ruler in this pic of the Flintstones Hunting Party. The three large dinos in that set are much larger than regular Marx dinos, but the other ones in the pic are normal size.
(http://www.dinosaurcollector.150m.com/marx_files/HuntingParty.jpg)

And here's a pic of the custom MPC set I made with the MPC Monsters alongside the MPC dinos.
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/AncientDarkGodPlayset5_zps9400558d.jpg)

MPC dinos are roughly about the size of Marx dinos, but most are a bit more slender. The Marx Sleek T-Rex, Pot-Bellied T-Rex, Brontosaurus, and Kronosaurus are a little larger than their MPC brethren.. maybe an inch to an inch and a half longer, and more bulky.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: jimm on January 02, 2015, 01:55:31 AM
Gotcha thanks
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on January 02, 2015, 09:28:03 AM
MPC dinos are roughly about the size of Marx dinos, but most are a bit more slender. The Marx Sleek T-Rex, Pot-Bellied T-Rex, Brontosaurus, and Kronosaurus are a little larger than their MPC brethren.. maybe an inch to an inch and a half longer, and more bulky.

No problem! Animals in nature aren't all the same size either. The MPC dinos are clearly just younger, smaller specimens.

 :)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on January 02, 2015, 04:59:14 PM
This is my Prehistoric Times Giant Playset #1400 (Marx, 1963). Not many collectors have heard of this one as it's quite scarce. The origin of this set is mysterious, but it is theorized that Marx was winding down Prehistoric Playset production and wanted to use accumulated inventory so they threw the prehistoric sink at this one. It features the four terrain pieces from the squarebox sets and the new 3 piece cave/rock arch/pond from the #3398. It also includes more dinos than any other Marx set- 42! Six of those are two sets of the Large Mold Group which was taken out of production around 1958. It's also the only Marx dinosaur set with cardboard terrain/accessories. Maybe Marx was experimenting toward the end of that production period. In any event there wouldn't be another Marx prehistoric playset until 1971 with the revised #3398 and Heritage plastic dinosaurs.

Box & Booklet:
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MarxPTgiantcustom1_zps4b7d73e6.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MarxPTgiantcustom2_zps4296e9e5.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MarxPTgiantcustom3_zps88f5309c.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MarxPTgiantcustom4_zps737ee625.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MarxPTgiantcustom5_zps55737531.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MarxPTgiantcustom6_zps0bd7c11c.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MarxPTgiantcustom7_zpscfc5f963.jpg)

Extra Cardboard Terrain/Accessories:
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MarxPTgiantcustom8_zps3958ff7d.jpg)

CONTENTS:

1 Cave/Rock Arch/Pond Terrain Set w/4 Clips (Brown Hard Plastic w/Black Marbling)

1 Cave/Lake/2 Large Rocks Terrain Set (4 Pieces Total in Brown Marbled Hard Plastic)

1 Large Lake (Blue Cardboard)

4 18" River Sections (Blue Cardboard)

2 Curved River Sections (Blue Cardboard)

4 18" Stream Sections (Blue Cardboard)

3 Curved Stream Sections (Blue Cardboard)

3 Tar Pits (Black Cardboard)

2 Large Mold Groups (PL-749) (6 Dinos, 3 in Metallic Silver, 3 in Various Colors)

1 Medium Mold Group (PL-750) (6 Dinos in Various Colors)

2 Small Mold Groups (PL-755-7) (14 Dinos in Various Colors)

1 Revised Mold Group (PL-977) (8 Dinos in Various Colors)

1 Second Series Mold Group (PL-1083) (8 Dinos/Prehistoric Mammals in Various Colors)

42 Total Dinos/Prehistoric Mammals

2 Sets of 6 Cavemen (12 Cavemen Total in Various Colors)

1 Large Campfire (Brown Hard Plastic)

2 Rafts (Brown & Black Cardboard)

1 Footbridge (Brown & Black Cardboard)

2 Sets of 4 Palm Trees & 4 Ferns (8 Total Palm Trees & Ferns in Various Colors)

1 Dead Tree & 2 Stumps (Gray)

4 Cacti (2 Large & 2 Small in Green Soft Plastic)

Booklet (Enlarged Edition) (P-1311)

Marx also did something else significant with this new Giant Playset- they included all mold groups of dinos but the colors were all mixed up. Marx had done this very sparingly with the Revised Mold Group, and with the Large Mold Group to include premium color dinos, but this set appears to be a catch-all for strange and heretofore unavailable colors (at least in playsets). In my set above you can see in the bottom right of the setup a Moschops and Styracosaurus in the very rare Metallic Green color which had previously only been available on blister cards for the Second Series Mold Group animals. Also there are three Tan dinos from the Medium Mold Group which had only been available in the desirable #3398 Time Tunnel set from 1961. There are also several Brown dinos and Gray Marbled Dinos, and a couple in a strange shade of Bluish Gray. One of the distinctive features about the #1400 is that one of the Large Mold Groups is always in Metallic Silver. This is the only Marx dinosaur set with more than one premium color dinosaur.. and this one has several, including an entire mold group!

The Prehistoric Times Giant Playset #1400 is definitely a strange conglomeration of dino playset parts, and the only one to feature Caveman Marxie on the box. The box shows a Marx Kronosaurus attacking a Marx Brontosaurus and drawing blood! Because of the box and large lake piece this set is sometimes called "the lake set". With all of the river and stream sections you could fill up a small room with a toy dinosaur diorama, if you wish. And, it all fits in the box. A weird and wonderful set with an enigmatic backstory.


Okay, now for the truth. This is actually a custom set I put together from all the best extra original Marx pieces that I had accumulated over the years of dinoing. I made up the background for the set, it's all fictitious. I drew the box and the cardboard pieces and put the set together. It's fun to create a custom background for a custom set, as long as you come clean at the end.  ;D

Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on January 02, 2015, 07:59:14 PM
This is my Prehistoric Times Giant Playset #1400 (Marx, 1963).... It features the four terrain pieces from the squarebox sets....

2 Curved River Sections (Blue Cardboard)

3 Curved Stream Sections (Blue Cardboard)

2 Sets of 6 Cavemen (12 Cavemen Total in Various Colors)

This is actually a custom set I put together from all the best extra original Marx pieces that I had accumulated over the years of dinoing. I made up the background for the set.... I drew the box and the cardboard pieces and put the set together.


I don't understand. I would have thought you'd have wanted to include Raquel Welch, Victoria Vetri and Imogen Hassall with their curved terrain features in your set.

(http://guestofaguest.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/tumblr_mfnvw70pyd1rmt3sfo1_400.jpg)

 ???
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on January 03, 2015, 12:02:42 AM
I don't understand. I would have thought you'd have wanted to include Raquel Welch, Victoria Vetri and Imogen Hassall with their curved terrain features in your set.

That would be great to put their curves and sets in my set, but it's quite beyond my scope. Finding accurately sculpted 30mm plastic figures of those prehistoric Hammer Hotties would be heavenly.  :angel:

(http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/3c/c6/9b/3cc69b1c21a1d0fb61e0636524159f14.jpg) (http://guestofaguest.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/tumblr_mfnvw70pyd1rmt3sfo1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on January 06, 2015, 04:00:45 PM
Here's another After-Marx dino playset. This is my Land Of The Dinosaurs Prehistoric Playset #4700 (Toy Street, 1992).

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/ToyStreetLOTD1_zpsdfa3c846.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/ToyStreetLOTD2_zps5d782bab.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/ToyStreetLOTD3_zps1ae87c30.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/ToyStreetLOTD4_zpsa870195e.jpg)

CONTENTS:

3 Piece Marx Recast Terrain w/4 Clips (Cave/Rock Arch/Pond in Brown Soft Plastic)

1 Marx Recast Large Mold Group (3 Dinos in Green)

1 Marx Recast Medium Mold Group (6 Dinos in Light Blue)

2 MPC Recast Small Mold Group (8 Dinos in Brown & Light Brown)

17 Dinosaurs Total

2 Sets of 6 Marx Recast Cavemen (12 Cavemen Total in Off White)

8 Recast MPC Palm Trees (Green Soft Plastic)

1 Playmat (25" X 19")

1 2-Sided Instruction Sheet

Instruction Sheet (Front):
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/ToyStreetLOTDInstructionSheet1_zps897fc87f.jpg)

Back:
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/ToyStreetLOTDInstructionSheet2_zpsa8e49627.jpg)

Toy Street only made this one dinosaur playset that I know of. They also made other genre playsets in the early '90s. The plastic is inferior to Marx plastic, and the dinosaurs are harder and more brittle. There is also a large amount of excess plastic at the mold seems. This is a set in the vein of the Marx #3398 with a recast of the same terrain pieces. The Marx Small Mold was gone by this time so Toy Street used the MPC Small Mold and included 2 sets of them, so you get the strange combination of 1 Marx Pteranodon and 2 MPC Pteranodons. The set also includes MPC palm trees instead of the better Marx palm trees. This set is inferior to original Marx sets, but is sought after by collectors now as one of the After-Marx sets.

I bought this one at Toys R Us in 1993 for $9.99. I'm glad I bought this new because these things are tough to find now complete and in nice condition. They show up on eBay every few months but the boxes are usually damaged and the contents are usually off with missing pieces and extra pieces that never came with the set (as is the case with nearly every dinosaur playset offered for sale nowadays). Even so they still sell for much more than when new. I wish I had bought a dozen of these back in '93 and just stored them away. A still sealed example would probably sell for $75-$100. A nice complete one would probably sell for $50-$75. These prices are only estimates of course, and they could go much higher to the few people willing to pay the most. The incomplete damaged ones I've seen sell at eBay auction have sold for $25 or more. You never know about the great chaos that is evilBay auctions.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on January 07, 2015, 09:29:42 AM
Here's another After-Marx dino playset. This is my Land Of The Dinosaurs Prehistoric Playset #4700 (Toy Street, 1992).

The plastic is inferior to Marx plastic, and the dinosaurs are harder and more brittle. There is also a large amount of excess plastic at the mold seams.... This set is inferior to original Marx sets....

The colours are good though!

...is sought after by collectors now as one of the After-Marx sets.

Interesting that a playset as recent as 1992 is now prized by collectors! Comics, cards and model kits from the nineties that are prized by collectors are very few and far between.

 :)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: bigbud on January 07, 2015, 10:09:15 AM
Quote
Okay, now for the truth. This is actually a custom set I put together from all the best extra original Marx pieces that I had accumulated over the years of dinoing. I made up the background for the set, it's all fictitious. I drew the box and the cardboard pieces and put the set together. It's fun to create a custom background for a custom set, as long as you come clean at the end. 

Yea.....you may have fooled some, but that box was just too fresh and clean to be from 1963. What a trickster!
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on January 07, 2015, 04:07:38 PM
Yea.....you may have fooled some, but that box was just too fresh and clean to be from 1963. What a trickster!
I figured the box would give it away to most of you guys, if not the new condition then my less than accurate lettering. I drew this thing over 10 years ago and just recently colored it. I tried to make it in the style of the old playset boxes, but any Marx playset collector could tell right away it's a custom. The main reason I fessed up at the end there is for the benefit of new collectors who might be confused by the possible existence of such a set that isn't recorded in any of the info on the history of Marx dinosaur playsets. I wasn't trying to mislead, just have a little fun.  :)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on January 07, 2015, 04:34:36 PM
Interesting that a playset as recent as 1992 is now prized by collectors! Comics, cards and model kits from the nineties that are prized by collectors are very few and far between.

 :)
It is inconsistent with other "collectible" items from that time. Just about anything in the image of the original Marx/MPC toys are desirable, even some of the recent recasts you see on eBay. Almost all of the newer dinosaur playsets are very poor quality junk made in China and similar places. Those After-Marx sets are like toy dinosaur gold compared to the new crap. Of course, I'm talking about cheap dino playsets here and not high end prehistoric figures. I have several recent figures by Safari, Schleich, and Papo which are excellent, but the cheap dinosaur playsets of decades ago (Marx, MPC) are like high art compared to the detritus they crank out in China and the like.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on January 07, 2015, 07:34:38 PM
I figured the box would give it away to most of you guys, if not the new condition then my less than accurate lettering.


It did. Partially because it reminded me of your Haunted Graveyard Playset:

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/HauntedGraveyardPlayset2014box_1_zps12cb1a14.jpg)

 ;D

I have several recent figures by Safari, Schleich, and Papo which are excellent....


Yes. I'm familiar with the Papo figures, dinosaur and non-dinosaur, and they're fabulous!

Papo Dinosaurs (http://www.nothingbutdinosaurs.com/catalog/collectibles-collector-memorabilia-collectables-dinosaur-dino/papo-realistic-dinosaur-figures-collectibles-toys-dino-replica-model.html)

(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/132/e/8/papo_dinos_collection_by_aayrick-d3g5evh.jpg)

 8)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on January 07, 2015, 09:15:14 PM
It did. Partially because it reminded me of your Haunted Graveyard Playset:

([url]http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/HauntedGraveyardPlayset2014box_1_zps12cb1a14.jpg[/url])

 ;D

Man, those pics of that Haunted Graveyard Playset are terrible. That thing looks so much better in person. I recently reposted pics of it right before I got my new camera so I'll wait for awhile before posting it again (maybe until Halloween). I've added a few things to it, also. When I do repost it you guys can actually see what it looks like for the first time.  ;)

BTW, I buy those boxes at the UPS store. Those are the closest ones I can find to the old flat playset boxes. Sure is a right beyotch trying to draw and letter on a freakin' corrugated box. Not only is it bulky and hard to get to the area you're working on for the rest of it, but you also have to deal with the corrugated ridges. It's a little slice of drawing hell.  ;D
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Mord on January 07, 2015, 09:22:34 PM
 Hey, your box art is better than that of some who actually get paid for it.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on January 07, 2015, 10:01:17 PM
Rocketship To Venus Playset (Chaos Toys, 2015) is a pulp era sci-fi set involving an exploratory expedition to the hostile jungle planet Venus.

Earth Base:
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/RTVP1_zps0c1cd56b.jpg)

On Venus:
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/RTVP2_zps81d2d335.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/RTVP3_zpsc4a80bbc.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/RTVP4_zps1a865abb.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/RTVP5_zps66840ec8.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/RTVP6_zps74c290d1.jpg)

CONTENTS:

1 USAF Venus Expedition Rocketship (Green & Yellow, Engine Lights Up/Flashes)

1 USAF Atomic Bomber Rocketship (Blue & Silver, Engine Lights Up/Flashes)

1 Venus Expedition HQ Building

1 Atomic Fuel Depot

1 Launch Control Blockhouse

1 Launch Ramp

1 Muroc Testing Area Sign

1 Mountain (Light Blue Soft Plastic)

2 Rock Arches (Light Blue Soft Plastic)

1 Bi-Level Cave (Brown & Red Hard Plastic)

1 Venusian Swamp (Neon Green w/Various Nasty Things)

1 Chaos Beast

15 Venusian Dinosaurs & Giant Mammals

4 Giant Crawlers (1 Scorpian, 1 Spider, 2 Beetles)

6 Energy Ogres (Beige Plastic)

11 Person Exploration Team (30mm Figures in Gray Soft Plastic, 4 Spacesuited Humans, 1 Android, 6 Aliens)

12 Double Venusian Jungle Trees (Tan & Green Soft Plastic)

2 Double Carnivorous Trees (Green Soft Plastic)

3 Rock Piles

1 Background Information Sheet

Rocket Engines Light Up & Flash:
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/VenusPlayset10_zps8ab35ebd.jpg)

                                                                ROCKETSHIP TO VENUS PLAYSET (Pulp Era Sci-Fi)

Earth Base: Muroc Testing Area is the secret launch base for Venus Expedition VE1. The expedition is an eleven person crew consisting of five United States Air Force personnel (four humans and one android), and six aliens working under orders from the Air Force. The aliens were scouts from various planets sent to spy on the Earth. They were captured over the last few years and mentally reconditioned by the Air Force to use their greater than human abilities of telepathy, telekinesis, heightened strength and toughness, and enhanced senses to aid the Venus Expedition in exploring and mapping Venus. Small explosives were surgically implanted in the aliens' heads to insure loyalty.

Venus Expedition Personnel: Commander: Col. Trip Travers, Doctor: Maj. Lucy Buff, Pilot: Capt. Hunt Ripper, Pilot: Capt. Crash Connors, Mechanic: TechSgt. Andy Handy (android), Jelik of Venus, Throk of Mars, Kalin of Saturn, Elikarr-Kaas of Alpha Centauri B7, Bel of Luhman16 A4, Rayz-El of Sirius B9.
The expedition will travel to Venus on two rocketships, the VE1 and the VE2. VE1 is a green and yellow rocketship which will carry most of the personnel and equipment, and is piloted by Capt. Hunt Ripper.  VE2 is a blue and silver experimental bomber with heavy weaponry including conventional 2K lb. bombs and four atomic bombs (in case things get really nasty), and is piloted by Capt. Crash Connors. The primary mission is to explore and map Venus. Secondary missions include making diplomatic relations with any civilizations of intelligent life forms, and destroying any advanced technological weaponry of any hostile groups.

Arriving on Venus: Venus is a deadly Green Hell planet with steaming jungles and swamps, as well as giant predatory animals very similar to many that existed in Earth's prehistoric  past, only usually bigger and meaner. It's constant hyper bloodletting on a grand scale, eat or be eaten. In addition to the Venusian dinosaurs and huge mammals there are poisonous insects and arachnids bigger than cars called Giant Crawlers. Also there are hulking humanoids called Energy Ogres who absorb solar energy and can briefly expel it in a deadly heat blast. The top of the food chain is the towering Chaos Beast. Only the most powerful predators or groups can challenge it. Most of the vegetation resembles palm trees, but there are also carnivorous trees and plants in abundance. And, the glowing swamps have a type of floating algae-like growth which can strip the flesh off of more vulnerable life forms in seconds. Welcome to The Bloody Jungle Planet.

                                                                       CHAOS TOYS
                                                                       Route 666
                                                                       The GREAT ABYSS

This is a custom playset conceived and put together by me. The Earth Base pieces are by Clyde Childress. The box and illustrations are my work except for the illustration in the center of the box which is a '60s sci-fi paperback cover I found the art for on the internet. Artist is unknown.

Chaos Toys name and logo are by me. The company is fictitious, created to be the producer of this playset. The company may be an ongoing thing for more custom toys in the future.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on January 07, 2015, 11:15:40 PM
Hey, your box art is better than that of some who actually get paid for it.

Box art? His playsets are better than almost any of the originals! Look at the contents of the Rocketship to Venus!

 8)

Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on January 08, 2015, 12:02:54 AM
Box art? His playsets are better than almost any of the originals! Look at the contents of the Rocketship to Venus!

 8)
Thanks, Hep. I'm glad you enjoy them.  :)

Hey, your box art is better than that of some who actually get paid for it.
Thank you, Mord.  :)

Most playset art is styled to appeal to children (and some Monsterkids  ;D), so I try to emulate that style for my own box art.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on January 08, 2015, 12:53:04 AM
Some further info on the Rocketship To Venus Playset:
Jelik of Venus is a Venusian savage captured by a Martian raiding party. Instead of killing him the Martians used him in a Martian scouting party to Earth since he has mutant telepathic ability. After he was captured by the Air Force, along with Throk of Mars, he was reconditioned to serve the United States. He could advise USAF Intelligence about local flora, fauna, and mineral content, in the area in which his tribe lived, but he doesn't know much about Venus as a whole except for a few tribal legends.

Some thoughts on the stereotypical sci-fi characters in the playset, and the what if casting of a Rocketship To Venus '50s sci-fi film:

Craig Stevens as Col. Trip Travers (Cool commander with a great presence, but also a guilty secret past involving the accidental bombing of a Chinese village in World War II. He also has a fear of large bugs...OOPS, watch out for those Giant Crawlers on Venus!)

Julie Adams as Maj. Lucy Buff (Consummate pro until she has a couple of drinks, then watch out! Can you say nymphomaniac?)

John Agar as Capt. Hunt Ripper (Crack pilot, nice guy, and war hero who's secretly in love with Lucy Buff.)

Peter Graves as Capt. Crash Connors (Wise cracking upstart who is an excellent pilot in spite of being a showoff. And, guess what, he's got a crush on Dr. Lucy Buff (who doesn't?)).

Lon Chaney Jr. as TSgt. Andy Handy, the android (Loyal to his superiors, but loves to fight. Excellent mechanic with training in many other skills thanks to his advanced computer brain. He still acts like a stubborn sergeant, though. His android body is much stronger and tougher than a normal human's.)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on January 08, 2015, 09:14:55 AM
CONTENTS:

1 USAF Venus Expedition Rocketship (Green & Yellow, Engine Lights Up/Flashes)

1 USAF Atomic Bomber Rocketship (Blue & Silver, Engine Lights Up/Flashes)

1 Venus Expedition HQ Building

1 Atomic Fuel Depot

1 Launch Control Blockhouse

1 Launch Ramp

1 Muroc Testing Area Sign

What did you use for those pieces? Are the rocketships tinplate toys from the early fifties?

 ???

Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on January 08, 2015, 02:03:22 PM
What did you use for those pieces? Are the rocketships tinplate toys from the early fifties?

 ???

They're custom wooden models. The same guy made them as made the Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea custom playset which I posted a few days ago.

Here's the eBay link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/301450934851?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/301450934851?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

I saw that he had a cool model set based on a '50s style Venus expedition so I decided to buy them and turn it into a full blown playset with dinosaurs, monsters, and the whole bit. Like we were discussing before, too bad 30mm amazons were never made by anyone. They would have been a perfect addition. I could have used painted 25mm metal gaming miniatures, but those just don't seem appropriate for a Monsterkid style playset, and they would have been a little too short. "Short" and "amazon" don't mix well.

(http://www.filmjunk.com/images/weblog/2009/03/barbarianqueen.jpg)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on January 18, 2015, 09:53:00 AM
This is one of my squarebox sets, Prehistoric Times #3394 (Marx, 1959). My parents bought me one of these at a small Mom&Pop strip mall hobby shop in Athens, Ga. back in 1963 when I was 4 years of age.

([url]http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MarxPT3394_zps787bf303.jpg[/url])


A pic of my #3390.

([url]http://imageshack.us/a/img818/3567/mdw8.jpg[/url])


One of the things I like the most about those Marx playsets from the late fifties/early sixties is that the boxes absolutely scream baby boomer toy goodness from the days when getting anything at all from the toy department was an absolute delight.

 8)



Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: jimm on January 18, 2015, 10:38:23 AM
You still have a lot of fun with these playsets HH that's what its all about :-)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on January 18, 2015, 01:27:14 PM
One of the things I like the most about those Marx playsets from the late fifties/early sixties is that the boxes absolutely scream baby boomer toy goodness from the days when getting anything at all from the toy department was an absolute delight.

 8)
So true about the classic baby boomer look, Hep. Actually, I need to repost both of those sets with better pics now that I have a better camera. When I see how bad those old pics were it makes me want to repost everything I shot pictures of with the old cheap camera. Maybe I'll eventually get around to all that.

Also, I have another Marx longbox set (#3392), and another Marx squarebox set (#3388) that I'll be posting at some point, as well as some other dino sets and items I haven't posted yet. I wish another dino enthusiast would join in and post their stuff. That guy who said he wrote a book would have been able to post some really nice stuff. Too bad he just showed up briefly to advertise the book.

You still have a lot of fun with these playsets HH that's what its all about :-)
Yeah, these dino toys were a huge part of being a kid for me, jimm. I was really excited when I discovered eBay a few years ago and found that I could reconstruct the original sets from original parts bought from eBay listings. It was a little difficult to accumulate the necessary knowledge to properly reconstruct them since there isn't a great deal of info easily available. One of the reasons I painstakingly list each set with pics and contents lists is because I know there is someone out there who loves this stuff like I do and eventually they will find this info and be happy to finally know how to accurately reconstruct some of their favorite toys. When you buy playsets off eBay they are incomplete about 99.9 % of the time, and usually contain parts that didn't even come with that set when new. Someone is going to find this info I've posted at some point and it will make their day.  :)

And then there are the custom playsets I post. Those are just for fun.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on January 19, 2015, 03:05:10 PM
The One Million BC set did not come with a playmat or a color booklet, however, it MAY have had a version of the booklet that was produced for only a short time around 1974, after Quaker had taken over Marx. It looked the same as the earlier "Revised Edition" booklet from the #3398 set from '71, except that it had a new "Marx Toys" logo, and listed the Stamford, CT address (home of Quaker) rather than the NY address. It had 12 cavemen and 29 dinos, and half of the Palm Tree Group (two trees and two ferns). All three of the Mountain Sets only had a half Palm Tree Group.

The next year, Marx came out with the Prehistoric Mountain set, which added the playmat, the color booklet, and upped the cavemen count to 18. In 1977, the Giant Prehistoric Mountain (with gray mountain pieces) came out. It also had the playmat & color booklet, but the caveman count dropped back to 12, and also the dinosaur count dropped to 22 from 29 (the Small Mold Group was not in this set).

Interesting that the Giant Prehistoric Mountain set was not as big/elaborate as the ordinary Prehistoric Mountain set.

 :o
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on January 19, 2015, 07:16:29 PM
Interesting that the Giant Prehistoric Mountain set was not as big/elaborate as the ordinary Prehistoric Mountain set.

 :o
I believe it was a simple case of hype to add "Giant" to the name of the playset. It was the same five piece mountain setup that was in the two earlier Marx prehistoric mountain sets, which was IMO the absolute best terrain ever sold with a playset. The Comanche Pass mountain was very similar but that had shorter land bridges and a boulder instead of the walking bridge as well as a dry "pass" instead of the nice painted river in the prehistoric mountain terrain.

I may be mistaken here but to my understanding Marx had changed hands from Quaker Oats to a British company called Dunbee-Combex sometime between the 1975 Prehistoric Mountain and the 1977 Giant Prehistoric Mountain. The new owners revamped the old playsets... Prehistoric Mountain became Giant Prehistoric Mountain and the mountain setup was molded in gray plastic instead of the previous yellow/brown, the #3398 became the new #4208 with fewer pieces and the 3-piece terrain in gray instead of the previous brown as well as the dinos in blue, yellow, and brown instead of mint green and light gray. We also saw those small "Storage Box" sets right at the end before Marx went out of business in 1979.

Some of the last Marx playsets are the hardest to find now, especially that Giant Prehistoric Mountain set from 1977 with the gray mountain setup. I've only seen two of those on eBay in the last 14 years with both the correct box and the complete gray mountain setup. I bought the one with the decent box back around 2003/2004. The other one I saw had a badly damaged box. One Million BC sets and Prehistoric Mountain sets seem to be selling for around $500 for nice near-complete examples. There seems to be only about 10% as many Giant Prehistoric Mountain sets as there are those other two. Who knows what fair market value might be on one if all this were well known and well traded like some other collectibles. As it is the evilBay chaos rules and something super rare might pop up and sell for a small percentage of what logic should dictate. That's part of the fun, and most of the reason why I've accumulated my dino collection so inexpensively. I've been in the eBay trenches buying up dino playset stuff since 2001. It's the same principle with any of this stuff, the sooner you got started and the more you bought the better collection you have now. You wait a few years and pay much more. Time is the collector's enemy.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Wicked Lester on February 07, 2015, 01:31:50 PM
TERROR IN the WOODS

A group of trappers/woodsman with their Indian companions are suddenly thrown into terror and turmoil as a young but deadly Tyrannosaur chases it's frantic prey into their camp. In seconds one of the men is snatched up in the powerful jaws. The shocked men spring into action as the frightened Raptor snaps at and tries to blow through the men in it's attempt to flee it's ravenous pursuer and the battle is on. Who will live and who will die? Who will still be standing when this is over?









(http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp47/WickedLester666/20150207_115239_zpsac90fb76.jpg)

(http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp47/WickedLester666/20150207_115313_zps31bcb721.jpg)

(http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp47/WickedLester666/20150207_115426_zpscfa20617.jpg)

(http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp47/WickedLester666/20150207_115253_zps36521d7c.jpg)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Mord on February 08, 2015, 08:28:05 PM
 All you need are some zombies for historical accuracy.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Wicked Lester on February 08, 2015, 10:10:18 PM
All you need are some zombies for historical accuracy.

I'm working on that . However these guys are Gwangi's predecessors by 200 years so......  ;)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Mord on February 08, 2015, 10:14:21 PM
I'm working on that . However these guys are Gwangi's predecessors by 200 years so......  ;)
Close enough.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on April 01, 2015, 07:59:52 PM
TERROR IN the WOODS

A group of trappers/woodsman with their Indian companions are suddenly thrown into terror and turmoil as a young but deadly Tyrannosaur chases it's frantic prey into their camp. In seconds one of the men is snatched up in the powerful jaws. The shocked men spring into action as the frightened Raptor snaps at and tries to blow through the men in it's attempt to flee it's ravenous pursuer and the battle is on. Who will live and who will die? Who will still be standing when this is over?

([url]http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp47/WickedLester666/20150207_115239_zpsac90fb76.jpg[/url])


Pretty good Gwangi inspired diorama, WL. My money's on the T-Rex.  ;)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on June 17, 2015, 02:38:45 PM
Got these today via evilBay. They are cast iron or pewter, and are in the likeness of the small plastic Ajax dino figures from the '60s. I checked my dino sources and can't find out anything about them yet.

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MetalAjaxDinos_zpso4ixzjzb.jpg)

The small Ajax dinos have been repopped (plastic) over the years and sold by Joy Toy and Tootsietoy.

(http://www.angelfire.com/biz/toysoldierhq/zajaxdino2aa.jpg)

Ajax also made the larger hollow toothy dinos that most collectors called "Dime Store Dinosaurs" for years. These have been reproduced over the years as well.

(http://www.angelfire.com/biz/toysoldierhq/zajaxbigdinos.jpg)

I sent the seller a message inquiring about any info regarding the metal dinos and the reply was that they came from an original collection from an owner who was a child in the '60s. That was all they knew. These things are pretty cool, and heavy, too. I'm glad to add them to my collection. I still hope to get some info on them at some point.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on July 02, 2015, 01:46:54 PM
I finally scored a couple of SDC carded examples, and in nice condition as well. The Spaulding Dinosaur Company, Inc. produced four different carded dino sets of four each in the early 1980s. These consisted of 8 Marx recasts (from the Marx PL-977 Revised Mold Group in waxy green plastic) and 8 MPC recasts (from the MPC Second Series Monsters and Mammals mold(s) in pastel colored plastic). SDC only produced the dinos for 2 years, then sold the molds to an individual from Texas. This would be the last AfterMarx company to produce dinos using the Marx PL-977 Revised Mold Group mold. SDC dinos were either sold, or offered as premiums, by Sinclair gas stations in the '80s (maybe regionally, which might explain their scarcity). I've been checking eBay with saved searches for 14 years and these are the first SDC MOC examples I've seen for sale. They were only $19.99 each and I hit the "BUY" button like a gunfighter slappin' leather.  ;D I'm just glad these weren't listed as an auction. These things must be far scarcer than original carded Marx and MPC dinos from the '60s because I've seen several of those offered for sale over the years (usually at very expensive prices). Anyway, I'm pleased to finally add some SDC product to my toy dinosaur collection.

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/SDCdinosMOC1_zps3bglvafn.jpg)

The card on the left features Marx recasts from the Revised Mold Group. The card on the right features MPC recasts for the Diatryma, Moschops, Wooly Mammoth, and Styracosaurus, from the MPC Second Series Monsters and Mammals mold(s).
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on July 02, 2015, 01:57:48 PM
Is Sinclair Oil Corp. mentioned anywhere on the cards?

 ???

Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on July 02, 2015, 02:05:54 PM
Is Sinclair Oil Corp. mentioned anywhere on the cards?

 ???

No. Info is very scarce on SDC. I got mine here: http://www.dinosaur-toys-collectors-guide.com/marx-playset-monograph-Part-2.html (http://www.dinosaur-toys-collectors-guide.com/marx-playset-monograph-Part-2.html)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on July 16, 2015, 04:12:51 PM
I dug out an old box full of dino items I originally got as a kid. It contained some of the 2nd string toy dinos that I didn't feel worthy to be stored with my Marx, MPC, and AfterMarx sets and pieces. I've found that in recent years I've come to value this "grade B" stuff much more than I used to, and I was very glad to find the box it was stored in. I also found some dino books, stamps, and other dino related items I've had from kiddom to present.

First up is my View Master set. I picked this up probably in the late '60s.

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/ViewMasterDinos_zps2cbdfuda.jpg)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on July 16, 2015, 04:26:15 PM
Next is my Remote Control Triceratops sold through the Sears Wishbook around 1970. Worthpoint info states that it was made by a small Japanese company called Toytown, and only sold through the Sears Wishbooks here in the States. I also had the Tyrannosaurus but it was lost in the dino wars of kiddom. The trike doesn't work anymore, sadly. Just a relic of days gone by, albeit a cool one to Dinoboomers.

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/SearsTriceratops_zpsl52ilsak.jpg)

Here is an ad for he and his companions from the 1971 Sears Wishbook:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7021/6416506281_f6c1c88fc9_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on July 16, 2015, 04:34:31 PM
Here are my original Ajax dinos from the '60s (top row, with Ajax mini Triceratops), along with a set of the Hong Kong Ajax knockoffs with painted eyes (middle row), and dupes (bottom row).

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/AjaxDinos_zpsitcgto5l.jpg)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on July 16, 2015, 04:42:50 PM
My Timmee dinos from the '60s. The Timmee minis are below the cavemen. Sinclair used the minis in their little gas station premium bags back in the '60s and '70s. Timmee were the cheapest of the cheap, but still hold a place in the hearts of many Dinoboomers.

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/Timmee60sDinos_zpsi5h3ecwb.jpg)

Timmee changed the look of their dinos and cavemen in the '80s. I like the original ones better.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on July 16, 2015, 04:49:56 PM
Here are my Lido dinos. The top row contains three of the prehistoric mammals and three of the original Nabisco issues in unusual colors. Middle row contains all ten of the Nabisco issues given as premiums in boxes of Fritos bags in the late '60s (I ate a lotta Fritos!). Bottom row contains more recent Lido repops.

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/LidoDinos_zps8dfmjzfy.jpg)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on July 16, 2015, 05:04:03 PM
My cheap China or Hong Kong MPC knockoffs (most are hollow) from the '60s/'70s. The top row has the six larger ones that probably came on a blister card, and below them are the very small ones which probably came in a bag w/header card (interesting that the small trees and ferns are Marx knockoffs).

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MPCHollowKnockoffDinos_zpsggujbo5r.jpg)

These were practically throwaway items when I was a dinokid. I knew Marx and MPC were the real deal. In recent years more collectors value these dino figures as worth collecting, in much the same way that '70s monster comics were considered worthless back then and trashed in quarter boxes but are highly valued today. These early dino knockoffs are hard to find nowadays. They occasionally turn up in piles-o-dinos on evilBay, but you have to know what to look for.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Mord on July 16, 2015, 05:07:33 PM
Here are my Lido dinos. The top row contains three of the prehistoric mammals and three of the original Nabisco issues in unusual colors. Middle row contains all ten of the Nabisco issues given as premiums in boxes of Fritos bags in the late '60s (I ate a lotta Fritos!). Bottom row contains more recent Lido repops.

I lived for those when I was a kid. I ate so many Fritos (for the dinos) & took so many bubble baths (for the Soakys), I had to be the fattest, cleanest kid in town.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on July 16, 2015, 05:14:50 PM
My cheapo China Marx knockoff dinos and cavemen from the '80s. Interesting that these inferior figures were painted (poorly) whereas real Marx dinos and quality AfterMarx figures were unpainted. These things were all over the place in Wal-Mart and K-mart, and they still turn up in cheapass rack offerings. God, I loathe those silly huge fingers on the Trachodon and T-Rex.

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MarxChinaKnockoffDinos_zpsi1x6w4kb.jpg)

Even early examples of these things from the '80s are now being collected, and in some cases sell for as much as original Marx dinos. If you have collected this stuff for years you can place the decade of the knockoff by the paint.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on July 16, 2015, 05:23:46 PM
These are my cheap (and weird) dinos and monsters sold through K-mart in the late '70s/early '80s. Legend has it that some of the stranger critters inspired Gygax and the TSR guys to create many of the classic Dungeons & Dragons monsters such as the Rust Monster and Bulette (Land Shark). Of course it may have been the other way around and these things were knocked out after the first Monster Manual came out. Anyway, several evilBay sellers are asking stupid money for some of these figures because of the D&D connection. I checked the packaging for maker and it just says "Made in Hong Kong for K-mart".

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/DampDdinos_zpsrqw6s4px.jpg)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on July 16, 2015, 05:29:21 PM
Some of my old dino books, flash cards, and a stamp album (mostly from the '60s). These were in a bag since they were considered too beat up to put in the bookshelf. Still glad they turned up- brought back some cool memories.

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MyOldDinoBooks_zpscyeorkyd.jpg)

I have a high grade copy of that How And Why Prehistoric Mammals book in with my monster mag collection.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on July 16, 2015, 05:32:33 PM
My Primal Rage action figures from 1996.

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/PrimalRageDinos_zpslqccvoqr.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pf8mnKwtBI&feature=player_detailpage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pf8mnKwtBI&feature=player_detailpage)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: RICKH on July 16, 2015, 11:24:30 PM
Wow! Great collection.  I remember having the How and Why book.  Also had the K-Mart weird creatures as well. I didn't know about the D&D connection.  Thanks for the pics and info!
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on July 17, 2015, 08:40:14 AM
I dug out an old box full of dino items I originally got as a kid.

Cool! In many ways that's better than acquiring a new item you don't have!

It contained some of the 2nd string toy dinos that I didn't feel worthy to be stored with my Marx, MPC, and AfterMarx sets and pieces. I've found that in recent years I've come to value this "grade B" stuff much more than I used to....

That's because the grade B stuff is still mega cool yet over exposure hasn't made it old hat.

 8)

 
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on July 17, 2015, 11:07:49 AM
Thanks, fellas. I'm glad you like the old dino stuff.

I still have several big playsets to post, and I'm picking up Dinokid odds and ends all the time via eBay. I find that going through my collection, displaying it, and photographing it, has increased my enjoyment of it. And, if a few people dig seeing this stuff then that's just a bonus.  :)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on July 17, 2015, 11:45:33 AM
Even though I already have most of this stuff I still monitor eBay with saved searches mostly for fun (after 14 years it's an enjoyable habit). And, I usually don't bring attention to active listings because someone waiting to pounce might get a little bent...but occasionally a well-meaning heads-up is in order. For the few reading this who need a Marx Mountain Set and might be interested in dropping big bucks on a quality item:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/131558560105?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/131558560105?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

I'm not affiliated with the seller and have no Eohippus in this race. This is one of the nicest Mountain Sets I've seen listed in awhile. It's missing a couple of common pieces and has extra dinos. The big draw is having a pretty nice box, color booklet, and instruction sheet. If I were buying this I wouldn't even let it continue at auction- just slam that BIN and be done. I estimate that a truly complete Marx Prehistoric Mountain #3414 playset in nice condition with a nice box should sell for around $500-$600 now judging from what bits and pieces have sold for in the past. This is a good deal.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on July 17, 2015, 12:37:35 PM
Picked up these Ajax repops very cheaply off eBay.

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/AjaxRepopDinosMIP_zpsmzrjvu4s.jpg)

The header card says "Made in China" and distributed by "Kole Imports- Carson Ca.".

I wish Wal-Mart and similar stores in my area sold repops of classic dino toys. My Wal-Mart has some of those 4th or 5th generation blister carded repops with the goofy long fingers and crappy looking foliage and rock pieces, but those look so wretched I'm not interested even though I tend to be a completest.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on July 23, 2015, 10:31:52 AM
My Timmee dinos from the '60s. The Timmee minis are below the cavemen. Sinclair used the minis in their little gas station premium bags back in the '60s and '70s. Timmee were the cheapest of the cheap, but still hold a place in the hearts of many Dinoboomers.

([url]http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/Timmee60sDinos_zpsi5h3ecwb.jpg[/url])

Timmee changed the look of their dinos and cavemen in the '80s. I like the original ones better.


Were the Timmee dinosaurs sold in bunches as rack toys?

Sinclair used the minis in their little gas station premium bags back in the '60s and '70s.


Any Sinclair premium is beyond cool in my book! Do you have any of the Sinclair dinos still in the premium bags?

 ???

Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on July 23, 2015, 10:38:28 AM
Here are my original Ajax dinos from the '60s (top row, with Ajax mini Triceratops), along with a set of the Hong Kong Ajax knockoffs with painted eyes (middle row), and dupes (bottom row).

([url]http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/AjaxDinos_zpsitcgto5l.jpg[/url])


Were the Ajax originally sold in bunches as rack toys? Are the painted eyes the only way you can tell a Hong Kong knockoff from an Ajax original?

Here are my Lido dinos. The top row contains three of the prehistoric mammals and three of the original Nabisco issues in unusual colors. Middle row contains all ten of the Nabisco issues given as premiums in boxes of Fritos bags in the late '60s . Bottom row contains more recent Lido repops.

([url]http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/LidoDinos_zps8dfmjzfy.jpg[/url])


How do you tell the ones that were Nabisco premiums from the Frito premiums from the more recent repops?

 ???

I ate a lotta Fritos!


I'd be eating a lot of Fritos (or Nabisco cereals) today if they still included Lido dinosaurs!

 ;)

 
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on July 23, 2015, 10:40:49 AM
I find that going through my collection, displaying it, and photographing it, has increased my enjoyment of it.

Very true! I've found that as well.

 :)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on July 23, 2015, 11:27:30 AM
Were the Timmee dinosaurs sold in bunches as rack toys?

Any Sinclair premium is beyond cool in my book! Do you have any of the Sinclair dinos still in the premium bags?
Yes, the Timmees were just cheap rack toys sold in bags with header card back in the '60s. In the '80s Timmee made a lame answer to the Marx Mountain Sets with their own little Dinosaur Mountain playset.

I do have a Sinclair premium bag with Timmee minis. Those are still very common and turn up on eBay for around $10. They must have given away a crap-ton of 'em back in the Dinoboomer '60s.

I'll try to post some of my Sinclair items soon.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on July 23, 2015, 11:37:38 AM
Were the Ajax original sold in bunches as rack toys? Are the painted eyes the only way you can tell a Hong Kong knockoff from an Ajax original?
Yes, they were just cheap rack toys usually sold in bag w/header and sometimes on blister-card. Really everything short of dino playsets were cheap rack toys. The highly coveted Marx and MPC carded sets were just rack toys back in the day and sold for around a buck.

The Hong Kong Ajax knockoffs in the pic are hollow as well as having painted eyes. I vaguely remember buying those through a Dinokid haze in probably around 1963/1964, and it seems like they were blister-carded. May be off base, but that's what my inner Dinokid is telling me.  ;D
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on July 23, 2015, 11:56:06 AM
How do you tell the ones that were Nabisco premiums from the Frito premiums from the more recent repops?

The plastic stayed consistent so the only way to tell is by color. The original 10 Lido Nabisco premiums from the '50s given away in Rice Honeys and Wheat Honeys are in different colors and are often marbled or swirled. The 8 Prehistoric Beasts given that way are silver (see 1st three in photo). The  Lido Fritos premiums from the '60s are usually in those brownish/grayish shades, but sometimes black or white (see 2 in top row of photo). They were sometimes marbled as well. The Tootsietoy repops from later years are in bright colors and brown (see bottom row of photo).

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/LidoDinos_zps8dfmjzfy.jpg)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on July 23, 2015, 01:45:46 PM
The plastic stayed consistent so the only way to tell is by color. The original 10 Lido Nabisco premiums from the '50s given away in Rice Honeys and Wheat Honeys are in different colors and are often marbled or swirled. The 8 Prehistoric Beasts given that way are silver (see 1st three in photo). The  Lido Fritos premiums from the '60s are usually in those brownish/grayish shades, but sometimes black or white (see 2 in top row of photo). They were sometimes marbled as well.

So very cool!

 8)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: japfeif on July 25, 2015, 12:15:35 PM
Finally getting around to posting some of my Marx and MPC dinosaur sets (along with some knock-offs like Superior, Toy Street, SDC, etc.). Sorry about the not-too-professional pics and the crowded set-up!

(http://i.imgur.com/8Dod8dj.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/KCGNDju.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/lqkVw4H.jpg)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: japfeif on July 25, 2015, 12:34:39 PM
By the way, some months ago I posted some messages promoting my upcoming book "Dinosaur Playsets", which focuses primarily on the Marx & MPC prehistoric sets, as well as covering in depth the figures & sets by other companies that produced knock-off sets or similar sets, such as Toy Street, Winneco, SDC, Superior, and the like. I have gotten quite a few inquiries concerning the completion & availability of the book. As an update, I am happy to report that the book is now at the publishers and (fingers crossed) should be available this fall, barring any unforeseen circumstances (which unfortunately I have found to be all too common!!).  Sorry for the lack of updates or info in the past months, there have been several setbacks that, while not critically serious, proved VERY time-consuming!

Thanks all! I will give more updates as availablity time gets closer for anyone interested in the book!
Jeff

(http://i.imgur.com/BbvdpKEl.jpg)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on July 25, 2015, 05:38:05 PM
Did you incorporate the suggestions from earlier in this thread in your book?

 ???
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on July 26, 2015, 02:43:38 AM
Thanks all! I will give more updates as availablity time gets closer for anyone interested in the book!
([url]http://i.imgur.com/BbvdpKEl.jpg[/url])

I hope the book gets released and it lives up to expectations. I suspect that the number of serious dino toy collectors is relatively small compared to monster and superhero toy collectors, but the few of us there are have been waiting on a good publication of this type for several years.

Also, hopefully it offers good value for the cost. Niche market books of this type are often short on content and overly expensive. I hope this one delivers.

It would be nice if it makes it to Amazon and offers up some sample pages to check out.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: japfeif on July 26, 2015, 10:15:46 PM
Did you incorporate the suggestions from earlier in this thread in your book?

 ???

Actually yes I did. There was one suggestion to have a comparison of the different versions of the Marx booklets, and I added a section on just that! A side-by-side comparison of the front and back covers of each! I had included pics of the front covers of each booklet in the text of the book, in their chronological order, but it was more of an "in passing" thing and did not incorporate the back covers. I hadn't thought to do an actual front-and-back cover comparison till it was suggested here. I appreciate any suggestions many thanks!
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: japfeif on July 26, 2015, 10:25:34 PM
I hope the book gets released and it lives up to expectations. I suspect that the number of serious dino toy collectors is relatively small compared to monster and superhero toy collectors, but the few of us there are have been waiting on a good publication of this type for several years.

Also, hopefully it offers good value for the cost. Niche market books of this type are often short on content and overly expensive. I hope this one delivers.

It would be nice if it makes it to Amazon and offers up some sample pages to check out.

It will certainly be available on Amazon, as well as Barnes & Noble and a few others, and the AuthorHouse website. As to the final retail cost, well that is still in negotiation , but I assure everyone that keeping the cost down has been my first & foremost concern. I have found that the author of a book does not set the retail price, the publishers do, and it's of course based on printing costs & all that. The vast amount of pictures (around 195 I believe) and the fact that all are in full color makes it a fairly laborious and expensive undertaking for the publishers, and I have gone to great lengths to keep the cost affordable. I have made it clear to them that no matter how good or informative or one-of-a-kind a book is, if it's out-of-financial reach for the average person, no one will buy it, simple as that. Not to get bogged down in details, but I even paid out of my pocket to be on a publishing plan to allow me to have a say in setting the cost, to a degree. They will not allow me to go lower than the cost for them to print it & publish it obviously, but I can go down as far as that point, even if it means my royalties per book go down, which I accepted. I did not write this book to make money, but rather to get the info out there to interested collectors, and I can assure everyone that the final retail cost will be absolutely as low as possible.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: japfeif on July 26, 2015, 10:57:40 PM
Here are a few sample pages of the book if anyone is interested, to give an idea of the format and stuff

(http://i.imgur.com/JDFRnY2l.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/htUd5Vtl.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/HFeSdWgl.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/EUd3AjLl.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/QWZCTQGl.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/mvNN9W5l.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/JAN2si9l.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/HdKqlMml.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/IyqNdMbl.jpg)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on July 27, 2015, 02:22:35 PM
Looks good. Best of luck with your book.

I have most of this stuff, but you cover some of the rarer items that I never got the chance to buy.

If the price is near reasonable I will definitely be picking up a copy. I hope it sees the light of day finally after all of these delays.

Oh, and you could join in on this thread as a collector and post some of your stuff set up, discuss how you acquired some of the items, talk about the dino toy collectors' market, etc. I feel like a voice in the wilderness sometimes, and it would be nice to have another dino collector join in.

If you know of any other message boards/podcasts/whatever which discuss dino toys please post a link. I've done repeated Google searches over the years and haven't found anything related that stays anywhere near active. That's why I started this thread on this monster message board. Dinoboomer toys are closely related to monster toys, and at least there is some traffic on here (just not much for dinosaur toys).
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on August 13, 2015, 02:54:48 PM
I've been working on my dino collection of late. Here are my Lido/Nabisco dinos. At the top are all 10 of the Fritos premiums from the late '60s. In the middle are all 8 of the Prehistoric Beasts given away in Rice Honeys and Wheat Honeys around 1960. The marbled green ones at the bottom are all 10 of the dino premiums given away in those cereals in the late '50s. The box at the bottom is the original mailing box for the green dinos.

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/LidoDinos2_zpslcdwxvsi.jpg)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Mord on August 13, 2015, 02:59:13 PM
 Helluva collection. Love those dinos. I can't believe you got the shipping box.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on August 13, 2015, 03:07:51 PM
My large toothy Ajax collection, all 6. These dinos are scientifically ridiculous but megacool to Dinoboomers back when dinosaurs weren't just prehistoric animals... they were MONSTERS by god!  :laugh:

The T-Rex seems to have the remnants of a price printed on his side. I think it says 10 cents. A dime bought some coolness back in the day.  8)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/AjaxLargeampLindeDinos_zpsjkx3yrtt.jpg)

At the bottom are a couple of scarce Linde dinos. They are 1950s premiums from Austria. I love the exaggerated Triceratops' horns.  :)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on August 13, 2015, 09:20:40 PM
I've been working on my dino collection of late. Here are my Lido/Nabisco dinos. At the top are all 10 of the Fritos premiums from the late '60s. In the middle are all 8 of the Prehistoric Beasts given away in Rice Honeys and Wheat Honeys around 1960. The marbled green ones at the bottom are all 10 of the dino premiums given away in those cereals in the late '50s. The box at the bottom is the original mailing box for the green dinos.

My large toothy Ajax collection, all 6. These dinos are scientifically ridiculous but megacool to Dinoboomers back when dinosaurs weren't just prehistoric animals... they were MONSTERS by god!

Oh man! Having complete sets of all those dinos including premium giveaways plus the shipping box is just too awesome!

 8)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on August 13, 2015, 09:54:42 PM
Oh man! Having complete sets of all those dinos including premium giveaways plus the shipping box is just too awesome!

 8)
Thanks, Hep.

I remember buying those large hollow Ajax dinos in dime stores (especially Lays) back in the early/mid '60s for 10 cents each. I still have some of my original ones but the ravages of the Dinokid wars took their toll and I had to replace them with nice examples off fleaBay. A few years ago those things had almost no collector value, but now they seem to sell regularly for $5-$10 each, or more, for nice examples. The Stegosaurus in particular is very hard to find undamaged. Some of those backplates are almost always broken off. The Tyrannosaurus also seems a bit harder to find in nice condition. Those things are iconic to Dinoboomers. They were repopped a few years ago by Tootsietoy, and it's very difficult, sometimes impossible, to tell the difference between the original Ajax issues and the Tootsietoy reissues. Still, people pursue them and treat them about the same. As far as I know they haven't been repopped since the '90s. I have no idea where the molds are now, probably doorstops in Mexico.

Collectors seem to be seriously on the hunt for the Lido Nabisco dinos. A seller on eBay has been selling complete sets for around $70-$80. I had all of the Fritos premiums from my youth but I had to hunt down the original 1950s issues and the Prehistoric Beasts. The Beasts seem to be the most scarce and, I think, the coolest. But, I do love the marbling on the original green dinos. It reminds me of the marbling on premium Marx dinos. They strike me as little gems, sort of like monster flicker rings. I already had the green Stego from a previous fleaBay deal, and I picked up the other 9 and the shipping box in an auction listing them as Sinclair dinos. I wrote to the seller and asked why they thought they were from Sinclair, and was told the person they were selling them for told them that. I knew what they were and ended up getting them for $28. You just have to know about what you're hunting and be patient. It also helps to search related categories for wrongly identified items. Since I also collect Sinclair stuff I fell on that listing by accident.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Sean on August 13, 2015, 11:32:17 PM
This thread is for dinosaur playsets or pieces, or pretty much anything having to do with dinosaur toys. I'll start us off with one of my favorite dino playsets.

Marx Prehistoric Mountain Playset #3414 (1975)

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In the '70s Marx "went vertical" with three of their playsets: Comanche Pass (western), Navarone Mountain (war), and One Million B.C. (dinosaur, 1974). This playset came out in 1975 to replace the One Million B.C. set with identical contents but a different box (sorry, no Raquel Welch figure in the One Million B.C. set). Shown above is the playset, instruction sheet, color booklet, postcard to be returned with customer info/evaluation, and photo box. The One Million B.C. box was drawn in bold simplistic lines as most of the older Marx playset boxes were.

#3414 contents:
29 Prehistoric Animals: 1 PL-750 Medium Mold Group(6), 1 PL-755 Small Mold Group(7), 1 PL-977 Revised Mold Group( 8 ), 1 PL-1083 Second Series Mold Group( 8 ), all in the shiny "Heritage" type plastic (lead paint free). (note: most collectors prefer the older lead paint based plastic for the individuality and variety it gave to the dinosaurs....and it had "that" smell that assailed your olfactory sense and took you back to when you were a kid)
18 Cavemen in 6 poses
5 Piece Mountain including Land Bridge and Walking Bridge
5 Metal Screws & Nuts for Mountain Assembly
4 Palm Trees with 7 Fronds & 4 Ferns with 4 Bases
Playmat
Instruction Sheet for Mountain Assembly
Color Booklet
Postcard for customer info/evaluation
Photo Box (The box is 26" tall. The ones that survived usually have extensive damage.)


I had something very similar as a kid.  I loved it.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on August 14, 2015, 08:08:07 AM
I remember buying those large hollow Ajax dinos in dime stores (especially Lays) back in the early/mid '60s for 10 cents each.

Lays was a dime store like Woolworth or Kresge in your neck of the woods?

...I picked up the other 9 and the shipping box in an auction listing them as Sinclair dinos. I wrote to the seller and asked why they thought they were from Sinclair, and was told the person they were selling them for told them that. I knew what they were and ended up getting them for $28. You just have to know about what you're hunting and be patient. It also helps to search related categories for wrongly identified items. Since I also collect Sinclair stuff I fell on that listing by accident.

Oh man, great score! I love premium giveaways of all kinds, but ones that came in chip bags get the edge over service station giveaways.

 8)

Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Wich2 on August 14, 2015, 10:09:42 AM
The Lido/Nabiscos are one of my most beloved little toys from kidhood!

I looked forward to the Fritos multi-packs for a long time, till I had several that I wanted. Still have the well-playworn originals, my fave probably being the pinkish-gray marbled Allosaurus.

-Craig
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on August 14, 2015, 03:44:56 PM
Lays was a dime store like Woolworth or Kresge in your neck of the woods?

Oh man, great score! I love premium giveaways of all kinds, but ones that came in chip bags get the edge over service station giveaways.

 8)
Yes, we had a Lays dime store on the main street in Cleveland, TN for several years. A block down there was a Woolworth. And Kresge and Coles drugstore was at the Village shopping center (along with Hobby Mart & Camera Center which had 8mm films and movie posters). I was at those stores as much as possible buying toy monsters and dinos from about age 6 (1965). Then, a little later it was G.I.Joes, Captain Action, model cars and tanks, and Hot Wheels. I sold most of that later stuff over the years and I'm back to collecting monsters and dinos. The wheel turns 'round...
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on August 19, 2015, 03:05:11 PM
Don Glut has a cool dinosaur collecting site.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NUZd8I52Iv4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NUZd8I52Iv4)

http://www.donglutsdinosaurs.com/ (http://www.donglutsdinosaurs.com/)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on September 20, 2015, 09:54:02 PM
Got these off of Amazon recently. They are three of the new Safari "Toobs", Prehistoric Sealife, Prehistoric Crocodiles, and Prehistoric Sharks.

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/SafariToobsSealifeCrocsSharks_zps6qyumvq0.jpg)

Safari releases nice figures. These are scientifically accurate (though not to scale) and have the names printed on the animals' stomachs. They're made of rather hard rubber, but still pliable. Each Toob has ten figures. I really like these. Very cool and colorful, and prehistoric which makes them exotic and mysterious, and desirable for us dino lovers.  8)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on September 20, 2015, 10:42:53 PM
This is a fun little custom playset a fellow dino collector created along with 17 other similar ones. It's called "Cave Wars", and this is #10/18.

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/CaveWarsPlayset_zpsbxyb5qsp.jpg)

CONTENTS:

MPC Cave Repop

3 Moss Covered Boulders

4 pieces of foliage

15 Prehistoric Animals
(Marx Kronosaurus Repop)
(Marx Wooly Mammoth Repop)
(Marx Allosaurus Repop)
(Marx Iguanodon Repop)
(Marx Struthiomimus Repop)
(MPC Dimetrodon, Plateosaurus, Pteranodon)
(Sinclair Trachodon & Stegosaurus Repops by DFC)
(5 Original 1960s Timmee Dinos: Brontosaurus, Dimetrodon, Stegosaurus, Pterodactyl, and lizard-like dino on the rock)

20 Marx Cavemen Repops in all 6 poses (Candy Red, Green, and Blue)

3 Bags

Two Sided Instruction Sheet

Box (It was also the shipping box with the box art on the inside. You flip it inside out and reassemble it when you receive it.)

This was a pretty good idea to sell some extra pieces.. use them in a limited run of custom playsets. These are very reasonably priced on eBay: $37 including shipping. One thing that made it attractive to me was that no one had done this before and I wanted one to add to my dino collection because it harkens back to classic Dinokid playsets by Marx and MPC. Them being numbered ties them into a theme which is cool. The others are very similar to this one. The mix of dinos and cavemen vary a bit. I procrastinated about buying #1 and someone beat me to it, so I picked the mix I liked best of the others and ordered this #10. Good job, Paul, and I'm looking forward to getting one of those Turok sets you plan to do next. As long as there are us Dinokids these dino playsets will live on!  :)


Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on September 22, 2015, 09:16:46 AM
This is a fun little custom playset a fellow dino collector created along with 17 other similar ones. It's called "Cave Wars", and this is #10/18.

This was a pretty good idea to sell some extra pieces.. use them in a limited run of custom playsets.... because it harkens back to classic Dinokid playsets by Marx and MPC. Them being numbered ties them into a theme which is cool. The others are very similar to this one.

Oh yeah! Boss cool!

 8)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on September 24, 2015, 09:50:05 PM
I decided to finally dust my dino shelf so I thought to take the opportunity to photograph some of the shelf dwellers.

These are some of my Carnegie Safari prehistoric animals. The big Spinosaurus in the middle is by Papo. In the background are two carded sets by MPC and Marx, a Marx Prehistoric Pinball bagatelle game, and a tall drinking cup souvenir from Dinosaur World in Plant City, Florida where I bought most of the Carnegies.

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/CarnegieSafariDinos1_zpsts9gtpci.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/CarnegieSafariDinos2_zpslrd2lalc.jpg)

These pics are busy. Be sure to click the pic to expand it so as to better make out the dino chaos.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: the_horror_man on September 24, 2015, 10:19:52 PM
It's Dino Mania. ;D In the pics, the top right corner. Isn't that an old brachiosaurus figure from like 1988?

thm
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on September 24, 2015, 10:37:25 PM
It's Dino Mania. ;D In the pics, the top right corner. Isn't that an old brachiosaurus figure from like 1988?

thm

Yep, except it's '89 according to this site: http://dinosaurcollectorsitea.com/carnegieSafariB.html (http://dinosaurcollectorsitea.com/carnegieSafariB.html)

Darned close, though.

The big sauropods are in the back since they are so huge. That brachi weighs like 3 lbs! A caveman could use him for a club!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: the_horror_man on September 24, 2015, 10:41:10 PM
Yep, except it's '89 according to this site: [url]http://dinosaurcollectorsitea.com/carnegieSafariB.html[/url] ([url]http://dinosaurcollectorsitea.com/carnegieSafariB.html[/url])

Darned close, though.

The big sauropods are in the back since they are so huge. That brachi weighs like 3 lbs! A caveman could use him for a club!  :laugh:


It is a really nice dino figure. So is the one in front of it. ;D

thm
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on September 24, 2015, 11:10:40 PM
It is a really nice dino figure. So is the one in front of it. ;D

thm
The one immediately in front of the Brachi is the Mamenchisaurus (very long neck sticking off the table). The other more visible sauropod is a Carnegie Diplodocus. Carnegie Safaris are cool looking beasts, and mostly scientifically accurate, but Papo and maybe a couple of other companies seem to be the measuring stick now. I really like the newer, scientifically accurate, prehistoric figures, but my heart lies with Marx, MPC, and other '60s & '70s dinos and especially dino playsets. When you grow up with them they become part of you.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on September 25, 2015, 10:19:23 AM
In the background are two carded sets by MPC and Marx....

Those carded sets are awesome!

 8)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on September 25, 2015, 10:23:13 AM
...but Papo and maybe a couple of other companies seem to be the measuring stick now.

Papo makes incredible figures these days! Figures like Papos would have knocked our eyes out when we were kids.

I really like the newer, scientifically accurate, prehistoric figures, but my heart lies with Marx, MPC, and other '60s & '70s dinos and especially dino playsets. When you grow up with them they become part of you.

Truth! Nothing replaces the things we had as kids.

 8)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on September 25, 2015, 09:17:28 PM
My Invicta prehistoric animals:

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/InvictaDinos1_zpsc7gzqusv.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/InvictaDinos2_zpsxphd2de6.jpg)

From the mid '70s to the mid '80s the British Museum of Natural History prehistoric animal figures by Invicta were state of the art. Then, in 1988 the Carnegie Safari figures surpassed them with most collectors. I still really like these figures. They're like a bridge between classic Marx dinos and the realistic looking scientifically accurate figures being produced today.

Above are pictured all three boxed sets with some dupes. The box for set #2 is missing. There are also some extra singles Invicta offerings: Brachiosaurus, Cetiosaurus, and the white one is a By God Brontosaurus. Says so right on his belly. Take that, Apatosaurus!  :laugh:. Also pictured is the big fold-out poster and some other paperwork.

http://www.dinosaur-toys-collectors-guide.com/invicta-dinosaurs.html (http://www.dinosaur-toys-collectors-guide.com/invicta-dinosaurs.html)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on September 26, 2015, 09:48:41 AM
The packaging of these seems more "sophisticated" than earlier dinosaur sets. How and where were the Invicta sets marketed? Were they sold to the kid market through the same channels in which Marx playsets were sold? Or were they sold primarily through more adult-oriented hobby shops, or just through museum and zoological park gift stores?

 ???

Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on September 26, 2015, 04:23:51 PM
The packaging of these seems more "sophisticated" than earlier dinosaur sets. How and where were the Invicta sets marketed? Were they sold to the kid market through the same channels in which Marx playsets were sold? Or were they sold primarily through more adult-oriented hobby shops, or just through museum and zoological park gift stores?

 ???
Invicta were mainly sold in museums and other adult venues from what I've read. I was a teenager and young adult when these were first made available so I had other things on my mind besides collecting dinosaurs. I first learned about them a few years ago, when I seriously started collecting this stuff, in the Dinosaur Collectibles book and on various websites. I saw a listing on eBay for everything posted above (except the poster) and bid high at the time, around $80 I think, and won the lot. Of course these would sell for more now.. just the boxed set #1 might bring close to that. I ordered the poster a few weeks ago from another eBay seller who had a crapton of 'em for just 5 bucks. I guess there was a warehouse find or two. I've seen the poster listed for stupid money over the years but I just waited. I detest spending stupid money.  ;)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on September 26, 2015, 04:55:50 PM
Some of my Sinclair items:

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/SinclairStuff_zpsqw4cv1z2.jpg)

Dinokids love Sinclair! I would always bug my parents to get gas at Sinclair stations in hope that I might score some dino toys. In October 1966 we ran across the travelling Sinclair World's Fair exhibit on a Florida vacation and my generous parents bought me the bagged Marx-like Sinclair dinos and the bagged Mold-A-Rama Sinclair dinos (they couldn't tote the MAR machines I guess, so they made a bunch and bagged them in sets in those big plastic net bags). I was in Dinokid heaven on that trip.

Pic Description:

1st Row (front 3 items): Round Mirror, 2 Keychains

2nd Row: Small Patch, Timmee Minis Premium Bag of 4, Premium Bag of all 6 Early Timmee Poses, Trachodon Puzzle w/envelope (can't find it listed anywhere), Poloroid I took of the T-Rex at the exhibit in '66

3rd Row: 1964 Booklet, 1967 Booklet, 1966 Booklet

4th Row: Postcard from the 1930s, the 6 Marx-like Sinclair dinos my parents bought me in '66, Dino Soap w/Box

5th Row: All 8 of the Sinclair Dinoland Mold-A-Rama dinos including both Brontosaurus poses

6th Row: Sinclair Blowmold Brontosaurus Bank, Drinking Glass Premium

Back Row: Stamp Album w/Stamps, Hardback The Exciting World Of Dinosaurs Book, Sinclair Florida Map 1960s, Sinclair Kentucky Tennessee Map 1930s

I have more boxed away including the big patches, big inflatable dinos, more keychains, etc., but this is the stuff I had on the shelf when I decided to move everything for dusting so this is the stuff that made the pic.

If anyone knows anything about that puzzle then post it or PM me. I've searched everywhere and I can't find mention of it. I bought some Sinclair stuff off eBay a few weeks ago from a guy whose father had run a Sinclair station in the '60s and '70s and the puzzle came from him. He didn't know anything about it either.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on September 30, 2015, 06:52:40 PM
Some of my miscellaneous older dino items:

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/ELMBagsOfFunLindeWhitePostDinos_zpsojkaigxg.jpg)

The two "Bags Of Fun" are MPC knockoffs from the Payton molds sold by Winneco in the early to mid '70s. Winneco dinos are distinctive by their curly tails and sloppy molding practice resulting in flawed dinos. Still highly sought after by Dinokids, especially in the package.

The three small dinos with boxes are by ELM (Empire Louis Marx) from the '60s. They were made in British Hong Kong and are made of hard, brittle, plastic and factory painted. I had been looking for these things forever and finally scored all three on eBay a few days ago.

The five marbled green ones are made by Linde. They are coffee premiums from Austria in the '50s. Highly collectible, and beautiful, they are modeled after the famous Rudolf Zallinger mural.

The booklet is from Dinosaur Land in White Post, Va. The two little ugly bumpy dinos in front of it were bought at Dinosaur Land a few years ago, Corythosaurus and Protoceratops. I haven't actually been there but from some of the "info" in the booklet you can throw science out the window  :laugh:. Still, Dinosaur Land looks like a place loaded with Dinokid fun. I'd like to go there sometime and check out some of those wild looking dinos/monsters.

A portion of the Zallinger mural:
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2179/4506263151_d4dd85e95c_z.jpg)

That Linde T-Rex is a dead ringer for the Zallinger.  ;)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on October 01, 2015, 08:47:21 AM
The two "Bags Of Fun".... Still highly sought after by Dinokids, especially in the package.

And why wouldn't they be? After all, they're bags of fun!

The three small dinos with boxes are by ELM (Empire Louis Marx) from the '60s. They were made in British Hong Kong and are made of hard, brittle, plastic and factory painted. I had been looking for these things forever and finally scored all three on eBay a few days ago.

Congratulations! Always great to find something you've been actively seeking.

 :)



Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on October 01, 2015, 12:57:46 PM
And why wouldn't they be? After all, they're bags of fun!

Congratulations! Always great to find something you've been actively seeking.

 :)
Thanks, Hep.

Well, it looks like ImageShack blew up so I'll be reposting the Marx playsets I posted earlier in this thread with better pics, as well as the ones I hadn't posted yet. It may take awhile but I'm motivated to do it now that I have a decent camera. It's cool to have that stuff on the 'net in case any fellow dino collectors want to check it out.

Regarding ImageShack: It's a good thing I switched to Photobucket when I did. As it is there are a lot of old pics of mine posted on UMA that evaporated, but at least the more recent (and best) pics are stable. I even had to redo my avatar with a more recent pic of my Haunted Hulk. Thanks, ImageShack, for dropping the ball and causing chaos.  ::)

Well, it's Autumn. I wonder if Jeff Pfeiffer is ever going to get that dinosaur playset book published, or is he doomed to do drive-by posts every few months into infinity to advertise the thing like some sort of recurring Flying Dutchman haunt? It looks like a good info source... if it ever actually appears.

Mmmmph. Just checked ImageShack for the halibut and they're back up and say they're hoping to have everything straightened out by the end of the week. I'm still going to repost those early dino playsets regardless of ImageShack's antics. Those pictures I took with the old camera were terrible.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Scatter on October 01, 2015, 08:12:51 PM
HEY!!! That Marx Dino playset with the grey rocks is the set I had!! Cool stuff!!
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on October 01, 2015, 09:31:54 PM
This one?

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MarxPT3394_zps787bf303.jpg)

 ???
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Scatter on October 01, 2015, 10:28:07 PM
That's the one!!
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on October 02, 2015, 11:20:19 AM
What year then did you get the set? From what kind of store?

 ???

Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Scatter on October 02, 2015, 05:41:07 PM
I was the youngest of three boys...........and the youngest among my cousins. Dude, I got great hand-me-down toys!!
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on October 02, 2015, 07:02:51 PM
Reposting this with better pics.  :)

This is my Prehistoric Times Playset #3390 (Marx, 1957):

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/Marx3390_1_zpsgm1fgwyf.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/Marx3390_2_zpsxdyxyrim.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MarkBookletP561F_zps8b714868.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MarxBookletP561B_zps4cb36ee2.jpg)

CONTENTS:

Vacu-form Terrain Piece

1 Large Mold Group (PL-749) (Green Pot-bellied T-Rex, Green Brontosaurus, Metallic Green Kronosaurus)

1 Medium Mold Group (PL-750) (6 Dinos in Gray)

2 Small Mold Groups (PL-755-7) (7 Dinos in Green, 7 Dinos in Marbled Gray)

Total 23 Dinos

2 Groups of 6 Cavemen (6 in Cream, 6 in Tan)

4 Palm Trees (Trunks/Bases in Brown Hard Plastic, Fronds in Dark Green Soft Plastic)

4 Ferns (Bases in Brown Hard Plastic, Leaves in Dark Green Soft Plastic)

Dead Tree & 2 Stumps (Light Gray Hard Plastic)

Booklet (P-56-1)

Box

The 3390 (Series 1000) was the first Marx dinosaur playset, and one of the most common still. When these are found they are usually incomplete, frequently having extra parts that are not part of the set. The box, when present, is usually damaged to varying degrees, as is the booklet. The vacu-form terrain piece cracks if you stare at it too hard, so it is commonly damaged when found. This is the iconic Marx dinosaur playset. It is one of the "longbox sets".

Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on October 03, 2015, 09:42:08 AM
Which is the set with the most pieces again?

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Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on October 03, 2015, 01:47:18 PM
Which is the set with the most pieces again?

 ???

The #3398 from 1961 had the most prehistoric animals (36):

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/Marx3398_1961_1_zpsdb9c9241.jpg)

The reissued #3398 from 1971 also had 36 dinos but it's a pale shadow of the original since the newer version had the dinos and cavemen in the dull "Heritage" type plastic with no color variations.

The mountain sets from '74-'77 had the biggest and most elaborate terrain pieces with their 5 piece mountain setups.

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/GiantPrehistoricMountain4304new_zps5092db9d.jpg)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on October 04, 2015, 12:04:55 AM
Here's Larry at Xmas in 1957 with his Marx Prehistoric Times playset:

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/General%20Album%203001/Larry-MarxDinosaurset-Christmas1957_zpscvivkzwh.jpg)

 8)

Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on October 06, 2015, 06:21:01 PM
My Prehistoric Times #3388 (Marx, 1958), the first squarebox set:

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/Marx3388_1_zps9pypblal.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/Marx3388_2_zpsajdcjawn.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MarkBookletP561F_zps8b714868.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MarxBookletP561B_zps4cb36ee2.jpg)

CONTENTS:

4 pc Terrain Set (Cave in lightly marbled Brown, 2 Rocks in lightly marbled Brown, Pond in heavily marbled Gray/Brown, all Hard Plastic)

1 Large Mold Group (PL-749) (Gray Pot-Bellied T-Rex, Green Brontosaurus, Marbled Metallic Silver Kronosaurus)

2 Sleek T-Rex (Green & Lt. Gray)

2 Medium Mold Groups (PL-750) (6 Dinos in Lt.Gray, 6 Dinos in Green)

2 Small Mold Groups (PL-755-7) (7 Dinos in Green, 7 Dinos in Brown)

31 Dinos Total

4 Palm Trees & 4 Ferns (Trunks/Bases in Tan Hard Plastic, Leaves/Fronds in Green Soft Plastic)

Booklet (P-56-1)

Box w/Corrugated Insert

The Marx Prehistoric Times #3388 is the first squarebox set with the 4 piece rock formation set included in Marx Wagon Train playsets and others. 3388s did not commonly have the set number on the box, and they normally did not contain cavemen. My other squarebox set, the #3394, does contain cavemen, as did the one I had as a child. When Marx released the #3398 in 1961 they included cavemen once again in that set, and in every set after that. Customer feedback probably requested the cavemen as part of the sets. They did add play value for me as a child, and interest for me as an adult collector.



Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on October 08, 2015, 02:59:32 PM
The boxes and pamphlet are marked 1987. I think they were only sold for a couple of years. IMO the Superior sets are the best of the "after-Marx" sets which used the Marx molds.


How again do you tell the Superior repops from the Marx originals?

And have many of the original Marx, MPC, etc figures been unofficially, i.e. illegally, repopped? How do you/can you tell? One of the reasons I'm asking is because the Time Passages Nostalgia Company was selling this lot of dinos with the words:

Quote from: Time Passages Nostalgia
The picture shows a view of all (11) Old MARX Dinosaur & Prehistoric Animal Play Set Figures in this lot. These figures may be ones that were reissued, but we do not know for sure.


(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/General%20Album%203001/dinosars_zpstlk0xotv.jpg)

Could you tell whether they were repops? Should the Time Passages Nostalgia Company have been able to tell as well? Do you think this was one of those situations where a seller knows, or should know, the provenance of an item but claims ignorance and says that he's just selling whatever "As is"?

 ???




Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on October 08, 2015, 04:36:44 PM
How again do you tell the Superior repops from the Marx originals?

Here's a pic of some of my Superior dinos (Large Mold Group and Medium Mold Group):

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/SuperiorDinos_zpsa514fba8.jpg)

Superior recasts were always swirled or marbled whereas only Marx dinos in the older lead-based plastic were marbled. The Superiors were made with the newer waxy/shiny plastic like the newer Marx dinos from the '70s (Heritage plastic is the common collector nickname). So, if you get a Marx-mold marbled/swirled dino and it's the newer plastic then it's Superior. If it's the older lead-based flat colored plastic then it's original Marx.

The original marbled Marx dinos are fairly uncommon and sell for 2-5 times the cost of the more common non-marbled Marx, depending on the amount of marbling and general attractiveness of the piece, which is in the eye of the purchaser. Superior dinos are much more scarce than original Marx, and seem to sell for about the same premium as original Marx marbled dinos. (Example: a regular common Marx Allosaurus in nice condition might sell for around $3-4, whereas a Superior Allosaurus might fetch $8-12.)

Most of the original Marx marbled dinos were from the small mold group which Superior never made. So, an original regular common Marx Dimetrodon non-marbled figure might sell for $2-3, and a well marbled version of the same dino might go for $6-15.

These dollar figures in these examples are all ball park to be sure. The only real active marketplace for this stuff is evilBay and we know how chaotic that is. If Aunt Sally finds a bunch of old dinosaur toys in her basement and sells the lot on fleaBay they may end up selling for a quarter apiece or 3 bucks apiece depending on who's bidding and how good the pics are. However, there are several dealers on eBay who consistently sell this stuff as BIN and those are the prices I'm referring to in the examples above.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on October 08, 2015, 05:02:29 PM
And have many of the original Marx, MPC, etc figures been unofficially, i.e. illegally, repopped? How do you/can you tell? One of the reasons I'm asking is because the Time Passages Nostalgia Company was selling this lot of dinos with the words:

([url]http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/General%20Album%203001/dinosars_zpstlk0xotv.jpg[/url])

Could you tell whether they were repops? Should the Time Passages Nostalgia Company have been able to tell as well? Do you think this was one of those situations where a seller knows, or should know, the provenance of an item but claims ignorance and says that he's just selling whatever "As is"?

 ???

I don't think any of the older dino toy repops were illegally made. After the molds left the hands of the original companies, and those companies were dissolved, it was a case of the implied rights following the molds. I never heard of anyone being sued for repopping Marx/MPC/Lido etc. toy dinos. Most of those molds are probably south of the border now along with the Nutty Mads, MarxMons, Pop-Tops, and a lot of other Monsterkid faves. They're crankin' 'em out down there and peddling them on evilBay and who knows where else. I've noticed quite a few of the Marx 2nd Series (Mammals & Monsters) repops on eBay recently, minus the Megatherium. Evidently that mold was partially damaged in the '90s and you see 7 of the 8 figures with no Megatherium (Giant Ground Sloth).

Re: the pic you posted above, it's hard to tell from that pic but those look like Marx dinos from the '70s in the mint green waxy looking "Heritage" plastic. The seller probably just doesn't know for sure, hence the disclaimer. Most sellers can't tell Marx & MPC originals from repops. It takes an obsessive collector who grew up playing with these things and collecting After-Marx dinos into adulthood to be fairly certain which is which. There are info sources which certainly help, to which there are links posted thoughout this thread. Another help should be that new book about Marx and MPC Dinosaur Playsets if the thing ever comes out.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on October 09, 2015, 08:13:58 AM
Yeah, that's the detail in which I'm most interested, telling present day repops from Marx, MPC or Superior originals.

 :-\
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on October 09, 2015, 01:41:05 PM
Yeah, that's the detail in which I'm most interested, telling present day repops from Marx, MPC or Superior originals.

 :-\
Original Marx and MPC dinosaurs are still VERY plentiful, probably far outnumbering the repops. Many of the repops (like Superior) sell for more than the originals because some collectors want the After-Marx repops from the '80s and '90s. Some of the originals are scarce and expensive like the Metallic Green ones, and to a lesser extent, Metallic Silver, Marbled, Tan, and a few other colors. But, most common Marx/MPC originals are really only worth around $2-$3 each because there still so many. The larger original Marx dinos in common colors sell for a bit more (Pot-Bellied T-Rex $15, Kronosaurus $15, Sleek T-Rex $12, Brontosaurus $10, Wooly Mammoth $10, Megatherium $10, other 2nd Series $5). Naturally, if bought in groups they end up being even cheaper. The Marx recasts by Superior, on the other hand, are quite scarce, and sell for 2-5 times what the original common Marx dinos do.

Anyone interested in collecting Marx/MPC dinos should just jump in and start buying cheap eBay lots. Playsets turn up on eBay in various states of completion, and often with extra pieces. Bid on some playsets and add them to your stash. Eventually you'll accumulate enough extra pieces to start completing those playsets and you can always sell off extras. I started doing this about 14 years ago and I now have most of the Marx, MPC, and After-Marx, playsets and related items. It's like anything else, you learn by doing. After you've owned a few hundred dinos and done the research through books/mags, the web, and talking to other collectors then you'll be able to tell originals from repops and know the correct contents of those playsets. You might even put together some custom playsets, as I have.  :)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on October 09, 2015, 03:22:29 PM
Here's a pic of some of my Superior dinos (Large Mold Group and Medium Mold Group):

([url]http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/SuperiorDinos_zpsa514fba8.jpg[/url])

Superior recasts were always swirled or marbled whereas only Marx dinos in the older lead-based plastic were marbled. The Superiors were made with the newer waxy/shiny plastic like the newer Marx dinos from the '70s (Heritage plastic is the common collector nickname).


Those Superior dinos look fabulous. And they're all tail draggers too!

 8)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on October 09, 2015, 04:29:28 PM
Those Superior dinos look fabulous. And they're all tail draggers too!

 8)
Yeah, they're made using the old Marx molds. What makes Superior dinos special is the heavily swirled color variations. They are really all unique, like the old Marx marbled/swirled dinos. Each separate one is like a fingerprint because of the mix of different colors with random patterns.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on October 16, 2015, 07:01:01 PM
My other longbox set, Prehistoric Times #3392 (Marx, 1958):

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/Marx3392_1_zps1eik3j3b.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/Marx3392_2_zpst6hdckrg.jpg)

CONTENTS:

Vacu-form Terrain Piece

1 Large Mold Group (PL-749) (Pot-bellied T-Rex Lt. Green, Brontosaurus Metallic Silver, Kronosaurus Marbled Gray)

1 Medium Mold Group (PL-750) (6 Dinos in Gray)

2 Small Mold Groups (PL-755-7) (7 Dinos in Gray, 7 Dinos in Green)

Total 23 Dinos

12 Cavemen (6 Cavemen in Cream, 6 Cavemen in Tan)

4 Palm Trees & 4 Ferns (Trunks/Bases in Tan Hard Plastic, Leaves/Fronds in Dark Green Soft Plastic)

Booklet (P-56-1)

Box

The #3392 is in the second wave of longbox sets Marx released in 1958. It had the same contents as the #3390 from a year earlier except the dead tree and 2 stumps were omitted. The vacu-form terrain piece is still present, and notoriously easy to crack and break being quite brittle. This was the first Marx dino playset that I completed about 15 years ago. I bought the box, terrain piece, and booklet, from a dealer at a toy show. I replaced the correct dinos from some I had from Dinokidhood plus a few I picked up over the next few months. For a short while this was the gem of my toy dino collection.

Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on October 16, 2015, 10:31:53 PM
Those Marx sets just scream baby boomer monster kid goodness!

 8)

Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on October 17, 2015, 02:18:15 PM
Those Marx sets just scream baby boomer monster kid goodness!

 8)
I agree, Hep. Marx and MPC dinosaur toys are some of the most iconic of Monsterkid/Dinokid toys. Nearly all of us grew up playing with them, and the playsets are great collectibles. There are many views for this thread so I know there is interest, possibly more interest from non-UMA members who check in regularly because there aren't any other conversation sources for this stuff on the web which is updated very often that I'm aware of. I started this thread over 2 years ago and frankly I'm baffled that there hasn't been more participation from UMA members. One would think among the mega monster toy collectors on here that a few would be collecting dino playsets and '60s/'70s Dinokid toys. The only two people who have posted any of their dino toys besides myself have been Bigbud and Jeff Pfeiffer, and Pfeiffer just does those drive-by posts every few months to advertise a book that seemingly never comes out. I invited Pfeiffer to join us as a collector and show some pics of some of his stuff actually out of the box and join the conversation with some of his own experiences but he never even answered my post.. just barreled by to the next site hawking this promised tome. Aside from some posts in the model section UMA seems to be barren of other dino toy collectors. Baffled...

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I will continue posting my dino stuff. Maybe someone else will jump on board at some point. A special thanks to Hepcat for sharing his interest in classic dino toys and for keeping the conversation going.  :)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on October 18, 2015, 09:06:51 AM
I started this thread over 2 years ago and frankly I'm baffled that there hasn't been more participation from UMA members. One would think among the mega monster toy collectors on here that a few would be collecting dino playsets and '60s/'70s Dinokid toys.

Aside from some posts in the model section UMA seems to be barren of other dino toy collectors. Baffled....

I'm also surprised that there aren't more members collecting the dinosaur and other playsets. Surely some members must have had at least one as kids. I did not, so this is an area in which I have particularly much to learn, but I'm always wiling to learn.

 :)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on October 18, 2015, 09:12:25 AM
The #3398 from 1961 had the most prehistoric animals (36):

([url]http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/Marx3398_1961_1_zpsdb9c9241.jpg[/url])


I'd be tempted to set up and run an American Flyer train set through a landscape populated by those prehistoric animals, minus the cavemen of course. A combo set so to speak!

 :)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on October 18, 2015, 12:17:28 PM
I'd be tempted to set up and run an American Flyer train set through a landscape populated by those prehistoric animals, minus the cavemen of course! A combo set so to speak!

 :)

Here's a huge setup using the Flintstones Train Set & Village:

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-j1RM7Jk_QDA/TaIBBXs2VUI/AAAAAAAABdg/i-nvIMwVmH8/s1600/IMG_1930.JPG)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-MeisRAIHk2g/TaIFARYo2WI/AAAAAAAABdw/wbzIwlQeEKs/s1600/IMG_1937.JPG)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-e4dUOAZcpFg/TaIGa-Lu2DI/AAAAAAAABeE/WMXyfgyR60c/s1600/IMG_2179.JPG)

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3137/2966248802_c2d831d45e_z.jpg)(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3044/2965402997_33bc4ae87d_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on October 18, 2015, 02:04:39 PM
Marx and MPC dinosaur toys are some of the most iconic of Monsterkid/Dinokid toys. Nearly all of us grew up playing with them....

In retrospect, it was probably easier for a baby boomer kid to get his parents to buy him one of the Marx or MPC dinosaur playsets than any specific monster toy quite simply because parents might think the dino playsets were "educational" in a fashion.

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on October 18, 2015, 02:50:33 PM
In retrospect, it was probably easier for a baby boomer kid to get his parents to buy him one of the Marx or MPC dinosaur playsets than any specific monster toy quite simply because parents might think the dino playsets were "educational" in a fashion.

 :laugh:

That could have played into it in some cases since in the late '50s and '60s Marx, and even MPC, dinosaurs were fairly scientifically accurate. But, for the most part, toy dinosaurs were marketed as "monsters" to monster loving kids at the height of the monster boom. Here's a pic of my MPC carded set to illustrate that.

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MPC1stSeriesCardedDinos_zpsc1286428.jpg)

This is another reason I'm surprised that seemingly nobody else in UMA collects classic dino playsets and related items. To most Monsterkids the dinos were considered monsters. Just look at iconic comics of the time like Turok, Star Spangled War Stories, and hundreds of dinosaur covers and stories in most titles. Dinosaurs were portrayed as gigantic carnivorous monsters, in some cases of kaiju proportions.

(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100605201753/marvel_dc/images/1/16/Star-Spangled_War_Stories_125.jpg)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: jimm on October 18, 2015, 09:02:31 PM
Wow love that layout with the trains

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Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Scatter on October 18, 2015, 09:39:28 PM
Here's a huge setup using the Flintstones Train Set & Village:

([url]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-j1RM7Jk_QDA/TaIBBXs2VUI/AAAAAAAABdg/i-nvIMwVmH8/s1600/IMG_1930.JPG[/url])

([url]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-MeisRAIHk2g/TaIFARYo2WI/AAAAAAAABdw/wbzIwlQeEKs/s1600/IMG_1937.JPG[/url])

([url]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-e4dUOAZcpFg/TaIGa-Lu2DI/AAAAAAAABeE/WMXyfgyR60c/s1600/IMG_2179.JPG[/url])

([url]https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3137/2966248802_c2d831d45e_z.jpg[/url])([url]https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3044/2965402997_33bc4ae87d_z.jpg[/url])


HOLY CRAP!! I LOVE THIS!!
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on October 19, 2015, 08:54:17 AM
Here's a huge setup using the Flintstones Train Set & Village:

Is that Flintstones Train Set & Village from your own collection as well?

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Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on October 19, 2015, 12:16:03 PM
Is that Flintstones Train Set & Village from your own collection as well?

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No, not mine.

When you mentioned setting up a train set to run through the dino playset I remembered seeing those pics on the net and fetched them for us to look at.  :)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Scatter on October 19, 2015, 09:18:06 PM
If I had that Flintstones train set-up, I'd never leave the house.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on October 20, 2015, 09:01:19 PM
Here's a scarce package type of MPC dinos from the '60s or early '70s:

(https://sp.yimg.com/xj/th?id=OIP.Me94541ec70d7b0f76fd13a9242c34fe0o0&pid=15.1&P=0&w=300&h=300)

The loose dinos are common and worth maybe 3-4 bucks each. But, sealed original packaging like this is highly sought after by collectors and fetches big bucks at auction. Prices vary widely because this stuff doesn't change hands often, but I would expect this item to sell for $200-$250 or maybe more. The common carded Marx and MPC sets in nice condition generally sell in the $150-$200 range now. Cheap rack toys when they sold new.. boy, how things change.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on October 20, 2015, 09:06:43 PM
Found this when I was searching for prehistoric playset ads. Evidently this is the mold groupings for MPC dinosaurs.

Series 1:
(http://www.angelfire.com/biz/toysoldierhq/zmpcdinonew1b.jpg)

Series 2:
(http://www.angelfire.com/biz/toysoldierhq/zmpcdinonew2e.jpg)

Not too sure about those dates though. I always thought the MPC dinos came out starting in '64. Maybe if Pfeiffer ever gets that book published he'll have more definitive info regarding that. I know that as a kid I started buying them around the time I was 5 years old, and that would have been '64. It could be that I just first started noticing them then, having been too young before. I know that some of the original carded MPC sets are dated 1964, like this one from my collection.

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MPC1stSeriesCardedDinos_zpsc1286428.jpg)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on October 21, 2015, 08:19:49 AM
Not too sure about those dates though. I always thought the MPC dinos came out starting in '64. Maybe if Pfeiffer ever gets that book published he'll have more definitive info regarding that. I know that as a kid I started buying them around the time I was 5 years old, and that would have been '64. It could be that I just first started noticing them then, having been too young before. I know that some of the original carded MPC sets are dated 1964, like this one from my collection.

Were the MPC dinos not distributed with or in bags of Fritos Corn Chips sometime in the sixties? Could this have predated MPC packaging these dinos on cards as rack toys?

 ???
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on October 21, 2015, 12:25:34 PM
Were the MPC dinos not distributed with or in bags of Fritos Corn Chipssometime in the sixties? Could this have predated MPC packaging these dinos on cards as rack toys?

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MPC dinos were given away in these Nabisco cereals, but this was in the late '60s and would have been well after they began being sold as rack toys.

(http://www.angelfire.com/biz/toysoldierhq/zmpcdinoprem1.jpg)

http://www.angelfire.com/biz/toysoldierhq/Premiums.html (http://www.angelfire.com/biz/toysoldierhq/Premiums.html)

The colors in the pic above are actually the standard colors. The pic below is of the MPC cereal premium dinosaur colors. (hot linking to eBay pic so it may not last long)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxNDgy/z/IuEAAOSwstxVVZke/$_35.JPG)

Anyway, the cereal premium colors are Red, Purple, Dark Green, Orange, and Yellow (Yellow ones were also sold in the big MPC dino playsets up into the '70s). I still have a MPC purple Diatryma that I got with cereal back in the late '60s. I'm not sure how long the promotion lasted but it may have been into 1970.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on October 21, 2015, 02:54:45 PM
Anyway, the cereal premium colors are Red, Purple, Dark Green, Orange, and Yellow.

A gross deception. I clearly see a blue diatryma in the picture as well.

 :o

Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on October 21, 2015, 05:30:14 PM
A gross deception. I clearly see a blue diatryma in the picture as well.

 :o
Blue is one of the common MPC dino colors, but may have also been used with the cereal premiums. Yellow was used as a color for the common MPC dinos and the cereal premiums so maybe blue was as well. There isn't much good documentation to nail down the exact colors but that eBay pic is probably accurate from what I've seen and remember. The cereal premium MPC dinos seem to sell for about double what the common ones do, maybe about 6-8 bucks. But I wouldn't pay extra unless I knew for sure it was a MPC cereal premium dino, in other words unless it was Red, Purple, Dark Green, or Orange. The Red ones seem to be the most scarce and might fetch a little more.. say, $10-$12. These prices would be dealer to collector, of course. You could buy anything on fleaBay for a fraction of it's value if it's listed improperly or you get lucky with an auction. Those original cereal boxes could sell for hundreds of dollars if you could find them at all.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on October 22, 2015, 01:09:51 PM
X-PLUS released a couple of nice big dinos in 2002. They are the only two figures in the Prehistoric Masterpiece Collection.

Albertosaurus is over 20" long and comes with a folding display card and base.

(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh319/ItsTwentyBelow7/IMG_0394.jpg)

Styracosaurus is 16" long and comes with the folding display card.

(http://www.dinotoyblog.com/dinotoyimages/july11/styracosaurus_xplus1.png)

I bought both a few years ago and they look great on the shelf. They are made of lightweight hollow vinyl. Great detail for figures of this size. They were originally sold inexpensively for around $15 each, but are OOP now.

These are pics off the net. I use them sometimes instead of dragging out the camera and going through all the hosting shenanigans.  ;)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on October 22, 2015, 03:25:40 PM
Were the MPC dinos not distributed with or in bags of Fritos Corn Chips sometime in the sixties? Could this have predated MPC packaging these dinos on cards as rack toys?

 ???

MPC dinos were given away in these Nabisco cereals, but this was in the late '60s and would have been well after they began being sold as rack toys.

I recall that a collecting buddy of mine in Ottawa who's a particularly avid collector of cereal and potato chip premiums as well as assorted Marx playsets and figures such as the Disneykins mentioned to me that he used to get dinosaurs in bags of Frito Corn Chips. I sent him an email on the subject yesterday. Here is his reply:

Quote from: JV
Great to hear from you.  Actually the Fritos' dinos were (generally) smaller and, as I recall, made of a shinier, cheaper kind of plastic (although that may have been my impression simply because of their size).  As for the cereal ones; the earlier ones, in the 1960s, were larger, duller and slightly more rubbery plastic (though not rubber).  As time went on, figures became smaller, shinier, a more smooth plastic and more vibrant colours.  I fed on many a Fritos' corn chip (dinosaur) when young; not sure if this made me an omnivore or carnivore....

As for the dinos, I can be pretty specific.   You see, we were living in Bells Corners, a rural spot at the time just outside Ottawa.  We moved there in 1961.  I lived there until 1967.   We had to bus to school; so, I could never buy chips etc., as they did not let you leave the schoolyard and one had to catch the bus immediately after school.  So, the only time we could buy Fritos Corn Chips was on Sunday's, after church, as a 'reward' for being quiet in church.  I always bought the very large 29 cent bag of Fritos; bigger than the 10 cent but not as large as say a box of bugles (about 1/2 to 2/3 the size of a box of bugles).   Inside, was I think only a single dinosaur (perhaps 2, I can't quite recall).  Another premium  that I recall from the bags were a series of put-together wagons (I have the set I think).  I'm sure there were other premiums as well, but I cannot recall which.  I would say that the years that I was accumulating these would be 1961-65.

 :)
 
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on October 22, 2015, 06:10:45 PM
MPC dinos were given away in these Nabisco cereals, but this was in the late '60s and would have been well after they began being sold as rack toys.

I recall that a collecting buddy of mine in Ottawa who's a particularly avid collector of cereal and potato chip premiums as well as assorted Marx playsets and figures such as the Disneykins mentioned to me that he used to get dinosaurs in bags of Frito Corn Chips. I sent him an email on the subject yesterday. Here is his reply:

 :)

It sounds like your friend is describing the Lido/Nabisco dino premiums that were given away with Fritos. Here's another look at the pic of my Lidos posted earlier:

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/LidoDinos2_zpslcdwxvsi.jpg)

The 10 at the top were given away with Fritos in the late '60s. The 8 Prehistoric Beasts in the middle were given away in the Rice and Wheat Honeys around 1960. The 10 marbled green ones at the bottom were given away in the Rice and Wheat Honeys in the late '50s (the box is an original shipping box when the entire set of 10 was ordered by mail).

I'm not sure what he means by "As for the cereal ones... As time went on, figures became smaller, shinier, a more smooth plastic and more vibrant colours." To my knowledge the MPC cereal premium dinos from the late '60s weren't followed by different dinos matching this description. I wonder if he's confusing the Lido Fritos premiums with cereal premiums in the late '60s. Maybe there were other cereal premium promotions that I'm unaware of, or maybe they varied some between Canada and the US.

As far as I know it breaks down like this:

* The Lido/Nabisco premiums were given away in cereal in the late '50s-early '60s, and given away with chips (Fritos) in the late '60s.

* The MPC premiums were given away in cereal in the late '60s. MPC jungle animals and deep sea fish were featured in separate cereal premium promotions as well as the dinos.


Thanks for trying to dig up some history on these dino premiums. To non-collectors this all may seem silly, but this was important to us as kids and is important to us as collectors. If we keep at it maybe we can uncover the facts and lock down the history for other collectors.  :)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on October 22, 2015, 06:52:02 PM
I wonder if he's confusing the Lido Fritos premiums with cereal premiums in the late '60s.

That's certainly possible after over fifty years. But then again he does seem to have a strong memory of getting a big bag of Fritos Corn Chips containing a dinosaur premium every Sunday after church at the time when he was living out in the sticks in 1961-65.

Maybe there were other cereal premium promotions that I'm unaware of, or maybe they varied some between Canada and the US.

Indeed. Maybe the dinos he found in Fritos Corn Chips weren't MPC ones. I actually don't remember Fritos Corn Chips in Canada before about 1963(?).

 ???



Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on October 22, 2015, 06:53:44 PM
It sounds like your friend is describing the Lido/Nabisco dino premiums that were given away with Fritos. Here's another look at the pic of my Lidos posted earlier:

([url]http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/LidoDinos2_zpslcdwxvsi.jpg[/url])


That's a great looking set of dinos and with the shipping box and everything!

 8)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on October 22, 2015, 07:14:06 PM
Here's one of the handy dandy Dinosaur Guides that came free when you ordered one of the two sets of 5 dinos by mail:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7022/6796796659_16b10bbe03_z.jpg)

As explained on this classic cereal box from the late '50s.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7JPhiAZfD0k/VW8d2TfhT5I/AAAAAAAAHhs/fWqSdCQDj4M/s1600/box-crop.jpg)

Sadly, I don't currently have either guide (A or B) in my collection, or the cereal box (which would set you back a small fortune if you could find one).

Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on October 22, 2015, 11:34:07 PM
A Sears Wishbook ad from probably 1974 featuring the Marx One Million B.C. Play Set (bottom, right):

(http://www.marxwildwest.com/Marx%20buildings/sears%20catalog%20page.jpg)

The MPC Planet Of The Apes Play Set (top, right) included the metallic blue mountain and two rock arches which were also used in the MPC dinosaur playsets, and the bridge and trees used in the MPC Jungle Sets including the King Kong Jungle Set.

Later, in 1987, Superior used the large Marx mountain piece as well as the rock bridge from the One Million B.C. Play Set/Prehistoric Mountain (1975), and the boulder halves and smaller rock bridge from the Marx Ambush At Falling Rock Play Set/Comanche Pass (top, left) as terrain pieces in their Rulers Of The Earth dinosaur playsets.

Collectors seldom have the luxury of being able to buy complete playsets and have to buy incomplete examples and various original pieces to reassemble their favorite playsets. eBay is the best source for most collectors to buy these partial sets and pieces. Nice boxes and paperwork are some of the hardest things to find. Most eBay sellers have no clue what the original playset contained and sell partial sets with extra pieces not belonging to that set that got thrown in over the years. The best way to reassemble original playsets for your collection is to keep adding to your stash of original pieces and use those to complete similar types of playsets as the need arises. Collectors who want complete original sets have to educate themselves on what these sets originally contained, and how to tell original pieces from repops. This info is scarce so some investigation must be done to attain this knowledge, which is added to what you remember from kidhood actually playing with this stuff. It takes awhile, years sometimes, but eventually a collector will know which playset contained what, and how to tell reissued pieces from the real thing. It's an enjoyable journey which results in a nice collection of original playsets.

Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on October 27, 2015, 06:28:48 PM
When I see an erroneous listing on evilBay I usually mind my own business. But, if it's a dino playset sometimes I'll shoot the seller a message with what I understand to be a correct description. I saw the following listing identified as being made by Superior from the '80s and I recognized the reissued Marx and MPC parts as being from Toy Street in the '90s.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/361416890891?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/361416890891?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

I messaged the seller with this info and received the reply that he changed the description in the listing. He even thanked me for the heads-up. It makes it worthwhile to help people if they're honest like this guy seems to be. Some sellers would have ignored the message and thought they might get more for an older collectible.

This is my copy of the Toy Street Land Of The Dinosaurs Playset that this seller is offering parts from.

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/ToyStreetLOTD1_zpsdfa3c846.jpg)

Most of the Toy Street sets had the Marx Cave/Pond/Rock Arch repop terrain pieces. The eBay listing has the MPC mountain and rock arch repop pieces. It's possible that Toy Street used these in some later sets. They changed the exact contents as time went on, and replaced nicer with cheaper. At the end of the run I believe they were using cardboard terrain and less (or cheaper) dinos. Still, these Toy Street sets are in some demand by dino collectors today.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on October 27, 2015, 07:32:05 PM
Collectors who want complete original sets have to educate themselves on what these sets originally contained, and how to tell original pieces from repops. This info is scarce so some investigation must be done to attain this knowledge, which is added to what you remember from kidhood actually playing with this stuff. It takes awhile, years sometimes, but eventually a collector will know which playset contained what, and how to tell reissued pieces from the real thing. It's an enjoyable journey which results in a nice collection of original playsets.

Are there any goo books on the history of Marx playsets?

 ???
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on October 27, 2015, 07:58:04 PM
Are there any good books on the history of Marx playsets?

 ???

Not really concerning the dinos.

Dinosaur Collectibles by Mike Fredericks and Dana Cain offers a section on Marx, but not very much info.

Plastic Figure & Playset Collector #64 (Dec. '99) has a good in-depth article on Marx dinos and prehistoric playsets.

The cereal collector's fanzine Freakie Magnet #11 (Spring '98) has a 3 page article on Marx dinos and prehistoric playsets by Joe DeMarco, but only covers the '50s and '60s. That issue also has an article covering the Lido/Nabisco dino and prehistoric beast cereal premiums.

Perhaps the best current info is this 2 part Marx Monograph right here on the web: http://www.dinosaur-toys-collectors-guide.com/marx-playset-monograph.html (http://www.dinosaur-toys-collectors-guide.com/marx-playset-monograph.html)
Part 2 even covers After-Marx copies and repop sets.

If Pfeiffer ever gets that book out it should have some good info. If he's done his homework it should be the go-to source on the subject. Maybe he'll get it published before we all keel over of old age.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on October 27, 2015, 08:29:30 PM
But I'm not asking specifically about dinosaurs. I'm wondering about books on Marx playsets in general.

 ???

Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on October 27, 2015, 09:45:24 PM
But I'm not asking specifically about dinosaurs. I'm wondering about books on Marx playsets in general.

 ???
Yes, I believe there are several. There is one book dealing with Marx Western Playsets in particular. There is also a series of DVDs covering different Marx playsets, but no Prehistoric Playsets. Any of these are probably easy to find on eBay or Amazon, or through certain dealers.

I don't have any of these, and don't know much about them, because I only collect dinosaur and monster related items.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on October 30, 2015, 07:40:42 PM
Marx Prehistoric Mountain siting on evilBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/351564578555?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/351564578555?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/R-wAAOSwT5tWMrha/s-l1600.jpg)

At 300 bucks it isn't a bad deal. The 5 piece mountain terrain is nice, and undamaged examples of the 5-pc terrain set seem to sell for around $150-$200. It's only missing a couple of common dinos (there's even a red MPC Ceratogaulos thrown in), 7 common cavemen, 1 palm tree with frond(s), 1 other palm frond, 1 fern base, instruction sheet, and color booklet. The box is little more than trash and really has little if any value in that condition. If I were selling that set in person I would throw in the box for free. The playmat is rough, but this is the condition they usually show up in. I would only advocate cutting up a collectible box in an extreme situation since packaging is so important and valuable. But, this situation is pretty extreme. If it were mine I would cut up that crappy box to salvage whatever graphics I could and just store them stacked on a shelf. That box is certainly not displayable, and I wouldn't want to use it to store the pieces either. Nice boxes and paperwork are the hardest things to find with these sets. Maybe another incomplete example might net a decent box in future. It seems to cost $500-$600 or more to complete a nice example of one of these mountain sets currently. But, the sooner you get started the less you spend. Older high demand collectibles continue to rise in price, sometimes dramatically. These mountain sets have steadily gone up over the past few years due to supply and demand.

In order to get a complete playset a collector has to buy one or more incomplete examples and finish it out with the correct bits and pieces. If anyone is serious about this it pays to amass a stash of extra playset parts, and, of course, know what the set contained initially. The stash saves a lot of trouble and shipping costs having to buy things as you need them. And, you can always sell the extra pieces after you've finished your playsets. Since it takes years to finish several playsets, the extra pieces you've accumulated will probably bring a profit if listed correctly on eBay because this stuff seems to outpace inflation consistently.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Sean on October 30, 2015, 08:01:24 PM
A Warren ad for the Prehistoric Scenes kits:

([url]http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%202/Auroraad5.jpg[/url])


I had numerous Saber Tooth Cats, Pterodactyls, an Allosaurus, a Mammoth, a Cave Bear and a Neanderthal Man.  I loved these kits as a kid.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on October 30, 2015, 08:42:31 PM
I had numerous Saber Tooth Cats, Pterodactyls, an Allosaurus, a Mammoth, a Cave Bear and a Neanderthal Man.  I loved these kits as a kid.
Yes, the Prehistoric Scenes kits are boss. Many of us built them and played with them like toys. A few UMA members have turned those kits into fine dino art as posted in the Model Kits section. Very cool.  8)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: pylgrym on October 31, 2015, 01:40:12 PM
There are a couple really GOOD websites devoted at least in part to the playsets; one is hosted by PREHISTORIC TIMES contributor Randy Knol:
http://www.dinosaurcollectorsitea.com/companiesCollectables.html (http://www.dinosaurcollectorsitea.com/companiesCollectables.html)
'
PREHISTORIC TIMES magazine recently published an ad for a new "DREAMWISH" playset - custom - by Ron Lizorty called "DINOSAUR ISLAND" and of course I had to have one.

I am doing my own playsets and have a few on ebay now: http://www.ebay.com/itm/7-18-Marx-Prehistoric-Times-PlaySet-Homage-CAVE-WARS-Dinosaur-Tribute-/271972883022?hash=item3f52d8da4e:g:xX8AAOSwTapV5HB0 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/7-18-Marx-Prehistoric-Times-PlaySet-Homage-CAVE-WARS-Dinosaur-Tribute-/271972883022?hash=item3f52d8da4e:g:xX8AAOSwTapV5HB0)
'
pylgrym
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on October 31, 2015, 03:37:48 PM
Welcome, pylgrym.  :)

Please post some of your dino playsets and other dino items when you have the chance.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on October 31, 2015, 06:22:49 PM
Yes, show us what you've got!

 8)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on November 17, 2015, 06:41:12 PM
Here's a pic of the big, hollow, Ajax Prehistoric Mammals. These were never reissued like the dinos were, as far as I know, so they are pretty scarce these days.

(http://www.angelfire.com/biz/toysoldierhq/zajaxpremam.jpg)

And, here again are the much more common large Ajax hollow dinosaurs.

(http://www.angelfire.com/biz/toysoldierhq/zajaxbigdinos.jpg)

I believe the dinos were much more common than the prehistoric mammals in the '60s because I don't remember ever seeing the mammals back then and I bought several of the dinos at various dime stores and other toy outlets. On top of that the dinos were repopped by Tootsietoy in the '90s, so those are very plentiful, especially in the repop colors. The original '60s Ajax colors that I remember were White, Red, Blue, and Green.. any other color is probably a repop color, and some in those colors may be repops. The dinos turn up on eBay commonly, and the originals and repops seem to sell for about the same- $3-$6 each, or cheaper in groups. Sure, some sellers try to pass them off for $20 but just ignore that silliness and get 'em cheap. You won't have to wait long. The only hard-to-find one is the Stegosaurus with no missing back plates (those break off easily in play). I don't know a fair market value for the Ajax Prehistoric Mammals because I never see them offered.

Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on November 17, 2015, 07:41:52 PM
Here's a pic of the big, hollow, Ajax Prehistoric Mammals.

([url]http://www.angelfire.com/biz/toysoldierhq/zajaxpremam.jpg[/url])


Awwwww, they're sweet!

 8)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on November 21, 2015, 03:35:48 PM
I avoid promoting other people's auctions, but since these are so scarce I thought it might be of interest. Here's an eBay auction for a Giant Prehistoric Mountain Playset #4304 (Marx, 1977):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/121815126633?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/121815126633?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/qygAAOSweuxWR5dT/s-l1600.jpg)

This contains everything except an instruction sheet (which the set probably had). The box is a bit crunched, but it isn't bad for these oversized boxes. It has all five pieces of the scarce Marx Prehistoric Mountain terrain set in GRAY plastic, which is correct for this set. The playmat looks pretty decent. It has the 2 palm trees, the 2 ferns, and the correct 12 cavemen (plus an extra). A couple of the dinos may need to be replaced, and there are some extras. Those two cracked terrain pieces in brown are extras from the #3398 from 1971. Those should have been left out since they are worthless in that condition, and just muddy up the auction. The price may seem high to folks who don't collect this stuff, but considering that the more common Prehistoric Mountain sets from '74 and '75 should sell for around $500, or more, complete in nice condition, then this rarer version from '77 should be a great deal at $300 plus shipping. If I didn't already have the set I would be bidding on this.

From 1977 up until they went out of business in 1979, Marx was owned by a British company called Dunbee-Combex. During this period the playsets were downsized. Not many of these Giant Prehistoric Mountain Playsets were made, and very few survive today. You see the more common yellow/brown mountain sets come up on eBay fairly often, but this set with the gray terrain pieces is a rarity.

Here's a pic of mine set up:

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/GiantPrehistoricMountain4304new_zps5092db9d.jpg)

Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Wicked Lester on November 21, 2015, 06:06:20 PM
Here's a pic of the big, hollow, Ajax Prehistoric Mammals. These were never reissued like the dinos were, as far as I know, so they are pretty scarce these days.

([url]http://www.angelfire.com/biz/toysoldierhq/zajaxpremam.jpg[/url])

And, here again are the much more common large Ajax hollow dinosaurs.

([url]http://www.angelfire.com/biz/toysoldierhq/zajaxbigdinos.jpg[/url])

I believe the dinos were much more common than the prehistoric mammals in the '60s because I don't remember ever seeing the mammals back then and I bought several of the dinos at various dime stores and other toy outlets. On top of that the dinos were repopped by Tootsietoy in the '90s, so those are very plentiful, especially in the repop colors. The original '60s Ajax colors that I remember were White, Red, Blue, and Green.. any other color is probably a repop color, and some in those colors may be repops. The dinos turn up on eBay commonly, and the originals and repops seem to sell for about the same- $3-$6 each, or cheaper in groups. Sure, some sellers try to pass them off for $20 but just ignore that silliness and get 'em cheap. You won't have to wait long. The only hard-to-find one is the Stegosaurus with no missing back plates (those break off easily in play). I don't know a fair market value for the Ajax Prehistoric Mammals because I never see them offered.


 In the past I have had the dinos. Like to get them back. The mammals I have never even seen. Very cool. Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on November 24, 2015, 10:22:24 PM
I avoid promoting other people's auctions, but since these are so scarce I thought it might be of interest. Here's an eBay auction for a Giant Prehistoric Mountain Playset #4304 (Marx, 1977):

[url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/121815126633?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/121815126633?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT[/url])

This auction ended and someone got the #4304 for minimum bid. That's a pretty good deal for such a rare set.

In the description the seller listed the box as "poor", which is worse than it really is. Those large boxes for the Marx vertical playsets really took a beating because of their size and shape, and most surviving ones are probably as bad as this one is. I would call it fair condition because it has some problems, but it looks like all of the box is present (no missing flaps or chunks).

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ToQAAOSwMTZWR5dW/s-l1600.jpg)

I'm pretty sure I'm the only dino playset collector who regularly posts on UMA, so I doubt if the buyer is a UMAite. But, judging from the number of views this thread gets, there must be some dino collectors who check in sometimes from outside UMA. This is the only source of dino playset conversation that gets updated anywhere near regularly that I'm aware of on the web. If anyone knows of any others please post links.

If the buyer reads this thread, congrats. You picked up a real rarity there at a good price.  :)

Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on November 25, 2015, 09:59:18 AM
This auction ended and someone got the #4304 for minimum bid. That's a pretty good deal for such a rare set.

I agree!

 :)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: jimm on November 25, 2015, 10:57:26 AM
This is the only source of dino playset conversation that gets updated anywhere near regularly that I'm aware of on the web.


Glad you do. I know next to nothing of these sets, but they were around the neighborhood pals in the early 70s. Dad, being a Vet, bought Navarone for us IIRC.... Lotta fun
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on November 25, 2015, 12:56:17 PM
There are a couple really GOOD websites devoted at least in part to the playsets; one is hosted by PREHISTORIC TIMES contributor Randy Knol:
[url]http://www.dinosaurcollectorsitea.com/companiesCollectables.html[/url] ([url]http://www.dinosaurcollectorsitea.com/companiesCollectables.html[/url])
'
PREHISTORIC TIMES magazine recently published an ad for a new "DREAMWISH" playset - custom - by Ron Lizorty called "DINOSAUR ISLAND" and of course I had to have one.

I am doing my own playsets and have a few on ebay now: [url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/7-18-Marx-Prehistoric-Times-PlaySet-Homage-CAVE-WARS-Dinosaur-Tribute-/271972883022?hash=item3f52d8da4e:g:xX8AAOSwTapV5HB0[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/7-18-Marx-Prehistoric-Times-PlaySet-Homage-CAVE-WARS-Dinosaur-Tribute-/271972883022?hash=item3f52d8da4e:g:xX8AAOSwTapV5HB0[/url])
'
pylgrym

Please post pics of that Dinosaur Island custom playset when (if) you get the chance. I don't get Prehistoric Times magazine anymore, and I can't find anything about the Dinosaur Island custom on the web.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on November 25, 2015, 01:23:47 PM
Glad you do. I know next to nothing of these sets, but they were around the neighborhood pals in the early 70s. Dad, being a Vet, bought Navarone for us IIRC.... Lotta fun

That Marx Navarone Mountain Playset is pretty sweet.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wq8IfC2dZD4/U72iZ6pYg8I/AAAAAAAAG6E/leOrNT87WLo/s1600/Guns+of+Navarone+playset.jpg)

I limit my collecting to dinosaur and monster items due to space and cost, but if I did collect war playsets I would be all over a Navarone Mountain.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on November 26, 2015, 11:15:02 AM
There's a lot of really gorgeous sets featuring dinosaurs on this website:

Don Glut's Dinosaurs (http://www.donglutsdinosaurs.com/gallery-2-2/)

(http://donglutsdinosaurs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/enter-bedroom51-700x65212.jpg)

(http://donglutsdinosaurs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/enter-house-700x994.jpg)

 ;)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Jethro on November 27, 2015, 03:47:49 PM
Now that is who I would like to see play Wilma and Betty! 
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: jimm on November 30, 2015, 12:53:13 PM
How do these Dino toys entice women to disrobe? Inquiring minds want to know...
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: jimm on November 30, 2015, 12:56:59 PM


(https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/12240015_10206922581161628_8455651147234078560_n.jpg?oh=86e9751ebb5a45ecf7e9603a549e346a&oe=56F1421D)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on November 30, 2015, 02:06:55 PM
How do these Dino toys entice women to disrobe? Inquiring minds want to know...
Don Glut wrote and directed Dinosaur Valley Girls (1996), and a few other low budget flicks, back in the '90s and 2000s involving an abundance of female skin. When he shot those pics of his collection I guess he wanted to carry on the tradition of dinos and babes. Thanks, Don.  ;)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on December 01, 2015, 11:52:07 AM
How do these Dino toys entice women to disrobe? Inquiring minds want to know....

Dinos are just so cool that they prompt women to disrobe, that's all.

 :)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: bigbud on January 17, 2016, 06:29:54 PM
Finally have a Marx Prehistoric Set just about completed! This is a Series 1000 #3390 set which is one of the more common Marx dino playsets.  Thanks go to Horrorhunter for helping me track down info on what the set originally contained. I'm needing afew tan cavemen and acouple palm trees, but all the correct dinos are there and the colorful vacuum formed thin plastic terrain  .....

(http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd344/bigbud3/IMG_6977_zpsl6filhrt.jpg)

(http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd344/bigbud3/IMG_6973_zpsuzejnsvg.jpg)

(http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd344/bigbud3/IMG_6974_zpsp8dafdfc.jpg)

(http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd344/bigbud3/IMG_6975_zpsfb0dhduk.jpg)

(http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd344/bigbud3/IMG_6976_zpsnjxfkvuv.jpg)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on January 18, 2016, 03:17:35 AM
Great score, Bud. Nice box and vacu-form terrain piece. Those brick-red cavemen are hard to find, the tan ones are a more common complimentary set to the cream ones. The #3390 is the cornerstone of any Marx dino collection.

By your pics here are your extra pieces that weren't originally included in the #3390:

Smilodon
Struthiomimus
Moschops
Styracosaurus
Cream Caveman (duplicate "Firestarter")

Here are the pieces you yet need:

Booklet P-56-1
Large Double Palm Tree w/2 fronds (to replace the broken one)
Dead Tree
Large & Small Stumps
3-leaf Fern w/Base
Cream Caveman w/Rock Over Head
Brick-Red Caveman w/Spear
Brick-Red Caveman w/Rock Over head
Green Plateosaurus (set had 2 originally)
Green Dimetrodon (set had 2 originally)
Gray Plateosaurus (set had 2 originally)
Gray Dimetrodon (set had 2 originally)

Here are pics of mine with the original parts to help you compare and tell more about what you need.

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/Marx3390_1_zpsgm1fgwyf.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/Marx3390_2_zpsxdyxyrim.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/MarkBookletP561F_zps8b714868.jpg)



Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on January 18, 2016, 02:16:16 PM
The #3390 is the cornerstone of any Marx dino collection.

Be a cornerstone of any monster kid collection!

 ;)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on January 18, 2016, 07:20:22 PM
Picked up this box of Starlux dinos off eBay a few days ago.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/2GAAAOSwcBhWZHZH/s-l1600.jpg)

These are painted hard plastic and come from France. They were made from the '60s up through the '90s. I didn't have any Starlux in my collection before this because they usually are only offered one at a time and are a little pricey. Since I didn't have them growing up I never really went after any until I saw this boxed set. It's the first packaged Starlux dinos I ever saw. They were obtained very reasonably because it was an auction and I got lucky. I'm still a Marx/MPC guy at heart though.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on January 19, 2016, 09:46:24 AM
Nice paint job on those Starlux dinos!

 8)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: ramsey37 on January 19, 2016, 07:17:13 PM
I like that they included an icthyosaur in the set, you don't see many toy versions of that one.
George
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on January 19, 2016, 08:07:58 PM
Nice paint job on those Starlux dinos!

 8)
Yeah, they have a retro style that appeals to the Monsterkid (Dinokid) in many of us. I don't think I'll try to collect Starlux because they seem to be a bit expensive compared to Marx and MPC, but if I run across the odd auction for a lot of them I may take a shot. Never had 'em as a kid so they don't pack the same nostalgic punch that the Marx/MPC/Ajax/Lidos do. And, they don't have the scientifically accurate appeal of Carnegie Safari, Papo, or even Invicta.

Still, it's nice to have them represented in my collection, especially in the cool packaging (that seems to be a bit scarce).
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on January 26, 2016, 07:23:39 PM
Marx Prehistoric Mountain siting on evilBay: [url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/351564578555?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/351564578555?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT[/url])

([url]http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/R-wAAOSwT5tWMrha/s-l1600.jpg[/url])

At 300 bucks it isn't a bad deal. The 5 piece mountain terrain is nice, and undamaged examples of the 5-pc terrain set seem to sell for around $150-$200. It's only missing a couple of common dinos (there's even a red MPC Ceratogaulos thrown in), 7 common cavemen, 1 palm tree with frond(s), 1 other palm frond, 1 fern base, instruction sheet, and color booklet. The box is little more than trash and really has little if any value in that condition. If I were selling that set in person I would throw in the box for free. The playmat is rough, but this is the condition they usually show up in. I would only advocate cutting up a collectible box in an extreme situation since packaging is so important and valuable. But, this situation is pretty extreme. If it were mine I would cut up that crappy box to salvage whatever graphics I could and just store them stacked on a shelf. That box is certainly not displayable, and I wouldn't want to use it to store the pieces either. Nice boxes and paperwork are the hardest things to find with these sets. Maybe another incomplete example might net a decent box in future. It seems to cost $500-$600 or more to complete a nice example of one of these mountain sets currently. But, the sooner you get started the less you spend. Older high demand collectibles continue to rise in price, sometimes dramatically. These mountain sets have steadily gone up over the past few years due to supply and demand.

In order to get a complete playset a collector has to buy one or more incomplete examples and finish it out with the correct bits and pieces. If anyone is serious about this it pays to amass a stash of extra playset parts, and, of course, know what the set contained initially. The stash saves a lot of trouble and shipping costs having to buy things as you need them. And, you can always sell the extra pieces after you've finished your playsets. Since it takes years to finish several playsets, the extra pieces you've accumulated will probably bring a profit if listed correctly on eBay because this stuff seems to outpace inflation consistently.

Looks like this one sold for $300.00.

There is a SEALED one on eBay currently. I'm curious to see what it sells for since a complete opened one with a nice box should sell in the $500.00-$600.00 range. I've never seen a sealed Marx Prehistoric Mountain Set before. I would definitely throw in a bid or two if I didn't already have a nice example. Besides, if I bought a sealed one I couldn't resist the urge to open it, so I would end up with what I already have (with a little better box).  ;D

http://www.ebay.com/itm/311532605216?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/311532605216?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/QvQAAOSwGotWos3g/s-l1600.jpg)

Kind of hard to tell for sure if it's factory sealed (with BIG staples) on both ends by those pictures. I also see tape which would be redundant if it were stapled. Well, at least the box is pretty nice.  :-\
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: jimm on January 26, 2016, 10:46:07 PM
Very nice
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on January 27, 2016, 10:39:13 AM
Besides, if I bought a sealed one I couldn't resist the urge to open it, so I would end up with what I already have (with a little better box).  ;D

I'm with you. I'd find it very tough to leave a Marx playset unopened, because all the individual pieces are so much cooler than the box. I have no problem leaving a model kit sealed though, quite simply because the box art itself is much cooler in appearance than are the scattered individual parts

Kind of hard to tell for sure if it's factory sealed (with BIG staples) on both ends by those pictures. I also see tape which would be redundant if it were stapled. Well, at least the box is pretty nice.  :-\

Hmmmmm, tape, eh? Now why would that be necessary if the staples had never been removed and the box opened? I wonder....

 ???
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on January 27, 2016, 01:36:34 PM
I'm with you. I'd find it very tough to leave a Marx playset unopened, because all the individual pieces are so much cooler than the box. I have no problem leaving a model kit sealed though, quite simply because the box art itself is much cooler in appearance than are the scattered individual parts

Hmmmmm, tape, eh? Now why would that be necessary if the staples had never been removed and the box opened? I wonder....

 ???
The only way I would leave a playset sealed is if it were in a nice displayable window box, which would be the ideal way to have a sealed set. Now if I were rich (which certainly isn't the case) I might leave a regular boxed playset sealed if I already had that set opened and complete in a nice box. But, it would still be difficult to fight the urge to open it just to see if there was a variation of pieces included.

I agree about leaving original model kits sealed. Enjoy the nice box art, and knowing you have a piece of sealed history, and buy a repro kit to open and build.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on January 27, 2016, 04:29:00 PM
The #3390 is the cornerstone of any Marx dino collection.

([url]http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/Marx3390_1_zpsgm1fgwyf.jpg[/url])


Admittedly I might be tempted to keep a M.I.B. #3390 sealed simply because the box veritably screams late fifties monster kid goodness.

Loose though I'd be tempted to combine it with Comanche Pass in a thrilling diorama. Cowboys and Indians versus prehistoric beasts! Talk about wild! Or how about the Ben Hur playset with the Marx dinos? Imagine an ultra-disciplined unit of Roman soldiers facing down a horde of savage bloodthirsty prehistoric beasts! Wow! Now that would be kid grade entertainment.

 8)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on January 27, 2016, 04:32:50 PM
I like that they included an icthyosaur in the set, you don't see many toy versions of that one.


(http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/wiredscience/2013/01/08_Ichthyosaurus-2-Final.jpg)

Not surprising. Ichthyosaurs are not often seen in the wild these days either.

 :(



Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on January 27, 2016, 07:10:18 PM
Loose though I'd be tempted to combine it with Fort Apache in a thrilling diorama. Cowboys and Indians versus prehistoric beasts! Talk about wild!

Dinosaurs in the Wild West is a super-cool subgenre.  ;)

(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d0/ab/11/d0ab11d7c7ede2d97cfb7504d6c7f585.jpg)

BTW, I have a copy of this Valley Of Gwangi coloring book from the days of Dinokidhood, and it's in nearly new condition except for the first page being neatly colored. Not sure what happened there, but it must have been accidently put away before I could color it through and wear it out. Bad for kid-me, but good for collector-me.  :)

I also had this Turok Giant when I was a kid, as well as many other issues.

(http://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/n_iv/600/841999.jpg)

Sadly, I never got around to replacing my Turoks, and currently have only one original ish in my collection.  :(
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on January 28, 2016, 01:10:09 PM
Hmmmm, a Turok Giant? That's a comic that would fit into my collection very nicely.

 8)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on February 06, 2016, 11:32:03 PM
I ordered this DVD ROM of Dinosauriana from Joe Demarco a few days ago.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/x3sAAOSw~gRVwpXK/s-l1600.jpg)

It contains a ton of information on dino toys and figures from every era. There is no print version, just DVD or download. I found it certainly worth the $25 shipped price. I was a little disappointed that it didn't give a set by set contents breakdown with pictures of each Marx and MPC dinosaur playset, but since it covers everything in the way of dinosaur figures I guess that would be a bit beyond the scope reasonably expected. I already knew everything about Marx and MPC dinosaur toys listed in Dinosauriana, plus a bit more. I'm still anticipating that Dinosaur Playsets book by Jeff Pfeiffer to hopefully expand knowledge of Marx and MPC prehistorics, but it's taking so long I wonder if we'll ever actually see it.

Dinosauriana states that the big toothy hollow 1960s "dimestore dinos" were never made by Ajax, but by Tootsietoy from the beginning. It makes sense that would be the case since the "dimestore dinos" never looked anything like the other Ajax product, and I know Tootsietoy was active in the '60s because as a kid I bought several of their packs of diecast cars. So, Tootsietoy it is for the somewhat mysterious "dimestore dinos", and the similar Prehistoric Beasts as well.

Here, again, is a pic of my Tootsietoy dinos (plus a couple of Lindes)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/AjaxLargeampLindeDinos_zpsjkx3yrtt.jpg)

And, a pic of the Tootsietoy Prehistoric Beasts, which many people believe to be by Ajax.

(http://www.angelfire.com/biz/toysoldierhq/zajaxpremam.jpg)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on February 08, 2016, 01:27:11 PM
I'm still anticipating that Dinosaur Playsets book by Jeff Pfeiffer to hopefully expand knowledge of Marx and MPC prehistorics, but it's taking so long I wonder if we'll ever actually see it.

You're not the only one!

 8)

Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on February 10, 2016, 02:15:24 AM
Best Plastics Corporation produced 14 different dinosaurs and 2 cavemen as well as the 5 monster figures most collectors call "Palmer flats". These were sold in 5 cent Horror Monsters Grab Bags in the 1960s (probably '64-'68) in various dime stores, food stores, and quick marts. Below is a pic of my Best Plastics collection so far.

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/BestFigures_zpsxylia5ma.jpg)

The 2 green dinos, red truck, and "Sourlets" candy on the left came in the Horror Monsters Grab Bag in the center. To the right are 7 more Best dinos I've accumulated from eBay purchases. The bottom row contains the 5 "Palmer flats" monsters and both Best Cavemen. The pink Creature and Wolfman were purchased in a pink set of 7 from a Toy Shop ad in the '90s from M&J Variety as I recall. The 3 red monsters and 2 cavemen I have left from childhood.

According to Dinosauriana by Joe Demarco the Horror Monsters Grab Bags contained 2 Best dinos, an additional toy (sometimes a Best "Palmer flat" monster), and candy. Some collectors seem to remember the Grab Bags containing 2 monsters with a bonus toy and candy. Maybe the Grab Bags contained both combinations, I can't remember for sure. Also, the Grab Bags were sold open to allow the customer to inspect the contents. Trust ran much higher in those days.

Best monsters and cavemen turn up nowadays in blue and pink much more commonly than the other colors. I believe there was a warehouse find of these colors in the '90s which would explain the Toy Shop ads and cheap prices in the '90s. Best dinosaurs on the other hand are pretty scarce and are avidly sought after by certain collectors (like me). These were the cheapest of the cheap back in the day and kids mangled and tossed them while keeping the nicer looking Marx and MPC figures. The nostalgia factor is very high with these little figures which, coupled with the scarcity, drives demand (and price). I hope to someday complete the set of 14 Best Plastics dinos. Gonna be tough.. but fun.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on February 10, 2016, 08:55:26 PM
Best Plastics Corporation produced 14 different dinosaurs and 2 cavemen as well as the 5 monster figures most collectors call "Palmer flats". These were sold in 5 cent Horror Monsters Grab Bags in the 1960s (probably '64-'68) in various dime stores, food stores, and quick marts.

I never saw those in London, Ontario! I would have been on them big time!

 :o

Best dinosaurs on the other hand are pretty scarce and are avidly sought after by certain collectors (like me). These were the cheapest of the cheap back in the day and kids mangled and tossed them while keeping the nicer looking Marx and MPC figures. The nostalgia factor is very high with these little figures which, coupled with the scarcity, drives demand (and price). I hope to someday complete the set of 14 Best Plastics dinos. Gonna be tough.. but fun.

I can understand why you want them. They're hard-core kid stuff. Good luck! I hope you score them all.

 :)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Mike Scott on February 10, 2016, 09:50:33 PM
The pink Creature and Wolfman were purchased in a pink set of 7 from a Toy Shop ad in the '90s from M&J Variety as I recall.

They still sell them, as well as a red set. $10 ea. set, I believe.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on February 10, 2016, 11:25:01 PM
They still sell them, as well as a red set. $10 ea. set, I believe.
Yes. They offer them in red, pink, and yellow. The plastic is shiny and the red ones they currently offer have that slightly translucent look instead of the flat finish plastic from the '60s. I wonder if the mold grouping with the monsters and cavemen was repopped at some point, or if these that are popping up now and back in the '90s are all from warehouse finds. Doesn't seem like the sort of thing that would be repopped, but south of the border they're reissuing all manner of cheap toys, and have been for years.

The Best dinos don't turn up commonly like the monsters/cavemen. The dinos are hard to find, as are the monsters/cavemen in the older plastic. I've been searching for the dinos for awhile and only have half the set with a couple of duplicates.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on February 18, 2016, 04:25:10 PM
Here's a slice of '60s Dinokid charm, the complete Timmee Small Mold Group MOC.

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/TimmeeMOC_zpsaazvshhy.jpg)

The cavemen are named "Mimbo, Bimbo, and Sam".  :laugh:

The dinos are as follows (L-R, Top-Bottom): Seymouria, Dimetrodon, Tyrannosaurus, Duck Billed Aquatic, Pteranodon, Brontosaurus, Stegosaurus, Palaeoscincus, Triceratops. The "Duck Billed Aquatic" is actually a Plateosaurus. The "Pteranodon" is actually a Rhamphorhynchus. Most of these dinos are standard toy-fare, but the Seymouria and Palaeoscincus are unusual choices, and pretty cool.

It's hard to believe any of these even survive with packaging intact. The seller had this at BIN $12.99 and I clicked quickly. I scoured the packaging for a date but there are none to be found. I'm thinking '63-'65. I probably bought one or more of these exact same packages when I was a young Dinokid. Real piece of '60s Dinokid history here.  :)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on February 24, 2016, 01:47:28 PM
It's hard to believe any of these even survive with packaging intact.... Real piece of '60s Dinokid history here.

Indeed! Forgotten old store stock probably.


The seller had this at BIN $12.99 and I clicked quickly. I'm thinking '63-'65. I probably bought one or more of these exact same packages when I was a young Dinokid.

Congratulations! Fabulous score, especially for a piece you had as a kid!

 8)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: japfeif on March 05, 2016, 04:56:11 PM
Not really concerning the dinos.

If Pfeiffer ever gets that book out it should have some good info. If he's done his homework it should be the go-to source on the subject. Maybe he'll get it published before we all keel over of old age.

Lol....actually, it was starting to look like we ALL may drop dead of old age before this thing ever got completed! As an update, the book has been actually finished for the better part of a year, but I ran into major hurdles at the publishing end of things (way too much to get into here!), but the final proof was submitted to me just this past week and okayed.  If all goes according to plan, the book should FINALLY be ready for printing and release! The problem was I decided at the last minute to include a checklist of the contents of each playset covered in the book, and the formatting of this section was such that it apparently gave the publishers fits and they never could get it right (either font would be wrong, indented areas not indented, bullets deleted, etc) and I was just about to give up on it & omit this section when they finally got it right!
So it should be a go from here on and smooth sailing and the book available very soon (a month or two they said).

Sorry for all the delays....hopefully everyone will find that it was worth the wait!
Jeff
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on March 05, 2016, 05:00:20 PM
Lol....actually, it was starting to look like we ALL may drop dead of old age before this thing ever got completed! As an update, the book has been actually finished for the better part of a year, but I ran into major hurdles at the publishing end of things (way too much to get into here!), but the final proof was submitted to me just this past week and okayed.  If all goes according to plan, the book should FINALLY be ready for printing and release! The problem was I decided at the last minute to include a checklist of the contents of each playset covered in the book, and the formatting of this section was such that it apparently gave the publishers fits and they never could get it right (either font would be wrong, indented areas not indented, bullets deleted, etc) and I was just about to give up on it & omit this section when they finally got it right!
So it should be a go from here on and smooth sailing and the book available very soon (a month or two they said).

Sorry for all the delays....hopefully everyone will find that it was worth the wait!
Jeff
Excellent news. And, you're right, that checklist for every playset is a must. So, how much will it be and where will we be able to order it from?
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: japfeif on March 06, 2016, 07:27:55 PM
Excellent news. And, you're right, that checklist for every playset is a must. So, how much will it be and where will we be able to order it from?

Well my understanding is that for the first couple weeks it will only be available thru the Authorhouse website (Authorhouse.com), but then it will be available thru the usual outlets like Amazon, Barnes & Noble, etc.

Retail price has not been finalized yet........the publishers actually set the price & the author can tweak it however they see fit. For me, it was important that it remain affordable and at the lowest retail price feasible. Please don't quote me on this, but I am negotiating for somewhere in the $30s, maybe low $40s. Due to the huge amount of pictures. and the fact that all are in full color (I thought color photos were critical, since as you know color plays a HUGE part in correctly being able to ID different figures & such, and one of the issues I've seen in other source concerning the dino playsets is seeing pics published in black & white...so much just gets lost), the cost was initially projected much higher ($70+) but I have fought to keep it as low as possible.
As I said, don't quote me on it, as you never know what will happen at the end of the day, but I am hoping to keep it as I said somewhere around the $30-$40 range.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on March 06, 2016, 08:41:47 PM
Well my understanding is that for the first couple weeks it will only be available thru the Authorhouse website (Authorhouse.com), but then it will be available thru the usual outlets like Amazon, Barnes & Noble, etc.

Retail price has not been finalized yet........the publishers actually set the price & the author can tweak it however they see fit. For me, it was important that it remain affordable and at the lowest retail price feasible. Please don't quote me on this, but I am negotiating for somewhere in the $30s, maybe low $40s. Due to the huge amount of pictures. and the fact that all are in full color (I thought color photos were critical, since as you know color plays a HUGE part in correctly being able to ID different figures & such, and one of the issues I've seen in other source concerning the dino playsets is seeing pics published in black & white...so much just gets lost), the cost was initially projected much higher ($70+) but I have fought to keep it as low as possible.
As I said, don't quote me on it, as you never know what will happen at the end of the day, but I am hoping to keep it as I said somewhere around the $30-$40 range.
Thank you for the info. As long as it's less than $50 then I'm definitely a customer. Even dinosaur nuts like me resent being gouged, so it's fortunate you managed to steer them away from that $70+ figure which many would view as excessive.

By posting updates here you get the info out to many potential customers I would think. From what I've seen over the past couple of years I don't believe there are many playset collectors who post here on UMA, but judging from the number of views this thread gets I know many people do keep up with it (probably more non-members who are dino collectors and found the thread through a Google search). As you know there just aren't many places on the web where you can find info on dinosaur playsets, and this is the only place I'm aware of that is actually updated with any frequency. Dinosaur playset collectors represent a small niche market, and I hope you sell enough books to make it worth all the working and waiting you've endured.

I eagerly await your book.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on March 07, 2016, 11:22:03 AM
So it should be a go from here on and smooth sailing and the book available very soon (a month or two they said).

Retail price has not been finalized yet.......

As I said, don't quote me on it, as you never know what will happen at the end of the day, but I am hoping to keep it as I said somewhere around the $30-$40 range.

Yay!

 8)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on March 08, 2016, 11:28:43 AM
I also had this Turok Giant when I was a kid, as well as many other issues.

([url]http://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/n_iv/600/841999.jpg[/url])

Sadly, I never got around to replacing my Turoks, and currently have only one original ish in my collection.  :(


Here's another caveman who belongs in this thread!

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/Comics/19-05-201363526PM_zps1f98c4f6.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/Balticprince/media/Comics/19-05-201363526PM_zps1f98c4f6.jpg.html)

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/Comics/19-05-201363533PM_zpsf588a6ec.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/Balticprince/media/Comics/19-05-201363533PM_zpsf588a6ec.jpg.html)

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/Comics/19-05-201363541PM_zpsab677e56.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/Balticprince/media/Comics/19-05-201363541PM_zpsab677e56.jpg.html)

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/Comics/19-05-201363553PM_zpsf1eaa602.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/Balticprince/media/Comics/19-05-201363553PM_zpsf1eaa602.jpg.html)

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/Comics/Anthro4.jpg) (http://media.photobucket.com/user/Balticprince/media/Comics/Anthro4.jpg.html)

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/Comics/19-05-201363602PM_zps587eb230.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/Balticprince/media/Comics/19-05-201363602PM_zps587eb230.jpg.html)

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/Comics/Anthro6.jpg) (http://media.photobucket.com/user/Balticprince/media/Comics/Anthro6.jpg.html)

 8)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets book
Post by: japfeif on March 12, 2016, 11:00:33 AM
Yay!

 8)

Hi all! as an update, book has been finalized, cover in place, it has left the publishers and is at the printers now. Assuming no snags at this point, they said the book could potentially be available for order as soon as 10-15 working days! Will keep you updated. Retail price was settled at $44.99.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on March 31, 2016, 11:04:05 PM
Here's a very cool ad that appeared in the October 1958 issue of DC's Fox and the Crow:

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/Comics/Comics001/Mar520003_zpsftvbxtm9.jpg)

I mean how could anybody resist seven gigantic dinosaurs with genuine toss-up feet action for the low price of $1.00 plus postage?

 8)

Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on April 05, 2016, 02:10:41 PM
Here's an interesting video:

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-2mQCjxGEY#)

 :)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: ZeMastor on April 05, 2016, 02:45:17 PM
Here's a very cool ad that appeared in the October 1958 issue of DC's Fox and the Crow:

([url]http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/Comics/Comics001/Mar520003_zpsftvbxtm9.jpg[/url])

I mean how could anybody resist seven gigantic dinosaurs with genuine toss-up feet action for the low price of $1.00 plus postage?

 8)


This is hilarious. I was recently reading Kirk Demarais' book "Mail Order Mysteries" and this very same ad was pictured, along with what you REALLY got for your $1.00!!!  ;D

Should I spoil the suspense?
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on April 06, 2016, 02:25:12 PM
Should I spoil the suspense?

Yes, please do! And show us a picture of the book as well and whatever other little bits of it you're so inclined.

 :)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: ZeMastor on April 06, 2016, 03:33:41 PM
Yes, please do! And show us a picture of the book as well and whatever other little bits of it you're so inclined.

 :)


*SPOILERS!!!!*

Scroll down

http://gizwizbiz.squarespace.com/daily_giz_wiz_gadgets/2009/9/24/another-trip-to-the-mail-order-rip-off-corner-of-dicks-gadge.html (http://gizwizbiz.squarespace.com/daily_giz_wiz_gadgets/2009/9/24/another-trip-to-the-mail-order-rip-off-corner-of-dicks-gadge.html)

Unfortunately, I don't have Kirk Demarais' book right now... I had to (reluctantly) give it back to its owner, but I can get it again if I need to. His page on the "gigantic dinosaurs" was just like the link above. Hah hah hah!

Kirk's regular fun blog is here:

http://secretfunspot.blogspot.com/ (http://secretfunspot.blogspot.com/)

It took me several days to go through all of his blog. Really great stuff.

Not to be missed:

Johnson Smith Company Horror Record:

http://secretfunspot.blogspot.com/search?q=horror+record (http://secretfunspot.blogspot.com/search?q=horror+record)
Click the YouTube link for a horror record/Eerie magazine treat!

Moon Monster!
From the old comic book ad for the "Monster/Horror Fan Club"

http://secretfunspot.blogspot.com/search?q=Moon+Monster (http://secretfunspot.blogspot.com/search?q=Moon+Monster)



Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets book
Post by: japfeif on April 14, 2016, 07:44:08 PM
Hi! Sometime ago I posted that I was finishing up my book on the prehistoric playsets of Marx, MPC, & related companies. I am pleased to announce that the book is finished and available now.

"Dinosaur Playsets: An Illustrated Guide to the Prehistoric Playsets of Marx and MPC"

Fully illustrated with over 190 color photos of every major playsets put out by Marx & MPC, and also chapters on the playsets from companies that used the original figure molds (Toy Street, Superior, etc.) or close copies (Winneco, etc.).
It can be purchased thru Authorhouse.com, Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and the usual outlets. Retail price is $44.99. However, for a limited time, I am offering an Author's Promotion Sale directly thru me for $38.00 + $3.00 s/h. Payment can be sent via PayPal to japfeif(*at*)aol.com. (Of course, this message board substituted (*at*) for the regular "at" symbol).

Just shoot me an email  requesting an invoice and I will get one out to you ASAP!

This is limited to 50 copies so act now for the special offer!
The book is also available as an e-book for $6.99.
here is the ISBN number, you can enter it in the Amazon search feature to see some pics of the book and decided if you may be interested.

It's currently available just thru a third party seller (um...me!), so I am able to sell it for a few dollars less than the Amazon price!
1504913744
Thanks all!
Jeff Pfeiffer
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on April 14, 2016, 09:32:28 PM
Glad to see that it's finally available. I ordered a copy via PayPal. I checked it out on Amazon and it looks to be best source of info by far for this very specialized collector's niche. Anyone who collects Marx and MPC dinos should have a copy of this. You never know how long something this specialized will stay in print.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: japfeif on April 14, 2016, 10:09:51 PM
Thanks for the kind words Michael! Your copy is packaged & ready to ship tomorrow!
Jeff

(http://i.imgur.com/9kZ6V7gm.jpg)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on April 18, 2016, 03:43:18 PM
I received the Dinosaur Playsets book today and it looks fantastic to this Dinokid! I'm looking forward to poring over it in the coming days, and it will be a great information source for Marx and MPC Prehistorics. Best source of info available for this narrow avenue of collecting, and highly recommended.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51v66Ht8HqL._SX385_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg)

Jeff even personally inscribed my copy. Thanks, Jeff.  :)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: japfeif on April 21, 2016, 06:50:34 AM
You're very welcome Michael! I hope you enjoy the book! And very much appreciate the kind words!
J
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on June 08, 2016, 08:56:21 PM
Got this souvenir pamphlet from a eBay seller for an attraction called Prehistoric Forest in southern Michigan.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/T-UAAOSw9k5XP69e/s-l1600.jpg)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/urEAAOSwxj5XP69o/s-l1600.jpg)

I like to collect brochures from different dino attractions. They make good background items for my dino figure shelves, and tell the history of Dinokid attractions. This particular one is no longer in operation according to the seller, but may be coming back.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: billyatom on June 19, 2016, 08:49:37 AM
Just bought the Marx 1971 set for $10 yesterday at an estate sale!  I'm not sure if it's complete but still has the booklet, instructions, and paper bags.  Excellent box too!
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on June 19, 2016, 02:09:25 PM
Just bought the Marx 1971 set for $10 yesterday at an estate sale!  I'm not sure if it's complete but still has the booklet, instructions, and paper bags.  Excellent box too!

Here's a link to the posting of my #3398 (1971): http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=23582.msg438186#msg438186 (http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=23582.msg438186#msg438186)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/Marx3398_1971_1_zps49baecc6.jpg)

This is my Prehistoric Play Set #3398 (Marx, 1971). It is the most common Marx Prehistoric Playset and the first one featuring prehistoric animals made from the new waxy looking "Heritage" type plastic. Supposedly the plastic was easier to mold, and it certainly gave more uniform colors. Most collectors prefer the older lead based plastic for the variety of colors and marbled patterns. The newer dinosaurs looked rather bland with them all being the exact same shade of mint green or light gray. Likewise, the new cavemen were all the same shade of brown.

Marx #3398 (1971 version) CONTENTS:

1 3-piece Terrain Set w/cave, rock arch, and pond in brown

1 Revised Mold Group (PL-977) 1/2 in mint green, 1/2 in light gray (8 dinos)

1 2nd Series Mold Group (PL-1083) 1/2 in mint green, 1/2 in light gray (8 dinos/mammals)

1 Medium Mold Group (PL-750) in mint green (6 dinos)

2 Small Mold Groups (PL-755-7) in light gray (7 X 2= 14 dinos)

36 Dinosaurs/Prehistoric Mammals Total

2 Sets of 6 Cavemen (12 total)

4 Palm Trees & 4 Ferns

4 Terrain Clips

20 Page Revised Booklet (P-1311R)

Instruction Sheet (P-1822R)

Even though this is the most common Marx Prehistoric Playset it's still difficult to complete. I had to buy three of these things off eBay several years ago and then add pieces to get a complete set. The box is usually trashed when it's even present, and the revised booklet is a little difficult to find at all, let alone in nice condition. The instruction sheet and clips are pretty scarce. These usually sell mostly complete in fairly bad condition for $100-$150. A nice complete one should bring at least twice that.

Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on July 01, 2016, 06:41:43 PM
Here's a carded set of Marx dinos that brought in the big bucks on eBay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Marx-Dinosaurs-Prehistoric-Monsters-card-3-Metallic-Green-/222164899307?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=8uWcWgvJT7S5JYWXcbJKxuajGdw%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Marx-Dinosaurs-Prehistoric-Monsters-card-3-Metallic-Green-/222164899307?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=8uWcWgvJT7S5JYWXcbJKxuajGdw%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/6qYAAOSwmtJXbX9J/s-l1600.jpg)

I was poised to bid on this but at $736 the bids blew way past what I'm willing to pay. The price doesn't surprise me though. This carded set has THREE metallic green Marx dinos, and it's in great condition to boot. I've only ever seen two metallic greens on one card and that's extremely rare. I wanted this bad... but not that bad. Congrats to the new owner. It's a real gem!
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Rockshasa on July 01, 2016, 10:24:37 PM
Horrorhunter, I don't know if you're just into vintage dinosaur stuff alone or into any new stuff, but I saw these…you might be interested in them???

https://beasts-of-the-mesozoic-raptor-series-action-figure.backerkit.com/hosted_preorders (https://beasts-of-the-mesozoic-raptor-series-action-figure.backerkit.com/hosted_preorders)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on July 01, 2016, 11:29:14 PM
Horrorhunter, I don't know if you're just into vintage dinosaur stuff alone or into any new stuff, but I saw these…you might be interested in them???

https://beasts-of-the-mesozoic-raptor-series-action-figure.backerkit.com/hosted_preorders (https://beasts-of-the-mesozoic-raptor-series-action-figure.backerkit.com/hosted_preorders)
I mostly collect the Marx/MPC stuff but I do have some Carnegie Safari and Papo from a few years ago. Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on July 08, 2016, 02:43:00 PM
I received this Best Plastic Corp. Triceratops from an eBay seller.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/bVcAAOSwMNxXU3MP/s-l1600.jpg)

I only need 3 more Best prehistoric figures to complete the set of 16. I still need a Smilodon, Iguanodon, and Ankylosaurus. These things are as tough to dig up as real fossils.  ;D
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on July 16, 2016, 05:37:03 PM
I purchased this set of small Diener dinos from an eBay seller very inexpensively. Some of these are quite scarce.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Q1IAAOSwXeJXdSFT/s-l1600.jpg)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on July 18, 2016, 03:30:31 PM
I received this Best Plastic Corp. Triceratops from an eBay seller.

([url]http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/bVcAAOSwMNxXU3MP/s-l1600.jpg[/url])

I only need 3 more Best prehistoric figures to complete the set of 16. I still need a Smilodon, Iguanodon, and Ankylosaurus. These things are as tough to dig up as real fossils.  ;D


Handsome fellow!

I purchased this set of small Diener dinos from an eBay seller very inexpensively. Some of these are quite scarce.

([url]http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Q1IAAOSwXeJXdSFT/s-l1600.jpg[/url])


I like the ultra-realistic colours!

 8)

Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on December 29, 2016, 05:43:55 PM
I've been working on my Turok collection of late. I still need 8 issues of the 130 issue run. Here are a few scans:

#1 (Four Color #596) (1954)
(http://oi63.tinypic.com/al6yqw.jpg)

The next two issues are faves that I owned a copy of as a kid.
#38 (1964)
(http://oi66.tinypic.com/2nqvc4x.jpg)

#58 (1967)
(http://oi67.tinypic.com/2rxw6eb.jpg)

#115 (1978) This is one of the two 48 page issues when Western raised the price to 50 cents (the other being #114).
(http://oi66.tinypic.com/24glf90.jpg)

Giant #1 (1966) (one shot that reprints several stories) I had one of these when I was a kid, one of my favorite all-time comics.
(http://oi65.tinypic.com/4szp5j.jpg)

French version #4 (1973)
(http://oi64.tinypic.com/xglj5w.jpg)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on December 30, 2016, 10:43:39 AM
I've been working on my Turok collection of late.

A noble endeavour to be sure!


 8)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Mike Scott on December 30, 2016, 11:20:57 AM
The next two issues are faves that I owned a copy of as a kid.

Great covers! Love 'em both!
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on January 17, 2017, 04:12:38 PM
Here's a rare listing for a Best Plastics dino that was included in the Horror Monsters Grab Bags.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/tgUAAOSwo4pYTYut/s-l1600.jpg)


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Best-Plastic-Struthiomimus-Dinosaur-1960s-Horror-Monsters-Grab-Bag-Cracker-Jacks-/322390077484?hash=item4b0ff2302c:g:tgUAAOSwo4pYTYut (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Best-Plastic-Struthiomimus-Dinosaur-1960s-Horror-Monsters-Grab-Bag-Cracker-Jacks-/322390077484?hash=item4b0ff2302c:g:tgUAAOSwo4pYTYut)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on January 17, 2017, 04:23:39 PM
Here's an eBay pic of a couple of variations of Lido prehistoric beasts that were given away in Nabisco cereals around 1960. I have the regular Lidos, and I bought these because they have a loop like a vending machine charm. Not sure if these were actually sold in vending machines because of their size-- the Smilodon is over 3" long.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/KwwAAOSw-0xYVJph/s-l1600.jpg)

I've seen pictures of these charm variants of the Lido/Nabisco prehistoric beasts but these are the first ones I've added to my collection. If anyone has any info on these please post it or send me a PM. Thanks.  :)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on January 19, 2017, 10:04:08 AM
I have the regular Lidos, and I bought these because they have a loop like a vending machine charm. Not sure if these were actually sold in vending machines because of their size-- the Smilodon is over 3" long.

I'm not sure that vending machines that could have handled a 3" figure even existed in 1960. Plus a machine dispensing figures of that size would have had to be a dime machine, while the market at the time could bear no more than nickel kids' novelty vending machines and even a nickel was stretching it.

 :-\
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on January 19, 2017, 03:53:07 PM
I'm not sure that vending machines that could have handled a 3" figure even existed in 1960. Plus a machine dispensing figures of that size would have had to be a dime machine, while the market at the time could bear no more than nickel kids' novelty vending machines and even a nickel was stretching it.

 :-\
Yeah, they seem too big for regular gumball machines of the time. And yet they have the "gumball charm" loop so I can't figure out how they were marketed. The Looped Lidos don't show up very often and there doesn't seem to be much info on them.

 :-\
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on January 30, 2017, 10:28:15 PM
I'm still working on the Dell/Gold Key Turok run. Today I received Golden Comics Digest #31 in FN condition. Here's the eBay pic:

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/WSIAAOSw2xRYeodh/s-l500.jpg)

That was the only issue of GCD that featured Turok so now I only need 3 issues of the Turok title to have the full run- 4, 7, and 8. I need to upgrade a couple more but with those three I'll at least have every issue represented of the 130 issues of the regular title, the Giant, and the Digest. Onward and upward.  :)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on January 31, 2017, 09:05:28 AM
I'm still working on the Dell/Gold Key Turok run. Today I received Golden Comics Digest #31 in FN condition. Here's the eBay pic:

That Golden Comics Digest looks really nice for a FN!

 8)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on January 31, 2017, 04:59:33 PM
That Golden Comics Digest looks really nice for a FN!

 8)
Yes, I agree. The seller had it listed as FN but when I inspected it in person it looks more like FN+ (6.5). Of course, most dealers would call it VF or better but you know how that song and dance goes.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Palifan on January 31, 2017, 07:31:24 PM
A friend of mine sold this dinosaur set this week over in the UK - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Chivers-Jelly-How-the-World-Began-The-Age-of-Dinosaurs-1977-Inpro-Vintage-Set-/232214292637?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMESELX%3AIT&nma=true&si=cRI6E4or2W0fovK64pfWnjJ00Os%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Chivers-Jelly-How-the-World-Began-The-Age-of-Dinosaurs-1977-Inpro-Vintage-Set-/232214292637?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMESELX%3AIT&nma=true&si=cRI6E4or2W0fovK64pfWnjJ00Os%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc)

I remember having a few of these growing up and never knew where they came from so it was nice to find out. I could have picked them up but let them pass due to funds at the moment but thought I'd share what was on offer in the UK during the late 70's.

Ian
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on February 04, 2017, 03:11:14 PM
Picked up a couple more Best Plastics Corporation dino flats from an eBay seller:

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/amkAAOSw9GhYhrgM/s-l1600.jpg)

The Iguanodon is a nondescript little thing but I needed it to complete the collection. The Trachodon is a weird shade of slightly translucent pink and is a duplicate that was in the same auction listing.

Just need an Ankylosaurus and Smilodon to complete the set of 14. When (if?) I complete it I'll post a pic of them all with duplicates and my two Horror Monsters Grab Bags including contents.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on February 04, 2017, 03:29:12 PM
Just need an Ankylosaurus and Smilodon to complete the set of 14.

No collection is complete without a Smilodon or two!

 ;)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on February 13, 2017, 01:17:08 AM
Finally finished my Turok run. Here's a scan of my #3 from 1956. It's actually the first issue of Turok's own title. The first two appearances were in the Dell Four Color title.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/397/32832356916_835bae4e6d_b.jpg)

I still want to upgrade a couple of really low grade issues but I'm glad to have the run complete.  :)

I may eventually tackle the Forgotten War issues of DC's Star Spangled War Stories featuring dinosaurs as tank chomping monsters. But, that's a whole different mountain to climb. I just want to enjoy the view from Mount Turok for awhile.  ;)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on February 14, 2017, 01:26:39 PM
Finally finished my Turok run.

Yay, a fine achievement. Congratulations!

 :)

Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on February 14, 2017, 03:10:16 PM
Yay, a fine achievement. Congratulations!

 :)
Thank you.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on February 19, 2017, 12:15:12 AM
My friend Count Zero is hooking me up with a Best Plastics Ankylosaurus!

(https://i.imgflip.com/1jwnie.jpg)

He also threw in the Best Megatherium. Thanks, Andrew!

Now I'll just need a Best Smilodon to complete the set of 14 Best Plastics prehistoric animals. Those little critters are a beyotch to find.  ;D
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on February 19, 2017, 09:11:25 AM
Those little critters are a beyotch to find.  ;D

They're magnificent though so the effort is more than worthwhile!

 8)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on February 19, 2017, 02:46:37 PM
They're magnificent though so the effort is more than worthwhile!

 8)
It's ironic that the cheapest of the cheap has become some of the most sought-after dino toys. The Best Plastics figures are nearly-flat crudely sculpted toys based on the sculpts of Ajax and Marx product and sold in nickel grab bags. But, because of the combination of fond memories of the Horror Monsters Grab Bags and the scarcity of the Best prehistoric animal figures, they are now valued much more highly than the toys they were based on. The reason they are so scarce is because kids dismissed them back in the day as not worth taking care of the way they did their Marx and MPC dinos. Also, I'm sure there were many more dino figures produced by Marx, MPC, Ajax, and Timmee than by Best Plastics. That 14 figure Best Plastics set is tough to complete. Evidently there were warehouse finds of the Best monsters and cavemen which is why those are plentiful in the marketplace.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on March 01, 2017, 05:06:10 PM
These cavemen and MIP dinos arrived today from eBay seller Joe DeMarco:

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/TPUAAOSwB-1YneCw/s-l1600.jpg)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/GmcAAOSwtfhYnIB9/s-l1600.jpg)

The main reason I bought the cavemen lot is for the Best Plastics light blue caveman, and because it was dirt cheap. The Best caveman is the older flat plastic which I prefer over the newer shiny "Heritage" plastic. It's a dupe for me but I like the color. The others I'll throw into the stash and some of them may help me complete playsets down the road. The little bagged Timmee set dates back to the '70s probably (maybe the '60s). The header card says "Made In Hong Kong for Louis Greenberg & Sons Inc." and gives a N.Y. address. It also says "Mammals..." which is wrong  :laugh:. These have been available on eBay for years since evidently there was a warehouse find or three over the years. I've been wanting an example for my dino collection but sellers usually want to sell them in bulk or want too much for one. Joe sold this one for $4 and combined shipping with the caveman lot so this stuff was very inexpensive as it should be. Joe even threw in a newer MIP bag of tiny dinos I didn't have as a bonus. Joe's an old time dino collector and a good guy.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Wich2 on March 01, 2017, 05:30:47 PM
(Louis didn't know his mammals from his reptiles!)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on March 09, 2017, 05:09:29 PM
This carded Ajax set arrived today.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/WYUAAOSwx6pYrLEr/s-l1600.jpg)

The card art is from the mural by famed dino artist Rudolph Zallinger.

Probably '60s or maybe '70s, the back of the card has the look of age. Nice shape, unused, with price area blank. I now have carded examples of Marx, MPC, SDC, Timmee, Ajax, Starlux, and Jaru. This stuff gets harder to find all the time, especially in nice condition.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on March 10, 2017, 11:50:10 AM
Oh wow! Carded sets are king!

 8)

About how expensive was the Ajax to buy?

 ???

Would the Ajax be third after Marx and MPC when it comes to overall quality of the figures? Or would that be the Timmee figures?

 ???

Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on March 10, 2017, 12:17:34 PM
Oh wow! Carded sets are king!

 8)

About how expensive was the Ajax to buy?

 ???

Would the Ajax be third after Marx and MPC when it comes to overall quality of the figures? Or would that be the Timmee figures?

 ???

That Ajax carded set was probably around the same price as the Timmee carded set from my collection (39 cents):

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/TimmeeMOC_zpsaazvshhy.jpg)

Ajax and Timmee were about equal regarding quality. The Ajax figures were a bit larger, but the Timmees had more variety and cavemen. Both company's product were well below MPC in size, quality, and price. And, MPC was below Marx, though the MPC 2nd Series Mammals & Monsters are the equal of Marx and reputed to be sculpted by the same sculptor(s) who worked for Marx.

Even though Ajax, Timmee, Lido, Tootsietoy, and Best Plastics, dino figures are considered 2nd rate compared to Marx/MPC they still hold a fond place in the hearts of most Dinokids. It's all pieces of the tapestry that is the '60s/'70s Dinokid Experience.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on March 30, 2017, 06:31:17 PM
Finally finished upgrading the really crappy condition copies in my Turok run. Here are two that I bought from different eBay sellers over the past few days:

#10 VG+ (4.5)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/610AAOSwXYtYx0gD/s-l1600.jpg)

#17 VG (4.0)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/tpAAAOSwTuJYuunt/s-l1600.jpg)

Those two replaced copies in *ugh* FAIR (1.0) condition. Anyone familiar with comic book grading knows just how wretched a FR copy can be.  ;D

Now everything in the run is at least in the G (2.0) range, and most of them range from around VG for the early issues and FN-VF for the later issues. A few of the later issues are in high grade. Well, that finishes my quest to actively upgrade the Turok issues, but with comic collectors it never truly stops. I still have saved eBay searches for certain issues and if a really great deal for a nice upgrade presents itself I'll probably bite...like T-Rex.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on March 31, 2017, 12:02:07 PM
Well, that finishes my quest to actively upgrade the Turok issues, but with comic collectors it never truly stops. :laugh:

No, stop it never does!

 ;D
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Haunted hearse on April 06, 2017, 12:46:47 PM
That Ajax carded set was probably around the same price as the Timmee carded set from my collection (39 cents):

([url]http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b552/horrorhunter/TimmeeMOC_zpsaazvshhy.jpg[/url])

Ajax and Timmee were about equal regarding quality. The Ajax figures were a bit larger, but the Timmees had more variety and cavemen. Both company's product were well below MPC in size, quality, and price. And, MPC was below Marx, though the MPC 2nd Series Mammals & Monsters are the equal of Marx and reputed to be sculpted by the same sculptor(s) who worked for Marx.

Even though Ajax, Timmee, Lido, Tootsietoy, and Best Plastics, dino figures are considered 2nd rate compared to Marx/MPC they still hold a fond place in the hearts of most Dinokids. It's all pieces of the tapestry that is the '60s/'70s Dinokid Experience.

They say the set is unreakable.  I guess many of the plastic figures of the time smelled so bad, Tim-mee felt the need to state that theirs did not. :P
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on April 18, 2017, 08:29:14 AM
So did anybody here score a chocolate tyrannosaurus rex or other dinosaur over the weekend? You know something conveying the true spirit of Easter?

(http://www.li-lacchocolates.com/thumbnail.asp?file=assets/images/specialty%20molds/chocolate-tyrannosaurus-rex.jpg&maxx=482&maxy=362)

 ???
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on April 19, 2017, 09:11:28 AM
Are dragons a type of dinosaur?

 ???

If so, has anybody else seen Dragon Snot in vending machines?

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/General%20Album%203001/dragon-snot-2capsules-c53_zpscfkttjx0.jpg)

There's some in one of the vending machines at Ted Reeves Arena just across the way from my house. A whole capsule full for one measly doubloon!

 8)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on April 19, 2017, 11:58:55 AM
Dragons are creatures of fantasy and myth. Dinosaurs are scientifically proven to have actually existed. Though, sometimes the lines blur between myth and historical fact. You never know what paleontologists will unearth next. They keep changing "historical fact" as they dig up more fossils. Remember the "tail draggers" from the '60s that were accepted as fact? And, the Brontosaurus which was later understood to be an Apatosaurus skeleton with a Camarosaurus skull?

I still like Brontosaurus and tail dragging dinos. They may not be "fact" today, but they were when I was a kid, and the toys from the time reflect that. Also, Brontosaurus is still correct regarding the Marx, MPC, and other figures of the time. They're labeled as Brontosaurus and by god they are Brontosaurus.  ;)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on April 19, 2017, 12:29:00 PM
I still like Brontosaurus and tail dragging dinos. They may not be "fact" today, but they were when I was a kid, and the toys from the time reflect that.


My litmus test in this regard is whether you (or any person) continues to regard dimetrodons and plesiosaurs as dinosaurs despite paleontologists desperate attempts to retcon them off the list.

(http://www.infectedbyart.com/Images/Category_307/subcat_393/2408152226101.jpg)

Dragons are creatures of fantasy and myth. Dinosaurs are scientifically proven to have actually existed. Though, sometimes the lines blur between myth and historical fact. You never know what paleontologists will unearth next. They keep changing "historical fact" as they dig up more fossils.


There have been just too many eyewitness accounts of dragons to cavalierly dismiss them as creatures of fantasy and myth. The problem is of course that scientists are fixated on old bones to the exclusion of all else, and sadly an intact dragon skeleton has not yet been found.

 :-\

We could probably use Flower's input here. I understand that she's our resident expert on dragons.

 :)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Haunted hearse on April 19, 2017, 01:56:21 PM
My litmus test in this regard is whether you (or any person) continues to regard dimetrodons and plesiosaurs as dinosaurs despite paleontologists desperate attempts to retcon them off the list.

([url]http://www.infectedbyart.com/Images/Category_307/subcat_393/2408152226101.jpg[/url])


  (http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss267/Baronscrypt666/Horror%20History/journey%20lizard_zpsvxqk3o1b.jpg)
This photo is clear that Dinosaurs did exist.  Otherwise, how could we have this solid evidence?
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on April 19, 2017, 02:18:12 PM
Forsooth! Hard evidence indeed.

 cl:)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on April 19, 2017, 02:50:10 PM
  ([url]http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss267/Baronscrypt666/Horror%20History/journey%20lizard_zpsvxqk3o1b.jpg[/url])
This photo is clear that Dinosaurs did exist.  Otherwise, how could we have this solid evidence?

Wowzers!

Here's a dragon pic, sooo... I guess dragons ARE real!  :o

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/a8/cb/11/a8cb1177e4e3d1d8b638f84eb9605e4d.png)

 :D
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on May 03, 2017, 10:23:18 AM
Here are a couple of comic magazine ads for the Aurora Prehistoric Scenes kits that I lifted off the net:

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%202/Auroraad2.jpg)

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%202/Aurora3.jpg)

And here's a Captain Company ad from a Warren magazine:

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%202/Auroraad5.jpg)

 cl:)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on May 16, 2017, 10:08:40 AM
Look at this wild eye-catching Dinosaur in My Pocket line that Hardee's distributed as kids' meal premiums!

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/General%20Album%203001/Hardees%20DIMP01_zps4vtmpbof.jpg)

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Balticprince/General%20Album%203/General%20Album%203001/Hardees%203_zpsmvceve6y.jpg)

 8)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on May 22, 2017, 12:18:08 PM
Mattel Strange Change: The Lost World playset sells for over $450 including shipping on eBay!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/664-STUNNING-NEAR-MINT-VINTAGE-60-039-S-MATTEL-STRANGE-CHANGE-LOST-WORLD-W-BOX-/112409931074?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=8uWcWgvJT7S5JYWXcbJKxuajGdw%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc (http://www.ebay.com/itm/664-STUNNING-NEAR-MINT-VINTAGE-60-039-S-MATTEL-STRANGE-CHANGE-LOST-WORLD-W-BOX-/112409931074?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=8uWcWgvJT7S5JYWXcbJKxuajGdw%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/mzIAAOSwlndZG8Pn/s-l1600.jpg)

(http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/2/6/4/6/7/1/webimg/948526384_o.jpg?nc=636310443104548594)

It's the nicest one I've seen, but two things jump out- The listing doesn't say that the heating unit still works, and nearly all of the "time capsules" are still in unmade form. I've never seen one with the corrugated packing pieces still included. Hopefully the new owner can make his monsters/dinos because those are the coolest part of the set. The highest price I've seen one of these sets sell for up until now is around $150. We're seeing crazy prices on certain comics and monster mags so it follows that monster toy prices should go nuts as well. We that bought our stuff back when it was affordable have it pretty sweet. Starting collecting this stuff now would be tough on the wallet.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: japfeif on June 09, 2017, 06:30:49 PM
Hey all you dinosaur fans!! Been awhile since I visited here, but wanted to tell anyone who may be interested that my new book "Dinosaur Playsets: an Illustrated Guide to the Prehistoric Playsets of Marx and MPC, Expanded Edition" is now available! I know some of you guys purchased the original, limited run version last year. As with that book, this new edition is FULLY ILLUSTRATED with color photos of every major (and even "minor") prehistoric playsets that were put out by Marx and it's most famous contemporary, Multiple Products Corporation (MPC). Info is presented on the various boxed, carded, & bagged sets from both companies, as well as detailed discussions of the different accessories that were included. Pretty much everything you ever wanted to know about the dinosaur output of these two companies is presented here. Plus side-by-side comparisons of the different booklets, Marx figures vs. MPC, and the many different reissue/recast sets that were put out by such companies as Toy Street, Superior, Spaulding, Marx of Miami, etc.

Unfortunately, the original version of the book has long been totally sold out and is out of print. However, this new version contains ALL the info from the previous version, so if you didn't get the first one, no harm done...this is not like a "continuation" or a  "part 2" or anything. It's basically the original version with new stuff added (figures & sets from Ajax, Ja-RU, TimMee, Topps, etc....basically dino figures that are and often have been mistaken for either Marx and/or MPC. Additional, any mistakes from the first edition (yes, there WERE some that fellow collectors pointed out....which I very much appreciated!!) have been corrected, some pics enhanced a bit, and certain items I had no pics for or much info about are now included! This is actually the version that was the original vision for the first book, but due to timeline and deadline restraints, the first version had to go out a bit incomplete!

This new book lists for $44.99 on Amazon (be sure to click on the "buy from third-party sellers" link) plus $3.99 shipping, or you can send money directly to me via paypal (japfeif(*at*)aol.com) for $44.99 + $3 shipping (a bit cheaper on the shipping thru me). Also, as an incentive to those who purchased the first book, if  you bought the original version last year I'm offering a 30% discount (since much of the info is included again), which would make it $35 (plus $3 shipping).

If you order thru the PayPal method, PLEASE be sure to choose the "send to friends & family" option, and to include your mailing address in the notes!!! For a bit more detailed info on this book, please see my ads in Playset Magazine and The Prehistoric Times.

Please do not hesitate to email me with ANY questions at japfeif(*at*)aol.com.

Thanks to everyone who purchased the original book, and I hope that some of you folks will be interested in this one as well!
many thanks, Jeff Pfeiffer
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: japfeif on September 10, 2017, 01:33:47 PM
Wanted to remind anyone interested in my book Dinosaur Playsets: an Illustrated Guide to the Prehistoric Playsets of Marx and MPC that copies are available on eBay (as well as directly to me via PayPal ($44.99 +$3 shipping) to japfeif(*at*)aol.com and through Amazon....but preferably as a last resort as their fees have gotten ridiculous!)! Available copies are going faster than expected and the time to print more when these are gone can be a bit lengthy (as I found out after the first run sold out), so please check out the auction (there are a few sample pages on the listing) and if you are a fan of playsets (and other dino items) from Marx & MPC (of which there is VERY little info available elsewhere!), as well as Superior, Whitehall Games, Spaulding, Toy Street, etc., and also related figures & sets from companies often confused with Marx, MPC, & the like (such as Ajax, Nabisco, Ja-Ru, etc.), this is definitely the book for you! Reviews have been great (check out Amazon), I'm quite proud of it, and want to be able to share this guide to these often-neglected playsets with all you dino fans!!!

(https://i.imgur.com/9kZ6V7g.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/htUd5Vt.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/JDFRnY2.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/HFeSdWg.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/EUd3AjL.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/mvNN9W5.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/HdKqlMm.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/IyqNdMb.jpg)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Mike Scott on September 10, 2017, 01:44:39 PM
I'm not a dino collector, myself, but the book looks terrific! I'm always happy to see books like this get published. Adding valuable information useful to the collecting world!  :)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on September 15, 2017, 04:10:32 PM
...the book looks terrific! I'm always happy to see books like this get published. Adding valuable information useful to the collecting world!  :)

++2!!!

 8)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on February 17, 2018, 03:06:32 PM
Sorting out the history of the Marx dinosaur play sets from this thread isn't easy especially with all the pictures that have disappeared into the ether as a result of Photobucket's vandalism. Nonetheless, I've decided to give it a try.

The first Prehistoric Times play set Marx issued was in 1957: 

(https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/marvelmasterworksfansite/download/file.php?id=3099)

Here's a picture of the contents from Bigbud's collection:

(https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/marvelmasterworksfansite/download/file.php?id=4074)

Marx reissued somewhat smaller versions of this play set in various boxes until 1963:

(https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/marvelmasterworksfansite/download/file.php?id=4072&t=1)

(https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/marvelmasterworksfansite/download/file.php?id=4073) (https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/marvelmasterworksfansite/download/file.php?id=4075)

Marx reissued a variant of this play set with cliff terrain pieces in 1970 under the name One Million B.C.:

(https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/marvelmasterworksfansite/download/file.php?id=4076)

I believe the Prehistoric Play Set then followed:

(https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/marvelmasterworksfansite/download/file.php?id=4110)

(https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/marvelmasterworksfansite/download/file.php?id=3100)

And the Prehistoric Dinosaur Play Set:

(https://davesdinosaurs.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/prehistoric-dinosaur.jpg?w=670&h=514)

And then Prehistoric Mountain:

(https://davesdinosaurs.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/marx-prehistoric-playset.jpg?w=670&h=636)

And finally Giant Prehistoric Mountain with even taller cliff terrain pieces:

(https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/marvelmasterworksfansite/download/file.php?id=4071&t=1)

 8)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Dr Wolfenstein on February 17, 2018, 03:39:50 PM
Sorting out the history of the Marx dinosaur play sets from this thread isn't easy especially with all the pictures that have disappeared into the ether as a result of Photobucket's vandalism. Nonetheless, I've decided to give it a try.

  Great work Hepcat. I've never owned any sort of playset but have always liked them.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: japfeif on February 17, 2018, 11:44:56 PM
  Great work Hepcat. I've never owned any sort of playset but have always liked them.

Nice collage Hepcat...although you know that the first pic was a facsimile box & not the authentic one! I've seen them on eBay...very good work on them though....the designer has even made a few of sets that were never made but "should have  been", like a King Kong playset!!! He does good work!

This post reminds me that I want to mention that copies of my book Dinosaur Playsets: an Illustrated Guide to the Prehistoric Playsets of Marx and MPC are still available, and I recently put a few on eBay!
Just throwing that out there!   ;D
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on February 17, 2018, 11:55:26 PM
Nice collage Hepcat...although you know that the first pic was a facsimile box & not the authentic one!


Yes I do.

This post reminds me that I want to mention that copies of my book Dinosaur Playsets: an Illustrated Guide to the Prehistoric Playsets of Marx and MPC are still available, and I recently put a few on eBay!


You might be also be pleased to see this post then:

http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=29649.885 (http://www.universalmonsterarmy.com/forum/index.php?topic=29649.885)

 ;)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on August 09, 2018, 08:29:07 PM
My Best Plastics Corp. collection:

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1816/43955688541_556ffc414c_b.jpg)

Complete except for the Smilodon. Best dino/prehistoric animal figures are tough to find.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on September 22, 2018, 04:54:43 PM
Godzilla Attacks N.Y. Giant Playset (Trendmasters, 1995)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1846/44800394002_56f8bcb85f_b.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1976/29913969527_04e82ee34b_b.jpg)

I bought this new from TRU back in the '90s. The Heisei Series was all the rage in those days so this playset follows the plotlines from those movies somewhat. King Mecha Ghidorah helps defend the city against the Big G. This playset doubles as a target game. The Godzilla figure shoots blue missiles from his mouth that represent his radioactive breath. Different parts of the city "explode" when hit in the right place (spring loaded pop-up bases make the break-away pieces fly apart). I checked it and everything still works. The "breath" darts still fire with some good velocity.
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on October 23, 2018, 08:52:45 AM
A ten year old in 1995 is now 33 years of age which is plenty old to look back fondly on the toys and playsets he had in 1995!

 8)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: horrorhunter on November 08, 2018, 02:01:48 PM
A gift from the Halloween Treat Box Guru, Jason:

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4902/45060151564_d369a182b5_b.jpg)

He sent me samples of the King Kong and Godzilla boxes he made for this past Halloween, as well as a sample of next years Dinosaur Boxes offering. I added the Best Plastics Flats. Yep, everything fits in those 3 boxes.

Jason also sent the 2 Monster Markers at the bottom of the pic.

Thanks, Jason! Love this stuff, man.  :)
Title: Re: Dinosaur Playsets
Post by: Hepcat on December 05, 2018, 04:30:51 PM
Oh man! And what's really cool is that I can appreciate all this junk every bit as much now as I did as a ten year old!

 8)