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Collecting Monsters => Masks and Busts => Topic started by: kolchak on February 25, 2013, 04:33:30 AM

Title: Vintage Don Post Studios mask thread
Post by: kolchak on February 25, 2013, 04:33:30 AM
Seeing Gries' post of great Don Post masks made me think  it would be cool to have a thread of various vintage Don Post masks from collections here at the UMA. I know there are a lot out there. Remember, this thread is for vintage pieces only. Here to start it off are a couple of sets from my collection -

1970s Pat Newman sculpted Karloff Frankenstein with original hands. They ran sets like this until Bill Malone sculpted the `second version´hands that went out in `74:
(http://i48.tinypic.com/2ypc2hi.jpg)

And I don't think I've ever posted a pic of this set. Original vintage 'second version' Newman sculpted Mummy with matching vintage hands. This set is from the mid `70s. The hands were sculpted by Bill Malone and came, as the mask did, covered in fuller's earth.
(http://i47.tinypic.com/207822p.jpg)
Title: Re: Vintage Don Post Studios mask thread
Post by: Toy Ranch on February 25, 2013, 10:01:51 AM
Define "vintage".  When I think of vintage Post, I think pre-Savage Eye.  Others may think pre 90's.  Not sure where the late 70's and 80's masks fall in the realm of "vintage".  When did DP lose the Uni license?  Seems like the Savage Eye Uni masks started about '76 or '77? 
Title: Re: Vintage Don Post Studios mask thread
Post by: kolchak on February 25, 2013, 10:27:38 AM
I meant really vintage original finishes more than era. Personally I don't collect Don Post past 1979/80 - but a cool 89 Universal Florida Mummy, for example, would be great here ;-)
Title: Re: Vintage Don Post Studios mask thread
Post by: raycastile on February 26, 2013, 03:18:02 AM
When these Don Post threads come up, I always feel like I don't have much to contribute. But I do have a few vintage DPs. (My definition of "vintage" is anything at least 20 years old.)

Here's some glamorous photography:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8457/8005334649_de84064b90_b.jpg)


You won't find better pics in National Geographic.

Let me hit you with more awesome photography:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8472/8146846547_86f1d8da2c_o.jpg)


My good old Skull:

(http://thegalleryofmonstertoys.com/masks/donpostskull2.jpg)

That actually is a pretty decent picture, I think.


Some old pics that I've posted many times before:

80s Yeti
(http://thegalleryofmonstertoys.com/masks/donpostyeti.jpg)


70s Erik (black latex)
(http://thegalleryofmonstertoys.com/masks/donposterik2.jpg)


Sinistre with Phantom factory finish
(http://thegalleryofmonstertoys.com/masks/donpostphantom.jpg)

Title: Re: Vintage Don Post Studios mask thread
Post by: Toy Ranch on February 26, 2013, 10:41:59 AM
This was the first licensed Universal Monster item.  It is the grandfather of all Universal Monster toys, masks, etc.  And it's the only copy of this mask still known to exist.  They were first made in 1948, and into the mid or late 1950's. 

A magazine article (Life?) from the 50's states that over a million of them were made, but that number is likely highly inflated. A small shop with a handful of employees making them all by hand would have a very hard time turning them out in those numbers, although I'm sure it seemed like a million at the time. US Population in those years was around 150 million people, and when you take away the very old, the very young, recent immigrants (most of whom would not be as interested in popular culture items like monster masks), the very poor (who might not be able to afford things like this, albeit these were not expensive items), it doesn't stand to reason that even 1 in 100 people owned one of these.  But they were popular, and their popularity led to more masks and more licensed Universal items.

The neck bolts were separate pieces of rubber that fit in the holes under the ears.  They are often missing in photos of people wearing this mask.  The sculpt is very rudimentary, not much more than a rubber sack, but I consider it to be a very special and important rubber head sack.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8328/8142387836_d04a542835_c.jpg)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8049/8142356381_d54dc2fd26_c.jpg)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8188/8142383152_c22556a4af_c.jpg)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8471/8142355157_467f5f2633_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Vintage Don Post Studios mask thread
Post by: Gries on March 03, 2013, 02:28:10 PM
Excellet thread!  I have to take more but I did have these to contribute. 



(http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o786/alloriginaldragon/Wolfman/blond3_zpsd81b63f3.jpg)
(http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o786/alloriginaldragon/Wolfman/blond2_zps839e0a67.jpg)
(http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o786/alloriginaldragon/Wolfman/wolf3_zps612201c0.jpg)
(http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o786/alloriginaldragon/Wolfman/wolf2_zps8a6a9464.jpg)
(http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o786/alloriginaldragon/Wolfman/wolf1_zpsf7136fe8.jpg)
(http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o786/alloriginaldragon/Wolfman/DR2_zpsf3857487.jpg)
(http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o786/alloriginaldragon/Wolfman/DR1_zpsbf81036c.jpg)
(http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o786/alloriginaldragon/EK2_zps1b9106b9.jpg)
(http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o786/alloriginaldragon/EK3_zpsfb424c42.jpg)
(http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o786/alloriginaldragon/Reptilia.jpg)
Title: Re: Vintage Don Post Studios mask thread
Post by: slasher on March 19, 2013, 06:45:48 AM
Great thread. I love old Don Post masks. Keep um coming.  :)
Title: Re: Vintage Don Post Studios mask thread
Post by: frankenstein73 on March 19, 2013, 07:23:00 AM
That emmett kelley mask is very cool!
Title: Re: Vintage Don Post Studios mask thread
Post by: Haunted hearse on March 19, 2013, 11:34:45 AM
I recall buying a new Don Post Mask around 1980, but it didn't have a "How to care tag" attached.  When did Don Post Studios start placing those on their masks?  I thought about buying a skull mask on Ebay recently, but the color and tag seemed different from the one I had, which was like one of the "Halloween 3" masks.
Title: Re: Vintage Don Post Studios mask thread
Post by: Toy Ranch on March 23, 2013, 07:16:23 AM
Don Post has used no tag or different tags at different times, and I don't think there is a definitive tag guide.  Obviously a tag might be damaged and be removed by a retailer, even on a new mask, or a customer trying one on might take the tag off if it was bothering them.   Although tags can be useful in dating Don Post masks, they are easy to put on, so a recently made mask with a vintage tag is not unheard of.  Latex type, thickness, and color, paint scheme, hair color and type (if any) and sculpt differences are much more relevant for dating Don Post masks. A tag (if present) is at most a final piece of the puzzle.

Those skull masks have been made in different versions since 1967.  The 1967 year is in the sculpt for them, but a mask made many years later might have the 1967 date on it.  Complicating things a bit, some fans of H3 put Silver Shamrock tags on their masks. 
Title: Re: Vintage Don Post Studios mask thread
Post by: Toy Ranch on March 23, 2013, 07:21:04 AM
This Glenn Strange mask (calendar version) was a 1998 pull from the original Pat Newman mold as a test for the eventually resculpted Calendar reissue series.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8295/7776637388_8969880058_c.jpg)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8442/7776620780_b00fdc06db_c.jpg)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8301/7776603394_6ebf846397_c.jpg)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8300/7776584966_9afdaab184_c.jpg)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8288/7776567236_6ce8fe36eb_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Vintage Don Post Studios mask thread
Post by: Sir Masksalot on March 03, 2021, 09:11:34 AM
I meant really vintage original finishes more than era.

This old thread of kolchak's seems to be the best place to share early collection pics of
the first Don Post masks I ever owned. It all started in the 1960s with their budget-priced
800 line, the only ones my Dad was willing to buy for me >

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/82/firstphantomclosertr8.jpg)     (https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/F7YIA4.jpg)

After getting my first job at the family business, I was soon spending all my hard-earned money on DP masks >

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/pj8cJn.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/87/curbwolfhandsjq5.jpg)     (https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/410/darkwolfbhwallvi1.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/87/curbmaddoccd3.jpg)     (https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/99/maddocbhwallsb4.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/87/curbquasisj3.jpg)     (https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/410/calhnchbckbhwalltx2.jpg)

'Lots more to follow, check back again soon.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/234/creepyeeriefr5.png)



Title: Re: Vintage Don Post Studios mask thread
Post by: Sir Masksalot on March 17, 2021, 07:30:00 AM
'More of my first collection pics from the early 1970s >

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/87/curbhydeux1.jpg)     (https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/99/hydeonbhwallvc1.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/87/curbphantomjy3.jpg)     (https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/99/yllwphntmbhwallfw3.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/87/curbmolehandsdd5.jpg)     (https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/99/moleonbhwallqn7.jpg)

Hey, aren't we supposed to be wearing these things?

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/19/scanqt.jpg)

Title: Re: Vintage Don Post Studios mask thread
Post by: Doh! on March 18, 2021, 01:19:41 AM
I'll play! I have the Don Post Skull from 1976 and Chewbacca from either 1977 or 78 (not sure when it was released but I got it new at the time):

(https://live.staticflickr.com/4760/40395378901_09ba94e71f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24xASN2)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/4399/35702168714_b57f47c7fe_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/WoSWV1)


I'll admit, Chewie looks a bit derpy here. Maybe I should look at getting him foam-filled before it's too late.
Title: Re: Vintage Don Post Studios mask thread
Post by: Sir Masksalot on March 18, 2021, 08:43:13 PM
Chewbacca from either 1977 or 78

'Fun pics, Doh. Chewbacca masks were already in stores by summer 1977. The hairwork on our early copies was superb.
DPS used at least four different fibre types on them.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/237/closedchewbccapp4.png)
Title: Re: Vintage Don Post Studios mask thread
Post by: Doh! on March 18, 2021, 08:54:56 PM
Thanks for filling in the blanks! I recall seeing pictures of a snarling version from the time, but never saw one in person. But yeah, the hair is most impressive on these.
Title: Re: Vintage Don Post Studios mask thread
Post by: Sir Masksalot on March 19, 2021, 05:39:21 AM
pictures of a snarling version from the time

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/237/chewiemouthjb8.jpg)

The 1977 movie had just barely premiered when that version of the Chewbacca mask went out of production.
I managed to score the last copy in stock at our local magic shop. Today, it'd be worth ... "more wealth than you can imagine".

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/237/openchewbccaoz6.png)       (https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/237/bertwreceiptjm9.png)

I last saw one in 2014. DPS alumnus Robert Short brought his personal copy to a book-signing in L.A. >

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/537/U0BKBI.jpg)
Title: Re: Vintage Don Post Studios mask thread
Post by: Doh! on March 19, 2021, 10:01:17 AM
Man, that's NICE! If I had the option at the time, that would've been the Chewie for me.
Title: Re: Vintage Don Post Studios mask thread
Post by: zotzcoin on March 19, 2021, 11:22:33 AM
Bob Short was also the sculptor of both versions of the Chewbacca mask.  After the open mouth version had been in production for awhile, Bob decided to sculpt a more benign expression version he felt was truer to Chewbacca's character.  (Less chance of the mask being mistaken for yet another Werewolf instead of a Star Wars movie star, too.)  Bob also did the Tuskin Raider mask back then.  He and Bill Malone were busy guys!
Title: Re: Vintage Don Post Studios mask thread
Post by: Dr.Terror on March 21, 2021, 06:41:38 AM
I really prefer the open mouth because it looks like that iconic image of Han +Chewie.

 Before Chewie was released, did Bloody Werewolf  fill the hole for fans like Death Cyborg?     

Im assuming the 800 Werewolf had its color changed from dark to light brown for this purpose?
Title: Re: Vintage Don Post Studios mask thread
Post by: Sir Masksalot on March 21, 2021, 07:01:59 AM
it looks like that iconic image of Han +Chewie.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/15/chewiesnarl.jpg)     (https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/193/chewieclose.png)

Those must've been the only photographs they had to work from.

As to your questions, they're awfully good ones. DPS alumni visit this site occasionally and let's hope they can address them.



Title: Re: Vintage Don Post Studios mask thread
Post by: Sir Masksalot on March 24, 2021, 08:39:59 AM
'More DP mask madness from the 1970s >

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/233/curbmummysa0.jpg)       (https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/99/frstmummybhwalldw4.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/87/curbfrankhandswa6.jpg)       (https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/9/krlfffrnkbhwallpi9.jpg)

The 1975 MR HYDE was a newly designed addition to the Universal series. I scored my copy in July,
not a moment too soon for it only remained in licensed production that one year >

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/l2FprJ.jpg)        (https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/9/malonemrhyde.jpg)
Title: Re: Vintage Don Post Studios mask thread
Post by: Sir Masksalot on April 07, 2021, 08:46:38 AM
I've owned numerous copies of Don Post's "Calendar" PHANTOM over the years
but none could ever match the thrill of scoring my very first copy in June 1975 >

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/410/calphntmbhwallxs5.jpg)

It was already several years old by then and, though its paint was still original, some of
the hair was missing. Within a year, my old PHANTOM mask was turning heads with a
new shock-white hair style courtesy of the good folks at DPS >

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/263/wearcalphantmjo7.png)

It was a comfortable fit, having been cast thinly to allow DP's "Second Skin Animation" concept
to reach full effect. To get that same action out of their thick 1999 reissue, you'd probably need a crowbar!
Title: Re: Vintage Don Post Studios mask thread
Post by: Doh! on April 08, 2021, 12:20:09 AM
Nice! I have the TOTS version (but it's in storage with no good photos of it handy). Appears to be out of stock at the moment:

https://trickortreatstudios.com/chaney-entertainment-phantom-of-the-opera.html
Title: Re: Vintage Don Post Studios mask thread
Post by: vader45 on June 20, 2021, 01:34:28 PM
This thread is full of greats!

Here is some of my Don Post masks.

(https://i.imgur.com/d9l0CXy.jpg)

I have 70's vinyl mummy and hyde 1977 Quasimodo, 902 Alien, 1981 Reptilia and badly rotted Syngenor, 1988 WormWood, 1989 Sam McCain painted Karloff Frank, 1983 Phantom and reissues of Drac, Hyde, Mad Doctor, Phantom and Hunchback.

I can take more later as that is my only on hand photo.
Title: Re: Vintage Don Post Studios mask thread
Post by: Sir Masksalot on June 21, 2021, 10:13:01 AM
I can take more later as that is my only on hand photo

Include a shot of that bottom shelf too, looks like some Horror Sanctum masks down there.
Title: Re: Vintage Don Post Studios mask thread
Post by: vader45 on June 21, 2021, 05:39:01 PM
Include a shot of that bottom shelf too, looks like some Horror Sanctum masks down there.

Oh yeah. The Wolf man Mummy and Dracula from Horror Sanctum. 
Title: Re: Vintage Don Post Studios mask thread
Post by: Buzzybean on June 21, 2021, 08:26:43 PM
When these Don Post threads come up, I always feel like I don't have much to contribute. But I do have a few vintage DPs. (My definition of "vintage" is anything at least 20 years old.)

Here's some glamorous photography:

([url]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8472/8146846547_86f1d8da2c_o.jpg[/url])


When I was a kid, my family used to go to a campground on the weekends where our 29 foot rec trailer was parked. One year, probably 1975 or so, the campground held a Halloween party at their pavilion/game room. I remember as we left for the night, a bunch of adults in costume had just gotten there and we passed them in the parking lot. One of the guys had this mask on and I thought it was the creepiest/scariest/coolest mask I'd ever seen. I didn't know who the character was and I occasionally bought the Famous Monsters of Filmland magazine, funds permitting, but didn't recall ever seeing that mask in their masks section. I just remember it looking real-life and scary as hell...lol
Title: Re: Vintage Don Post Studios mask thread
Post by: Dr.Terror on June 21, 2021, 08:27:19 PM
When I found that Wormwood it had 1987 Halloween newspaper in it😎