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Title: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: vintagehalloweentoys on September 23, 2012, 04:30:00 PM
Do you believe in ghosts? If you do, have you ever seen one? Have you ever gone ghost hunting?
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: BARON TIMOTHEUS BGG on September 23, 2012, 05:10:49 PM
Yes... Yes ... and, Yes. True Stories, to follow....
EXANIMO EVERNOW,
TIMMY, B.G.G.
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: charp13 on September 23, 2012, 05:14:57 PM
I never like to say anything about the subject (even though my grandson has asked me before), because I don't really believe in ghosts and I don't want to close off any possibilities. But if there are ghosts, they have not chosen to reveal themselves to me because I am not a very calm or strong person.....and I would most likely freak out! But I would love to hear some real stories from people who have seen them. No one in my family has ever discussed their beliefs, and I don't watch ghost hunting shows.
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: neonnoodle on September 23, 2012, 05:30:12 PM
This is a complicated question.  Yes, I believe that when people say they see something and call it a ghost, they are in fact seeing something.  I believe they are seeing something real, and not just something in their imagination. 

But as to what that something is?  I don't think any analysis has been done that answers that question.

For example, here's what I think:  Maybe you hear the footsteps of someone with big shoes in your house when you know no one else is there.  Maybe someone with big shoes used to live in your house.  But that doesn't necessarily mean that the sounds you hear are that person's disembodied spirit.  Nor does it mean that spirits exist.  You are experiencing something unmistakably odd; but until more sophisticated tools are developed to analyze these events, they remain phenomena.

I do think, though, that whatever these things are, when we get a handle on exactly what we're looking at, it's gonna be very surprising and it will be a quantum leap in our understanding of the universe.
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Ghost on September 23, 2012, 06:03:27 PM
Do you believe in ghosts? If you do, have you ever seen one? Have you ever gone ghost hunting?


I would love to believe in ghosts. I am not a really big fan of "ghost hunting" with electronic gadgets that prove the existence of anything other than ghosts. Look this house is haunted by a Electro Magnetic Field (the ghost is showing us magnetic north oh never mind it is just my cellphone) , garbled noise on a tape recorder that sorta sounds like a person talking "Did the ghost just say Cheetos? Fritos? Burritos? Well whatever it was it must be hungry" and dust particles on camera lenses. Was that scratching behind the wall a coded message or a mouse? Whooo a cold spot, must be a recently departed wind draft. I think most ghost hunters appear silly bumping around in the dark trying to prove something with their infrared cameras trying not to look scared. "What was that!? Did you just hear that!?"

Don't get me wrong I love ghosts. I would love for there to be scientific proof of spirits, phantasms, poltergeists, spooks, specters, etc. My favorite books are Ghost Stories. My user name on this forum is obvious. I do get a spooky vibe with some purportedly real ghost photos but most are clearly fakes or can be explained with pareidolia.

I love creepy atmospheres and personally know people who swear they have seen the spirits of the dead. I never have but the next time you see one tell them I am dying to meet them! I take a Harry Houdini approach to it with a heavy dose of skepticism but wanting to find real proof and exposing charlatans.

A few of my favorite ghost stories are:

A Christmas Carol - Charles Dickens
The Signalman - Charles Dickens
The Wendigo - Algernon Blackwood
The Empty House - Algernon Blackwood
The Body-snatcher - Robert Louis Stevenson
The Monkey's Paw - W.W. Jacobs
The Tell-Tale Heart - Edgar Allen Poe
The Mask of the Red Death - Edgar Allen Poe
The Legend of Sleepy Hollow - Washington Irving
Smee - Alfred McLellan Burrage

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Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Ghost on September 23, 2012, 06:31:20 PM
For a folklore assignment I went to all of the purportedly haunted locations on campus and collected their legends, my only ghost hunting experience.

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There are many ghost stories surrounding cemeteries and a good many deal with haunted headstones. While in college we would pilgrimage to the cemetery in the center of campus jumping the wrought iron fence and creep into the shadows under the trees and slip between headstones as we meandered through graves on our way to the weeping woman. Keeping a wary eye out for the random police patrol cruiser spot light. Getting to the base of the statue we would tell the story of an immigrant family losing their children to sickness and the grief stricken mother never getting past it, wasting away at the graveside weeping until she joined her children in death. Her distraught husband commissioned the statue of a bereaved woman holding a wreath. Legend says that the monument weeps at midnight for her children. Some frat house years ago painted luminescent paint on the tear tracks. As you tell the story you shine your light on the face of the woman and when you finish the light goes off leaving glowing tear tracks down the bluish gray face of the statute making a pretty creepy cool effect. Here the story:

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The Weeping Woman of Logan Cemetery
Legend has it that the Cronquist family were early settlers in Cache Valley from Europe. In the late 1800s life was hard. Out of her six children, five died at an early age from scarlet fever. When a few years later her last child died from a case of pneumonia the mother was inconsolable in her grief and anguish having lost all her children.
She spent her remaining days grieving at the cemetery with her husband forced to bring her meals and to take her home at night, as she would not leave her children’s graves during the day. Her health quickly faded and the once cheerful woman became a ghost of a person wailing for hours. She eventually died and as a memorial her husband sent an order to the old country to make a statue in her likeness grieving, to be sent back to Logan and placed were she could always watch over her children’s grave sites. The commissioned statue arrived and was placed near her children in the middle of the Logan Cemetery.
On a moonless night they say you can see glowing tears coursing down her cheeks, and if you circle the marker three times saying weep woman weep then lighting three matches, you will hear her ghostly cries.

2. The Old Tunnel System Underneath Campus

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 Underneath the campus at Utah State University is a labyrinth of tunnels used to connect building to building for coal produced steam power. The old coal burning steam plant is no longer in use with a cleaner heating facility now in place. There are even new stretches of tunnel that have been built, but many of the old sections of tunnel remain. Some of the older sections have been sealed off ending in dead ends that no longer reach their destinations.
It has long been customary as a test of braveness of the students to explore the catacomb-like tunnels after dark. Some say that the only real dangers are being caught by the campus police and charged with criminal trespassing or having a steam pipe burst and to be scalded to death. While others claim there are other more supernatural hidden dangers lurking beneath the campus and while exploring have heard unexplainable noises and seen unaccountable sights. People swear they have heard a man laughing, a child crying, and a noise like the growling of a beast. Some claim to have seen lights ahead of them that mysteriously disappear. While I was down there I located a WWII fall out shelter with cots, a ham radio, rotting food supplies, blankets, etc.

3. The Old Main Bell Tower

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In the Old Main bell tower the original bell is missing. It has been moved and is hanging outside the Dee Glen Spectrum on the North side. Where it used to reside in the tower is a system of electronic chimes, bells, and speakers. There are even speakers on various other buildings as well. These ring out every hour and half hour marking time audibly on the USU campus. There is also a organ that can be played manually or automatically that is used for playing the commencement music as the graduates march from Old Main down Champ Drive to the Spectrum for the graduation ceremonies.
Legend has it that once a student was selected to play the organ on graduation day because of her talent. The night before she had been driving back to Logan through Sardine Canyon. She fell asleep at the wheel and drifted into oncoming traffic colliding with a large truck head on. She was pronounced dead at the scene. The electric organ was placed up in the tower the following year to play automatically for graduation from then on negating the need to find someone to play every year. Some say on graduation night when the “A” atop the tower is turned blue for the graduates, if one listens very closely at midnight, you can just make out the sound of spectral commencement music being played. As far as I know no one has dared investigate the source of the music while it is playing.

4. The Cadaver Lab

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Used by aspiring medical and anatomy students the cadaver lab plays a valuable role in teaching. Bodies that are donated to science arrive periodically to be examined. Not for the faint of heart in the daytime, the lab is especially spooky at night. After the building is locked up spirits are said to roam the halls exploring the new home of their corpses. The dead have willingly (in most cases) donated their bodies to be cut up and examined. But if you are unwise enough to disturb their rest at night may heaven help you.

5. The Organ Loft of Kent Concert Hall

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On certain nights after a performance and all have returned home it is rumored that haunting melodies can be heard from the darkened hall coming from the organ loft. As one investigates the music upon entrance into the loft the music abruptly ceases. From below it can certainly be heard emanating from the brass pipes but the keys on the organ are never seen to move.

6. The Fife Folklore Collection at the Merrill Library

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Besides being chalk full of ghost stories and other legends and customs, supposedly amidst the dusty tomes and bound books of previous times there is said to roam several spirits searching for their life stories at night among the stacks. If you visit the Folklore collection and the door that leads to a ramp is opened you can hear a wailing noise from the wind coming out of the lower regions. It is as if the building itself is breathing.

7. The Hatch Room in Special Collections

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The Hatch room is a unique place in the special collections at the Merrill library. It is furnished with donated antiques from various families and decorated as if it were a study in a Victorian manor. Complete with a stone-hearth fireplace and candelabra, it is a place where one may look at a complete set of Tennyson or Shakespeare, or glance at a manuscript bible inked in Latin.
Legend has it that not all of the items within were donated freely, and that some are even haunted with the spirits of their former owners who are bound by greed to their earthly possessions.

8. Underneath the Morgan Theater

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It seems as if every successful theater is said to be haunted, and Utah State’s Morgan Theater is no exception. Rumors abound of stage crew being hung in the rafters after slipping off of the rigging used for the lighting, or of actors that have met their demise before, after, or even during a popular play. However none of these deaths has ever been substantiated. Still talking with those who have been under the stage in the prop storage area, there is a widely held feeling of being watched by unseen eyes among the furniture.

9. The Osteology Lab

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The Osteology lab is a place where anthropology students can study skeletons during the day. At night, however, the place is said to be visited by men who have already passed into the grave. If one listens to the door at night after the last person in the building including the janitors have gone home, it is told that you will hear the dead retelling stories of there former lives.

10. The Bone Furnace

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The furnace underneath the oldest part of the Veterinary Science building is used to dispose of biological matter, specifically the dead animals that have been used in experiments for the advancement of science here at the university. Looking into the furnace one can clearly see bone fragments and splinters among the ashes. Some say if you pay close enough attention you can hear the sounds of the countless rats and other animals. Something may even brush your leg.

11.   The Alumni House

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The old Presidents’ house that now serves as an alumnus meeting hall at the top of Old Main Hill is said to have visitors come in the dead of night to the court yard. Former caretakers have seen deceased former alumni from all the years of school chatting away under the moonlight.

12.   The Old Main Amphitheater

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People who have to walk through or past the old amphitheater on the South side of Old Main Hill know well enough to quicken their steps as they head for home at night. Some say that there is a deranged man who follows female students as they near the trees. No one is sure of his intentions or even his existence. But some that have seen his unruly appearance and the wild gleam in his eye may warn to steer well away from the Amphitheater at night.

13.   The Basement of the Family Life Center House

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It is clearly evident by the broken furniture stored here that this dirt floor cellar is seldom used. But there are hints such as a scorched fire pit that someone has been there recently. The house sits at the bottom of Old Main Hill and rumors speculate at what may be buried under that old cellar ranging from hidden treasure to murder victims.

14. The HPER Swimming Pool

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In October of 1991 a lifeguard noticed while making a head count of the pool patrons an Asian man swimming near the Southwest deep end of the pool by the diving boards. He appeared to be doing some form of exercise and had his head above water.  When the guard had returned from the office after noting the count he no longer saw the man swimming. No one had heard any cries for help or any splashing from a struggling swimmer. He peered into the pool and saw the man at the bottom in the fetal position.
 He immediately dove in to rescue the man and pulled him to the shallow end and out of the water onto the tile. The man was not breathing and CPR was started as others called 911. Police arrived in a very short time and the man was clearly apnic with no visible respiration and his body was in a state of acrocyanosis a body-wide lack of oxygen that turned his skin bluish. His pupils were fixed and dilated. The officer cleared his airway and began chest pumping. After five minute an ambulance had arrived and they began advanced heart resuscitation. The man was briefly resuscitated regaining a pulse but died while being airlifted to LDS hospital in Salt Lake City by a life-flight helicopter.
Police were unable to identify the victim. The body was photographed and the lockers in the locker room searched to no avail. Various student presidents of Asian communities tried to identify him. He was finally identified when an Intensive English Professor reported him missing after not showing up for class. A Korean interpreter was assigned to notify his family in Korea and it was learned from his parents that he had never learned to swim as far as they were aware.
No one knows why he ventured into the deep end or why he did not struggle or cry out. But it is rumored that after hours there is a stairwell that leads down to a window where you can look into the water beneath the deep end, if the pool is covered sometimes it is said that the man is visible at the bottom still in the fetal position. Most of his sightings have been before a near drowning has taken place in the pool.

15.   The Second Floor of the Biotechnology Lab

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This was the site of a very gruesome death. In February of 1999 a Chinese man committed suicide by ingesting a lethal chemical. The man had been in a relationship for two years with a female co-worker at the lab. However they had broken up and parted ways. The man could not accept his loss and tried to win her back. When that failed he resorted to racking her with guilt as he killed himself in front of her one night as the two were working late.
A frantic 911 call made by the woman with the man screaming in the background notified the police. When they arrived the man was disoriented and had stripped himself nude attempting to alleviate the burning inside him. He was foaming at the mouth and began to convulse on the floor. It was learned from the hysterically sobbing woman that he drank aldehyde a chemical compound found in formaldahyde that is used for embalming. The man’s jaw became rigid and the officer was unable to pry his mouth open. CPR was impossible because of his convulsions and the chemical fumes coming from his mouth prevented mouth to mouth breathing.  Sadly he was dead before the ambulance arrived a few minutes later. He was officially pronounced dead at Logan Regional Hospital.
It is often said that severe emotions may leave an imprint almost like a memory in a place of tragedy. Those who work late at night have heard ghostly screams and frantic wailing and have seen an unknown Asian male in a lab coat walking by.
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Dr. Madd on September 23, 2012, 06:40:02 PM
Fell asleep on the couch one night in the house I grew up in, and Woke at 4 in the morning to find a white ghost hovering over me.
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Ghost on September 23, 2012, 06:46:48 PM
Fell asleep on the couch one night in the house I grew up in, and Woke at 4 in the morning to find a white ghost hovering over me.

Was it someone you recognized, or a stranger? How did this white ghost appear? Solid? Transparent? Floating? Standing? Clothing? Were your family the original owners of the house? s there anyone supposed to have died in the home? How old were you?
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Dr. Madd on September 23, 2012, 07:02:40 PM
I was about 23. We bought the house, but I hear people died in there.. It was an old house. No recognizable face. Just a white shroud.
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: neonnoodle on September 23, 2012, 07:15:33 PM
Oh my gosh!  This thread is very scary!
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Fester on September 23, 2012, 07:18:14 PM
Ghost: That was a great write up on haunted USU!  My folks went there when I was a toddler.  It was Utah State Ag College back then. I remember hearing stories about the Old Main being haunted, so those tales dated back into the late 1950s.  When I was a kid in Salt Lake we used to try to find the Bride of Memory Grove and get some sort of reaction from Emo's Grave.  But no luck.
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: vintagehalloweentoys on September 23, 2012, 07:22:45 PM
Ghost....Very interesting stuff! I'm pleased you took the time to post everything you did, and the other UMA members seem to be diggin this thread.
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: neonnoodle on September 23, 2012, 08:03:56 PM
I often listen to this podcast called "Anything Ghost" which features true-life tales of otherworldly events.  Sometimes the stories give me a shiver!

http://anythingghost.libsyn.com/ (http://anythingghost.libsyn.com/)

And I love to read supposedly true ghost stories.  I have a stack of books that I go through when I have that hankering!
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: CreepysFan on September 23, 2012, 08:09:45 PM
  Yes.  Lived in a house with a creepy bad room between age 3 to 6. 
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Flower on September 23, 2012, 08:26:24 PM
I haven't had an experience to date .. I've been on several haunted and vampire walking tours in the French Quarter (New Orleans) and they are well worth the money .. In fact, we're thinking of getting a haunted room in the Andrew Jackson Hotel the next time we visit.

http://www.paranormalknowledge.com/articles/andrew-jackson-hotel.html (http://www.paranormalknowledge.com/articles/andrew-jackson-hotel.html)
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Fester on September 23, 2012, 09:10:08 PM
Do I believe in ghosts?
Well, I enjoy ghost stories, novels and movies.

Real ghosts?
I have never seen one that could not be explained in non-supernatural terms.  Most “evidence” of ghosts are illusions and misperceptions with some of them being outright fakes.
I understand people's susceptibility to suggestion.  I also understand some folks need to see something meaningful in their experiences.  We are hardwired, it seems, to seek and recognize patterns in what we see. Admit it or not, we have all experienced examples of what is called pareidolia. Ever seen a cloud or rock outcropping that resembles a face or another object?  That is Pareidolia. 
In Ireland, many years ago, I visited the site of a miraculous apparition of a statue of the Virgin Mary moving. There were so many votive candles--each one prayerfully lit by a visitor--that the air around the statues shimmered.  One poor old lady saw the Virgin smile and wink at her. The lady then gasped and fainted dead away. I was standing close enough to grab her and break her fall. When she came to the old lady swore she saw what she saw.  I had been standing next to her, and all I saw was a beautifully carved and painted 19th century statue--totally immobile.  We tend to see what we expect to see.
And if we are expecting to experience a ghostly haunting, our minds will conjure one up.
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Count_Zirock on September 23, 2012, 09:27:08 PM
No, I don't believe in ghosts. I do love ghost stories, but I don't believe in the supernatural at all.
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Ghost on September 24, 2012, 01:52:26 PM
Ghost: That was a great write up on haunted USU!  My folks went there when I was a toddler.  It was Utah State Ag College back then. I remember hearing stories about the Old Main being haunted, so those tales dated back into the late 1950s.  When I was a kid in Salt Lake we used to try to find the Bride of Memory Grove and get some sort of reaction from Emo's Grave.  But no luck.


Ha, I grew up hearing stories of Emo's grave and the ghost of memory grove among others from my dad. I collect local legends it is always cool to hear about spooky things supposedly happening in your neck of the woods.

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Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Street Worm on September 24, 2012, 06:59:08 PM
Nope, never saw one but my wife says she has...

I do think there is more out there then we understand...
I've had a lot of experiences that could be attributed to 'guardian angels'
(for lack of a better term...)
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: aura of foreboding on September 24, 2012, 07:08:49 PM
Seen one.  Would rather not see one again. 

*And by one, I mean what other people would most likely call a "ghost" - an eerie black form that appears and disappears.  I am still not sure what I'd call it.  Guardian Angel?  Something from another dimension/realm that got caught in our own?  No clue.  But it freaked me out to the point that I now need at least a little more light in every room.   :)
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: lblambert on September 24, 2012, 07:42:35 PM
I agree 100% with Count Zirock...I love a good ghost story but I do not believe in the supernatural at all.

I took a ghost tour in Key West just to hear some of the neat local ghost stories and quite enjoyed it. The guide had us take photos in some of the "haunted" areas and I got a good first hand look at how strong the power of suggestion can be. On two people's photographs, the guide proudly proclaimed that they had photographed ectoplasm which proved paranormal activity and got the group all excited. One of them was a red patch that, on closer examination, was circle shaped with a line diagonally through it, you could also clearly see it was on a white background with a black letter P. Yes, they proved the existence of a No Parking sign but the majority of the group refused to accept the rational explanation. The other were green blobs which had tiny strands connecting them to a darker elongated thicker strand. Yep...blurry tree branch with leaves and once again the majority of the group refused to accept it. These people just believed and wanted to have an experience so they convinced themselves they were having a paranormal experience when there was a logical explanation staring them in the face.
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: aura of foreboding on September 24, 2012, 09:02:38 PM
This is a complicated question.  Yes, I believe that when people say they see something and call it a ghost, they are in fact seeing something.  I believe they are seeing something real, and not just something in their imagination. 

But as to what that something is?  I don't think any analysis has been done that answers that question....

I do think, though, that whatever these things are, when we get a handle on exactly what we're looking at, it's gonna be very surprising and it will be a quantum leap in our understanding of the universe.

A notion I fully subscribe to. 

You can't tell me that I haven't seen what I have seen.  But I can't honestly tell you what I have seen is ''a ghost.''  I wish science would take this subject more seriously, so we could get to the bottom of these strange encounters.  Unfortunately, there's a lot of noise out there that inhibits growth of actual knowledge or understanding.  I definitely believe in other dimensions beyond the ones we know now, and I believe those dimensions let down their walls when the circumstances are just right.  Whether those dimensions involve Past Time, Actual Dead People, or Something Entirely Different, I have no idea.  But I would love for a team to investigate the possibilities of these other-worldly realms.  There is so much out there we don't know...  To even get a hint of knowledge would be refreshing, possibly mind-blowing. 
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: neonnoodle on September 24, 2012, 10:21:15 PM
Yes, absolutely.  But also, of course, I was not suggesting that people don't imagine they see things; they do.  And it's easy to hear a "noise" in the middle of the night and imagine that it's something unnatural when in fact it's something totally natural.  Our ability to imagine things is well known.  (Why, just look at this site!  It's dedicated to imaginary monsters!)   But yeah, in cases like aura of foreboding's above...I don't know aura at all, but that sounds like an actual experience of something strange and unknown.

See, here's my take on these mythologies...when someone says "I don't believe in ghosts," what they are often saying is that they don't believe in a particular mythology of ghosts; they are often saying, "I don't believe a person's soul or intelligence continues in some form after death," so even the disbelief, if you follow me, comes with presuppositions, predispositions.

My approach is more like, We have unexplained experiences all the time, and unexplained experiences are the catalyst for a scientific thought process.  What is that glowing ball we see in the sky every day?  It lights up the world, keeps us warm, grows our crops.  Today we call it our sun, but once upon a time it was an unknown.  I think the people who see what people call "ghosts" are sometimes seeing a new unknown.  Maybe one that occurs with less regularity than the daily appearance of our sun.  It seems premature to assume that it "is" something (like a spirit, or a goblin, or whatever) without a whole lot of data and analysis of what the thing "is."  Until we can study it more, I would call the thing an unknown.
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: aura of foreboding on September 24, 2012, 10:25:45 PM
Exactly!  And that is one reason why I dislike a lot of the "ghost tours."  While they are fun, and I am sure some of the stories are based in some kind of fact, a lot of people just see things because they want to.  And that reduces the credibility of folks who have actually had unexplained encounters. 

Like you said, we just don't know what these unexplained things are... yet.   tynhrt
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: neonnoodle on September 24, 2012, 11:03:48 PM
I went on a couple of ghost hunts a while back.  Even did one on Halloween night!  People had audio recorders, magnetometers, video cameras.  Everyone was playing scientist.  But you know what was REALLY going on?  A bunch of people were getting together on a dark night in a spooky house and enjoying a good creepy scare, that's what was going on!  I think people mainly do those things because it's fun and it exercises the imagination.  Hey, I enjoyed it too.

You know, "they say" that one of the very best ways to NOT see a ghost is to go hunting for ghosts.  Supposedly, the majority of people who see these mysterious things are not looking for them.
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: aura of foreboding on September 25, 2012, 07:28:31 PM
Oh yeah, the ghost tours are a lot of fun.  And I would never suggest getting rid of them.  But, come now, people, you didn't all just see a full bodied apparition in the corner, so don't go around telling everyone you did! 

And you are right...  If you go hunting for one, you won't find it.  It's all about the surprise...  Believe me, I'd rather it not be.   ;)
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: ravenloft on September 25, 2012, 10:36:17 PM
well...
I have had some strange experiences...
Once the phone rang and it was a woman crying and I could get no answer out of her so I hung up then immediately my dad called from the hospital to tell me my grandpa had just died. He hadn't told anyone else yet. What a strange coincidence!?!
I often thought I heard my grandpa roaming the house in his distinctive slipper shuttle down the hall to the kitchen where I listened to plates and a fork perhaps clinking while my neck hair raised! I used to perk up my ears to catch again a perceived muttering that sounded like my grandpa's normal grumblings when he was alive.
I have a whole bookcase dedicated to ghost stories everything from Victorian classics to kids paperbacks. I joined the local paranormal investigation group but soon realized that they were using pseudoscientific  techniques and dropped out. I have several supposedly serious scientific books on the subject as well but the only one that is actually a serious scientific inquiry in the subject is "Spook" by Mary Roach http://www.amazon.com/Spook-Science-Tackles-Afterlife-ebook/dp/B001CBMX92/ref=dp_kinw_strp_1 (http://www.amazon.com/Spook-Science-Tackles-Afterlife-ebook/dp/B001CBMX92/ref=dp_kinw_strp_1)
I definitely sincerely wish ghosts are real but I have succumbed to logic and reason and know that there is no scientific proof. I chalk my earlier experiences up to just waking up and being groggy, being young and alone in the house with an over active imagination and just chance coincidence. But I sure love a good ghost story! I read them all the time and can retell many from memory at the right spooky moment on a camping trip or in a dark corner. My twin brother forum member "Ghost" has already shared a few of our ghost hunting adventures in college. We will never stop looking for ghosts and I hope one finds me even if I don't have the chance to prove it to others  ;)
a parting thought: most religions automatically imply belief in an afterlife as well as a soul or spirit that survives physical death. Is a ghost a soul of a dead person and a cognizant entity? or is it some form of energy that has been recorded to playback under certain conditions? A trick of optics, atmospheric or lighting conditions? A mental glitch that has yet to be explained medically or physiologically? Or is it just wishful thinking of people who enjoy a good fright?  ;)
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: CreepysFan on September 26, 2012, 12:01:38 AM
  There is so much out there we don't know...  To even get a hint of knowledge would be refreshing, possibly mind-blowing.
   
  Lovecraft might disagree.  I've experienced what is referred to as Shadow people at a young age.  I don't want to know.....I'll stick with reading Lovecraft instead.  Once was enough for a lifetime.
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: aura of foreboding on September 26, 2012, 12:29:17 AM
   
  Lovecraft might disagree.  I've experienced what is referred to as Shadow people at a young age.  I don't want to know.....I'll stick with reading Lovecraft instead.  Once was enough for a lifetime.

Haha!  Point taken.  Yet, people do always seem to be more frightened by the unknown.  Strange... because what they don't know can't hurt them.   Or can it?   je7u6ker6

And it's interesting that you should bring that up about the Shadow People.  As my experience might fall into the "Shadow People" category as well.  Really horrifying experience that still gives me goosebumps and has me looking over my shoulder.  And I was 20, so I know it wasn't a dream. 
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Herr Hussmann on September 26, 2012, 08:18:25 AM
The old Art Bell radio show had a psychic/spirtualist/"remote viewer" named Ed Dames who claimed that "Shadow People" were actually the shadows of ghosts and that ghosts had no consciousness, they were only residual energy left over from dead people.
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Dr.Teufel Geist on September 30, 2012, 03:03:55 PM
No, I don't believe in ghosts. I do love ghost stories, but I don't believe in the supernatural at all.

Dr. John Markway: Look, I know the supernatural is something that isn't supposed to happen, but it does happen.


Actually, I am a firm believer in the Supernatural, but not in Ghosts...I somewhat agree with Neonnoodle, but to the extent of my beliefs that these spectres, ghosts, haunts, etc are more darker than we think.
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Zackuth on September 30, 2012, 03:36:40 PM
I have had some things that are unexplainable, but I don't know if I say it was a ghost or not.  The first occasion was when I was at home on my way to the bathroom.  As I was just about to go down the hallway I ran into somethng or some one.  It was enough to stop me going a decent pace.  Looking around I was not near a wall to stop me nor was there anyone in the hallway.  The second time was when I was on my ship the Raleigh on watch.  I was taking a reading in an area where there were two ladders to the level and I was in view of both.  I heard someone coming down the ladder to the deck I was on, the ladder was loose and made different noises when going up and coming down, I know that.  But when I went to look, no one was there.  This happened late at night and there was no other noises that could have confused me. 
Now, could I have accidently ran into a part of my wall at home and mistakenly thought I was at the open area of the hallway?  Sure, it's possible.
Could some of my shipmates been playing a prank on me and made it sound as though someone was coming down the ladder?  Sure, it's possible.
As a Christian, I believe that souls either go to heaven or hell upon death, therefore I don't believe in ghosts.  But now comes the question; if my encounters were of a supernatural type, then did were those things?
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Dr.Teufel Geist on September 30, 2012, 04:39:08 PM
I have had some things that are unexplainable, but I don't know if I say it was a ghost or not.  The first occasion was when I was at home on my way to the bathroom.  As I was just about to go down the hallway I ran into somethng or some one.  It was enough to stop me going a decent pace.  Looking around I was not near a wall to stop me nor was there anyone in the hallway.  The second time was when I was on my ship the Raleigh on watch.  I was taking a reading in an area where there were two ladders to the level and I was in view of both.  I heard someone coming down the ladder to the deck I was on, the ladder was loose and made different noises when going up and coming down, I know that.  But when I went to look, no one was there.  This happened late at night and there was no other noises that could have confused me. 
Now, could I have accidently ran into a part of my wall at home and mistakenly thought I was at the open area of the hallway?  Sure, it's possible.
Could some of my shipmates been playing a prank on me and made it sound as though someone was coming down the ladder?  Sure, it's possible.
As a Christian, I believe that souls either go to heaven or hell upon death, therefore I don't believe in ghosts.  But now comes the question; if my encounters were of a supernatural type, then did were those things?
I agree with that statement, as I am also...which brings me to, Demonic Activity.
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Haunted hearse on September 30, 2012, 05:03:06 PM
So now Casper represents some kind of Demonic force?  I thought Hot Stuff had that teritory covered. :P
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Fester on September 30, 2012, 08:16:21 PM
Not to mention Phil, Ruler of Heck.
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Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: RedKing on October 01, 2012, 10:58:21 AM
I definitely believe in ghosts, however I do think there is a science for the "supernatural" that we just do not understand. Many ghost and haunted areas have higher than usual electromagnetic fields which has to have something to do with the phenomena whether it creates illusions or ghosts are actually a form of energy we don't understand.
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Zackuth on October 01, 2012, 07:38:27 PM
I agree with that statement, as I am also...which brings me to, Demonic Activity.

That's what I would be leaning toward as well. 
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Unknown Primate on October 01, 2012, 08:29:27 PM
I've experienced some strange events that I couldn't explain - but 90% of them, I could.  Maybe even 98%.  It's that weird little Twilight Zone-ish 2% that interests me.  I've known some very trustworthy, honest people who feel they have seen & experienced some sort of paranormal phenomena.  I believe them.  Several of my relatives have had really weird experiences.  And some UMA members, also.  I believe them.  The thing about my family, sisters, nieces, etc. (and probably the UMA'ers), we all have an interest in creepy stuff, but have always believed in debunking everything we could, first.  Also, I think it's human nature for some folks to embellish and dramatize their stories.  And I don't hold anything against them - doesn't mean that the supernatural can't have a basis of truth, IMO.

I know there is an unseen world, what with all the technology and natural events going on around us.  Power lines, radar, microwaves, tvs, computers, internet, sonar, motors, fluorescent lights, microwave ovens, cell phones, ball lightning, atmospheric changes, electric appliances, house wiring, satellite beams, underground cables, atoms, molecules, compounds, etc.  It may sound crazy, but what if the paranormal is just that - above the norm?  What if high strangeness is supposed to be part of our world?  That hidden, dark and unknown area.  That two percent. 
Ghosts?  Spirits of the dead?  I don't know.  The paranormal?  I firmly believe that there's more to this universe than we'll ever know.  And sometimes it breaks through to show itself, in some form or another.

But that's just me, your humble UP.

Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: aura of foreboding on October 01, 2012, 09:39:04 PM
Sounds about right to me, UP. 

Before I saw what I saw (when I saw it  :P), I'd always thought I may have had an earlier encounter with something paranormal - a strange white mist.  But after seeing this Shadow Person or whatever it is, I can now distinguish my wishful thinking (Probably was some sort of steam) from the truly out-of-this-world phenomena.  It was at that point when I started telling people, "Okay, if you've seen a 'ghost,' you know it.  There's no two ways about it."
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Dr.Teufel Geist on October 01, 2012, 10:04:43 PM
Sounds about right to me, UP. 

Before I saw what I saw (when I saw it  :P), I'd always thought I may have had an earlier encounter with something paranormal - a strange white mist.  But after seeing this Shadow Person or whatever it is, I can now distinguish my wishful thinking (Probably was some sort of steam) from the truly out-of-this-world phenomena.  It was at that point when I started telling people, "Okay, if you've seen a 'ghost,' you know it.  There's no two ways about it."

Tell me more about this Shadow Person.
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: CreepysFan on October 01, 2012, 10:34:36 PM
I agree with that statement, as I am also...which brings me to, Demonic Activity.
   
  This mirrors my thoughts as well.
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: aura of foreboding on October 01, 2012, 10:35:45 PM
I was 20 years-old at the time.  It was Christmas break.  I had just woken up.  (Bad way to start a story about a "ghost" encounter, I know.)  Anyway, to clarify, I was fully awake.  I was moving and able to talk, fully-conscious.  I sat up in bed, after being rudely awakened by a nightmare.  It was very dark in the room, as it was just about 6:58 in the morning, so there was only a tiny bit of light coming in from above the curtains.  Because it was so dark, I couldn't make out many fine details in the room.  I could make out the outline and some faint details of my Universal Monsters poster hanging on the closet directly in front of my bed, near the entryway to my room.  Only a few seconds had passed, and then I saw this figure coming into the room.  The wall blocked my view of the door, but I assumed it had been opened and that the figure coming in was that of my mother.  It was about average height for a female, but it had something on its head, making it look taller.  I assumed it was my mother with a towel on her head.  (When I was little, she would always put her hair up in a towel after taking a shower.  She didn't do this at the time I saw the figure, though, but I didn't make the connection.)  But, because, it was darker, I couldn't really tell.  But, since we were the only two in the house at the time, there was no one else that it could have been.  I thought it was strange that she didn't say anything as she walked in.  I was confused by the fact that she hadn't knocked, so I just waited for her to acknowledge me.  The figure eventually stopped at the edge of my bed and turned to face me.   As it looked at me, and I realized I couldn't make out any real details, despite the fact that it was now in front of my Universal Monsters poster, I was taken aback.  I called out to it.  I said, "Mother?"  At that point, the particles that made up the figure dissipated.  They literally dispersed and became part of the surrounding atmosphere.  I was not disturbed nor was I really scared.  Rather, I was confused.  I hopped out of bed and found my mother in the other room.  I asked her if she had been in my room.  She said ''no.''  It was at that point I explained to her, very rationally, that I had just seen a "ghost."  I wasn't really shaken by the experience until later in the day, when I fully realized the implications. 

Afterwards, I couldn't sleep.  For nearly three weeks, I had to keep all of the lights on.  I eventually got to the point where a couple of nightlights would do the trick, but I have never again allowed myself to sleep in total - or near total - darkness for fear the conditions would be right for me to see it again.  To this day, it still freaks me out. 
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Dr.Teufel Geist on October 01, 2012, 11:22:58 PM
I was 20 years-old at the time.  It was Christmas break.  I had just woken up.  (Bad way to start a story about a "ghost" encounter, I know.)  Anyway, to clarify, I was fully awake.  I was moving and able to talk, fully-conscious.  I sat up in bed, after being rudely awakened by a nightmare.  It was very dark in the room, as it was just about 6:58 in the morning, so there was only a tiny bit of light coming in from above the curtains.  Because it was so dark, I couldn't make out many fine details in the room.  I could make out the outline and some faint details of my Universal Monsters poster hanging on the closet directly in front of my bed, near the entryway to my room.  Only a few seconds had passed, and then I saw this figure coming into the room.  The wall blocked my view of the door, but I assumed it had been opened and that the figure coming in was that of my mother.  It was about average height for a female, but it had something on its head, making it look taller.  I assumed it was my mother with a towel on her head.  (When I was little, she would always put her hair up in a towel after taking a shower.  She didn't do this at the time I saw the figure, though, but I didn't make the connection.)  But, because, it was darker, I couldn't really tell.  But, since we were the only two in the house at the time, there was no one else that it could have been.  I thought it was strange that she didn't say anything as she walked in.  I was confused by the fact that she hadn't knocked, so I just waited for her to acknowledge me.  The figure eventually stopped at the edge of my bed and turned to face me.   As it looked at me, and I realized I couldn't make out any real details, despite the fact that it was now in front of my Universal Monsters poster, I was taken aback.  I called out to it.  I said, "Mother?"  At that point, the particles that made up the figure dissipated.  They literally dispersed and became part of the surrounding atmosphere.  I was not disturbed nor was I really scared.  Rather, I was confused.  I hopped out of bed and found my mother in the other room.  I asked her if she had been in my room.  She said ''no.''  It was at that point I explained to her, very rationally, that I had just seen a "ghost."  I wasn't really shaken by the experience until later in the day, when I fully realized the implications. 

Afterwards, I couldn't sleep.  For nearly three weeks, I had to keep all of the lights on.  I eventually got to the point where a couple of nightlights would do the trick, but I have never again allowed myself to sleep in total - or near total - darkness for fear the conditions would be right for me to see it again.  To this day, it still freaks me out.

very creepy...and I have had similar experiences as well, and my mother has had them too.
to this day, I still sleep with a night light on....I cant sleep in the darkness...I am not afraid of the dark, but that which lies within it.
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Haunted hearse on October 02, 2012, 12:06:28 PM
The other question that should be asked is what kind of a ghost are we talking about?  There's a possibility that "the Ghost" is a glimpse of what has been.  Someone reported a vision of a ghost walking up a staircase in a house where the floors had been divided into separate residential units.  So what may be seen is not a thinking entity, but a glimpse of what has been.  Sort of like a psychic recording. I have personally experienced what I perceived to be "ghost cats".  I have sensed a cat running past me, and it turned out there was no cat.
Title: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: ridulus on December 06, 2012, 11:26:25 AM
In a word?  No.
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: ChrisW on January 19, 2013, 09:55:22 PM
I've posted this story more than once, but it is my "best" experience with realms of the unknown...

One Christmas back in the 60s my sister received a Ouija board as a gift. I was about 8, she would have been 12. Her best friend from down the street came to visit Christmas afternoon to share "What'd ya get?" stories. Eventually my sister got around to showing her friend the Ouija board. As you'd expect, we started playing with it, asking silly questions and giggling over forced answers. As we tried to come up with more questions, her friend suggested asking it, "Is there really a Santa Claus?" My sister and I put our fingers on the planchette and asked the question. After a hesitation, it started moving. The answer it spelled out was,
"Only in the hearts of little children".
I never played with it again.

Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Paladin on January 20, 2013, 09:37:02 AM
I've posted this story more than once, but it is my "best" experience with realms of the unknown...

One Christmas back in the 60s my sister received a Ouija board as a gift. I was about 8, she would have been 12. Her best friend from down the street came to visit Christmas afternoon to share "What'd ya get?" stories. Eventually my sister got around to showing her friend the Ouija board. As you'd expect, we started playing with it, asking silly questions and giggling over forced answers. As we tried to come up with more questions, her friend suggested asking it, "Is there really a Santa Claus?" My sister and I put our fingers on the planchette and asked the question. After a hesitation, it started moving. The answer it spelled out was,
"Only in the hearts of little children".
I never played with it again.


According to many people, Chris, Quija boards are pure evil. They bring nothing but grief to the owner and user. 

I don't believe in "ghosts", per- se, but I do believe that there are specific "energies" that can surround an area or areas where the deceased lived, worked, spent his/her childhood, is resting, etc.
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Unknown Primate on January 20, 2013, 01:42:52 PM
ChrisW - Talk about coincidence!  I was just thinking about an Ouija experience I had 38 years ago.  I was going to resurrect this thread - cue the creepy music.  It's a rather lengthy story, but I'll post it soon.  Also, my Mom related an Ouija incident to me awhile back that happened to some of her friends. 
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Elisabeth on May 25, 2013, 08:19:40 PM
All I can say, so far.... is that if you're visiting a place with a young child. and that child doesn't like it, believe him or her.  Don't try to "reason" or chide the kid for "making up stories".  They're NOT, and probably couldn't describe their feelings if they wanted to.  BELIEVE THEM.

I remember disliking my Gran's Apartment House intensely...to the point that I'd bolt up three flights of stairs like Roger Bannister.  HER Apartment, where my mom and uncle grew up, was wonderful.  The family had moved in in 1930, and the grandparents were still there in 1960.
I always remember that Gran would come to the stairs to see us off, holding my hand as we went past the "bad" place.  I also remember finding out (in my 30s) that a tenant had suicided in an apartment 3 Doors Away from Gran's......In 1917.  Thirteen years before my family moved to the building, and One year before my Mom was Born!

God Bless my precious "Wemma", who was never "practical" or "common sensical" with me.

"E"
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Paladin on May 31, 2013, 08:28:17 AM
When children are in fear of something, no matter what it is or no matter the reason, you have to listen because the fear (for them) is genuine.

I'm absolutely certain that most people have, at one time or another had an "experience" with ghosts, aberrations, shadows, sounds, etc. at one time or another in their life, be it childhood or adulthood.
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Wicked Lester on June 01, 2013, 03:11:02 PM
I believe in both the supernatural and paranormal. Over the years I and my wife have experienced too many things that cannot be explained scientifically or debunked.
The majority of them have happened in my present house (been here almost 13 years) and it seems to be linked to the land. At least that is the best guess because a few other houses in my immediate area have had things happen too.
Here is just one of the many things that have occurred.
One day on a weekend I had helped my wife move some stuff in her room around. She had set an empty prescription bottle on her book shelf/tv stand. The bottle fell behind the shelf on it's own. Neither one of us had touched it or bumped the shelf. So I moved the shelf out to get it but I could not see it. Eventually I had the whole shelf a foot away from the wall and went through all the wires and cable line in case it had got caught in them. Though I doubted because we both heard it hit the floor. The bottle was no where to be found. We figured it was our little visitor playing a prank on us again. A week later my wife was arranging some of here paperbacks (she has probably a couple hundred) and moving some of her knick knacks. She pulled out some books from one shelf to put on another. There was the lost prescription bottle behind her books..... on a different shelf..... across the room.

WL
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Unknown Primate on June 01, 2013, 03:13:42 PM
Always great to read about your experiences, Mike.
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: shewhoshops on June 01, 2013, 05:10:10 PM
 ;our house has seasonal ghosts...things got so baaad, my mom gave me a set of rosary beads for the hallway..so far..so good!! been seeing ghosts here for over 30 years!! most amazing was my dad who walked right past me..in the suit he was buried in!! scariest was experiencing retro-cognition!! awoke found myself in another time but in my bedroom!! --with a casket along the wall..an old guy in it!!..guessing it must've been the former owner's dad..had longish hair and a van-dyke..and no i don't mean the comedy star!!..we live upstairs mom lives downstairs..we go out--she hears footsteps and noise above her!! ...a bit scary--at times!
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Elisabeth on June 01, 2013, 06:29:52 PM
I've never "SEEN" ghosts, but I still have "feelings" about places.  I also sense noises, and occasionally smell things.  I call it "Bad Juju".  My current house used to REEK of tobacco smoke, and whiskey, except that  we didn't drink or smoke. (we found out later that the previous owners had both died of the DTs.)  We had the place Blessed the next day, and it's been "clean" ever since.

The thing I remember most of all, though, happened in England.  It was my first trip, and I went with my friend to what was 'then' my favourite Cathedral.  I knew nothing about the place, other than seeing a picture of a needlepoint  design based on its famous vaulted ceiling..

The row inside the building was so bad that I had to leave:  Screaming, crashing metal and the smell of blood.   What I didn't know is that Henry VIII had ordered the "De Sanctification" of  Canterbury, complete with destruction, pillaging and every sort of sacrilege.

My friend is the one who told me the history...after she found me outside.
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Wicked Lester on June 01, 2013, 08:32:40 PM
This did not happen to me but to my youngest older sister.
 1983
 My Father died on Oct 2  of that year . My sister B. was closest to him. A week after his funeral my sis had talked to a co-worker on how sorry she was on not keeping his obituary from the news paper. A full +week goes by and my sister B. is standing on a Chicago down town street waiting for the bus. Suddenly on a very calm clear day the wind kicks up outta nowhere and a ratty news paper does wind swirls around her feet. One page, in the middle was Dads obituary. Explain that.
Extreme coincidence or something else?

To add to that story we had a family party years ago and B. finally told us the extension of that story.
It was many years after Dad passed away and B. had not thought about that clipping in years.
In 2003 on what would have been Dads B-dayr she found that clipping on the floor of her bedroom. No one but her husband and siblings ever knew that story.
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Unknown Primate on June 01, 2013, 09:19:45 PM
By the way WL - I didn't mean what you've been through is great - I just like hearing about paranormal stuff from someone who's actually experienced it -  :)
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Wicked Lester on June 02, 2013, 08:53:30 AM
  I also sense noises, and occasionally smell things.  I call it "Bad Juju".  My current house used to REEK of tobacco smoke, and whiskey, except that  we didn't drink or smoke. (we found out later that the previous owners had both died of the DTs.)


Phantom smells are some of the earliest things that we experienced here. Mostly in my room. Cotton candy ,vanilla ,bubble gum ,aromatic tobacco (we don't smoke either) spaghetti sauce or Chili. All times of the year ,windows closed. It happens suddenly and lasts anywhere from a few minutes to a couple hours. It used to be frequent ,like at least a couple times a month. I think it's been at least 6 mos since the last time.
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: The Batman on June 02, 2013, 11:45:40 AM
A few summers ago my wife & I took a tour of the Winchester Mystery House. There was a hallway on the top right side of the house that made us feel sick to our stomach after we walked through it. It took us around an hour or two to feel OK again. We walked on the lawn on the left front side of the house (on a warm summer day) and there was one spot on the grass that felt very cold, even though there we no air conditioners around. 'Cannot figure that one out.

 
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Wicked Lester on June 13, 2013, 08:38:27 PM
Let's keep the ball rolling. ANY weird thing you have experienced. I could post at least another 15-20 that stick out. Some huge , some kinda weird. All unexplainable.

WL tynhrt
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Elisabeth on June 16, 2013, 08:45:31 PM
Batman...
You're absolutely right about WINCHESTER HOUSE.  When I visited my brother, back in 1977, we all went to see WH.  It was a beautiful day:  Clear, sunny and blue skied.  There was nothing unpleasant about WH: no sense of evil, sadness or upset.  The only thing was that it felt like a Night Game at Candlestick Park.  The fog was so thick and dank that you could smell it....except that it was a balmy, clear day in late August.

Nothing creepy.  Just FASCINATING...

"E" tynhrt tynhrt tynhrt tynhrt tynhrt tynhrt tynhrt tynhrt tynhrt tynhrt tynhrt tynhrt tynhrt
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Howler on July 30, 2013, 06:17:13 PM
Yes, I believe in them.
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Count_Zirock on July 30, 2013, 07:59:46 PM
So, was there ever a poll associated with this thread? I was curious about the stats...but not curious enough to tally them up myself!  :P
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Flower on July 30, 2013, 08:04:14 PM
I don't recall a poll or voting on this or hanging chards ..  ;)
Title: Re: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Count_Zirock on July 30, 2013, 08:17:28 PM
I don't recall a poll or voting on this or hanging chards ..  ;)
Chads. Hanging Chads. Buncha useless frat brothers that really screwed up two elections in Florida by hanging around the voting booths.

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Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Flower on July 30, 2013, 08:28:42 PM
What's an 'r' or two between friends?

Come to think of it .. perhaps it was the 'd' that should've been a 'p' ..  ;)
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Haunted hearse on July 31, 2013, 02:50:35 PM
What's an 'r' or two between friends?

If it's a pirate, you better hope the guy making the r's is a friend. :P
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Sean on October 25, 2017, 11:29:59 PM
#1 Yes, unequivocally.  #2 Yes.  #3 It wasn't so much a hunt as it was just "showing up".
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Mike Scott on October 25, 2017, 11:45:42 PM
What are you replying to? I went through all the pages and couldn't find a #1, #2, or #3.


Do I believe in ghosts? No. I do not believe in the supernatural, because there is no convincing evidence it exists. There's a million dollars waiting for anyone who has any.
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Sean on October 26, 2017, 10:46:27 AM
What are you replying to? I went through all the pages and couldn't find a #1, #2, or #3.


Do I believe in ghosts? No. I do not believe in the supernatural, because there is no convincing evidence it exists. There's a million dollars waiting for anyone who has any.

I was following the OP's query combo:  Do you believe in ghosts? If you do, have you ever seen one? Have you ever gone ghost hunting?

Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Mike Scott on October 26, 2017, 04:30:06 PM
I was following the OP's query combo:

Oh! It's best to hit the quote button when replying to specific questions.
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Hepcat on October 26, 2017, 06:38:50 PM
Do you believe in ghosts?

No.

 cl:)
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Mike Scott on October 26, 2017, 09:58:00 PM
No.

Can't make up your mind, eh?
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Flower on October 27, 2017, 06:39:56 AM
I think that they got BigBud ...  :o
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Hepcat on October 27, 2017, 08:29:11 AM
Perhaps that haunted house Bigbud bought has been the scene of a few more grisly slayings and he's all tied up with lawyers.

 :-\
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Sean on October 29, 2017, 01:21:02 PM
Here is a post of mine on the Paranormal and Monster Legends thread years ago:

  OK.  I'm in this Bed and Breakfast late at  night and my then girlfriend and I go to bed.  It's a very spartan room---even as Bed and Breakfasts go... we were in an annex to the main house that used to be a carriage house.  The place is old.  Early 18th century.  Anyway, there are 2 beds in the room and to get sleep----I'd like to sleep in separate beds (these old beds have head boards and foot boards and are smallish and I'm close to 6'5"), but my girlfriend (who hasn't told me to this point that she heard things there years before with her aunt) insists on sharing a small bed with a man who can't fit straightened out head to toe------but I digress.  We're laying back to back, but I just can't fall asleep.  I'm laying there in a hot room in the middle of an August night just staring at the closet.  The closet 'door' is a curtain on a rod and it is adjacent to a window with a small fan in it that is blowing IN.  As I stare at the curtain in the closet, it begins to move.  First slowly.  Then rather violently... and oddly, it raises up like a flag in a gale-------only it's blowing INTO the path of the fan blowing against it.  Then all at once, it lays still again.  No sooner do I remark to myself 'well, THAT'S odd'------than the curtain/ door rips open... and out floats a well-defined transluscent figure of a woman in Victorian era clothing with a big hat and a bell skirt.  This 'thing' floats over to the beds and goes right in between us and the unoccupied bed and I am looking right up at it as it rises to the ceiling above the other bed.  It just hovers there at the ceiling and I'm trying to turn on the light on the nightstand.... my girlfriend tells me to quit moving so much (she hasn't turned around and doesn't know what I'm experiencing) and all I can get out is 'don't open your eyes!'  I turn on the light and it's gone...then I turn the light out again and it's not there anymore.  I keep this to myself until we go home... and then my future wife tells me her experience with her aunt.  We agree to go back the next year with video equipment and I get 6-7 hours of video that I still haven't seen.  But we experience others things that 2nd year.  The bedroom we stayed in is the 'North Bedroom in the Annex' and it over looks the property in the back, including a family graveyard that is centuries old.  It's very well maintained.  The 2nd year we hear whispering in the middle of the night and footsteps above us---and we were the only people in the annex.  Just before 1st light, we hear the sound of hundreds of crows... then silence.  The next day, I walk down a long path that leads to the beachfront which is enclosed by a canopy of low laying tree branches---it's like a tunnel.  At one point about half-way down, what sounded like a thousand birds going mad cawing and chirping comes to sudden stop.  I later find out that a SECOND graveyard is in that precise location along the path... and this 'OTHER' graveyard is very UNKEPT.
We go back a THIRD year----but cannot get a room in the annex, because supposedly it wasn't opened for the season yet----so we stay in the main house.  We go into town for the evening and when we return, there is a light on in the North Bedroom of the Annex.  My blood runs cold... but my 'now wife' confirms a couple IS staying there.  Wheeeew.  I read a little in bed and asked my wife about approaching the couple  staying in the 'North Bedroom' ---and asking them if they 'saw' anything last night.  We went down before 7am for breakfast and asked the Inn Keeper if the other couple had come down for breakfast yet-----and she said 'no... and they won't be coming-----they took up and left before morning'.  That's probably as good as confirmation as I could get... I mean... there is no place to go in the dark of the night up there that can't wait until 1st light.  Anyway, I go to get breakfast----which is a continental breakfast you serve yourself in the annex's 1st floor (we slept on the 2nd floor).  And here's where I get REALLY creeped out... there is a bookcase there with maybe 300 books on it.... and of these 300 books, there's ONE book that is jutting out...so naturally I pick it up... I flip through it and there's like ZERO pictures.  However, of all it's pages, there is ONE that has been dog-eared at the top.  I read that page.  BORING stuff (the book is entitled 'Women of Maine').... then I read the OTHER side.... it speaks of an epidemic of madness that afflicted women who immigrated from England when they faced the harsh winters of Maine and had to se all of their silver melted down for bullets to combat the indians and kill food.  Thes women left a life of priviledge in England and found a world of struggle and loss in the New World----and many of them went mad and HUNG THEMSELVES from the rafters of barns and carriage houses.  Now HOW did that book "FIND ME'?  And that precise page?  And WHO is buried in that UNKEPT/ hidden graveyard?  Is there family shame associated with the madness and suicides of the ancestors?  Did my 'Victorian Lady ghost' hang herself centuries ago and try to show me?  Does she want me to search for more of the truth?  I know that I have to go back there and go into that 'forbidden graveyard' and take names of young women down and research the circumstances of their deaths.  It's been years... but I know I have to go.  Thanks for your interest.  Sorry so long-winded.
 
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Mord on October 30, 2017, 12:30:37 PM
 No (even though I've seen the definitive study on the subject, "Ghostbusters").
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: YoungestMonsterKid on October 30, 2017, 12:58:09 PM
no
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Kidagain on December 08, 2019, 10:36:32 AM
While on a cruise in November we stopped in Jamaica and went on an excursion to Rose Hall which is supposed to be haunted. While in the basement which was a dungeon back in the past. I took a photo of the stairs leading down with no flash on and didn't see anything out of the ordinary until I went over the pics later on and saw something strange.It's in front of the steps.Here you go.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49188036681_75c77bca04_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hWzxBX)IMG_6132 (https://flic.kr/p/2hWzxBX) by Jeffrey Allen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150926396(*at*)N03/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49187538763_6a829278d5_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hWwZBa)IMG_6133 (https://flic.kr/p/2hWwZBa) by Jeffrey Allen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150926396(*at*)N03/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49188232647_dec4c83cf7_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hWAxSF)IMG_6161 (https://flic.kr/p/2hWAxSF) by Jeffrey Allen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150926396(*at*)N03/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Hepcat on December 09, 2019, 09:22:43 AM
That kind of thing is usually because there's a hair or smudge on the camera's lens.

 :)
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Kidagain on December 09, 2019, 04:24:42 PM
Nothing on my lens,that's just an easy solution to something out of the ordinary.
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Hepcat on December 10, 2019, 12:24:46 PM
Or an insect between the camera's lens and the object being photographed.

Ghost or Glitch? - NewScientist (https://www.newscientist.com/gallery/ghouls-on-film/)

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

tynhrt
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Kidagain on December 10, 2019, 02:21:07 PM
Didn't claim anything,just said it was strange.Sorry I posted these pics now.
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Hepcat on December 10, 2019, 03:57:22 PM
Sorry. It wasn't my intent to be combative.

 :(

My motivation more than anything was to say something rather than nothing with a view to keeping the board active.

 :-\

Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Haunted hearse on December 19, 2019, 07:01:23 PM
Didn't claim anything,just said it was strange.Sorry I posted these pics now.
We know better, and you would've gotten away with it, if it hadn't been for those darn kids!  :P
Title: Re: Do You Believe in Ghosts?
Post by: Kidagain on December 19, 2019, 07:58:21 PM
Thanks.