what are some of your guys most disliked movies of all time?
Dirty......Dancing.... bleh!!!
Super Vixens
The Hills Have Eyes
Quote from: Flower on August 09, 2011, 11:47:10 PM
The Hills Have Eyes
I hope you're talking about the remake!
Flower- I have not seen Supervixens, but I sooooo agree that The Hills have Eyes was just awful! I waited and waited......but it just got worse :)
Off the top of my head; Van Helsing, Blair Witch, Napoleon Dynamite
Quote from: ilikemonsters on August 09, 2011, 11:57:22 PM
I hope you're talking about the remake!
Nope .. Wes Craven's version .. it made my skin crawl and adversely affected me on a very creepy level.
Charp .. Super Vixens was just not my thing ... and believe it or not, I'm not a prude.
Supervixens (1975) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snwnrl5UzfE#)
I've forgotton about The Last Exorcisim ... I puked my guts out (I always have shopping bags with me) as we left the theater ...
'The Last Exorcism' Trailer HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmrSR5O9QXc#ws)
How's about "Manos, the Hands of Fate?" Or is that one that's so bad it's good? ;)
Quote from: Flower on August 10, 2011, 01:04:23 AM
Nope .. Wes Craven's version .. it made my skin crawl and adversely affected me on a very creepy level.
Charp .. Super Vixens was just not my thing ... and believe it or not, I'm not a prude.
A film affecting you in such a way, adversely or not, wouldn't make it the worst movie of all time?!?! I think by worse he means bad dialogue, bad special effects, bad acting, crappy story, etc. etc.
BTW Super Vixens look awesome...LOL!! You can't go into a Russ Meyer film expecting anything but big busted chicks running around and kicking ass!
I'll agree The Last Exorcism was a horrible movie but again I think you are picking it for different reasons other than the fact that it was a horribly overhyped hunk of garbage!
Quote from: zombiehorror on August 10, 2011, 01:17:40 AM
A film affecting you in such a way, adversely or not, wouldn't make it the worst movie of all time?!?! I think by worse he means bad dialogue, bad special effects, bad acting, crappy story, etc. etc.
Okay but in my opinion, Van Helsing falls into none of these catagories.
Anyway ...
Quote from: what are some of your guys most disliked movies of all time?
The movies that I mentioned are a few of my
disliked movies and they are on my worst movie list ;) u6juu
I try to Block out most of them so Ill just post everytime i happen think of one. Heres one that just surfaced-
HARLEY DAVIDSON AND THE MARLBORO MAN
Quote from: charp13 on August 09, 2011, 11:26:05 PM
Dirty......Dancing.... bleh!!!
Nobody puts Charlotte in a corner!! ;D
Tim Burton's POTA remake, Galaxina, and anything contaminated by Keanu Reeves.
JUNGLE WOMAN, with Aquanetta
"...Awww, It's a Gyp!!!..."
"E"
Quote from: FACTO2 on August 10, 2011, 01:11:59 AM
How's about "Manos, the Hands of Fate?" Or is that one that's so bad it's good? ;)
For our purposes, "Manos" gets my vote. I love so-bad-it's-good flix, & this isn't one of them IMO.
lol...way too many to name!
I've recently watched all the (inspired by or adapted from) H.P. Lovecraft films
I could find the worst of those would be-
"Dark Heritage" (1990), "Cthulhu Mansion" (1992), "The Lurking Fear" (1994),
"Beyond the Wall Of Sleep" (2004) & "The Tomb" (2007)-
"Forever Evil" should probably be on this list, but (I think) this one heads into the so bad it's good area...
& since I have it handy, the 3 WORST Horror Films of 2000s
(http://gallery.unrealspawnboard.com/albums/userpics/10006/WOTW.bmp)
The Invasion (2005), The Sadness (2008) & The Evil Woods (2007)
Frankenstein Island. Jaw-dropingly bad.
FRANKENSTEIN ISLAND (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5u8W5UFUGiM#)
http://www.eccentric-cinema.com/cult_movies/frankenstein_island.htm (http://www.eccentric-cinema.com/cult_movies/frankenstein_island.htm)
I love Bela and Angelo -- but Scared to Death is a major stinkeroo!
Scared to Death (1): Bela Lugosi in Colour (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdhzhZHaBFs#noexternalembed)
While I love "bad" movies, I had to turn off the Johnny Depp film Benny & Joon. It was so blasted precious it was sickening (yes, you're both eccentrics in a dull dull world...get over yourselves) . It was like 100 Dean Koontz protagonists distilled into two characters. >:(
Quote from: Elisabeth on August 10, 2011, 08:47:50 AM
JUNGLE WOMAN, with Aquanetta
"...Awww, It's a Gyp!!!..."
"E"
I liked that one.. But anyway.
I have to disagree with the original Hills Have Eyes, I really liked that one alot. I also enjoyed Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man but it wasn't the greatest, it was good
Quote from: Flower on August 10, 2011, 01:55:38 AM
Okay but in my opinion, Van Helsing falls into none of these catagories.
And that is why you didn't pick it, I did....LOL! Two more picks A Walk in the Clouds and Bridges Over Madison County; I don't mind romance/chick flicks but even my wife was bored during these abominations.
Back to the horror front; Rob Zombie's Halloween and his follow up Halloween II!
Quote from: Scary Terry on August 10, 2011, 02:35:21 PM
Frankenstein Island. Jaw-dropingly bad.
FRANKENSTEIN ISLAND (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5u8W5UFUGiM#)
http://www.eccentric-cinema.com/cult_movies/frankenstein_island.htm (http://www.eccentric-cinema.com/cult_movies/frankenstein_island.htm)
Everybody talks about the legendary badness of the last films of Bela, but Carradine doesn't take a back seat to ANYBODY in the trash for cash genre.
I'll put up some of the modern ones I've seen, when I remember more I'll post but I try so hard to forget....
Red Riding Hood
Every Twilight Movie made
Yellow Brick Road
Quote from: kklloo on August 10, 2011, 08:57:49 PM
I'll put up some of the modern ones I've seen, when I remember more I'll post but I try so hard to forget....
Red Riding Hood
Every Twilight Movie made
Yellow Brick Road
I'm still going to view Red Riding Hood when it comes on Netflix. Such a wasted opportunity if it's as bad as reported.
Quote from: Scatter on August 10, 2011, 08:59:46 PM
I'm still going to view Red Riding Hood when it comes on Netflix. Such a wasted opportunity if it's as bad as reported.
It's a well made movie with an interesting twist in the plot ..
I enjoyed it.
It's tough because there are low budget crappy movies made by hacks and then there are Hollywood feature films which should have been done better. Off the top of my head.
Yeah Manos is one of them. Exit to Eden is unbelieveable bad considering the talent who made and starred in the movie.
This is controversial. I don't think Animal house is a terrible movie as such but I think it's had a huge and negative impact on our culture. I believe the film was intended to be a farce and I see it as such but many young men saw it as a cool lifestyle and took it seriously.. It celebrates stupidity, binge drinking, drug use and objectifation of women. A number of others films were produced following the same formula. I think Animal House was not a healthy thing for our society.
I do find the scene with the horse being shot to be really funny.
Quote from: Flower on August 09, 2011, 11:47:10 PM
Super Vixens
The Hills Have Eyes
Super Vixens is a cinematic masterpiece. ;)
The Blair Witch Project
Sasquatch
Tombs of the Blind Dead
I'll watch anything, and even a lot of stuff that people consider horrible I can tolerate (I love Manos!). But there is one movie, one that is so god awful I just could not make it to the end. I loved "Dream a Little Dream" when I was in Jr. High. It wasn't really great by any means, but it had its moments and I had a real thing for Merideth Salenger. Well, unbeknownst to me, there was a sequel made in the mid 90's. Just recently me and my wife found it while scanning Netflix, and we were ecstatic! We both had fond memories of the first movie, and are huge fans of the Corys. We started watching it. My wife left about 20 minutes in, more disappointed then I'd ever seen her. I stayed to give it a chance, but it literally just got worse and worse each line spoken and minute passed. I tapped out about an hour in. I just couldn't take it anymore. This film made no sense, but not at all in a good way. Not even in a bad way. It was just awful.
Ace Ventura Jr
National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation 2: Cousin Eddie's Island Adventure
Home Alone 4: Taking Back the House
Hercules and the Captive Women
Blair Witch Project (terrorized by twig crafts--Martha Stewart from Hell?)
Zyzzyx Rd (the only movie to gross $30 at the boxoffice)
The Werewolf of Washington
Dr. Jekyl & Sister Hyde
The Brain That Wouldn't Die
Eegah!
Showgirls
Teenage Caveman (the only Big Lots $3 bargain movie where I felt ripped off)
And every movie based on/inspired by a video game.
I love Russ Meyers' movies! Super Vixens rules. Met him briefly at a Chicago Consumer Electronics Show years ago....
The Brain the Wouldn't Die is this subject of the next Scary Monsters cover I'm scheduled to start soon.
I know I'm in the minority on this -- but I love Showgirls. What few have noticed is that it's an homage to Russ Meyer. It has many of the thematic elements of his films -- just with smaller boobs and a lower key directorial style. Otherwise, it's a crazy, out of control, quite self-aware satire. What most are seeing as "bad" is very intentional over-the-top outrageousness -- meant to create a "wtf?" response in the viewer.
the blair witch project (both),paranormal activity (both),zombieland(and thats a shame!), and anything with kevin costner!!! :P
Ishtar
League of extraordinary gentlemen. When it first came out I fell asleep trying to watch it(and I never fall asleep.during a movie) I tried to watch it again the other night, made it through. But it was just horrible! Its sad because the idea was good, but the story was horrible as was the cgi and the acting. Sean connery even blew in it. It drug on forever. Definately a worst movie canidate. Especially considering the budget.
By the way,
ZOMBIELAND RULED! Paranormal activity was really good too. Part 2 wasn't bad either. And I liked the blair witch.and RZ's halloween. This is a cool thread to see how different we all are, yet haunt he same place. (UMA)
Most the movies people are saying are the worst are all movies I really enjoy. :(
Pauspy- I had forgotten about benny & joon!!!! Blarfffff- my daughter was obsessed with that movie in high school, and I kept my mouth shut for waaaaay too many years- awful, awful, movie!
I also thought about another "Oh, Look- someone being eccentric for the sake of being eccentric- movie......"Juno."...GAG!!! Look, Juno's doing something! (cue indie music- repeat) It was awful, yet I know sooo many people that liked it! maybe it just hit a little too close to home, I don't know :(
And "Pretty Woman"!! What is wrong with people?? It is a horrible/worst movie list type of movie.......ok, I'm done.
Wait, I'm NOT done...... I like "Manos"!
Charp .. I never understood the appeal of Pretty Woman or of Julia Roberts. There are many forgettable movies out there that I've forgotten. This is a good thing. ;D
Quote from: frankenstein73 on August 11, 2011, 05:14:17 PM
League of extraordinary gentlemen. When it first came out I fell asleep trying to watch it(and I never fall asleep.during a movie) I tried to watch it again the other night, made it through. But it was just horrible!
You're right on this one--totally forgettable, considering all of the "spectacle," not to mention the potential in the premise. Another one that really blew was the movie based on the Avengers (the TV show).
For me, a movie is bad if it's boring and/or it takes itself to seriously. I'll cut low-budget genre movies (horror, thrillers) a lot of slack because even if they're slow or stupid, I'll at least be interested in how they fit with what was going on around them (what other movie's they're lifting plot/themes from). Or, like Manos, it's at least trying to do something a little different.
My gripe with (the few) big "hollywood" movies i've seen in the past 10 or more years is that as the technical and "craft" areas (cinematography, design, effects,etc.) have gotten so good and so slick
technically, the scripts and direction have made movies "hollow," lacking in any of the characterization, subtext or cleverness that even many b- or "small" genre movies displayed.
Confession: I like "Manos" better than anything w/Kevin Costner or Julia Roberts!
HOSTEL and anything following the words "Rob Zombie's" (and I've checked them to try to see if I was missing something). Some great actors' talents wasted. I can't see how he's supposed to be a fan of classic horror and then turns around and makes the antithesis of what made the classics great.
Rob
Megaforce
Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
neonnoodle-I just burst into hysterics when I saw SPLHCB- huh? Sergeant Pepper's....etc.!!!
I had forgotten about that abomination!! And the sad thing is- that was the first Beatles experience I had!! I was about 15, and my parents never listened to the Beatles, and I never really caught on when I heard one of their songs, so I went to see that movie with my little sister and I walked out STUNNED!
I remember thinking "you must have to be on drugs to understand any of that movie"!!! The ONLY reason I went was because my idol- Steve Martin- was in it!! Now that I'm older, much older, I realize that the Beatles were a force of nature and I love their amazing music masterpieces!
Every once in a while, I hear a Beatles song that I've never heard (there are lots of them), and I thank G_d that it wasn't used in that cough...cough.. "movie".
ADD SPLHCB to my list of Worst...Movie..Ever!!
Can't Stop The Music Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0TY4FUEd2M#ws)
City of Angels. I'm sure there are worse low budget films, but as far as big budget films with major stars, this has to be the worst movie of all time. It's God-awful throughout the entire movie, and just when you think it can't get any worse, the ending has to rank amongst the worst endings ever. I don't know who directed and produced this piece of garbage, but they shouldn't be allowed to make another movie again, EVER! I guess I didn't pull any punches on my feelings about this movie, did I? LOL
Fester!! I kind of want to see Can't Stop the Music, now! My goodness, I wonder what the glitter/sequin budget was on that film? I saw so many things in that trailer that I want to see again!! Was that Olympian Bruce Jenner in that midriff baring top?? Why was everyone ripping their clothes off to reveal smaller clothes? The music was a little dated, but dancing and having fun are NEVER out of style! I was actually entertained by the trailer......wow, I need to get out more. I wish they would show this on tv!! :)
Quote from: monsterphile on August 12, 2011, 02:25:06 PM
HOSTEL and anything following the words "Rob Zombie's" (and I've checked them to try to see if I was missing something). Some great actors' talents wasted. I can't see how he's supposed to be a fan of classic horror and then turns around and makes the antithesis of what made the classics great.
Rob
Well said.
OK, you want bad -- I've got bad. This Apple is rotten to the core.
The Apple (1980) trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BY9cvgrP1c#ws)
Oh my.......The Apple looks like a bad version of Showgirls, or is Showgirls a good version of The Apple? I was riveted at the 1:40 mark...ummmm
QuoteNapoleon Dynamite
Zombiehorror! Say it ain't so! Napoleon is a nerd Anthem! It is on my list to see again before I croak! I love that movie.
OK, time for you all to jump on me......but my pick is Plan 9. Buddy
Quote from: Scary Terry on August 11, 2011, 02:21:52 PM
I love Russ Meyers' movies! Super Vixens rules. Met him briefly at a Chicago Consumer Electronics Show years ago....
Bosomania. Fantastic cinema.
"Can't Stop the Music" and "The Apple" are both awesome bad movies. I have 'em both. A rule of thumb I use is: Generally, disco makes a dorky movie into a deliriously fun movie. I also like "Roller Boogie," that one's pretty good too.
I was going to mention another favorite, one I have not seen in a long time: "Supersonic Man."
The Blair Witch Project
Dracula's Dog
They Saved Hitler's Brain
Mano's The Hands Of Fate
Just to name a few
One of the worst films I've ever seen was a low budget piece of crap called "To Catch a Yeti". As a general rule I'll watch any bigfoot/sasquatch/yeti movie I come across but this was pure garbage. Whoever designed the creature clearly had no idea what a yeti was supposed to be. The thing was like two feet tall and looked like what would happen if someone crossbred an Ewok and a mogwai. The thing even had a rat tail. YETIS DO NOT HAVE RAT TAILS!! They don't have tails at all as far as I know.
This wasn't horror, it was basically a family film. But just because it's a family film doesn't mean it had to suck. Harry and the Hendersons was a family movie starring a bigfoot and it was one of my favorite movies growing up. I still enjoy watching it today. Of course Harry looked like an actual bigfoot. This thing in To Catch a Yeti looked like some sort of idiotic plush toy.
RAT tail?? (confused)
Quote from: neonnoodle on August 14, 2011, 02:40:44 AM
RAT tail?? (confused)
Yes. The thing had a long, hairless tail like a rat if I'm remembering correctly.
Quote from: robodog on August 14, 2011, 02:46:07 PM
Yes. The thing had a long, hairless tail like a rat if I'm remembering correctly.
But the best part was the yeti hunter played by Meatloaf. ::)
In retrospect I probably should have stopped watching once I saw the creature. I knew then the film was going to suck. But morbid curiosity got the better of me. The stupid movie only got worse from there.
Quote from: Fester on August 14, 2011, 03:11:45 PM
But the best part was the yeti hunter played by Meatloaf. ::)
Automatically right THERE, it cannot be a 'worst movie'... ;)
Quote from: neonnoodle on August 14, 2011, 02:40:44 AM
RAT tail?? (confused)
Yeah, really - that went out of style around the same time the "mullet" did! :D
Quote from: Unknown Primate on August 14, 2011, 08:39:06 PM
Yeah, really - that went out of style around the same time the "mullet" did! :D
The mullet is out of style?
Man, I've got to get out of Spokanistan more often!
Bock on topic:
'Santa Claus' devil clip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ofCCLA6S14#)
Mexican Santa Claus (1959) - Lupita's Devil Dream - Creepy Mexican Christmas film clip! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amfu1gvM5U0#)
2 things...
1) I like that Santa was still entertaining the idea that the Devil *toy* was plausible as a child's item even AFTER he learned you had to LIGHT IT....
2) I was going to SWEAR the demon/ firepit extravaganza was home movies of our last trip to the Pocono Mountains-------until I realized THEY were wearing PANTS.
Now I LOVE that Mexican Santa Claus, possibly the king of so-bad-it's-good flix!! I keep thinking, one of these Xmas's this is what I'm giving everyone.
Pretty much 90% of anything done by Brain Damage productions. Grade z movies at their worst. Granted there are a few that I have watched more than once but quite a few that were shut off and on to the next piece of crap inside of 30 minutes.
For big budget movies I have to go with one a lot of you really like Shaun of the Dead. Tried watching it at least 3x and just can't handle more than maybe 20 minutes or so.
I kind of liked Shaun of the Dead. I still think Zombieland is the better Zombie movie though. Can't wait for the sequel!
Magic Land of Mother Goose" a childrens film brought to you by Gordon Herscell Lewis. You might remember his other classics "Blood Feast", "Wizard of Gore", and "2,000 Maniacs".
Charles Band produces a lot of garbage with the exception of Dragonworld. Now that one was pretty good. Worth seeing. The others. like Robot Jox and Doctor Mordrid are just bad, bad.
We're Back! A Dinosaur's Story was another horrid film that comes to mind for Worst Film. What was Spielberg thinking? This supposedly kid friendly film was really kid UN-friendly. I can imagine that someone said to him, "my kids love dinosaurs but Jurassic Park had too much predation for my tastes". So he produced this animated disaster with nightmare scenes in a circus and an evil circus ringmaster, Screw Eyes, who collects nightmares and exhibits them. He also holds kids captive. And what happened to him at the end (with the crows) was not good for kids to see. Really. The circus scenes bothered me much more than any scenes in Jurassic Park with dinosaurs eating dinosaurs and dinosaurs eating people (and I was 38 when I saw both!).
Awe! No! I Love We're Back! I had the book it was based on and saw it in theaters as a kid when it came out! I loved it! Still do... I just came out on DVD and I picked it up to watch again and hold onto to show my kids one day. I was actually more scared of E.T. as a kid then I was of We're Back.
What about "Jan in the Pan?"
Quote from: Haunted hearse on August 15, 2011, 09:57:35 PM
Magic Land of Mother Goose" a childrens film brought to you by Gordon Herscell Lewis. You might remember his other classics "Blood Feast", "Wizard of Gore", and "2,000 Maniacs".
Man, you dissin' "2000 Maniacs"?? That flick rocks!! ;D
Zombieland was a Zombie movie ??? I could'nt tell. Maybe a zombie movie
for those that hate zombie movies!!! 8)
Quote from: Zardoz on August 19, 2011, 12:54:19 PM
Zombieland was a Zombie movie ??? I could'nt tell. Maybe a zombie movie
for those that hate zombie movies!!! 8)
Seems to me that all the zombies walking around might have been a hint. ::)
I hate zombie movies.
Spooks run wild (1941) Urg!! what was Lugosi thinking!
Quote from: frankenstein73 on August 19, 2011, 09:39:15 PM
Spooks run wild (1941) Urg!! what was Lugosi thinking!
Rent. Food.
I have to put Invaders From Mars on here. I had only seen bits and pieces of it up until I picked it up not long ago and watched it. I know it gets a lot of credit sometimes for some reason, but frankly, it was bad even by the cheesy B sci fi movie standards! The aliens were stupid looking and the ending made me want to shoot myself. I had heard a lot about it in the past, but I have to say I was sorely disappointed in it!
Original Invaders From Mars or the remake? I haven't seen the original but I have seen the remake. It was pretty dumb.
The original... I actually didn't even know they did a remake of it. I just look up still from the remake, at least the aliens in it look mildly more interesting that they did in the original. After having seen the original I can't help but wonder why they felt it necessary to make a remake of it. It's one of those films where it was kinda broken from the beginning, so why try and fix it or make it better? Just make a new alien invader film.
The 1953 original is a classic. You'll find yourself in the minority on this one,but there's nothing wrong with that.
I would hope the original is better than the remake. Then again that's usually how it goes. I can't think of a single remake that tops the original film. I'd like to see the original Invaders From Mars. It's gotta be better than the remake. I usually like cheesy 80s movies but the Invaders remake was too dumb even for me.
I had heard the original was a classic. And I usually LOVE classic 50's era sci-fi films. But this one just sucked haha! I also love twist endings but this one's "twist" just made me cringe. It's the ultimate cliche' surprise ending done really poorly. The alines were goofy looking at weren't the least bit threatening both in their mannerisms or their plot. I was like a cheap knock off of Invasion of the Body Snatchers. To me, Day The Earth Stood Still is worthy of being called a classic. The original Kong was a classic (although I was damn impressed by Jackson's remake, one of the few that I thought lived up to the original... didn't surpass it by any means, but at least lived up and payed good tribute to it). The Blob is a classic. Invaders From Mars? I can't bring myself to put it in the classic category. At least for me anyway...
Well, the original was meant to scare kids. It prayed on one of the deepest childhood fears... that your parents would turn into monsters. The scene where the father slaps the son is pretty powerful, especially if you're a kid. I'm fairly sure that the movie also fit into the McCarthyism of the time... the fear of communists and no longer being able to trust the people you thought you could trust. Anyway, in my mind, that's what makes it a classic (like Invasion of the Body Snatchers). But, the remake was lame.
I can understand that, but just because they wanted to make a film that worked as a commentary on society doesn't mean it has to suck, I go back to Day the Earth Stood Still, which I still think is one of the greatest science fiction films ever made, that whole thing was a social commentary and that was a great film. No need for crappy aliens running around in green pajamas and a goofy squid head in a fish bowl and then some bizarre lame attempt at a surprise end. The film was actually pretty good I thought up until the appearance of the actual aliens. The stuff with the parents and the police and the whole who do you trust thing was really well done, but as soon as it got to the climax they blew it and made then whole thing just silly. I think thats what bothers me so much about it, it had the potential to be a really great film, but the whole finale was treated so silly that it looses the impact that it should have had. Like I say, at least for me. I know a lot of people like this film, I had heard about it for a long time from a lot of folks which is why I picked it up and watched it. It just didn't work for me.
It's a little thing called low budget. Not every film that came out back then could be up to the standards of The Day The Earth Stood Still or Forbidden Planet or Them. They did the best they could with what they had to work with. And I think, for what they had to work with, they did pretty well. Compare Invaders from Mars to The Brain Eaters. IFM comes across as Citizen Kane. You just have to accept that the special effects aren't going to be as good as the big budget scyfi of time. In other words, you either like the B-Movies of that time period, or you don't.
As for the ending... The kid wakes up thinking he's just had a nightmare. And then it all starts over again. Sound familiar? It should, it's been the premise for the Final Destination franchise. Only IFM did it first.
And by the way, I love the squid head in the fish bowl. That is an iconic scifi image. At one time I had the Lunar kit of that (I think it was Lunar). Sold it. Wish I had it back. :(
Quote from: Scatter on August 19, 2011, 09:26:23 PM
I hate zombie movies.
What? :-[
I mean, I can understand hating all the incredible craptastic zombie movies made in the last couple of decades, but what about the original
Night of the Living Dead? The original
Dawn of the Dead? The aquatic Nazi zombies of
Shockwaves? Say it ain't so!
I don't think you can make it as black and white as "you either love B sci-fi movies or you don't". I love a lot of B sci-fi movies, this one I just happen to not enjoy. I didn't mean to offend, I thought this was an area to share opinions on movies. I'll agree there were a lot worse sci-fi films of the era, but this one just doesn't sit well with me. I get the whole low budget thing, I work in the film and video industry, I know how that goes. It doesn't mean your designs have to be goofy. As for the ending, I hate all the Final Destination films too haha! I just hate "Oh man! It was all just a dream!" endings. Doesn't matter how good the film is. They use this twist in a lot of movies and it always bothers me.
As for zombie movies... I agree! Theres been a lot of crap ones lately (except for Zombieland... you gotta love Zombieland) but some of the early originals are great! The first time I saw the original Night of the Living Dead I was about 7 and it scared the hell out of me! It still creeps me out to this day! I don't know if any of you have watched AMC's Walking Dead series but I have been pretty impressed so far. I think it's deffinately a cut above a lot of the zombie films that have come out recently.
As an avid Zombie film such as my self I have to say that as the opening credits of Zombieland started
I was glued to my seat and thinking I'm in for a heck of a good ride
but by movies end I felt cheated and if someone was to note the actual screen time of zombie action or zombie
appearences you would find that the love story and twinkie hunting took presidence .
maybe I expected too much from a huge budget and great cast members!
LOVE STORY+TWINKIE HUNT + A DASH OF ZOMBIES + CRAPPY HUMOR = NOT A ZOMBIE MOVIE!!!!
Zombies of Mass Destruction was even better than that or Dance of the Dead or Zombie Strippers for that matter!!! 8)
Anything by M Night Shylaman
THE HAPPENING WHAT WAS THAT???
His movies would have been better as 30min. twilight zone episodes
and I've seen all of his movies except the last airbender
maybe it's good?? 8)
I know a lot of people slammed the last airbender, but I thought it was actually pretty decent... at least better than I expected it to be. That being said, I should add that I know nothing of the original show, so thats probably why I thought it was pretty decent... the rest of his films, however, are pure crap.
creature were on the same page on M Night for sure!!
by the way how did you get your avatar to move thats great!!?? 8)
It's just an animated GIF file. Theres some up around the interwebs you can snag. I just found one I wanted and downloaded it to my desktop then uploaded it to my photobucket account and referenced it from there as my avatar.
That is a sweet avatar, I watched it for about ten minutes the first time i saw it on your post. Zombie Shocked HYPNOTIC Zombie Shocked
Quote from: Moonshadow on August 20, 2011, 04:21:02 AM
What? :-[
I mean, I can understand hating all the incredible craptastic zombie movies made in the last couple of decades, but what about the original Night of the Living Dead? The original Dawn of the Dead? The aquatic Nazi zombies of Shockwaves? Say it ain't so!
I should have clarified my statement..............I think most modern zombie movies suck like an atomic powered Hoover. But the older ones are a different story. And you just named some of my favorites (along with "The Last Man On Earth" and "Omega Man").
But I'm SO BURNED OUT on zombie movies. I've seen such a parade if drivel over the last 10 years that I can't even get excited to see zombies any more.
The new Zombie movies might be bad but look what they have done
they have awaken a whole new generation of followers all of my great nephews love Zombies and they have
had hardly any exposure to the older films the ones that got us going
they have their place.. 8) Now they need to make a new Creature from the Black Lagoon!!!
Amen on the new Creature movie! I'm normally against remakes of classics like it, but I think Creature is one of the few of the classic monster movies that could use a good updating. I do stress the word GOOD however. As for zombie films, while it pains me a little to think this (considering the man invented the damn genre!) but I have to put some of the blame for the recent crappy zombie films on George Romero.The past 4 or 5 films he's done have been nothing but a steam of fairly lame zombie films. I would love to see him go back to doing more projects like Creepshow and just move on from the whole zombie thing. You like zombies George, we get it, but please, give me something different!
When I heard that cloverfield was coming out I thought Great an original new monster
it might breath new life into the genre but what a dissappointment
it could have been much better even the tri - star "Godzilla" YUK!! was better than Cloverfield.
Quote from: Scatter on August 20, 2011, 10:00:57 PM
I should have clarified my statement..............I think most modern zombie movies suck like an atomic powered Hoover. But the older ones are a different story. And you just named some of my favorites (along with "The Last Man On Earth" and "Omega Man").
But I'm SO BURNED OUT on zombie movies. I've seen such a parade if drivel over the last 10 years that I can't even get excited to see zombies any more.
I know, it's like everything else, it gets popular and then run into the ground.
I hope you're not tired of zombies in books though, 'cause the first half of my book has a lot of them! ;)
Quote from: Moonshadow on August 21, 2011, 12:04:21 AM
I know, it's like everything else, it gets popular and then run into the ground.
I hope you're not tired of zombies in books though, 'cause the first half of my book has a lot of them! ;)
No, I'm tired of cliche'-laden zombie movies that can't even get the cliche's right. I'm VERY excited to get a glimpse into the dank and webbed corners of that glorious mind of yours Sis!!
most of the stuff post-1995 and especially anything from the 2000s and 2010s
DEAD/ALIVE, Van Helsing
VanHelsing I get, but you can't hate on Dead/Alive! It's classic Peter Jackson! Plus it was kinda made with the intention to be bad and campy! It's kinda the point...
Quote from: creaturerevenge on August 24, 2011, 03:29:38 PM
VanHelsing I get, but you can't hate on Dead/Alive! It's classic Peter Jackson! Plus it was kinda made with the intention to be bad and campy! It's kinda the point...
Nope! Totally s**ks, and will always s*#k. Worst movie ever. I'd rather watch Jersey Girl a thousand times
before I would watch DEAD ALIVE. Btw, Jersey Girl BLOWS too. >:D
Wow......You all just picked off a big ol scab!!!! I despise Dead/Alive!!! Someone bought it for me as a gift, and insisted that I would love it because it was their favorite movie and that it was meant to be. I read the back of the dvd and watched it with high hopes, but it was sooooo awful! The actors were just ridculous and the effects were stupid! And of course the person that gave it me, called me all the time wanting to talk about it so when I finally watched it I had to scrape up any funny/"good" parts of the movie to talk about. And......the person was offended because I didn't rave on and on about it, but I was respectful of their opinion! This also happened with Fried Green Tomatoes. Why do people set themselves up like this? Talking about a movie like it's The Ten Commandments (the movie, not the tablets) and making you feel bad even though you never said anything bad about the movie, it just stunk! Whew....
I also hate Fried Green Tomatoes
I'll give you that it's no 10 commandments, but I mean you gotta give it SOME credit, it was one of his first films. The acting pool isn't the best for independent films in the early 90's in New Zealand and he did all the make up and effects himself! He baked the prosthetics in his mom's oven! like the film or not, you have to give it credit, it's a lot better than a lot of other people out there can do on a budget that small all by themselves! Also... it's still better than the entire Twilight franchise, so at least it has that going for it...
Oh man! I feel bad now! I guess I never bothered to read anything about Dead/Alive or about young Peter Jackson. I really did not know that he made the prosthetics himself. I will probably never watch it again, but I do admire the independent movie spirit! :)
But I still do not "get" Fried Green.......you know.
Quote from: creaturerevenge on August 24, 2011, 03:29:38 PM
VanHelsing I get, but you can't hate on Dead/Alive! It's classic Peter Jackson! Plus it was kinda made with the intention to be bad and campy! It's kinda the point...
"Classic Peter Jackson" means an instant pass for a lot of people.
Quote from: creaturerevenge on August 24, 2011, 04:18:25 PM
I'll give you that it's no 10 commandments, but I mean you gotta give it SOME credit, it was one of his first films. The acting pool isn't the best for independent films in the early 90's in New Zealand and he did all the make up and effects himself! He baked the prosthetics in his mom's oven! like the film or not, you have to give it credit, it's a lot better than a lot of other people out there can do on a budget that small all by themselves! Also... it's still better than the entire Twilight franchise, so at least it has that going for it...
Yeah but pretty much anything's better than the Twilight franchise. Hell, I've crapped things that were better than the Twilight franchise. That's like saying a punch in the face is better than a kick in the nuts. I can't speak for the quality of Dead Alive because I've never seen it. But it really isn't hard for a movie to be better than Twilight. Such a comparison really isn't raising the bar very high.
dead alive is a great movie! Like evil dead on speed! But its definately not for everyone.
I thought Dead Alive was great in the sense of the gore and Special FX but as a good movie, not really, but thats my opinion
That's what I'm saying, it's not that its a GREAT film but it does deserve some respect on some levels. And I agree, saying it's better than Twilight does set the bar pretty damn low!
Dead Alive over the top Funny!!!
Loved it!!
Better than Jacksons earlier offering Bad Taste which I enjoyed very much also! :D
Oh my goodness, with DEAD/ALIVE! The film is definitely overrated......and never should be compared to EVIL DEAD. Wow, really! There are so many cool and great films in the world of cinema. Plus, there is no cinematic value to DEAD/ALIVE. Yes! I did just write that. >:D
Thats cold man! Give Jackson some credit, without these early campy films he most likely never would have made it on to bigger and better projects like Lord of the Rings and Kong! And I would say it has cinematic value on par with the Evil Dead films, including Army of Darkness...
CreatureRevenge I could'nt have said it better myself these types of movies
are made to be enjoyed not picked apart under a microscope because sure you will find flaws
some purely intentional but thats not what its all about. The campiness of Dead Alive Is on the same level
as Evil Dead and other similar movies thats easy to see!! Some movie are made to be so bad they
are good and get talked about for generations I.E. Plan 9 ,robot monster , killer clowns from outer space,
the Feast Trilogy, the list goes on and on. Lighten up and Enjoy !! ;D
Really, who cares if Peter Jackson did direct DEAD/ALIVE. In my opinion, the movie blows.
Like I wrote/mentioned previously, there so many cheesy, campy horror related films that
are ten times better. 'Nuff said.
Quote from: creaturerevenge on August 25, 2011, 02:16:14 PM
Thats cold man! Give Jackson some credit, without these early campy films he most likely never would have made it on to bigger and better projects like Lord of the Rings and Kong! And I would say it has cinematic value on par with the Evil Dead films, including Army of Darkness...
If Jackson's earlier stuff led to garbage like THIS, then they deserve the hate......
Ice Skating in Central Park Scene - King Kong Movie (2005) - HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_EuMeT2wBo#ws)
Quote from: Scatter on August 25, 2011, 09:18:09 PM
If Jackson's earlier stuff led to garbage like THIS, then they deserve the hate......
Ice Skating in Central Park Scene - King Kong Movie (2005) - HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_EuMeT2wBo#ws)
Another horrible film. Why was KING KONG even remade?!? Wait do not answer that question!
Totally rhetorical. I think I would rather jam forks in my eyes than watch the KING KONG bomb.
I guess I am just being me?
COLD.
Like the film or not I don't think Peter Jackson's King Kong did anything to take away from the original, the original Kong is still just as incredible now as it ever was, that being said I did thoroughly enjoy his remake. It consider it a wholly separate film though. No way is it better than the original, it's just a different film. To me the good thing about remakes (some... not all) is they usually do a good job at introducing a great story to a new generation, if nothing else I think they deserve some credit for that. And if you don't like it, just don't watch it.
Quote from: creaturerevenge on August 25, 2011, 10:13:40 PM
Like the film or not I don't think Peter Jackson's King Kong did anything to take away from the original, the original Kong is still just as incredible now as it ever was, that being said I did thoroughly enjoy his remake. It consider it a wholly separate film though. No way is it better than the original, it's just a different film. To me the good thing about remakes (some... not all) is they usually do a good job at introducing a great story to a new generation, if nothing else I think they deserve some credit for that. And if you don't like it, just don't watch it.
I totally expected that. If you don't like it, don't watch it. Isn't that always same statement for the ages.
What makes me laugh about this, is, I never dissected DEAD/ALIVE or KING KONG
I, just based my opinion
like everyone else. Don't like the films, and will never watched them again.
BUT, to formulate an opinion
of a film or films, I do believe one should watch the film(s) at least twice. Really, not everyone likes the same movies.
I love all of Ed Wood's films, but most people don't. The same with H.G. Lewis, David Friedman, Russ Meyer, Roger Corman,
Jack Hill, etc. I love their films, most people do not.
Anywayyyyyyyy! So boring! They are just movies, and just entertainment. Blah.,blah, blah. >:D
I just think that its only fair that if one person gets to voice their dislike for a film that it's only fair for people who do like it to explain why they do like it. I'm not trying to say anything negative about anyone's opinion. It's just like how I got people defending Invaders from Mars when I posted on here that i didn't like it. You're right, movies are just meant to entertain and everyone likes and dislikes different films for different reasons. I'm in the same boat as you, I LOVE Ed Wood films, and there are a lot of people I know who think I am insane for liking them so much. I'm just making conversation about it, that's all.
For me the worst movies ever made are 99% of the over budgeted CGI laden crap that Hollywood churns out nowadays. I would much rather watch an Ed Wood movie, Godzilla or a classic Universal movie over the garbage that passes for movies today like the Twilight crap, Transformers (I HATE the design of the characters!) or even something highly praised like AVATAR. The non stop CGI never looks real to me, it looks like a glorified cartoon. Give me make up, prosthetics and guys in monster suits anyday!!
I do have to agree with most movie fanatics. All of the Twilight films are the worst. The classics will always work for me. But, I am not saying that recent movies suck. I just prefer the classics.
In the Fright Night remake, I love how angry Eddie is when he tells his friend, "I can't believe you thought I read Twighlight." Speaking of early efforts, John Landis was at a sci-fi convention, where they showed his film "Schlock" He stated, at the time he made it, he was going "This is Baad! This is so Baad!". years leater, he looked at his early effort, and went, "This is bad. This is so bad."
That being said, Schlock still managed to launch not only his career, but Mr. Rick Baker's career awesome with that surprisingly impressive ape costume he made for Mr. Landis. The film is terrible... still has a place in my heart though, it's one of those films that watching it and knowing the story behind it makes up for how bad it is. I have an original release Schlock poster signed by John hanging in my office!
I loved SHLOCK, ya know. Once at a convention I spotted John Landis coming in my direction, and I shouted, "Hey, John Landis!" and he looked over at me and I said "I just want to say that I really, really, REALLY loved 'Schlock.'" And he looked genuinely pleased.
It is a cheap movie but a lot of work went into it, and it is extremely funny and silly. Plus it now has that 70's patina that is for me the very glow of paradise. I love the look of 70's flicks...
Quote from: creaturerevenge on August 26, 2011, 02:08:51 AM
I just think that its only fair that if one person gets to voice their dislike for a film that it's only fair for people who do like it to explain why they do like it. I'm not trying to say anything negative about anyone's opinion. It's just like how I got people defending Invaders from Mars when I posted on here that i didn't like it. You're right, movies are just meant to entertain and everyone likes and dislikes different films for different reasons. I'm in the same boat as you, I LOVE Ed Wood films, and there are a lot of people I know who think I am insane for liking them so much. I'm just making conversation about it, that's all.
"If you don't like it, just don't watch it" isn't conversational. It's dismissive at the very least, and essentially ENDS conversation, doesn't it??
BTW, I'm a fellow lover of Ed Wood............so we have common ground after all!! :D
How much of his stuff have you seen?? Have you ever been able to find his later stuff from the 60s and 70s?? I always wondered if he ever got any better technically.........but somehow I doubt it. ;D
I only went the "If you don't like it route..." since the conversation seemed to be heading in a more argumentative direction, I always love discussing and casually debating movies but I always hate getting into hardcore arguments about movies. I don't think movies exist for the purpose of causing arguments. Like any form of entertainment, they are designed to entertain and to make you think and it's always nice to share thoughts and feelings about them, but when it goes into bickering about films I think it looses the point. I didn't mean for it to come across nasty or anything, if it did I apologize.
As for Ed Wood... no his stuff never really got any better. I've seen just about everything he's done with a few exceptions. His later stuff pretty much became awkward creepy porn. In a way it lost it's charm. All of his films are really bad, that's the point, and the fact that he didn't care and made them anyway simply because HE enjoyed them makes them all the better. As his films went on his production value stayed right on course but the effort put into the films didn't seem to be there. For as bad as Plan 9 and Bride of the Monster were you can see the love and passion he put into them, it really comes through in the final film. Starting around the Orgy of the Dead period (he didn't actually direct it, but wrote it and left directing up to newcomer A.C. Stephen) it kinda lost that spark. And by the time he reached the Young Marrieds and Necromania period he was pretty much just making bizarre porn to pay the bills and keep working. There is a book out called Nightmare of Ecstasy all about the life and works of Ed Wood. It's the book that inspired Tim Burton to do his film about Ed Wood (my personal favorite film of all time!) it's out of print but not impossible to find. If you are a Wood fan I HIGHLY recommend it!
Quote from: creaturerevenge on August 26, 2011, 11:04:22 PM
I only went the "If you don't like it route..." since the conversation seemed to be heading in a more argumentative direction, I always love discussing and casually debating movies but I always hate getting into hardcore arguments about movies. I don't think movies exist for the purpose of causing arguments. Like any form of entertainment, they are designed to entertain and to make you think and it's always nice to share thoughts and feelings about them, but when it goes into bickering about films I think it looses the point. I didn't mean for it to come across nasty or anything, if it did I apologize.
NP my friend. It's VERY hard to gauge intent sometimes through the written word. I like a spirited debate though!!
QuoteAs for Ed Wood... no his stuff never really got any better. I've seen just about everything he's done with a few exceptions. His later stuff pretty much became awkward creepy porn. In a way it lost it's charm. All of his films are really bad, that's the point, and the fact that he didn't care and made them anyway simply because HE enjoyed them makes them all the better. As his films went on his production value stayed right on course but the effort put into the films didn't seem to be there. For as bad as Plan 9 and Bride of the Monster were you can see the love and passion he put into them, it really comes through in the final film. Starting around the Orgy of the Dead period (he didn't actually direct it, but wrote it and left directing up to newcomer A.C. Stephen) it kinda lost that spark. And by the time he reached the Young Marrieds and Necromania period he was pretty much just making bizarre porn to pay the bills and keep working. There is a book out called Nightmare of Ecstasy all about the life and works of Ed Wood. It's the book that inspired Tim Burton to do his film about Ed Wood (my personal favorite film of all time!) it's out of print but not impossible to find. If you are a Wood fan I HIGHLY recommend it!
I'll try to find a copy! Ed Wood fascinates me. I always wondered what he could have done with a decent film budget. Would it just have been more expensive bizarreness?? Likely so. But it would have allowed him to give even freer reign to his weird impulses, and that could ONLY be a good thing!!
Whats interesting about the Ed Wood films is how much the movies (and him really) were victims of circumstance. He always did whatever he had to do to make his movies and tell his stories, which is why he would end up in situations like having a movie about grave robbers from outer space and the walking dead paid for and produced by a church group! Only he could pull something like that off. He had to have his entire crew get baptized in order for the church to agree to fund his movie! On top of that halfway through production the group almost pulled funding because it was so bad! Had the film not been made under those conditions I don't know that it would have been the film we know and love today. Because he had to work so hard to make them, it gives them a certain quality. I wonder if having had the larger budgets like you mentioned would have helped or just make the movies plain out bad instead of them being loveable bad.
Lovably bad...........not a bad way to put it. Like some of Cormans stuff, there remains a certain charm to its awfulness that just isn't duplicated today. I had someone mention that the garbage that Sci-Fi puts out will be remembered by the kids who saw it in the same way that we remember Wood and Corman and Herschell Gordon Lewis, etc etc etc. No way. Those are just cheap films made by guys doing a job cheaply. Say what you want about Wood et al, but those guys had a PASSION for what they were doing, and it imparted something that the cameras captured.
I agree, I'll tune into SyFy (I still miss Sci-Fi Channel as it were... you know back in the days of MST3K and Ms. Cleo psychic commercials!) for a cheap laugh at some crap CG giant alligator movie, but it's gotten to the point where those movies are made by a bunch of guys sitting around trying to make a purposely bad movie. And that's all they are setting out to do. Wood had a love of making movies and telling stories, he just unfortunately never made them or told them well, but he sure as hell tried to! Corman had a who different philosophy: I'm going to make as many movies as a humanly can and maybe SOME of them will turn out good! Sure enough some of them did... but most of the didn't but they are still damn enjoyable! That man made 4 and 5 films a year! And most of them were made at the same time!
Quote from: Scatter on August 27, 2011, 02:36:37 AM
Lovably bad....not a bad way to put it. Like some of Cormans stuff, there remains a certain charm to its awfulness that just isn't duplicated today.
Well 'Attack Of The Crab Monsters' may not be high class sci-fi, but I like that Corman film. Fifties and Sixties sci-fi B movies rock, just my humble opinion of course.
Exorsist 2.
Texas chainsaw massacre (the mathew mconaghy renee zelwigger abomination)
Eraserhead
Hey I liked Eraserhead did'nt understand a second of it maybe thats why ! David Lynch went on to do some really great things . (Twin Peaks, Dune, Blue Velvet,) Eraserhead has to be the strangest movie I have ever seen and I have always looked for movies off the beaten path It was right up my alley But again it was totally sinceless Maybe thats why alot of people did'nt like it. because they could'nt relate to a single micro-second of it.
Whew!! I clutched my heart when I saw - under GENERAL DISCUSSION- Zardoz in RE: worst movies of all time
Oh, it's just you, Zardoz! I thought someone listed one of my favorite Sean Connery movies in this catagory! Carry on....
Whatzupp !!!
While I'm here I might as well go ahead and cast another film or group of films into the worst catagory
It will probally make someone mad I know it makes my father-in-law mad. well here goes.
Any and all John Wayne movies and or Roy Rogers movies >:D
I'm sitting here trying to think of some really terrible movies but most of what I am coming up with go more into the disappointing category... like they could have been good, but alas, they were not:
Tim Burton's Planet of the Apes (I love Burton and I LOVE planet of the apes, but that film... good lord was it awful)
Jurassic Park 3 (Joe Johnston... you let me down my man! although the aviary scene was pretty sweet)
Keanu Reeves Day The Earth Stood Still (the original is my favorite sci-fi film of all time... so a remake being made was on thin ice with me, but I figured hey, maybe it will be good and introduce a new generation to this amazing story with amazing characters... then they cast Keanu Reeves, and all my hopes died)
The Friday the 13th "reboot" from a few years back (a smart, well made reboot in the vein of Texas Chainsaw? Nope! More of the same from Jason... not that that's bad, but it was disappointing, it could have been something new and well told, but it wasn't)
Killjoy 1, 2, & 3.
My Soul to Take.
Yeah, I was not really crazy about that F13 reboot either. Although I did try to get what enjoyment I could out of it! It reminded me of eating a dry orange with very little juice in it, you ever get those?
Quote from: CreepysFan on August 27, 2011, 03:23:24 AM
Well 'Attack Of The Crab Monsters' may not be high class sci-fi, but I like that Corman film. Fifties and Sixties sci-fi B movies rock, just my humble opinion of course.
An opinion you know I share bruddah.
Amen to that! I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a person on these boards that doesn't like his or her share of classic 50's and 60's sci-fi flicks!
I'm going to go with......... Halloween II(2009) I am a Rob Zombie fan, just a fan of his direction of H2.
I haven't seen it yet but I heard that from a lot of people. I'm a big Zombie fan too but something didn't sit right with me on that one from the get go... seemed like he didn't really want to do it and there was a lot of studio pressure on it. I do kinda want to see it out of curiosity but I'm afraid too...
Quote from: marsattacks666 on August 28, 2011, 07:52:40 PM
I'm going to go with......... Halloween II(2009) I am a Rob Zombie fan, just a fan of his direction of H2.
. I didn't proof-read my last post..........NOT a fan of Rob Z's H2
I had to separate these out. It wasn't fair to put Blood Feast on the same list as "Showgirls." Keep in mind, some of these were competently made, but morally repugnant in their messages. Hence their inclusion
Bottom Worst Mainstream Movies (I use the term loosely):
1) American Beauty (Why in movies is every military person a raging homicidal homophobe? Why is materialism not okay, but the prospect of statuatory rape is?)
2) Showgirls (natch)
3) Caligula
4) Birth of a Nation (yes I know how important it was)
5) Pretty Woman ( So corporate rape and ruining thousands of lives with dubious business practices is morally equivalent to having sex for money? because that is the buried message of this stuipid movie.)
6) One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest ( I expect heat on this one. Performances are all great. Jack is great, but I firmly believe that this was the movie that started the execrable trend of having the mentally handicaped in movies be portrayed as misunderstood misfits who just need to get along. Yeah, I know it's supposed to be allegorical, but the allegory is weak. If the sum of the allegory is to "be non-conformist.").
7) The Passage (although Malcolm McDowell as a crazy Nazi is pretty awesome, he must have been pretty coked up)
8. ) Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves. (the greatest adventure story in English Lit, IMO, is given its worst treatment yet.
9) Natural Born Killers (The worst movie ever made by a natural born filmmaker. Only a truly talented person could make a movie this incredibly bad. Oliver Stone has made great movies, and I expect he will again. But an incredibly violent movie with an anti-violence theme explaining why it's bad that we are all so extremely violent? There's holding a mirror up to society, and then there' just plain being half-baked )
10) The Breakfast Club (every stereotype of kid in High School is represented. No scratch that-- every stereotyped kid in a wealthy North Chicago suburb high school. Except for one: where was the Goth kid, dammit? Because it wasn't Ally Sheedy. And why is every adult a sell-out? God I hate this movie. This is the sort of lazy, but impassioned writing that turns up in Summer creative lit seminars... but why does it have to be a movie. In the John Hughes canon, Pretty in Pink is so much more entertaining [probably because of James Spader and his great lines], and, of course Ferris Bueller. But no, BF is the continualy lauded one...
11) The Passion of the Christ (A torture porn movie is given solemnity with excellent production values, and drapes itself in the dubious cloak of religious/historical verisimilitude to make itself bulletproof from attack. Much was made at the time of the anti-semitism. Personally, I don't see it in the film. Mel Gibson is clearly an anti-semite, but I don't see it here. This film exists for one purpose-- to sublimate some weird MG desire to see someone brutally tortured)
Genre (Horror/Fantasy/Sci Fi) Movies Worst:
1) I Spit on Your Grave (both versions)
2) Hostel (watching this Eli Roth film, I felt like the guy Eli Roth beats with the baseball bat in "Inglorious Basterds")
3) Blood Feast
4) Planet of the Apes (remake)
5) The Mother of Tears (God, this one's bad)
6) Cannibal Holocaust (Why do people twist themselves in intellectual knots to find value in this film? So what if it has 'documentary realism'? So does Pasolini's great "The Gospel According to St Matthew", but I don't usually find lovers of Cannibal Holocaust rushing to praise THAT amazing film... but frequently they express admiration for another Pasolini film: the next film on the list--)
7) Salo: 100 days of Sodom (As close to a snuff film as ever I hope to see. If you thought Isabella Roselini was emotionally raped by David Lynch in 'Blue Velvet' [as I do--I mean th actress, not the character she plays], then you're really in for something when you see this ugly, banal movie)
8. ) Twilight--all of them. Vampires don't sparkle.
9) Howling II: Your sister is a werewolf. (And this movie is a dog).
10) Queen of the Damned (This mess had direct to video writen all over it, but got a theatrical release because of the death of Aaliyah. The first film progressive enough to portray an Egyptian queen as black chooses not to go with any of our excellent classically-trained African American actresses, but yet another undertrained pop star, and then shamelessly cashes in on her increased poist-mortem cache' with a theaterical release).
Good horror list, but I have to say I disagree with you on a good 80% of the other films! Especially Caligula and Cuckoo's Nest. Caligula is just a great film. What was cool about Caligula was it was the first film about ancient Rome that wasn't just a typical sword and sandal epic. Nothing against those, they are one of my favorite genres... but Caligula did a great job of depicting what life was like in that corner of history and how mentally and morally screwed up a lot of Roman politicians, especially Caligula himself, really was. Plus it's just a really well made film. I think that film gave birth to a lot of the more realistic, open, and gritty storytelling styles we have in films today. Cuckoo's Nest is just a great film all around... I don't think anything else needs to be said on that one!
Mjaycox: love your lists, & I'm in agreement on most of your mainstream choices, Cuckoo's Nest being an exception, & I've never seen Caligula. They have their moments, but Oliver Stone & Julia Roberts (among others) are terribly overrated. I don't know where to begin w/O. Stone. I literally love or hate his films. As for Passion: suffice it to say I'm not a fan of it or MG. I don't favor censorship in any form, however I wouldn't gripe if Birth of a Nation would quietly vanish from public memory.
Planet of the Apes brings me to Tim Burton. Like O. Stone, I love or intensely dislike his films. His originals (Nightmare Before Xmas, Big Fish) are great, but this man should absolutely STOP w/the remakes.
I love The Blair Witch Project!
I know that the characters need a good slap when they are b****ing, but the movie just screams Halloween imagery. One man's trash...
One of the newer movies: Legion. My wife and I couldn't finish it
- Eeagh!
- Teenage Zombies
- Blackenstein
Quote from: mjaycox on August 30, 2011, 02:06:10 PM
6) One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
:o WHAT ?? No love for Cuckoo's Nest ? I love this movie.
Quote from: neonnoodle on August 12, 2011, 03:56:01 PM
Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
Oh swell. I could have gone my entire life without remembering THAT abomination. Gonna have nightmares sure now, thanks.
Worse movie ever ... Galaxina. Also Bill and Ted's (hack, humff) excellent ? adventure. (sorry...that one got stuck in my throat)
I know, I know, Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band is bad, but I think of it as a strange and fascinating kind of bad. There are some awfully bizarre high-octane WEIRD moments in that flick!
Some people even like some of the song renditions...although George Burns singing "Fixing A Hole" is a little too much even for me!
Quote from: marsattacks666 on August 25, 2011, 10:52:04 PM
I love all of Ed Wood's films, but most people don't. The same with H.G. Lewis, David Friedman, Russ Meyer, Roger Corman,
Jack Hill, etc. I love their films, most people do not.
I wouldn't put HGL in the same category as these others, as he never really seemed to care about movies except as a way to make a quick buck. He was a smart guy, which makes it all the more frustrating. The production quality of his films took a dive after he broke w/ Freidman, and it's hard to look at something like Gore Gore Girls and believe that the man had something like 20 features under his belt by that time.
Howsa 'bout bad superhero films?
THE SPIRIT
Worse than DAREDEVIL or even SUPERMAN RETURNS. I could not even finish THE SPIRIT.
Probably one of the worst movies of all time, is definitely, JAWS III and IV. Awful.
Quote from: marsattacks666 on September 03, 2011, 12:27:13 AM
Probably one of the worst movies of all time, is definitely, JAWS III and IV. Awful.
Man, you ain't kidding ;D
Yeah, the Jaws (& The Howling) sequels were progressively bad! Even Jaws 2: I can't go w/the shark taking out a helicopter.
How much do I enjoy bad movies? Well, about a month ago, I had a hankering for Jaws III aka Jaws 3-D, and actually went out of my way to buy it. I hadn't seen it since it was in theatres!
It has some briefly redeeming characteristics (on the order of "Hey, that's a cool mechanical shark rig they built...") but on the whole, it's stinkeroony! Just the idea that the Brody family is fated to be forever chased by sharks is plain silly.
Shark movies , Snake movies, Aligator movies, STINK BAAAADD!!!!
Quote from: neonnoodle on September 03, 2011, 03:16:58 PM
How much do I enjoy bad movies? Well, about a month ago, I had a hankering for Jaws III aka Jaws 3-D, and actually went out of my way to buy it. I hadn't seen it since it was in theatres!
It has some briefly redeeming characteristics (on the order of "Hey, that's a cool mechanical shark rig they built...") but on the whole, it's stinkeroony! Just the idea that the Brody family is fated to be forever chased by sharks is plain silly.
. I am truely sorry you purchased Jaws III. Okay?!? Was the name of the family in the movie? Brady? As for the plot, I barely remember anything. I do remember Lou G.and Dennis Q. All in all, terrible film.
I always wondered if there was some supernatural element I missed in the first (and only) Jaws, when I watched the sequels where the family is being menaced by some kind of evil Shark-force. It really came out of nowhere and I pondered it for decades. JAWS is by far, one of the greatest movies in history :) It brings so much pleasure to so many, and the actors are incredible! But those sequels are just so bad......Cable Island, Seaworld, Cindy and Sandy, Michael Caine (the love interest), and Lou Gossett Jr.......wow.
Anything with Sarah Jessica Parker including commercials.
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I agree with MonsterKid about "The Spirit." That might be the worst movie I've ever seen. I had to watch it in 10 minute increments just to get through it. It has no structure, no character development, no conflict, no climax, nothing. It's like a series of random scenes stacked on top of each other.
For me...it's a tie
BTK Killer (2005) directed(?) by Ulli Lommel. I don't even store this with my other movies for fear it will stink them up.
Death Proof (2007) directed by Quentin Tarantino. The most pointless and meaningless movie of all time. I will never trust Tarantino again...he robbed me of an hour and a half of my life. Luckily I saw it for free so I never made the mistake of paying for it.
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Quote from: Zardoz on September 19, 2011, 05:35:55 PM
Anything with Sarah Jessica Parker including commercials.
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I know..and they try to convince us how beautiful she is...the same way they did with Barbara Streisand. They both look like feet.
Ben
Quote from: SeptimusPretorius on September 19, 2011, 07:24:44 PM
I know..and they try to convince us how beautiful she is...the same way they did with Barbara Streisand. They both look like feet.
Ben
Dem is some homely womens.
Quote from: SeptimusPretorius on September 19, 2011, 07:21:51 PM
Death Proof (2007) directed by Quentin Tarantino. The most pointless and meaningless movie of all time. I will never trust Tarantino again...he robbed me of an hour and a half of my life. Luckily I saw it for free so I never made the mistake of paying for it.
Yes and no--as it stands, it's incredibly boring. With some judicious editing (or maybe wholesale slash and burn), it could be great.
Quote from: MDG on September 19, 2011, 08:11:17 PM
Yes and no--as it stands, it's incredibly boring. With some judicious editing (or maybe wholesale slash and burn), it could be great.
yeah, because if they cut out the boring parts, you'd have a pretty snazzy car crash, and some chicks kicking Kurt Russell in the face...maybe two minutes of material.....funny but if that was all there was to it and I HAD paid to watch it, I probably wouldn't be as pissed as I would have been to pay to see the whole thing. LOL
Luckily it cost me nothing to find out I could never trust Quentin again...when I think of it, I wish all my life's lessons had been that easy.
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I agree Death Proof is horrible, I was actually just saying on the Horrorhound board the other day that this is one that Tarantino should have let another director take charge of because maybe someone else would have been smart enough to edit out all the boring dialog! Some of the worst most pointless babble he's ever written. Quentin did follow this up with the Inglorious Basterds remake which was a decent flick and a return to form for Tarantino in my opinion.
I don't like most of Tarentino's films. Reservoir Dogs is massively overrated and unoriginal, Kill Bill was the most unbalanced and poorly paced out film I think I've ever seen, Jacky Brown... eh... I will give him credit for Pulp Fiction, thats a pretty damn decent film. I will say though, that I LOVED Inglorious Bastards. I wish more of his films were like that! Grindhouse should have been Robert Rodriguez and Rob Zombie and just give Tarentino one of the spoof trailer in it.
Quote from: zombiehorror on September 19, 2011, 09:25:55 PM
I agree Death Proof is horrible, I was actually just saying on the Horrorhound board the other day that this is one that Tarantino should have let another director take charge of because maybe someone else would have been smart enough to edit out all the boring dialog! Some of the worst most pointless babble he's ever written. Quentin did follow this up with the Inglorious Basterds remake which was a decent flick and a return to form for Tarantino in my opinion.
Inglorious Bastards was definitely a step back in the right direction for QT. As a life-long student of history, there were a few things in the story line that made me cringe, but it was still interesting, and although the action was a bit sparse, what was there was entertaining. I'll never trust him again, but that certainly doesn't mean I think he's incapable of making a great movie.
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I'll agree with that. Filling Hitler's head full of bullets was a little... interesting, but kinda worked in the tale of the film. I always tend to take his films with a grain of salt. Plus Christoph Ganz is incredible in it.
But fellas, you may want to use a pencil for writing down your "Worst Movie Of All Time" because-
Next year we have Tim Burton's "Dark Shadows"
A remake of "Escape From New York" is slated for 2013 release. Their first choice for Snake Plisskin...Gerard Butler...he's not going to do it now, but he was there FIRST CHOICE!!!
and IMDB reports that Rob Zombie is in the writing stages of Halloween III...I swear to God I'm not making it up!!!!
I won't be seeing any of these as my curiosity, though often extremely morbid, tawdry, and seedy, still has standards. I repeat....I'm not making it up...these movies are actually in the works!!!!!
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P.S. My g/f is a fan of the movie Howard The Duck...so don't look at me like I haven't suffered.
I would be VERY surprised if Zombie does Halloween 3, he didn't seem to have much interest in doing 2, it seemed mostly like studio pressure. Plus he's heavy into pre-production on Lords of Salem right now, which looks to have the potential to be amazing. Escape from New York... that film barely worked to begin with, god help us if they decide to remake it, no matter WHO they cast in it!
Quote from: RedKing on August 26, 2011, 04:29:42 AM
For me the worst movies ever made are 99% of the over budgeted CGI laden crap that Hollywood churns out nowadays. I would much rather watch an Ed Wood movie, Godzilla or a classic Universal movie over the garbage that passes for movies today like the Twilight crap, Transformers (I HATE the design of the characters!) or even something highly praised like AVATAR. The non stop CGI never looks real to me, it looks like a glorified cartoon. Give me make up, prosthetics and guys in monster suits anyday!!
Preach RedKIng....Preach the word!!!!
you are now my favorite author!!
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Quote from: frankenstein73 on August 19, 2011, 09:39:15 PM
Spooks run wild (1941) Urg!! what was Lugosi thinking!
By that time...heroin, mostly.
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Quote from: creaturerevenge on September 19, 2011, 09:54:41 PM
I would be VERY surprised if Zombie does Halloween 3, he didn't seem to have much interest in doing 2, it seemed mostly like studio pressure. Plus he's heavy into pre-production on Lords of Salem right now, which looks to have the potential to be amazing. Escape from New York... that film barely worked to begin with, god help us if they decide to remake it, no matter WHO they cast in it!
For very different reasons, I hope they don't remake "Escape From New York", either. I also hope you're right about Rob Zombie retro-abortioning "Halloween III", a movie that sucked in its own right. IMDB still has him listed as writing it...but, hopefully his crayon will break or something before he finishes it.
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I am always very weary about what I see and hear on IMDB for upcoming films. They aren't the most accurate and are very slow at updating their info. They are quick to post up rumors and fact too.
IMDB, much like Wikipedia, can be edited and updated by anyone pretty much so there is quite a bit of misinformation listed on both of them.
I love Deathproof, but I'm aware of the fact that there are probably only two other people on the planet that like it, and I am married to one of them and the other is my best friend.
with any luck, you fellas are right and Rob (nor anyone else, for that matter) will attach himself to Halloween III. Nothing would make me happier than to find out IMDB has it horribly horribly wrong!
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Quote from: BaronLatos35 on August 30, 2011, 11:46:44 PM
I love The Blair Witch Project!
Ooooooooo... Baron.... NO.
It was on the other night. I ran to the kitchen to get a drink and snacks and didn't make it through 1 sour dough pretzel slathered in Salsa Con Queso. I remember seeing that in the theater... I thought it was SOOOO bad, that I was actually angry. I think people leaving the theater that night were like the people in The King's New Clothes-------they saw something different and many of them felt (I believe) that they were SUPPOSED to think it was good. This woman was talking to her date, asking what he thought, saying she really liked it-----------and I just said "admit it... it SUCKED. Nothing happened. You saw NOTHING. NOTHING." The entire film up until the very last moments were whiny, bitchy 'what are we going to do?' crap.... She paused and said: "Your right. It WAS bad." Now it's entirely possible that she was humoring me rather than oppose me as I walk beside her, spitting as I screamed, reeking of fake butter, teeth blackened out by JuJu Bees... Eh, the more I recollect..... the more I think that was what was going on. :o ::) ;)
Quote from: Sean on September 19, 2011, 11:55:27 PM
Ooooooooo... Baron.... NO.
It was on the other night. I ran to the kitchen to get a drink and snacks and didn't make it through 1 sour dough pretzel slathered in Salsa Con Queso. I remember seeing that in the theater... I thought it was SOOOO bad, that I was actually angry. I think people leaving the theater that night were like the people in The King's New Clothes-------they saw something different and many of them felt (I believe) that they were SUPPOSED to think it was good. This woman was talking to her date, asking what he thought, saying she really liked it-----------and I just said "admit it... it SUCKED. Nothing happened. You saw NOTHING. NOTHING." The entire film up until the very last moments were whiny, bitchy 'what are we going to do?' crap.... She paused and said: "Your right. It WAS bad." Now it's entirely possible that she was humoring me rather than oppose me as I walk beside her, spitting as I screamed, reeking of fake butter, teeth blackened out by JuJu Bees... Eh, the more I recollect..... the more I think that was what was going on. :o ::) ;)
I hear you Sean!
I love the setting, the Halloween time period, the idea of a ghost/witch, the unseen.
I can't stand the whining of the 3 characters, I do want to smack them at times. I didn't see it in the theater, but I will still watch it. That being said, it may not make it on my Halloween movie festival this year.
Quote from: -l-AYATOLLAH-l- on September 19, 2011, 10:54:40 PM
IMDB, much like Wikipedia, can be edited and updated by anyone pretty much so there is quite a bit of misinformation listed on both of them.
I love Deathproof, but I'm aware of the fact that there are probably only two other people on the planet that like it, and I am married to one of them and the other is my best friend.
. You are not alone. Although, I don't love Deathproof, I really like the film. It has to with the action and dialogue, and those two elements make Deathproof a good film..........maybe not the best Quentin Taratino film, but pretty darn good.
Quote from: creaturerevenge on September 19, 2011, 09:31:24 PM
I don't like most of Tarentino's films. Reservoir Dogs is massively overrated and unoriginal, Kill Bill was the most unbalanced and poorly paced out film I think I've ever seen, Jacky Brown... eh... I will give him credit for Pulp Fiction, thats a pretty damn decent film. I will say though, that I LOVED Inglorious Bastards. I wish more of his films were like that! Grindhouse should have been Robert Rodriguez and Rob Zombie and just give Tarentino one of the spoof trailer in it.
. Ouch! Reservoir Dogs to me wasn't overrated. That would be Pulp Fiction. Pulp Fiction was and is so grossly overrated. The problem with a Tarantino film, is, he builds the characters, then eventually the movie go'er loses interest. When I watch his films, I want to believe in the character(s), and not be bored to death. About 2/3 of the scenes in his films are spent defining the characters, and 1/3 of the film is unnecessary.
But........ all in all, I still like his films. Call me a weird. Realizing that, I totally get why a movie fan would not. Tarantino is not for everyone.
Quote from: BaronLatos35 on September 20, 2011, 01:48:04 AM
I hear you Sean!
I love the setting, the Halloween time period, the idea of a ghost/witch, the unseen.
I can't stand the whining of the 3 characters, I do want to smack them at times. I didn't see it in the theater, but I will still watch it. That being said, it may not make it on my Halloween movie festival this year.
LOL! ;D You DID say something that REALLy rings true with me, Baron-------'one man's garbage...' That movie just wasn't for me-----------though I DO agree there were essential elements that kept you hoping (only to be let down because NOTHING wound up happening)....
When Reservoir Dogs came out, I found it on the shelf at Blockbuster. After reading the back it seemed to fit my kind of movie with crime and criminals. When my brother and I watched it, we were blown away. It was raw, in your face and unlike the big 80's action movies.
Tarantino is like alot of directors, you like some of their work, and barely watch some. in QT's case, I loved RD and PF, granted they each had faults, especially PF. Jackie Brown felt like a quick cash in on the previous two, but Pam Grier made up for it.
The Kill Bills were like fast food...cool to watch once and then done. I've seen parts of them now and then flipping the channels, but that's about it.
Deathproof was pretty cool, it was entertaining, funny and I loved the women in it. Again, I've only seen it twice.
Inglourious Basterds was pretty good, but then again I haven't seen it since.
In the end, it's whatever you dig
Baron, that was well said. :D
Hills have eyes and
Wrong turn series...
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